Comments by "marriage causes divorce" (@marriagecausesdivorce7540) on "Jonathan Noble Esquire" channel.

It's refreshing to hear from someone who is clearly very intelligent, experienced and accomplished (a family law attorney) say marriage isn't a sensible/rational bet. So many people are indoctrinated to believe marriage is the only way to do things and then get the shock of their life when they lose 50%, 60% or even 70% of everything on divorce. We are so lucky this channel exists.
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The interesting part of the 50% divorce rate is that the other 50% who do not get divorced are not necessarily happy and wished they had more freedom and less stress. This whole concept of a 50 year marriage (which turns out to be a 8 year marriage followed by losing your money, house and kids, and 10 years of paying child support) is insane. If only young people knew.
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Thank you for everything you do Jonathan. The thoughtful and insightful information you provide on the dangers/pitfalls of marriage is exactly what young men need today. Hollywood just doesn't explain this type of stuff. I am a survivor of the UK divorce/family court system. I lost 70% of everything. Your voice is also needed and appreciated worldwide.
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The problem with covert narc's is that they are initially good at hiding it. And before you know it, you are sucked in by their Jezebel nature. Particularly if you don't have much experience with women or have a scarcity mindset. I divorced a covert narc and they are brutal to be married to and divorce. They are never happy. Its always your fault.
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@boston312 in some sense, you're extremely lucky (not because you have lost a friend), but because you have seen the nature of some wives and the unfairness of the legal system up close and personal without your assets being on the line. I am refusing to let my son marry until he has watched Jonathan's channel, the lead attorney's channel, coach greg adams, rich cooper's channel, the rational male, fresh and fit, and read all their books.
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Thank you, Jonathan. You mentioned you are licenced in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. Are you able to say if these states are Community property or Equitable distribution? The UK is an equitable distribution country. The UK Family Courts are ruthless when it comes to divorce. You can very easily lose 70% of the marital pot if she has student loans, is working part time, has a child, etc.
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@copcuffs9973 I have CS, no alimony, no parental alienation, but lost 70% of all my money/assets/home equity. In the UK, each person pays their own legal fees but money/assets does not get split 50: 50. It gets split based on need.
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Married is so dangerous they had to invent pre-nups. I wish I had got a pre-nup to insist 50 : 50 property division. Instead, I was a complete idiot and went into marriage unprotected, and ended up losing 70% of everything. Getting married and getting married without a pre-nup are the biggest 2 mistakes of my life that will haunt forever. I just thought divorce would never happen to me and I just thought the family courts were fair (I was wrong on both counts).
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Such an important video that all men should watch before they marry, co-habit or have kids. This video could save you an enormous amount of stress, money and pain over a lifetime. While the laws are designed to protect the vulnerable, they regularly get abused and normally come at huge cost/expense to the man.
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Guys, never marry a drama queen or someone addiction to drama and chaos. The problem you will find is that a lot of the signs only come out once she has secured the ring, house and kids. Once she has the ring, house and kids, as a man you pretty much have zero leverage and power in family court.
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So much money wasted on spousal support and legal fees. If guys are going to co-habit and/or get married, they need to have an iron-clad pre-nup. It will give you so much financial security in the next 50 years of your marriage (if your marriage lasts that long). He got pumped and dumped by the divorce system. He probably tried to help her by giving her kids, and she and the courts threw him under the bus. Marriage is about money and babies.
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I'm in the UK and you cannot go in. Family cases are behind closed doors. Because of this UK judges can do whatever they want, they have way too much power, the system is unreliable (different judges award different amounts), and the system is open to abuse from judges. I lost 70% of my money and assets (including my house) in my UK divorce. Some of these judges are very biased and/or incompetent. Hence the reason Johnny Depp lost his DV case in the UK.
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These 304s are not complicated. They are simply delusional. If a man behaved liked a 304 we would describe that men as delusional, irrational, illogical and a complete PITA.
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I agree with this video. But one thing worth mentioning is that even if she does have genuine burning desire/love for you, this will eventually fade 8 years down the line once you have bought her the house and given her kids. She will eventually find something to moan and complain about, and without a pre-nup Karen the divorce judge will give her the money, house and kids on divorce. Marriage is a huge tactical/strategic error for most guys.
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She would be a nightmare to deal with in a child custody battle. It seems like she wants 18 years of child support payments from you.
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100% facts. Wives don't marry to get husbands. They marry to get financial security and babies.
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This is a really interesting view point. I think you are right. Divorce is very traumatic and uncertain. I think mums go into survival mode for themselves and kids, and get encouraged to play dirty by womanist divorce attorneys and independent boss babe friends. This survival instinct has been very important in allowing humans to grow to a population of 8 billion+.
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Lets face it. A lot of people today are not marriage material. Over a 50 year marriage the chances of you staying happily married are slim and therefore you will spend the 50 years worried how badly you are going to get destroyed in divorce. With all the uncertainty and unfairness in the family court system (I lost 70% in the UK) you need to consider if marriage is worth it in terms of risk/benefit.
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Disbursements don't really exist in the UK. Each party pays their own legal fees. The laws are already quite ruthless in the UK but sometimes I wish they were worse so marriage would go extinct more quickly. In the 1970's there were 400k marriages/year but now there are only 200k marriages/year in the UK. Marriages are expected to drop in further in 2020 when the data comes out. Do not get married.
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Looks like you dodged a bullet. Let her be another man's problem.
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@apureenergyme9 facts. Men are essentially indoctrinated to believe in marriage and to do the right thing. There is no counter narrative as men for a long time have been are very secretive/embarrassed about their divorce court humiliation. It's only now men are speaking out and learning what is really going on.
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@lagoonlane Why does signing a piece of paper and exchanging jewellery give the kids the best chance? If two doctors do not get married, I am sure the kids will be fine. If two criminals do get married, the kids will struggle. Your argument doesn't make any sense and doesn't take into account the income of the parents as being the main factor behind a child's success. Lower income parents tend not to get married hence the lower chance of offspring success (it is the income not the marriage that makes the difference).
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@LatimusChadimus Facts. As they say, marriage causes divorce.
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so true, when divorce lawyers are saying do not get married, what more do men need? some men need to be burned and go through the pain before they learn.
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@xcurrentbreeze6626 marriage and divorce are linked because once you get married the wife can apply for divorce anytime in the next 50+ years. Therefore if you think the divorce laws are unfair, that means marriage is unfair because the wife will have all the leverage in that marriage, as she can threaten the husband with divorce at any time. Therefore marriage is still the worst financial decision a man will probably ever make. This explains why marriage rates are declining and marriage rates are at an all time low.
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@Eric-kn4yn we all know Karen the divorce judge is just going to assume the dad is a dead beat and is hiding income. Therefore Karen is going to jump to conclusions and punish the father without evidence. Miscarriages of justice in family court happen against men all the time.
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@BRIANDER100 the biggest part of vetting is getting an iron-clad pre-nup. telling her you lost your job won't help you in divorce court. karen the divorce judge will just impute income and still destroy you without a pre-nup. you should know someone for around 5 years before marrying them and walk away as soon as you see any red flags.
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@Re3iRtH it was a short marriage. England, United Kingdom (UK)
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@Re3iRtH in the UK, once there are kids involved she can get 100% after 1 year. however it normally ends up 70 : 30 for average people or 50 : 50 if they are millionaires.
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@Red Baron I don't mind being on the lowest level as my divorce also involved a child. However judges just go to extreme % splits and don't take into account lies, hidden assets and future circumstances if this means the % split will be smaller for the ex-wife.
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@danwelterweight4137 100%. I will never be one of these guys that end up getting divorced 2 or 3 times.
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bro. if the judge is a f3minist, it doesn't matter about the lawyers. the judge will just throw the husband under the bus. judges normally make wrong decisions, hence the appeals process.
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The problem is. Most men going into marriage think divorce will never happen to them during the next 50 years and most men think the divorce courts/judges are fair. Big mistake. As a man, you will be the last consideration in a divorce and as a result you will get absolutely screwed over. Do not get married and do not co-habitat. I lost 70% in my divorce.
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What type of % splits do you see in equitable distribution cases? I lost 70% in my UK divorce.
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@seuratguy seems very reasonable. I wish the UK had the same system.
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Marriage has always been fundamentally flawed. Imperfect strangers handcuffing themselves together for life. What could possibly go wrong? The flaws are now obvious in modern society, e.g. religion doesn't keep marriages together as much, divorce culture spreading, independent boss babe culture spreading, IG promoting unrealistic expectations, Tinder promoting options, more and more adults coming from broken families themselves, higher earning wives, family courts determined to maintain the wife's standard of living by financially ruining the husband, etc. Long term (30 - 60 years) marriage is doomed.
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Most men don’t even realize what marriage even is. Practically speaking, the husband is promising to lose his money, house, and kids on divorce to his ex-wife. Most guys think this will never happen to them and only realize how stupid they have been when it’s too late.
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