Comments by "Janie Swanson" (@janieswanson2549) on "VICE" channel.

  1.  @hen4699  "Why take any animal's life when you don't need to?" Ask yourself. You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. "and I do believe breading animals to kept as pets is pretty bad" People usually don't bread their pets. breading - The process of covering food with bread crumbs, cracker crumbs or also nuts, before it is cooked to improve the flavor and texture of the food after it has been prepared. Just another liar and hypocrite on the internet pretending to be vegan while virtue signaling for attention.
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  2.  @hen4699  Explaining away your ignorance? So nothing to refute me? Anything else liar?
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  3.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  Same old desperation from you. You claimed I eat animal products. Prove it. The burden of proof fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone tries to evade their burden of proof, by denying it, pretending to have fulfilled it, or shifting it to someone else.
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  4.  @hen4699  "If we needed meat to survive, vegetarians and vegans wouldn’t be cited as some of the healthiest populations on earth." More fan fiction. "It’s a fact that humans don’t need animal flesh to survive." And yet here you are using animal products intentionally and needlessly. "than your argument is invalid." Just like everything you ever type. Just more virtue signaling trash from a liar and a hypocrite.
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  5.  @hen4699  "..I'm so done with this.." And still lying. "Are you going to provide any evidence that it’s fanfiction or are you simply going to pretend like it is?" Sure. Look it up and research objectively. Start with the Mediterranean diet. "I’m not using animal products needlessly, hon." I see we have moved into the sexism... Babbling at strangers on the internet who have proved you're a liar and a hypocrite on multiple occasions is needless. "I’m using animal products" Needlessly. Anything else?
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  6. Why do you use animal products while whining at your betters for using the same animal products? You seem hypocritical.
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  7.  @hen4699  "How so?" Private property is a human right. "I’d say that vegans are helping more than they’re hurting." To be vegan one would have to not eat or use animal products. None of those people are vegan. "Also, if we were to stop farming animals, the grain used to feed them could solve world hunger according to some studies." 85%+ of livestock feed is inedible to humans. 12% of the edible grains given to livestock are first processed in industry. The remainder couldn't feed the population of Rhode Island. "Not to mention the giant ass elephant in the room, meat CAUSES heart disease and cancer." Gluttony, not meat. You're confusing a proper balanced diet with gluttony. People on a plant based diet get heart disease and cancer like everyone else. "So who is really for human rights here?" The people who don't try to force others to eat a FAD diet.
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  8. That's a strawman. It's illegal to trespass. If someone kicks in your door and sits down and drinks a glass of water would you be okay with that? I mean....they just drank a glass of water.
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  9.  @Spencer-lq3yd  No. I would call the police because beating the dog in that context is illegal. You however would go to jail for burglary.
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  10.  @hen4699  All humans are omnivores. No humans are vegan.
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  11.  @hen4699  "..I'm so done with this.." Back again I see. And? All humans are omnivores. No humans are vegan.
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  12.  @hen4699  And you still use products made with that same brutal death intentionally and needlessly.
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  13.  @hen4699  And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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  14. Religious extremists are willing to go to jail for far less.
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  15.  @hen4699  Chickens were bred and raised to be eaten, as are cattle, and pigs. We also breed and slaughter them for animal products used in technology. You should know as you use some of that technology just to virtue signal on the internet. You're dogs and cats argument falls flat as they are a cultural delicacy and not bred for cuisine. Anything else?
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  16.  @hen4699  "..I'm so done with this.." Another lie. "1.)There are dog breeds in the past that were bred primarily for meat." In the past..... I said what is and you're babbling about what was. Cool story though. "2.) Chickens weren’t originally bred for eating." They were originally "kept" for cockfighting and originally "bred" for eating. "3.) A delicacy is still a food choice by definition-just rarer." So you agree with me... Good. "4.)" LOL Then do something about it? "5.)" Yawn... Just more babble. "6.)" And nothing relevant again. Just more logical fallacies. "Wahh, emotions, cry, blubbering. Edit: Because you did. Anything else?
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  17.  @andrewmccool5923  "Why do you believe they’re attempting to free the enslaved animals?" Because like you they are virtue signaling liars and hypocrites seeking attention. You use products made with the same dead animals.
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  18.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  Livestock aren't human. You're comparing human atrocity to livestock farming that we all benefit from. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. That seems hypocritical.
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  19.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. That seems hypocritical. Can't answer to this of course. Why do you use animal products while pretending to be against the consumption of animal products?
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  20.  @crow-y5k  He isn't a teenager. The person I replied to is older. He used to have his own picture, but he took it down and changed his name when he really dived in to extremism.
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  21.  @hen4699  And you whine at me for spamming you when you're spamming the comment section. Sigh... You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use. Practice what you preach. Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with animal products.
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  22.  @hen4699  "God I feel sorry for your clothes. That bloods never coming out!" What blood? Do you make things up for fun or because facts make you feel bad? LOL... Thanks for win.
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  23.  @hen4699  Still can't tell me what blood is on my bloodless clothes? Anything else liar?
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  24.  @felixsatterly5031  Rape is uniquely human and illegal. Fact. You claim you don't use animal products even though computers and servers are made with animal products. Thanks for proving me right and you a liar.
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  25.  @hen4699  "Again, veganism means reducing animal suffering when you can." Veganism and vegan are different words. I say you're not vegan because technically you're not vegan. You don't practice veganism because you're here replying to a stranger that is possible and practicable to avoid. You're just another virtue signaling liar and hypocrite playing pretend. And more name calling as expected. Prove I am a carnist. Good luck with that.
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  26.  @hen4699  "Nope they are one in the same by definition." Wrong again. Vegan (noun) - a person who does not eat or use animal products. This is the definition of "vegan" created by the Vegan Society. "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose." This is the definition of "veganism" created by the Vegan Society. Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle. It is not the definition of a person. "Also name calling??" Yes. "You are the one who has been calling me a liar this entire time you massive hypocrite??" You are a liar. You use animal products and you claimed you didn't. You lied. You admitted to it. Prove I am a carnist.
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  27.  @hen4699  "Veganism is the act of causing the least amount of suffering possible." Veganism is a doctrine about a lifestyle of reducing harm as much as possible and practicable which you don't do. "you don't have the right to gatekeep the word veganism." I am using the definitions created by the Vegan Society. Are you saying they are gatekeeping? "I can tell you are carnist because no vegan would be trying this hard to justify their actions by saying" If a carnist is anyone that isn't vegan then everyone is a carnist. I am not vegan. You are not vegan. No on is vegan. Everyone currently living eats and/or uses animal products. "WeLl YoU CaNt ReDuCe AlL ThE sUfFeRiNg yOu CaUsE So YoU ArENt VeGAN!!11" I never said this or anything like it. This is the appeal to futility fallacy. There is nothing wrong with reducing suffering. There is nothing wrong with helping others to reduce suffering. I am just calling out liars and hypocrites that lie about being vegan and practicing veganism like yourself. "..I'm so done with this.." We will see. Anything else?
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  28.  @hen4699  IF you actually practiced what you preached you wouldn't be here to make such inane comments. Anything else liar?
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  29.  @hen4699  "Yeah because farmers are the real victims here, right? " Yes. He is doing what the law allows and people who are breaking the law are trying to hurt his livelihood. "Not the planet that is being destroyed so that meat eaters can continue with their destructive habits " It's not just meat eaters that use animal products. For example. You use products made with the same dead animals just so you can virtue signal on the internet. "Not the farm animals that are forced to live through years of torture for no good reason" Appeal to emotion and generalization. "Not the people who have sadly been kidnapped and forced to work in the fishing industry " More virtue signaling. Why aren't you fighting against that instead of whining about food? "Not the people who have sadly lost their lives to food related illnesses caused by meat" Gluttony* not meat. Plant based dieters get food related illnesses as well. "Not the slaughterhouse workers that have higher rates of PTSD " They choose to work there. "Nope it’s the farmers who are the victims" Exactly. Glad you agreed in the end.
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  30.  @andrewmccool5923  You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Go practice what you preach. Win/win for everyone. You get to finally live the life you lie about living and we don't have to see your virtue signaling hypocrisy any more.
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  31.  @andrewmccool5923  You use products made with the same dead animals. It must be okay with you to kill animals as well.
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  32.  @andrewmccool5923  "You know he’s only raising them to profit off of their dead bodies, right?" And everyone uses those dead bodies. You use products made with the same dead animals that everyone else uses. You're just like everyone else.
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  33.  @Mike-hn7vc  All of the time. I answered your inane question, now answer the simple question based on fact that I asked you.
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  34.  @Mike-hn7vc  Of course you do. How do you think you replied? Smoke signals? Try again. Be honest.
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  35.  @Mike-hn7vc  So you justify your needless use of animal products for entertainment which is perfectly avoidable because of where you chose to work and live? Cool story. Thanks for proving you don't practice what you preach and you make excuses. I accept your concession since you didn't answer the simple question honestly without excuses.
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  36.  @Mike-hn7vc  Replying to me is needed for survival? Why are all of the tribes around the world and people like the Amish still alive? Oh right...it's not actually needed for survival. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  37.  @Mike-hn7vc  And still, replying to me isn't needed for survival. Thanks for showing your moral inconsistency. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  38.  @Mike-hn7vc  Three replies? Unable to keep your thoughts together on your diet? "seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable" Which you don't do. Replying to me using YT servers is possible and practicable to avoid. Thanks for confirming my win. I accept your ongoing concession.
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  39.  @Mike-hn7vc  More excuses eh? Animal products come from the same animals. I accept your permanent concession.
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  40.  @hen4699  And you think you accomplish that by being on youtube's routers and servers made with animal products? Just another virtue signaling liar.
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  41.  @hen4699  And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims their done with me?
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  42.  @Srishti_Kaur  You made a whole wall of text to demonstrate your hypocrisy. You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people use while lying about being vegan so you can feel better about yourself. Just another liar and hypocrite.
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  43.  @andrewmccool5923  You use products made with the same dead animals. Stop being such a virtue signaling hypocrite.
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  44.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  You literally use animal products cut from the same dead animals that everyone else uses. Why are you such a hypocrite?
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  45.  @hen4699  So you think being a hypocrite is a good argument? You literally use products made with animal death. You still consume whatever animal is society acceptable with little regard to their lives.
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  46.  @hen4699  And more comment spam after claiming you were done. You lied. You admitted to being a hypocrite. Since all I am doing is outing liars and hypocrites, I win. Anything else person who claims they're done with me?
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  47.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  Livestock can't be murdered. Murder is uniquely human. Go ahead and toss out your irrelevant secondary definition that in context means "to wantonly slay (humans)." You appeal to emotions by using buzzwords like "murder" instead of just using facts and reason. That's why you will forever turn away more people than everyone else.
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  48.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  You use products made with the same dead animals that normal people eat. Do you consider yourself a hypocrite? Smart phones, computers, routers, and servers are made with dead animals.
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  49.  @NoInjusticeLastsForever  "Because you support the very thing you say you're against." So do you. You use products made with the same dead animals. Practice what you preach.
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  50.  @hen4699  "I simply said that they were starting a discussion." And breaking the law, harassing an honest man, and virtue signaling.
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