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soviets saved whoever they could in tat disastrous famine, unfortinatly they couldn't save everyone due to it's severeity and backstabbing of kulaks. Seen some insane people here claiming that kulaks couldn't use their accumulated wealth due to regulated economy. Clearly idiotic idea since there was still barter trade among peasants and pepole living in cities.
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@perimarc6008 Let me answer those questions. 1) The reason to disallow farmers from leaving thteir farmlands during the time of poor harvest is so that they'd plant a new one to be so that the NEXT year would be better. Is it that hard to comprehend? 2) The reason why Stalin redistributed food from Ukrainians to other places is because USSR was a big country and everyone wanted to eat, not only Ukrainians. May be surprise to you, but all huan beings need food, not only Ukrainains. 3) Foreign aid wasn't free and Stlain made his best effort to get as much as possible with what limited resources he had at hand, for example from Persia. Futhermore, don't lie about hiding it - Fridtjof Wedel-Jarlsberg Nansen made his point in Legaue of Nations that there is famine in USSR and was quickly kicked out of it for suggesting support. The West pretty much hated communists and wanted them all to die at that point. 4) Stalin was selling grain cause a) foreign markets only accepted Soviet grain and not it's money in goods exchange b) As soon as he got to know about extent of the disaster (lied upon by Ukrainians apointed in charge of Ukraine) the sell stopped. Cope better, westoid.
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@drbubonic4942 famine doesn't equal genocide, my braindead friend.
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Commies - famine happened, yes, not intentional, nor new one, since the region were infamous for such. What happened in Tsarists Russia for hundreds of years was ended by the glorious USSR. Deal with it.
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@Channel-23s Ah, yes, all those billions executed personally by Stalin. It's not like he wanted to build a state for his own and it's not like under him there were numerous gifts to those that show good reults. lmao.
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@ryan.1990 well, burden of proof lies on the one who claims the thing first ,i.e. on you. So how exactly you imagine those "same" arguments being?
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@ryan.1990 sure, bud, not debating about equalizing fake atrocity with real historical one too. Not a good look indeed to mix them up.
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@turtlefungusismywaifu how do you define sucess, though? Hoe upper class opress the lower ones? - yeah, monarchism and capitalism were sucessful in that.
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@danielturczan2485 it suffered a lot of such and you are ignorant if you think otherwise.
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@D4rkmatter massacres such as the ones in 2014 in Odessa and Mariupol committed by Ukrainian military, and Ukrainian nationalists, eh?
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tankes are not loan-sharks, though.
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very much independent Poland had hunger at that time too. Many coutnries did, which were not related to USSR in any way, duh. You are just ignorant.
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@marceelino yeah, yeah, they also fight with shovels only and use chips from stolen washing machines in their rockets, that's why they ar retreating on all fronts... wait.
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cool story, bro. All sent into Gulags were innocent saints, and not murderors, rapists, thiefs and cannibals, sure.
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@nox5555 thieves - not often, killers - depends on whom you killed and why. The important thing was always to get every crime punished, the death penalty wasn't often used, especially after the purges of 30s.. And eveyr citizen was essentially secret police, - you didn't need extra if you taught well regular citizens to pinpoint oddities in the behaviour of their neigbours.
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And the simple answer is - they used to exploit they fellow men and expected to do the same in dire situations too by using barter economy and echange their excess in food with valuables from less fortunate. When they were denied that option - they opt to hide what they could and destroy the rest to artificially upscale even more the barter value of their excess. As simple as.
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I guess you love dem loan-sharks then, cause that's exactly who kulaks were.
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@RáiseiþMeinaÞiudaWiþrRūmōneis a famine. As simple as.
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ah, yes, famine happening for hundred of years is the fault of communism, sure.
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lies
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People write only truth in letters, I got you.
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@SHDW-nf2ki two of my relatives were sent into gulag. One due to being drunkard piece of shit, the other (evetually pardoned) for being clueless idiot that was taken advanage by kulak who shifted the blame on him. I'm still hardcore Stalinist cause the ideals of Soviet Union are worth living and dying for.
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except absolutely opposite cause he had no nation in mind to be supreior to others. All people of Soveit Union were equals, compared to the Germany.
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nice meme.
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@Scornfull issues of famine would be much greater if the state wouldn't interfere into it. After all, majority of population DOES live in cities, duh.
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@debanydoombringer1385 what are you snoking? Russians saw themselves as equal to everyone and everyone saw themselves as equals to Russians in Soviet Union. Yes, there were attempts of nationalists to upstage it... like Georgians, Dagestani, Ichkeria, Baltic, Ukrainian ones, but thankfully they were crushed. No nazism was allowed in Soviet Russia not then, not now.
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nice one defending loan-sharks, cause that's exactly who kulaks were and how they gathered their initial wealth.
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@jesseparrish1993 1) and they weren't Don't know what fairytales you read, but a) most of disgusting loan-sharks were lynched by mob of people they exploited in the past - long before soviet authorities came in power. b) Those executed by Soviet authorities committed crimes and were absoolutely judged in due process. 2) it WAS and it is a definition of kulak = exploiter. The word Kulak literally translates as a "fist", meaning a person that takes a hold of the village he resides in either by indebting the rest, physically crushing opposition (by himself, his family members or by hired henchmen, aka kingpin) to his despotic rule or both. 3) Famine indeed happened, there was no genocide in it occuring as it occured before that for hundreds of years and was finally ended by Soviets.
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@Scornfull so you have zero counter-arguments, figures. Emotional response won't change the facts.
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So he used a loophole to dodge taxation and you still consider him to be innocent? Lmao.
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why can't capitalists go fuck off to their iwn coutnries? The South Koreans has literally depressing "dog ieats dog world" saying about your degenerative idelas that you forced on them and every single entertainment product or movie coming from South Korea has deep gripes with what you infested their country with. Also remmeber those camps that Japanese occupiers created where they abducted local girls and raped them constantly during ww2? Americans did the same thing with KOreans in Korean war, a fact showing what a filth you trully are.
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@Brent-jj6qi sure, this one wasn't intentional, though.
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@Scornfull Taking food from the people because others have as bad of a situation or not worse. Are you a city dweller? Imagine being cut off form any food supply, now imagine same situation but in the village, where you at least have a forest nearby to eat something of leser nutrient value. You get it now? The cold northern Soviet cities had the same torulbe as the southern warm villages, but if not for Stalin's effort - it would get much worse overall.
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@zlbm0 It can, and those newer things can be: 1) Japan, stealing Imperial treasury (tehcnically taking it for safekeeping but they never gave it back to the surviving white movement members that fled into Australia and such) - i.e. state having less resources than previously 2) International diplomacy - i.e. everyone hating Soviets guts and refusing to trade with it with whatever but grain givrn in return 3) Kulak movement - i.e. expoiters trying to epploit situation further to their benefit like only selling their excess for other's family heirloom while hoarding the rest etc.
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@martyr_lightsilver1833 speak for yourself, nazi. Death of people never a good thing and should be fight the best you can like soviets did, saving as many as they could.
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@MentisWave and you still provided no evidence, thanks for confirming that you are a pathological liar then.
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lmao, what a bullshit.
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@StrawHat83 it's very funny when ignorant people consider some WW1 LARPer as someone important from Russian government. Girkin was part of monarchists (which aren't really on Putin's side) passionaires that came to assits an underdog that Donbass was in Ukrainian civil war. Russia viewed getting rid of extremist like himself as benefitionary for reinforcing intenral peace so the government didn't mind those people going to Donbas.. still, it never ecnouraged volonteers. In fact, they were discoraged the moment DPR attempted to recruit on the Red Square - it was too much of imposing and was quickly denied.
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except that kulaks are the real thing you see everyday - loansharks, mobsters, despots, etc.
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@AJadedLizard congratulations, now try your best to get real counter-argument.
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@pathfindersavant3988 so you see wtiches everyday? Should probably consult with the doctor then, or better yet - go to your next loanshark and kiss his boots if you like kulaks so much.
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@AJadedLizard you are countering the fact that very evil real people need to be dealt with same with their evil practices of exploiting fellow men. Again, the simpliest example is loan-sharks. I know it's hard to think for libtard, but at least try.
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Convention on cluster bombs was signed in 2008, my dude. Everyone was using it before. And you equalizing a war with unforutante annual events is disgusting. There was nothing new about southern Russian famine, it happened constantly for hundreds of years and Soviets were the ones who eventulaly ended it, not the ones who started it. Quit smoking coke.
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@ what conversation? I was responding to a statement of some s nazi aologist, exposing his bullshit. The differences are night and day. Soviets treated their mentally ill, Germans exterminated such and so on.
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yes, fuck the shark debt-owners and bottom feeders that kulaks were.
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Did he, though? The work was published suspiciously in 2014 right when US organised a coup in Ukraine to make it into genocidal hellscape ruled by dictatorship it is today.
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@Brent-jj6qi ah, yeah ,prviding education, electricity, drinking water and medicine for everyone opressed poor barbarians who wanted to keep living in caves. It's not liek USSR was the reason behind the whole that de-colonisation movement that set numerous coutnries free from the western opression.
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They didn't enforce their evil regime yet at that point, though. Also, it's hilarious non point since ya know - all those nazi divisions from the occupied lands including French ones (that were more numerous than their oh so famous Resistance was).
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kulak is a loan-shark that gets initial wealth by exploiting others, not so different from nobility parasites.
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cause every single country that went through industrialization went through it. Ever heard of "sheep ate people" era of England? There simply weren't counter measures for lack of farmers turned into factory workers short-time wise. Hunger was inevitable for every single nation that became modern.
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