Comments by "Guillotine Enthusiast™️" (@timediverx) on "JRE Clips" channel.

  1. Because your magic book tells you so right? 😉
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  2.  @rinwesley3092  Did I screw up your talking point?
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  3.  @JacobCheriathundam  What a load of crap.
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  4. He meant Muslims don't believe Jesus was god or the son of god. They just see him as another prophet.
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  5.  @danedwards1935  Do you know what being wrong and not knowing it feels like? It feels exactly like being right. 😉 Let's clear this up. Theism = Belief ina god or gods. A(non)theism = Lack of belief in a god or gods. So technically a person can be a theist who believes in Yahweh or Allah and still be an atheist in regards to Zeus or Vishnu. Hope that helps.
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  6. Why? You can just go to church or watch apologists for that.
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  7. Hinduism is essentially polytheistic. Trinitarian Christianity as well.
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  8. What's wrong with doubting they existed? It wouldn't bother me one bit if scholars came out tomorrow unified in saying none of them existed. So what's your point?
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  9. How does not believing god claims make us religious?
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  10.  @righteouslydefiant5362  Theism = Belief in a god or gods. A(non)theism = Lack of belief in a god or gods. So... where are these religious set of beliefs and morals based in faith you are talking about? 😉 The apologists are lying to you.
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  11.    That's not what I'm saying at all. The 4 gospel writers, whoever they were, had very different theologies and motivations. The consensus on earliest gospel we have (Mark) is that it was written by a highly educated Greek writer somewhere between 30-50 years after Jesus' death, not an Aramaic speaking layman who was present for the events. The other gospel writers are in the same boat. We have only one writer, in all of the recorded history available to us, who claims to have personally met Jesus. Paul, and his claim is of a vision or a revelation, not of a historical Jesus. What I'm saying is that it is all hearsay with no corroboration outside of the religious texts themselves. If we actually had non-Christian sources from the 1st Century it would be a different story, but we don't have that.
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  12.  @jamesjones6867  Wrong and wrong. Not all scholars believe he existed. There are no extra-biblical sources that confirm the existence of the Yeshua from the gospels, which is odd because there are records for half a dozen other apocalyptic preachers named Yeshua around the 1st Century. He probably existed is the best anyone can really say and even if he did exist the Superman Jesus from the gospels most probably did not.
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  13.  @jamesjones6867  sigh You are just wrong. I'll let you get away with saying "the majority of scholars" but not "all scholars." None of the sources you pointed to ever had any contact with the Jesus of the gospels nor any direct eyewitnesses to his life. The consensus on the main Josephus passage, used by Christians to make your argument, is that it is considered a forgery by later Christians who altered his work. Tacitus simply wrote down what the Christians said about their Jesus, he isn't making a record and saying "this is what happened in history." So that's two down. I would have to go back through the Pliny and Suetonius passages to give details but from what I remember they had similar authenticity problems. I'm sure plenty of Christian Apologists have told you those ancient sources PROVE the Jesus of the gospels existed but they are just wrong. The truth is, only one person in any ancient text makes the claim that they were a first-hand eyewitness to the Jesus of the gospels. That is Paul, and his encounter is a vision with a resurrected Jesus. So there are literally ZERO documents from the ancient world (outside of the religion itself) that corroborate his existence. Sorry, thems the facts.
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  14.  @jamesjones6867  If you re-read your own post you should be able to see that the sources you list simply repeat what Christians believe. None of them (outside the religion) make the claim there is validity to those beliefs.
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  15.  @jamesjones6867  yup, your arguments are just as bad as your grammar. I'm not even going to subject my eyeballs to reading every word in that non-stop wall of text. Maybe learn how to seperate your thoughts into paragraphs instead of making a post that looks like one long run-on sentence. Tacitus is simply relaying the information he was given by Christians. He never makes the claim that "I've investigated this and it is a historical fact." But feel free to keep pretending he does so you can keep stroking your confirmation bias. Hasn't anyone ever told you that quoting the Bible doesn't work like a Jedi Mind trick? 😉 You really know next to nothing but seem convinced you have it all figured out because "the Bible tells me so." You are showing off the Dunning-Krueger effect quite spectacularly.
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  16.  @jbbudish  Again, you want to give credit to Christianity for ending slavery while ignoring the fact that all the good God-fearing Southern slave owners had to do was open their Bibles up to Exodus and Leviticus to find complete justification and instructions from their God for owning other humans as property that they can pass down to their children. So if you want to go down that road you are going to find yourself on the losing side of the argument very quickly.
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  17.  @jbbudish  One of my posts keeps disappearing and I don't know why.
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  18.  @jbbudish  That's exactly my point. You are only giving Christianity and Jesus direct credit for the things in history you think are good. Why not give them credit for the bad as well? That's all I've been saying the whole time.
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  19.  @jbbudish  sigh Apparently your cognitive dissonance is so thick you just can't see what I'm saying. Let me try another way. HUMANS who were born and raised Christians abolished slavery. If Jesus had ever once said "Hey guys... those instructions I gave to Moses about buying your slaves from the heathens around you, how badly you can beat them without being punished and that you can pass them down to your children as property... yeah, well I was wrong about all that. It is now a sin to own other humans as property." Then I would say you have an argument to make. The reason I think you are dead wrong about your assertion is this. If Jesus and Christianity were anti-slavery/abolitionist then why did it take almost 2,000 years for the practice to be ended?
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  20.  @jbbudish  shrug Calling me arrogant doesn't bother me. You can't really demonstrate the claims you are making, you just say them with confidence and seem to think that makes them true. But to me it just sounds like you've found an apologetic that you like and repeating it just makes you more sure of yourself. The reason why I keep using the term cognitive dissonance to describe what I'm taking away from you in this conversation is exactly what I said before. You are giving Yeshua/Christianity credit for "good" things humans raised as Christians have done and ignoring literally everything humans raised as Christians have done that would be considered "bad." So at this point because I have seen no progress on your part I have to stick with my earlier assessment. Cognitive Dissonance is keeping you from realizing the huge gaping hole in your argument.
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  21.  @jbbudish  I guess at this point all I can do is encourage you to re-read your last post and observe your arrogance you are trying to project on to me. I think you may be in the lead to win the Dunning-Krueger award for this thread. Nothing you have presented is convincing to anyone other than yourself because you already believe or at least want to believe it. Keep sweeping everything that doesn't fit your hypothesis under the rug if you want but you are just creating a story for yourself to enjoy, not observing reality. Best of luck, I think we've wasted enough time talking past each other.
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  22.  @jbbudish  I finished a book just yesterday actually. The Last Argument of Kings. Sadly, it didn't make the half-thought out argument you keep using. Maybe you had specific books in mind? Something that proves your argument and debunks mine?
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  23.  @jbbudish  I was being facetious in response to your "read a book" line. Though I will say, if you like fiction and haven't read the First Law Trilogy I would definitely recommend it. Even the audio version is brilliant.
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  24.  @andrewclemens9105  Of course, people will have differing opinions. It is 2019 and there are still plenty of people who think evolution by natural selection is "fake news" after all. I would recommend the Yale Hebrew Bible study taught by Catherine Hayes as a starting point. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi
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  25.  Telios Abraxas  I don't think it is fair to say "none" of it literally happened. But I think we would probably agree more than disagree.
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  26.  Randy Porter  So would you consider yourself an agnostic theist?
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  27.  Telios Abraxas  I don't know where you are getting any of that from but I would recommend the Yale course on the Hebrew Bible taught by Christine Hayes. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi
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  28. Could be? So everyone should live their lives a certain way because you think it could be? Do you spend much time worried that the Hindus and Muslims are right? By your logic we should all be terrified of every religion's afterlife. 😉
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  29. I call bullshit Adam. Some Christian apologists have been lying to you. There is literally no extra-biblical evvidence for the Yeshua in the gospels.
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  30. Why should he cater to the Christians? Why do you guys get so bent when people disagree with you?
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  31. They have the same attitude you would have if someone asked you "Did Zeus really exist?" 😉
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  32.  @matt_milack  Maybe he was off taking a leak and you should try again?
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  33. Do you believe in Vishnu?
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  34. Yeah, that's bullshit. There is literally NO extra-biblical evidence to confirm the existence of the Yeshua in the gospels.
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  35.  @Gutslinger  Have you really never heard that term before? It just means "outside the Bible." It's not something I made up. There are not "many historical evidences for his existence." This is what the Apologists are paid to tell the laymen to keep them confident in their faith and coming back for more. I have already had this same conversation with half a dozen people over the past few days so I'm going to try to keep this short. We have only one author in all of recorded history who makes the claim that he personally met Yeshua. Do you know who that is?
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  36. Eh?
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  37. Oh? Is religious fanaticism bad then?
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  38.  @ilkin1974  Yeah you seem to have some deep-seated misunderstandings here. I'll try to help. Theism = Belief in a god or gods. A(non)theism = Lack of belief in a god or gods. There is nothing religious about atheism. Hope that helps.
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  39.  @erictheguapo  If you had to give your best guess... How much of the Bible should be taken literally and how much should be taken as myth or allegory? You can split it into percentages if you want. For example I would say maybe 10-15% is actually historical and the other 85-90% is made up in the minds of men with differing opinions, political ideologies and even conflicting theologies.
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  40. The reason there is still so much confusion here is because of some very dishonest Apologists out there. I always thought it was pretty simple. Theism = Belief in a god or gods. A(non)theism = Lack of a belief in a god or gods.
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  41. He's lying to you if that is his position.
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  42.  @fifacraftcrafthd7557  Why on earth would I want to do that? I have a backlog of 12 other books I'm working on now. What are his main arguments?
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  43.  @fifacraftcrafthd7557  If there is a method he has found that proves a god exists why have I never heard of him? I'm assuming it's because his argument probably boils down to something like the tired old "Look at the trees. Obviously there is a creator."
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  44. Who are the experts? The pastors and preachers? 😉
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  45.  @xgfhhjvjgcgfxcgjbj  Like Richard Carrier? Or do you only mean Christian Historians who already accept that Jesus exists on faith? 😉
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  46. Did he say that or are you just repeating the apologetics you've heard? 😉
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  47.  @rudolphbarton  Link?
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  48.  @rudolphbarton  Poor Rudy, I didn't mean to upset you by asking you to back up your claim. For future reference, if you make a claim and decline to back it up there is no reason for anyone to believe you. 😉 So, well done, if that's what you are going for.
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  49.  @rudolphbarton  Thanks for proving my point. 😁
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  50.  @rudolphbarton  Not my fault you can't/won't back up your claims. 😏
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