Comments by "Matthew Ingerson" (@matthewingerson) on "Thom Hartmann Program"
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@MrJunglebear1 I agree with you, George. However, I stole that numbering system quote from someone else, so I just left it the way it was written by the person who I stole it from. :)
But, yes, that list could be much longer. It should include food and water, and infrastructure.
When I was a kid, my parents were neglectful on one hand and abusive on the other. I ingested multiple poisons on multiple occasions (rat poison, mothballs, ammonia), and my parents didn't bring me to the doctor. They brought me to the neighbor who was a nurse.
So, not only were my parents negligent in not looking after me and allowing me to ingest poisons, but they were also negligent in denying me adequate medical treatment after the fact. (Depending on what you believe in, it's only by luck or by grace that I'm even alive today.)
I believe house calls are still in practice in some places. Within the past few years, I saw a video on YouTube where they followed a doctor who was making house calls. I believe it was out of France.
I believe that house calls are a beneficial practice. If my repeated poisonings would have been documented by a medical professional, maybe I could have gotten taken away from my sh!tty family.
Even though I now realize that going into foster care would have been a gamble, that doesn't negate the fact that I was born into a losing casino.
When I was a kid, I longed for something different. And, even though now, as an adult, I've come to terms with my childhood situation, I still sometimes wish I could have rolled the dice.
Could foster care have been worse than my natural family? Sure. It's a definite possibility. But my natural family was f*kcing atrocious. And there are millions of kids growing up now, just like I grew up, without a voice and no help on the way. I know they wish they could roll the dice, too.
I don't tell that part of my story to besmirch medical professionals (even though my neighbor-nurse was also negligent by not reporting my parents to the authorities). But, I tell that story to agree with you. It would serve society much better if medical professionals made house calls.
Perhaps we, as a society, could help kids who are stuck in terrible situations. Maybe, if doctors made house calls, more children could be saved.
Perhaps if doctors were making house calls, then maybe my parents would have called a doctor to come and tend to me.
But my parents, like many other parents, were/are morons. So, maybe, because of the abundance of ignorance in society, house calls by medical professionals wouldn't have any positive residual effects on the lives of our most vulnerable youth.
Many working-class Americans are ashamed and paranoid. They don't want people coming into their homes to witness their economic hardships and desperation because they are ashamed. And they are paranoid that other people will see their economic hardships and desperation and use it to shame them even further.
The forces of shame and paranoia are as negative as the forces of abuse and negligence. But those forces of paranoia and shame are purposely imposed on the working-class by the wealthy-class.
The imposed economic hardships serve to induce the subsequent mental conditions, such as paranoia, that come with economic desperation. Paranoid working-class Americans want to keep their desperation private, along with the associated shame that comes with it.
America's infatuation with privacy is as manufactured as the economic hardships. The wealthy-class manufactures pro-privacy propaganda, just like they manufacture economic desperation. And it is wealthy-class propaganda that has created a societal deification of "privacy."
Now, some people might ask, "Why would the wealthy-class want to deify privacy? What purpose does it serve them?" And the answer is simple: The wealthy-class, and people in positions of power, want their corruption to be kept private, just like my parents wanted to keep their corrupt neglect and abuse private.
So, propaganda is developed to trick the working-class into making "privacy" an idol. Abusive working-class parents who are in power over their children, exploitative wealthy-class employers who are in power over their employees, and countless other people who seek positions of power over others, all love the idol of privacy.
All of my wealthy-class employers have loved the privacy. My working-class family idolized privacy. My working-class neighbor-nurse idolized privacy.
Privacy, and the people who worship it, have almost gotten me killed on multiple occasions. The idolized concept of privacy and those who worship it allow abuse to continue. And that same privacy also helps to get abusers off the hook for their abuse.
I don't believe in the idolization of privacy any more than I believe in the idolization of "parent's rights." To me, "parent's rights" are in the same category as "state's rights." The nefarious people who glorify and idolize state's rights and parent's rights are the same kind of people who glorify and idolize privacy.
These nefarious people want to have the right to treat other vulnerable people, including children and the elderly, in any terrible way they want to treat them, and they want to keep their terrible treatment of other people private.
The whole of society needs a reboot, at the very least. And, unfortunately, the wealthy-class right-wingers have control over when and how that will happen.
But, I firmly believe that, due to the generations of indoctrination and propaganda, the working-class is not mentally or psychologically equipped to combat the wealthy-class right-wingers nor the power that the wealthy-class has at their disposal.
So, I have become an advocate for antinatalism: for those of us who truly value consent; for those of us who truly value the souls that are being forced into life without being able to give their consent.
And, I have become an advocate for unlimited abortions: for those who can't keep their legs closed to participate in antinatalism; for those who are forced into fornication and pregnancy.
The working-class majority of people have endured hardship, desperation, shame, and pain ever since the invention of monetary currencies by the lazy parasites who would become the wealthy-class minority.
I think we should all do whatever we can to prevent potential-humans from being forced into living in this right-wing hellscape that is maintained by addicts who make up the wealthy-class minority.
I think we should all do our part to "breed out" the parasitic human-race from existence.
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I'm sorry, George. I've digressed, and then digressed some more. I'll wrap it up.
Even though I love where your head is at, and even though I would do any(non-violent)thing that I could to make the world a more equitable place, I just don't have any hope for life in this world.
I'm putting all my eggs and chickens in the basket of the next life in the next world.
May The Spirit of Peace be upon you and yours, George. :)
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Say neoliberalism all you want. Just don't forget to tell people that neoliberalism, like liberalism, is a right-wing economic ideology. Wealthy-class Repubs and Dems are both trying to conserve the economic system of neoliberal capitalism.
Pelosi, McConnell, McCarthy, Schumer, Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush x2, Clinton x2, and Reagan are/were all neoliberal right-wingers.
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Say neoliberalism all you want. Just don't forget to tell people that neoliberalism, like liberalism, is a right-wing economic ideology. Wealthy-class Repubs and Dems are both trying to conserve the economic system of neoliberal capitalism.
Pelosi, McConnell, McCarthy, Schumer, Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush x2, Clinton x2, and Reagan are/were all neoliberal right-wingers.
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@ArmenianBishop While you're at it, look up the books by former military Major Danny Sjursen. He is a modern-day comparison to Smedly Butler. He was also a professor at West Point, and there are numerous interviews with him that you can search on YouTube.
Also, the books: "The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War" by Steven Kinzer and "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the Cia, and the Rise of America's Secret Government" by David Talbot are worth reading.
America is nothing more than stolen-land turned into monarchistic-corporations run by right-wing, wealth-class, nepotistic gangster-addicts.
As for your voting record, I think it only proves your difficulties choosing between the right-wing Republic-party and the right-wing Democrat-party. Both parties are bought, owned, bribed, and controlled by the right-wing wealthy-class.
In America, because the Overton-window is an Overton-peephole, the citizens have been indoctrinated by wealthy-class propaganda to believe that liberalism and conservatism are very different. But in the better countries with better democracies, where there are actual working-class leftist political parties, liberalism is a right-wing ideology.
In those better countries, Reagen, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Trump, Biden, McConnel, and Pelosi would all be in the same political party or parties to a coalition government. FFS, even the Canadian and UK right-wing political-parties are to the political-left of all the people listed above.
If you voted for the Libertarian right-wing extremists in 2020, that would only further prove your delusion. But, if by chance you voted for the centrist, slightly more working-class Green-party, maybe you're on the road toward recovery.
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@rameneater1437 Your statement is exactly the kind of evidence needed to justify why undeveloped child-brains shouldn't be able to run for the elected-offices which create the policies affecting people's lives.
STOP blaming your working-class mates of other generations. They are under the same control of the wealthy-class as you are.
Couple your ignorant statement with all of the other evidence presented by the Madison-Cawthorn's of the world and a strong case is made as to why people shouldn't be able to hold elected-office until at least 25 years old, and probably shouldn't be until 30-years-old.
As a 19-year-old yourself, your job should be to keep your body as healthy as possible to promote healthy brain development, thus increasing your learning capacity. Thus enriching your abilities to observe, report, reflect, reason, and react, not only in local contexts but international contexts, not only in present contexts but historical contexts, as well.
No substance consumption or abuse.
No owning high-powered or high-capacity firearms.
No operating vehicles over a given size.
And probably a plethora of other restrictions that could be set to preserve human-life and mitigate natural-resources.
This means no holding positions of power or authority over anyone.
No making decisions that affect the lives of the more-vulnerable and least-fortunate.
This means no holding national-offices before 30 years old, after the brain has reached its stage of peak development.
If local municipalities want to entrust their communities to the under-developed child-brains, then that could be decided by the adult-brains in a given municipality.
But, if the larger-constituencies at the state or federal level have to come in and save local municipalities because the adult-brains let the child-brains screw everything up, then those local municipalities shall revert to the standard of adult-brains being responsible for holding positions of elected-office.
I'm not ageist, nor am I ableist, racist, or sexist -- I have zero problem electing people younger or more disabled than I am, nor people of a different race, sex, or gender than I.
But I absolutely DO have a problem being governed by underdeveloped child-brains.
This country has been screwed up since its inception, and it is because of the underdeveloped child-brains of wealthy-class addicts who funded the exploration, raping, pillaging, and genocide on this land.
The wealthy-class addicts who funded these atrocities in the past are the same wealthy-class who control America in the present.
The corrupt wealthy-class that has controlled governments throughout history is the same wealthy-class that controls America in the present.
The working-class people of America and the world are already screwed up enough, and it is because of the child-brains.
The child-brained addicts of the wealthy-class minority have co-opted the child-brained, working-class dupes into voting for two right-wing political parties that are both bought, owned, funded, bribed, and controlled by the wealthy-class.
Whether a person is 19-years old or 100-year-old, anyone in the working-class who claims loyalty to either of those two wealthy-class political parties is a dupe who enables the oppression of themselves, their friends, families, neighbors, and communities.
At your age, you're less likely and able to comprehend these things.
At your age, you're more susceptible to being duped and co-opted into assisting the wealthy-class.
I'm not voting for that.
At your age, the best thing you can do, if you're really interested in the policies that affect people's lives, is to educate yourself on the international and historical contexts of socioeconomic struggle, oppression, and liberation.
It is going to take a LONG time to undo the propagandist-indoctrination of the working-class that has been perpetuated by the wealthy-class.
It is going to take a LONG time to sober up the working-class people who strive to be like the wealthy-class addicts.
It is going to take a LONG time to teach and ingrain the class-consciousness and working-class solidarity that exists in other, better parts of the world.
Your job is to learn about these things.
But for the love of majority-rule and democracy, STOP blaming your fellow working-class mates from the previous generation who have been rendered incapable of noticing their own oppression and unable to identify the wealthy-class causes of that oppression.
STOP blaming your working-class mates of other generations. Your working-class mates are under the same control of the same wealthy-class addicts and addictions as you are.
STOP kicking-down and elbowing side-to-side at the working-class people who are most like you.
START punching up.
There are COUNTLESS working-class champions from previous generations who are already punching up, and have been doing so since before you were a couple of gametes.
Just because you don't know about those champions from previous generations who are already punching up, that doesn't equate to everything being left up to your generation.
You not knowing about those champions from previous generations who are already punching up makes you ignorant
The ignorance that accompanies your child-brain is why you shouldn't be able to hold elected-office.
But I love that you care.
I'm getting to be an old man.
I know what happens to the working-class when they have no class-consciousness or class-solidarity.
It's happening in America right before our eyes, with the most modern case-study beginning in the Roaring 1920s right up until today.
I know about the Red-Scare and Red-Lining. I'm getting to the point where I won't be able to run from future iterations of those things. History doesn't repeat itself (that's physically impossible), but history rhymes, and is cyclical.
If something isn't done to stop the wealthy-class, America is destined for similar fates to The Roman Empire and The Third Reich. But before those wealthy-class debacles were defeated, the working-class suffered, and the most-vulnerable and least-fortunate suffered the most.
I'm not voting for anyone who doesn't understand these things.
I would rather vote for no one and accept my fate than vote for the ignorant or the impressionable who can be co-opted into sealing my fate.
As I said, I love that you care. But so do I care. You're not alone.
I care about you and about other strangers too -- particularly the most-vulnerable and the least-fortunate.
I promise, my intent isn't to discourse but to encourage and edify you.
If you made it this far, I commend you.
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"They" will kill, maim, sabotage, and/or cage as many working-class humans as it takes to maintain their addictions.
You might ask, who "they" are...
"They" are the wealthy-class addicts. They will use their wealth to fabricate pretexts for wars, manufacture false-scarcity, produce propaganda to put on the "news" outlets they own, and numerous other tactics to distract the working-class.
"They" also refers to the working-class class-traitors who are addicts, too, striving to become members of the club of wealthy-class addicts. They will volunteer to fight in the fabricated wars, fear the manufactured scarcity, and fall for the propaganda. They are the working-class dupes co-opted by the wealthy-class. They will murder whomever their wealthy-class masters tell them to.
"They" -- the wealthy-class and the working-class class-traitors-- will never willingly give up their addictions, no matter how many working-class people they have to die.
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@ernststravoblofeld Right? It's like, "Vote center-right blue for the slow road to fascism, or vote right-wing red for the fast road to fascism."
I say, F*kc No to both. I'm not voting for any of the evils.
Nancy's underdeveloped, lesser-of-two-evils, line of thinking is why America is a wealthy-class right-winger's hellscape-paradise.
She can go get... Well, you get the idea.
Edit: Both the Repubocrat and Demlican parties are bought, owned, bribed, and controlled by wealthy-class right-wingers. If a person doesn't comprehend that, it's just another indicator of underdevelopment.
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+Breaking House - I think you confuse the manufactured state of poverty with the minimalism of simple living.
If you think that the Native American populations -- the murdered owners of this country that colonialism set about suppressing and have since been oppressing and imprisoning -- were living in poverty, you are a fool.
If you think that the tribal people of the present world -- the societies of present-day whose lives are driven by necessities that are obtained by self-labor rather than being driven by necessities and luxuries which are obtained through the labor of others -- are living in poverty, you are a fool.
They were living more simple and more environmentally conservative lives. Sure some natives were also tyrannical in their nature, but they were foolish, egotists by comparison, to the more passive and altruistic natives. The egotist natives are the ones who earned the entire group the label of 'savages' as given by the equally savage, equally egotist, foolish colonists.
Hierarchy exists among fools and animals. Humans are certainly comparable to animals, but it's obvious that we are very different. Humans have the ability to choose ego or altruism, animalism or humanism.
Choosing ego will certainly cause one to digress into an animal-like state and the more humans that choose ego over altruism, the more our society will digress into pack behavior and gang mentality.
Egotists who progress too far into an animal-like state cannot maintain a human pack or a human gang and are thus seen as LESS animalistic than the egotists who can maintain the human pack or gang, which is exactly how other egotists implement an animalistic hierarchy amongst themselves. But all the altruists see are a bunch of poor, sad fools.
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@johnpglackin345 ⬅ This is what fools and knaves sound like.
John is either a fool or a knave.
John is either:
A) A working-class fool who really believes the wealthy-class, right-wing, propagandist lies he's spewing, and he's doing the work of the wealthy-class for free because he's been duped...
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B) A working-class knave who gets paid by the wealthy-class to knowingly spread propagandist lies; he's pretending to believe the lies in hopes of turning more working-class fools into dupes who will then spread the propagandist lies for free.
But, whether working-class John is an unpaid fool or a paid knave, he's a class-traitor doing the bidding of the wealthy-class.
Whether he's a fool or a knave, neither is anything to be proud of nor aspire to be.
And while we do need to know who the fools and knaves are in our personal lives, it doesn't matter who John is because he's not in our lives directly. The important thing that matters is to realize and remember that John's right-wing, wealthy-class propaganda is nonsense.
If the majority of good people vote for governments, societies, and communities to be based on mandatory charity through taxation and democracy, then it should be so.
I think the good majority of working-class people are tired of living under the mob-rule of the wealthy-class, right-wing minority, and the duped class-traitors from the working-class who have been co-opted to do the bidding of the wealthy-class right-wingers.
I think the good majority of working-class people are tired of the wealthy-class, right-wing kakistocracy always acting like the sh!tt!est kids on the playground, constantly whining about having to do the right thing.
I think the good majority of working-class people are done waiting for the wealthy-class, right-wing overlords to command and incite the dumbest members of the working-class to sabotage their own working-class communities and murder their own working-class friends and families.
Forced Charity, Democracy, Humility, and The Paradox of Tolerance may soon introduce themselves to the right-wing, wealthy-class knaves and working-class fools. Just like they introduced themselves to the right-wing, wealthy-class knaves and working-class fools in 1945 Germany.
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@dickcastle Mouth-breathers who have been indoctrinated by propaganda aren't going to believe that.
Mouth-breathers have bought into the propaganda which states that Joe Biden & Joe Manchin are leftists when, in reality, they are both moderate-Republican Capitalists.
Mouth-breathers think that actual leftists and right-winger Joe Biden want to do away with the private ownership of all guns, which they don't.
Mouth-breathers don't know that there is a Socialist Rifle Association, nor do they know about the militant-solidarity among the working-class people in modern-leftist societies or the working-class people in early 20th-century America.
Mouth-breathers don't comprehend the dynamics of the two-dimensional political spectrum which describes economic-issues in one dimension and social-issues in the other dimension.
Mouth-breathers don't comprehend the left-wing economic structures of socialism, communism, and collectivism versus the right-wing economic structures of capitalism, feudalism, and servitude -- nor do they have a grasp of the left-wing social structure of democracy versus the right-wing social structure of authoritarianism.
Mouth-breather's lack of understanding in regards to all of these things makes it impossible for them to recognize that behind the fall of every economically left-leaning economic system has been two-fold:
One, the sabotage inflicted by other economically right-wing capitalist countries, systems, and persons throughout the world, most notably the U.S.
And, two, the totalitarian nature of the socially right-wing authoritarian countries, systems, and persons throughout the world, along with the nature of the leaders of those left-leaning economic systems.
Long-story-short, behind the demise of every left-leaning economic system, throughout history, there has been a bunch of wealthy-class capitalists and/or authoritarians pulling the strings and pushing the buttons.
In regards to guns, those very same capitalist-authoritarians who want one of two things;
One, they want most, if not every working-class person to have guns in hopes that the working-class will only use the guns to fight among each other, thus allowing the wealthy-class capitalist-authoritarians to continue their pursuits of power and the satisfaction of their addictions.
Or, two, they don't want any working-class people to have guns, in case the working-class was to solidify and turn their collective working-class anger against the wealthy-class authoritarian-capitalists who are responsible for all of the terrible social and economic structures under which the working-class lives.
Mouth-breather's ignorance of social and economic politics in international and historical contexts makes it impossible for them to understand why actual leftists don't want to get rid of guns, let alone why the working-class wasn't allowed to bring guns to a Mikey P. speech.
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@trusty_bear-v1h I was talked out of driving drunk in the past.
All it took was a one-on-one conversation, initiated by an incredibly kind and compassionate African-immigrant who came from much more inequitable place than I did. He was nearly a stranger to me, but quite possibly saved my life. I can't say I never drove drunk again, but I didn't drive drunk that night, and that conversation was a defining moment on my road to recovery.
Meanwhile, my American 'friends' had taken advantage of my stupidity for years. My friends condoned and encouraged my foolish behavior, getting rides from me regularly, while they would not reciprocate and drive drunk themselves. I've been sober for seven years now, and I don't hang out with those 'friends' any longer. So, my answer is yes.
Some people can be persuaded and changed solely by one-on-one discussions. Some folks might need visual aides or group-shaming, or even more drastic measures.
I am religious, but I still don't believe in caging humans. It is scientifically proven to NOT rehabilitate them. Again, caging humans is not rehabilitative. It is another trauma to be added to the list.
Perhaps, if we start folks on a good foot, with robust infrastructure and equitable opportunities, then perhaps we could have a more healthy society with equitable outcomes.
But, maybe I'm wrong.
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@terencefield3204 You working-class, right-wing dupes, who stand up for wealthy-class right-wingers, are going to have to learn the hard way, just like the duped, working-class, right-wing Nazis, and the duped, working-class, right-wing Confederates.
While the working-class dupes like you hold the line, the wealthy-class right-wingers will be sneaking out the backdoor, leaving you dupes holding the bag.
Hopefully you haven't reproduced. And if you have, hopefully the crotch-fruit of your loose-loins have learned to be unlike you, lest they suffer the indignities brought on to them by the ignorance of their duped, working-class fathers.
You are the weakest link among the lowest common denominator of humans.
You are the worst of humanity.
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