Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "PragerU"
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@pedromeneses5661
Bad answer, health care and social welfare are not different thing, they are part of the same logic, the logic of treating all humans equally as humans, and not as member of a specific category, or just as bank account. This is linked to the notion of horizontal social link.
Lack of social welfare is bad for the society , since you think the society not as an abstract concept, but something made of human being.
Slavery societies did not had welfare.
Nazi did not gave welfare to jews, disabled, etc....
Third world countries with high criminality do not have welfare.
The countries with more democracy, respect of individual freedom, less criminality, etc..., are the country with social welfare.
Keeping population in the misery is a sign of great stupidity, not social welfare.
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@rickyoldtree
Oh you are so ignorant and delusional.
Because what i say has more deepness than your average narrow minded conservative (pleonasm inside) can understand.
Speaking about tyranny shows how you are wrong and stupid, while i just speak about a world view were peoples are really more free, and do not live under the tyranny of the plutocracy supporting economic liberalism .
You are so stupid that you don't try to understand you react like a Pavlovian dog to the word communist or anything that is related to, then it means that you make zero thinking.
Like all stupid conservatives you react only with stereotype.
You are not enough smart for understanding that stalin or mao claiming being communist was just propaganda. And then like the king of the idiots you trust the propaganda of a dictator you find loathing.
POlitic is more complex than what you believe (because you don't really think).
This is why you are just another conservative joker who do not have serious opinion about politic.
The proof that you are a stupid ignorant is that you don't want to see that the more democratic country are country where left wing parties have an heavy weight on the society, this country are not democratic because they are capitalists but because they have applied the ideas of the left wing movements, like the democratic vote and abolition of slavery from the french revolution allowing everybody to vote without limit of race, sex or wealth, or ideas from the socialist movement about health care, social social welfare, right and freedoms for the workers, equality between men and women, etc....
All of this things are not from capitalism, and was fought by capitalists. Nazism was supported by big capitalist corporations who were rejecting all social policies from the left wing parties of socialist origins including social democrats.
If you are to stupid for not seeing that collective healthcare and social welfare are part of a common world view, this is your problem and sign of your ignorance, not the proof that i am what you say.
In fact you are too ignorant for commenting what i say.
Your long message is not a critic against my messages, but the exposition of your ignorance, your limitations, your stupidity.
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@nandorblue
the best proof :
Stalin has persecuted and executed peoples defending socialism, Marx, anarchism, etc...
Stalin has persecuted ALL the historic revolutionaries from 1917.
Marx was about dictatorship BY the worker FOR the workers, stalin is about dictatorship by himself OVER the worker.
Marx and left wing ideologies are about collective power, not the power of a dictator.
This is the base for the division Left versus Right since the French Revolution power for all against power of one or some.
Left Wing, and socialism ( including Marx ) were about democratic power. Then stalinism is not left wing.
There is no relation between the philosophy of Marx and the stalinism, the philosophy of Marx is based on autonomy, the emancipation of the worker, stalinism is based on the heteronomy of the power, of the society.
Marx is about the destruction of the economic exploitation, stalin was the come back of the economic exploitation.
If you ask the questions then it means that you don't know stalinism or Marx, or both.
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For the sciences the main difference bewtween left and right is open mind ( left ) vs closed mind (right).
It is not a problem of risk, the risk takers are on another line of antagonism independant from left vs right, this is egoism/selfcentred vs social link. On the first side the risk taker, there are libertarians and liberals in the european term, and they classify their antagonist as left.
Then left are not liberals , even if they share some views, but on the other hand real liberals share some views with conservatives ( they don't like solidarity for exemple).
There are many confusion, in the end the video look like a big strawman.
But all of that is wrong.
Just look at the countries that had left governement, with politics that have transformed the country : like nordics nations with lower economic inequalities, higher Human Developpement Index ( HDI ), more individiuals freedoms than in conservatives nations, less violence , etc...
Conservatives politics means : great inequalities, leading to more violence, lower HDI, less social protection, more misery, less indivdual freedom.
What you say about the economic is false, if there is no politic of solidarity for sharing wealth, the lower class can be taken away from the economic growth. In the 19th century, conservatives capitalists were very richs while their workers were kept in the state of misery. It was socailist movement and the more humanist liberal that made more human politics for giving rights and freedoms to the workers.
If conservatives does not fear a socailist , communist or anything assimilated to this, revolution, revolt, they don't do anything for the middle and lower class.
Yes conservative fear novelty, that is why they keep the system like it is, it defends the inequalities,the power of the elits, etc....
They odn't want a good society, they want a society they already know. In fact their happiness is at the cost of the social minorities well being and freedoms.
It favor religious beliefs over scientific knowledge, because it feeds their rigid mind. Scientific knowledge brings a part of uncertainity that conservatives can't stand.
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+ s c
There is a confusion between logic of ideas, and ideas of peoples.
The positions about the variety of issues from liberals and conservatives label are not arbitrary, because each camp is related to a logic of ideas.
And each logic of ideas, antagonists logic of ideas, leads to have a specific position about a specific issue, becasue they are related to psychological drives.
In addition there are four logic of ideas, the other two can share positions from both side, or have a specific point of view about an issue.
But real persons can be driven by different motivations , on different issues, becasue the psychology of people can be complex. This is why people can be not 100% in line with the theoric position of their camp.
For example some politic positions are related to rigidity of mind, but net everybody is 100% rigid mind, in fact it must be rare to be 100% rigid mind and not pretty, then some people can be driven by their rigidity on some issues, but be more opened, using more their intelligence on some other issue.
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@junkim5853
Stop to be irrational and ignorant.
Your introduction is a pure joke when you know the history of the Nazi party, when you know and UNDERSTAND the ideology.
"Nazis are not a right wing faction they sought to take heavy control on social provisions."
Pure ignorance of Nazism, and left versus right antagonism.
Then it can't be an argument.
Left versus right is about concentration of power, about equality of power ( real left wing, and democracy) versus hierarchic power (right wing). And nazism is all about hierarchic power! Nazism is against equality.
Claiming and being is not the same thing. I guess that many criminal claim to be honest or innocent.
Nazim is not socialism , but nationalism, and antagonist to socialism . The nazi hate socialism and communism. Nazi persecuted and killed socialists.
Nazis were on the right wing side of the German assembly!!!!!
All what you say is just plain wrong there is nothing progressive in nazism, it is anti progressive, anti modernist, it belongs in the reactionary family.
Left give right and freedom to workers, nazism removed all right and power inside the enterprise.....
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Fascism is against communism, socialism, worker's unions, democracy, universal suffrage, equality, against freedom of women, against racial equality, against a world of peace.
Fascism is for order, hierarchy, identity, rule of one , sexism, war, working hand in hand with capitalists .
Beign for sexism , identity, etc.. do not make them anti conservatives, they are anti progressives in fact.
Pinochet and mussolini had economic politic based on economic liberalism, abolition of worker's unions, abolition of worker's rights. They have arrested, assassinated left wing peoples.
They are definitively far right.
Anti communism is not left wing.
reactionaries are against communism, liberalism , and they are far right.
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@williamjewell6247
Well i don't know what you have in mind, but the US healthcare, is not really the model for healthcare in the world.The in the world public healthcare in most advanced countries are not dependents from private healthcare, of of private donors, doctors have a wage, etc....
Funding of public healthcare can be done by state, municipalities, taxes, delayed wage, etc....
If public healthcare give the best healthcares in the world, this is because they are not what you describe.
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@williamjewell6247
Public service, should be at the service of the public, and this is the duty of the state, or other collective institution , to allow peoples to get universal healthcare.
This is how it works in most of the countries.
Then i don't see where you want to go, but not how it works in democratic countries.
Why? because it is at the service of the public, it allows universal healthcare, and then cover everybody, and not just the peoples who can pay private assurance and hospital. Then the global health level of the population is better.
Health is not a question of choice, it is something needed for having a free life, and not being limited by disease, disability .. or death. This is why in democratic society they offer universal healthcare to all the individual.
Health of individuals is more important than external drive like economic profit, in democratic societies, where the individual, the human is the drive of the society .
Floor prices are made to allow peoples to get healthcare even if they are not riches
Let those who need healthcare, to get healthcare.
This is the base of free ( or low cost ) and universal healthcare in democracies.
What matters is the point of view of everybody. And everybody need healthcare at a moment, then the end of your message is meaningless.
When you see which countries do not have universal healthcare, we can see that you attack against universal healthcare is not for the defense of the freedom. Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, some African countries , including the chaotic Somalia, this is not a list of free and healthy countries who do not allow universal healthcare.
Then you don't understand what you are defending. It looks that you don't care about the freedom of the individual to get healthcare, because public healthcare allow universal healthcare, the healthcare for peoples who need it.
Freedom to everybody to get healthcare, or exclusion of peoples from healthcare and health services, by price, religion, nationality, sex, etc...
This is the real ideological antagonism.
Democracies choose the first by allowing universal healthcare supported by public institutions.
Peoples who do not care about the individual , and lock him in stereotypes, prejudices , etc...choose the second.
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@williamjewell6247
"that is not the purpose or job of the state"
What is the purpose of a state is a question of ideology and politic applying this ideology : giving drive to the society, to the state.
Drive by security and fear only , or in one concept reject of loss , is a right wing ideology, not a general drive for all ideological orientations .
What you say was right in the antiquity and in the middle age, nice eras known for their great freedom of individual.
A state driven by security and fear, does not defend individuals but Order.
This is why in this societies, where state was just about security, there was slavery, no freedom of speech, etc...
Oh and you don't know read what i say, because i speak about other collectives institutions, not just the state....
Public universal healthcare is about seeing everyone as individual,, and that all individual can need healthcare.
Non universal healthcare do not see peoples as individual , but just purses on feet, or reduced to some categories like religion, nation, sex,, race, etc ....
I speak about the countries who have and who don't have universal healthcare, then about facts not theory, and you do like if the most advanced democracies did not have universal healthcare.
What you say is is not what says reality.
Public universal healthcare give better coverage than non public non universal healthcare.
Then i don't see what you try to defend.
We don't care if riches peoples don't have more money than they already have.
Health of individual is more important than big purses in the hand of the riches. Your position makes you anti individualist, you don't c are about the individual, you care just about the ego of the riches who want more money.
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