Comments by "Fredinno" (@innosam123) on "Whatifalthist"
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StrategicFooyoo Most companies have already been moving supply chains out of China for South Asia and Latin America due to labour costs now reaching parity with the US, adjusted for productivity.
The Made in China 2025 plan was a plan to mitigate that, but it was basically dead on arrival. They really should have kept something like that more secret.
The Chinese Internal Market is not that big: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets) and is highly protected and skewed towards domestic companies, making keeping factories there to service the Chinese Market pretty iffy.
If I want to put my conspiratorial hat on, it's part of the reason MSM and Soros has no problem pissing on the Chinese now. Everyone has sucked most of the Gold out of the China mine, and now everyone's fine with shutting the mine down.
It's likely actually closer to $400 mil: http://www.worldstopexports.com/chinas-top-10-imports/
And as I said earlier, Made in China 2025 was dead on arrival.
Also, how does China maintain its high-tech manufacturing base without imports of integrated circuits?
China really hurts badly economically if it has to ration out its FOREX, even if it can keep the lights on.
And without exports, no money is coming in, either. China is an export nation, meaning the net is a loss in FOREX. Remember that China doesn't have to collapse entirely to stop being a threat. A Lost Decade or 2 is sufficient, due to demographics.
Note that Japan was able to mitigate the problems with demographics by tapping the global investment and consumer marketplace, and increasing the level of outsourcing to minimize labour use while maximizing corporate profits and GDP. China likely lacks that luxury.
Being on the neutral/good side of most nations that matter has its perks.
Depends on why there is a slowdown in trade. If it's the economy, then sure. If it's the fact people aren't able to trade much anymore for whatever reason (say, a Iran-Saudi War), the result is a mass INFLATION of the cost of Oil, not deflation.
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StrategicFooyoo Except if we compare it to other export-dominated Asian economies (Taiwan and South Korea), they kept growing their exports at the same pace as they did previously long after they passed the point where China has now roughly stagnated. Export values will increase as countries go into higher-end manufacturing. Either China is failing to go into higher-end exports, or China is losing factories at a rate that counteracts higher-end exports. Or both.
Japan was never a massive exporting nation, despite populist rhetoric at the time.
Here is a pretty good graph showing the composition of GDP per nation. Note that China’s GDP and GDP growth is dominated by investment, which is not sustainable, because it relies either on mass savings (stops once the boomers hit retirement), FDI (also slowing down since 2016), or debt.
Exports also make an abnormally large % of GDP (Germany is comparable, but it has free trade and common laws to the rest of the EU).
https://youtu.be/g4DFRPa36T0
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets
Consumption as a % of GDP in China is 39%. Abnormally low, even for developing nations. Actually, abnormally low for all nations. It’s only outcompeted by tax havens and oil monarchies.
They’ve been trying to get that number up to normal levels forever. They’re not going to succeed now.
Chinese GDP is unsustainable and vulnerable.
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StrategicFooyoo
I asked why one country has to specialize in one high value added sector. You haven't answered that.
Well, no, they won't, but construction has to slow down *at some point*. The problem with both financial assets and infrastructure development is that in both cases, you eventually run out of things that provide a positive return. That's more obvious in the stock market with QE, but if you've seen a Chinese ghost city, you'll know it also applies to China's housing market.
You're right, their problem IS overproduction. If they can't find consumers, GDP starts to fall because eventually the factories have to shut down. That leaves them vulnerable to the outside world. China does not have the ability to ensure its own economic growth. They will never have enough consumers in their own system to keep growing and cut themselves off from the rest of the world. It's a gordian knot.
Again, China doesn't need to collapse to lose. They only need to stop growing, and demographics takes care of the rest.
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StrategicFooyoo The scale of construction in China is unprecedented compared to the rest of the world. The issue isn’t that they stop constructing, the issue is that they have to slow down because eventually there’s not enough demand. And sure, I guess if the quality is shitty enough they might have to do the job twice, but that’s basically the Parable of the Broken window, and not an actual net benefit.
Therefore, investment driven growth must end.
Also, this isn’t a video game where you can just dump tech points and money into certain sectors and expect results- especially when corruption is endemic in the system. The Soviet Union had a cult of technology and failed to use it to gain a general technological edge over the US (they did in some sectors, like military, but not *overall*). You have to be able to use it.
Oh sure, China’s not going to run out of things they can do, but they’re going to run out of things that generate returns and growth, especially in a reasonable time frame. Arguably they already have. Debt defaults in SOEs are rising due to failed investment projects and the coronavirus.
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TapOnX https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/25766/what-would-happen-if-the-polar-ice-caps-of-mars-melted
Mars lacks enough water stored to form more than Titan-Style seas, assuming enough CO2 could even be sublimated to make it moderately stable, and that a singular asteroid impact would be sufficient.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_on_Mars
“More than 21 million km3 of ice have been detected at or near the surface of Mars, enough to cover the whole planet to a depth of 35 meters (115 ft).[13] Even more ice is likely to be locked away in the deep subsurface.[14]”
For comparison, the average depth of Earth’s oceans is 3.2 km. Either way, you get a desert that can’t be breathed in properly with barely any water. That is also likely toxic due to perchlorate.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Estimated_extent_of_the_Solar_Systems_habitable_zone.png
This is basically the problem. Mars is outside the ‘normal’ habitable zone most of the time, but is in the ‘extended’ habitable zone, where you can have super-earths, desert planets, or extreme Venus-like cloud planets be habitable (how you get all that atmosphere on Mars being a mystery). But not Earth-like planets. Basically you need either a very low albedo or an extreme amount of GHGs.
Maybe you could merge Venus and Mars into one entity, but that’s still only 93% of Earth’s mass. Maybe we can move Jupiter a bit further back to get more mass.
The V3 cannon existed in WW2. It couldn’t be aimed at new targets, so it was pretty bad as a weapon overall.
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Ivan the Great 2.0 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_gun
“Acceleration:
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Aka: To say it’d need to be big is an understatement . Doesn’t matter either way, you still need rockets to circularize an orbit, and liquid fuel rockets had yet to exist. Even the Apollo astronauts used computers most of the time to help with or pilot spacecraft and rockets as well. So good freaking luck . Same thing with building rockets on the Moon to get back.
Doesn’t matter, the British still got a serious bloody nose from the Boers- who actually won on the long term anyways since they ended up taking over South Africa. It was still going on at the turn of the century.
Point is that the European powers were, frankly, busy, even at the turn of the century. You have to at least butterfly away WW1, and keep Germany (and possibly Italy and France) focused on overseas colonies. And even then, there was still the Middle East and East Asia left to partition up. The Americas if the USA or Britain can’t be bothered to stop an invasion there.
AltHistHub made a video on the habitable Moon though.
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@johnwilson6324 https://nationalinterest.org/feature/china-claiming-okinawa-japan-claiming-hawaii-15996
https://www.dw.com/en/japan-angered-by-chinas-claim-to-all-of-okinawa/a-16803117
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arunachal_Pradesh
Both have about 1.4 million.
You could literally have done a Google Search.
When was the last time the US used a military base as a platform to annex land?
I’ll tell you why you should care. The first move China would make against India in a war is to close off their water supply. Millions begin to starve, beginning a mass exodus to the West. The first move China would make against Japan or Taiwan is to attack their shipping. If they can’t hold off the attacks, millions starve, and those who can start moving to the West.
Then what happens when they arrive? You send them back to starve in a war zone? Do you send them into ghettos until the war ends, and they have to move back under a hostile foreign power, or to a home that’s rubble and cobblestone?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2019/08/14/statistics-show-iq-disparities-between-races-heres-what-that-really-means/
The idea that races solely determine economic success is ridiculous. Especially considering the relative economic success of Hispanic Americans over their counterparts still in Latin America.
I guess we need to send back all the Blacks too? Asians? Indians? Maybe the Jews and Italians while you’re at it? You DO realize that’s ethnic cleansing, right?
And when those happened, *millions died*. I wish that the Germans could have been let to stay in Silesia and the Greeks could have been let to stay in Constantinople, areas they had been living in for over a millennia. Especially the latter. ‘Istanbul’ my ass.
They by no means were inevitable. The Germans were let to stay in Alsace after being ceded to France. If the Allies made it to Berlin, they would have saved the Silesian Germans. If a ethnonationalism never took hold in Turkey, the Armenians and Greeks would still be there.
EVERY Chinese leader since Mao has publicly stated they want to annex Taiwan, if force if necessary. You don’t say that if you don’t take your territorial claims seriously.
Russia has invaded Crimea and is in the process of ousting the current dictator of Belarus so he can get a more compliant person willing to ‘reunite’ it with Russia (look up Union State).
The GINI coefficient of CA, a measure of inequality, is 0.49. Literally US average. What?
Argentina is basically white and has an IQ of 93, and it is... well... Argentina is the only nation to have ever gone backwards from developed to developing status. Not even Greece did that.
Africa never had much infrastructure. Note that infrastructure is more than just roads and bridges, but schools and hospitals as well. Plus, Africa’s geography is terrible, and requires more infrastructure to get anything done (it’s mostly plateaus that go all the way to the coast and no navigable rivers, with a few exceptions (West Africa comes to mind).
Look, I consider myself a right-winger. I’m not for free borders. But what do you think would have happened if America let the Soviets do what they pleased during the last Cold War?
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@johnwilson6324 Fought by the US. Should the US, in your view, have spent so much effort to stop the spread of Communism?
I think Reagan said it best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUQm7UqF-YA
And anyways, sorry for the long wait, I was busy. I'll respond to your previous comment properly now:
"China doesn't want to invade Okinawa. That's fake news. One 2 star General said "Okinawa shouldn't necessarily be Japanese or Chinese"."
It wasn't just the 2 star general. State-run media and Chinese historians (also controlled by the government) ran with it afterwards. The CCP didn't do anything to stop it. And 'questioning' the sovereignty is... being controlled by China. Even if just as a vassal state, which is what is implied in context.
https://www.dw.com/en/japan-angered-by-chinas-claim-to-all-of-okinawa/a-16803117
Imagine if tomorrow, PBS said that Newfoundland shouldn't belong to Canada? That's a land claim, all right.
There's more claims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR7WgKnBTIE
That link details the links between genetics and IQ passed down over *family*, which is different than 'IQ differential between races is caused by genetics'.
Argentina IS white. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Latin_America#Genetic_studies
"A 2009 autosomal DNA study found that of the total Argentine population, 78.5 percent of the national genepool was European, 17.3 percent Native American, and 4.2 percent African.[62]"
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Percentage_of_major_Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_Europe.png
Greeks are comparably white. If they're 'white', so are the Argentines.
No, if it's a white genocide, it's also a genocide of those minorities.
Also, not sure if you know, but people have been mixing races for as long as trade and war has existed. It's not new. We can see the traces in the gene pool of different peoples.
And history has shown you can have stable societies with multiple distinct ethnic and genetic identities (Switzerland, China, Iran) if you integrate them properly into your greater national identity and don't treat them like shit. The US, despite all the shit over police racism and BLM protests, honestly has its disparate peoples get along pretty well overall in the grand scheme of things.
"Africa has WAY better infrastructure than China."
[Citation needed]
I can't even read that imgur link properly.
See, here's the problem. Immigration is not an 'invasion'.
There is a reason waterboarding is considered torture and drinking water from a water bottle is not. What matters is the people or society in control of the situation, and the voluntarism of the people immigrating.
And invasion is forceful. Immigration isn't.
And the thing is, not even Trumpists are as anti-immigration/ethno-nationalist as you are (who generally want less immigration and higher 'quality' immigration). White Nationalists are a tiny minority in American society. You don't get to dictate policy for the rest of the country.
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