Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "PragerU"
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@mauriciolira4359
Well you don't know anything about politic, you prove it with your speech about the far right.
Nazi party was far right.
Nazis were seen by everybody, including themselves as far right
Nazism is identified by political sciences as far right, until today.
First thing that nazis made : destruction of all the heritage from the french revolution, democracy, and all that was elated to the left by nazis and other far rights.
Then when an ignorant coming internet for claiming that far right and Nazism have no relation, this is just a big joke.
Peoples with a brain and the knowledge that goes with it know that nazism get support from big capitalists cartels from germany and america. They know that the big Germans capitalists with companies owning their name, were friends with nazi regime. That the nazi regime removed all rights for the workers at workers and allowed low wage for most of the workers, and even free workers in working camps ( it is slavery). And then it is far right economic politic.
Big capitalist cartels were never nationalized by nazis.
In fact sicne its creation nazi party was about protection of economic private property, and was defending shop owners, craftsmen , merchants, etc....
Then i don't care about your ignorant stances about nazi regime and political analysis.
Nazism is a nationalism, , and all nationalist movements are on the far right side.
Left versus right is defined by ideological antagonism, not about the economy, how to manage the economy is not the main drive of the far right movements, it is all about social order.
Fascist party in Italy had economic liberalism and state controlled politic at different time. But narrow minded peoples can't understand that , because they have a narrow view about economy, and don't understand the relation between capitalism, unregulated market, and power.
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Endmin1
calling Islamist right wing, is like calling nazis right wing, this is a fact.
But irrational people seeing only identity oppositions can't understand the nature of ideology.
well at a time the catholic church, when it was very conservative, was "convert or die" too.
This is pure right wing policy.
Islamism is religious fundamentalism, this is pure right wing, all about hierarchy, heteronomy, inequality , rigidity of the society, etc....
What define left wing and right wing, is not identity, or origin, but principles, values, logic of ideas, psychological drive and cognitive process, etc....
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arthur lecomte
conservatives defend rigid society, they are agaisnt individual freedoms, with sexism, racism, economic discrimination by money, religion influence on society. Conservatism is an authoritarian ideology, defending tradition, religious dogmas is authoritarian.
Defending the freedom of women , racial minorities from stereotyped social categories,is defending freedom. Defending rights and protection of workers agaisnt the authority and power of the capitalists, is defending freedom. Defeinding freedom from authoritarains religiosity is defending freedom.
The left defend the real freedoms.
Gathering millions is not freedom as sign of personal succes , it is a question of social power.
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we can find proofs in historic on precises and adequate facts and political fact where was fascism on the left and right.
some historical points :
war of Spain : a pure ideological war the Spanish left ( republicans, anarchists, socialists, etc... ) against the Spanish far right ( franco, the militaries and reactionaries ). Fascists and nazis sided with ...far right against the left.
And nobody at this time was not surprise, this is why Franco and is other Europeans relatives , from the far right, were labeled fascists at this time.
Well far right 1 - left wing -1
the position in the political assembly :
fascists and nazis sat their ass on the far right side of their respective assembly.
This is the second proof that they were self identified as far right.
far right 2 - left wing -2
target of assassination : if you look who was targeted for assassination you can see clearly on which side they are and who are their greatest enemies.
The first target of fascists and nazis were left wing leaders : socialists, or social democrats, union leaders, left wing intellectuals etc...
Then the first enemy of the fascists is the left, like for all far right movements.
If you look the history of the fascism in Italy at its beginning, it is all about violent conflict with the Left, but propaganda doesn't care about facts.
far right 3 - left wing -3
proof by the political alliances in the assemblies : as parties on the far right side they made alliance with the right wing, the conservatives, the great bourgeoisie, etc... this is not what do Left Wing parties, but only right wing parties.
far right 4 - left wing - 4
on the ideological side :
The left versus right antagonism is an ideological antagonism then an antagonism of values, principles, etc... The bases were given at the time of the French revolution, and developed/extended with socialism + (Marx + Engels) on economic side along the 19th century.
Fascism main values are Order, Hierarchy, Identity, like all far right ideologies, while left wing values are Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, the exact antagonists values.
Far right 5 - Left Wing -5
From the French Revolution the antagonism of power is :
right wing = rule of one or a minority over the majority.
left wing = shared power for all (democratic power).
Again fascism fits with the right wing side, against the left side.
far right 6 - left wing -6
From this point we can see on economic power where fits fascism, nazism, etc...
Real socialist ideologies, with Marx, Engels, etc... are based on the left wing power : a collective power of all the members of the enterprise, or democratic economic power. Then Left wing parties defend collective organization of workers for defending their rights against the power of the capitalist, and it is called unions.
Capitalism was built on the power of some capitalist over the great number of workers, and is defended by right wing parties. The more they are on the right side, the more parties are against union, or any form of sharing power with workers.
Under fascism and nazis workers had no right, like under the savage capitalism of the 19th century that was the focus of the fight of socialism , unions were forbidden. Fascism begin with a liberal economy with a limited state, hand in hand with great industrial, nazi had worked hand in hand with great industry , German and American too. Their economic politic is typically right wing politic on the economic side too. The exploitation of peoples in the camps , like slaves is a far right politics while left wing are against all form of slavery .
Far right 7 - left wing - 7
argument by the state , fascism is left wing because of the state?:
the state is an institution created by authoritarian, hierarchised society, defended by far right peoples (reactionaries)
On the other side the more left wing ideologies ( socialist/communist anarchism, Marx, and several socialist thinker ) are for the abolition of the state.
This is not the state that define left or right but the form of the state :
regalian state with strong police and army, with authoritarian policies and war politics , focus on the order of the society ( including capitalist order ) = right wing state.
soft state based on education, social protection, defense of workers, etc... focus on the well being of the members of the society = left wing state.
Fascism fits , for sure, in the first category, it is a right wing state, the type of state that Marx, Bakunin , etc.... wanted destroyed.
Far right 8 - Left wing -8
Nobody in the 30's with rational mind would put fascist and nazis on the left side, but peoples in the 21th years have lost accurate political culture do this absurd amalgams. This video just plays with false amalgams of concepts. Confusion of one thing with its opposite, it is madness by definition, or manipulation if its voluntary.
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+Say no to democide
yes there are 2 ideological axes .
In addition to left right, the other one oppose egoist tendencies (libertarians and liberals ) versus focus on social bind.
The first limit or destroy social bind between peoples (each for self, and all agaisnt all), and then reduce the state.
For the second in ancient societies there was no state ( like indians tribes), in the modern version the social bind is managed by a state. Well ,quakers, amishs live under this type of societyand have no state.
The state can bring one or two of the subtypes of social bind :
vertical bind = authoritarism , army, police, national identity, enforced official religion , etc...
horizontal bind = solidarity, social protection, public education, culture of unity above differences, etc...
indivdiualism rejects vertical social bind.
particularism rejects the horizontal social bind.
This is here the difference between left and right :
Left favors horizontal social bind. State is the more easy way in modern society for applying institutionalised social link.
Right favors vertical social bind.
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