Comments by "Horatio82" (@horatio8213) on "Military History not Visualized"
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@konstantinkelekhsaev302 Every of Stalin's diplomatic move was calcualated to weaken peace in Europe. Officialy he support peace, but in secret he was building biggest army in the world. Hitler with Stalin's help, invade Poland first because he need first secure his rear to fight predicted long war with France and England and avoide germans mistakes from WWI. You just mention official propaganda resons to invade Poland, in reality Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact give both dictators what they want, possibility to conquere parts of Europe they want to grab. In the secret part of Pact both sides agree to secure sphere of influnence in Europe. Officialy that Pact was nonaggression, but in reality it was military and political alliance agianst enemy of both regimes. Look on faith of Poland, Baltic States and Winter War. Without cooperation from Stalin Hitler never can invade Poland, knowing that Red Army with ten thousends of planes, tanks and artillery is waiting to strike him in back when he go to invade France, the first who propose aggremment was Stalin, not Hitler. France and England never want to agree to soviet occupation of Poland and Baltic States, because that was Stalin's price for war with Hitler. Everybody knows that when Red Army go to "help" never go away without war. Ask Poles, Lithuenians, Latvians, Estonians or Finish citizen. Long war was only in interest os Stalin's plans to secure soviet invasion on West. If Stalin want stability and peace why he didn't order his army attack Germans in 1939 when they were weakened after invasion of Poland. Why he didn't send enough weapons and soldiers to crush Franco rebellion. No one stop Germans and Italians to do it against Republicans. In 1939 Stalin have all reasons and means to stop Hitler if he want peace. Insteed he choose to give Hitler everything he needs to wage war for next years. Why on Stalin's order NKVD killed thousends of thousends "liberated" citizens of conquered countries? There is trurth in old verb that picture tell more than thousend words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eGo-NEcEVI
Or this Stalin's speech :
https://petroleks.ru/stalin/14-27.php
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@konstantinkelekhsaev302 In respone to your "Suvorov" claim:
1. Yes german plans were ready, like soviet or other countries in the world, because every country have some war plans against enemies. Look on american Plan Orange. Without Stalin Hitler was against Poland and his allies alone, even Italy choose to join war in 1940 in the last days of fall of France. Stalin help Hitler backstabbing Poland 17th X 1939, when USSR and Poland have nonaggression pact in the time! First date of german attack was 24th IX 1939 and it was stopped by Hitler after british guarantees for Poland. When pact Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact was sign Hitler decide attack at 1st IX.
2. GB nad France didn't recogniz soviet claim about Baltic States and never admit to legilize the annexation. For then in years 1940-1991 Baltic States were under Soviet occupation and no legal action was taken against this countries property and citizens. The case is simple, for France and England this countries were under occupation, still weren't part of Soviet Union like Crimea today.
3. This is the text of secret part of this agreement. In it you have simple decision to devide independent countries to "sphere of interest" of both Germany and USSR. It precise with countries will be under soviet and german rule.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/german-soviet-nonaggression-pact
Here you information about have text and map about appendix to this treaty:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Frontier_Treaty
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
Notiece the change in Lithuania border agreed without informing legal lithuanian goverment! Even before soviet capture and occupied Lithuania! And correction in new german-soviet border in occupied Poland according to previous pact!
4. This was modification of Treaty of Versile and agreement to limit new german navy! Not secret plan to invade other countries!
4.II. West appease Hitler because Soviet Union and rise of Red Army. USSR, wich was arming to aggression on his "capitalist enemies" long before Hitler came to power. Lenin and Stalin cooperate with Germany in rebuilding german army before 1933, places like german Kama tank school are proof of real soviet intentions. Stalin want an all out war in Europe and Hitler give him that. Many times Stalin in his speeches said that he will wait to capitalist destroy itself and only then Soviet Union will join to fight!
https://warontherocks.com/2016/06/sowing-the-wind-the-first-soviet-german-military-pact-and-the-origins-of-world-war-ii/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_tank_school
5. Do you want know hostile army on your territory to "help" you? Because that was reality for everybody, just look on how "help" for Baltic States in 1940 from Red Army work for them! Poland choose to fight with Germany, because they knew what happen when Red Army go to Poland. France and GB fight with Germans all time from 1939 t0 1945. In 1939-40 was Allied plans to help Finland defence against USSR or even bomb soviet Baku oil plant witch was producing oil for Germans! Even other occupied countries were still in fight, look on chehoslovakian and polish arm forces in the second world war. In the same time USSR was helping III Reich with large quantity of war materials and NKVD kill civilian, officials and officers from Poland and Baltic States as a enemy of USSR! Gestapo and NKVD exchange prisoners and cooperate in suppressing ressistance in occupied teritories!
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