Comments by "" (@orboakin8074) on "Jabzy" channel.

  1. As a Nigerian, my simple answer for why Arabs continue to fail militarily and socioeconomically is: Bad geography, poor social and economic systems, poor culture that rejects innovation, meritocracy, or modernity, poor political systems, failing legal and social institutions, dutch disease, tribalism and others. Also, the colonialism excuse is just lazy and mainly used by tribalist Arabs as an excuse. Same way Pan-Africans use it as an excuse for Africa's failings.
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  2. Turkey is the ONLY Muslim country that wisely embraced modernity and reform when it needed to. The same way that Christianity and the west did during their reforms and modernisation. They (Turkey) wisely embraced the policies laid out by Harun al-Rashid and embraced tolerance, secularism, democracy, capitalism, industry, technology and education. The rest of the middle east had their chance but they will never do that and their region continues to decline as a result.
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  3. 8:27 Thank God for the Anglo-Zanzibar war that broke the slavers and led to many African slaves being freed. The British don't get nearly enough credit for this and many more acrions against Arab slavers.
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  4. Instability in the Middle East is clearly a feature, not a bug😕 Even if westerners never came there or modern Israel didn't come to be, the region would still be unstable due to their geography and especially their culture.
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  5. Israel literally advanced tanks close the capital of Egypt and we're on the brink of invading their capital 😂 Egypt didn't win Jack! They had to get the USA to mediate and help them get the Sinai back
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  6.  @Wood97718  wait, you do know that the Islamic golden age happened several millennia before European colonization, right? There was no interference then and the Arab and Muslims world still decided to abandon progress because of blind orthodoxy. Second, are you telling me the region of the middle east was always peaceful before Jews and European Jews came? Finally, the Ottomans were always more progressive and modernizing since the time of the Sultanate and not when the military took power. So you claiming such, is just wrong.
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  7. That is why Turkey is such an exceptional country in the Muslim world. They are the only ones to embrace modernity and reforms. The Muslim world had their chance with Harun al-Rashid but rejected his changes.
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  8. Don't worry. It will never happen because the region, countries, politics, cultures and people are too disunited and unstable and regressive in terms of economics, politics and geography and they always fight each other.
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  9. That's why the only Muslim regions/countries that do well are those that reject the Arabic Islamic culture. Examples: Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Oman, and Southwest Nigeria. They have cultures that promote tolerance, education capitalism democracy and industry and modernity
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  10. @fahoodie1852  so Operation Gazelle where Ariel Sharon pushed into the Sinai and advanced close to Egypt's capital of Cairo never happened? The subsequent battle of Sinai and breakthrough by Sharon that destroyed multiple Egyptian bases, occupied Egypt's bridgehead and the subsequent failures of Egyptian counterattacks on October 17 didn't happen at all?! the trapped and defeated Egyptian Third Army didn't happen?!🤣
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  11.  @nomoresunforever3695  well said. Ironically, the Arab world was once at the pinnacle of all these factors during their golden age under Harun al-Rashid but orthodox backlash (Imams in political and religious positions) rejected his reforms and the Arab world declined while the west and Christendom wisely embraced reforms and modernity. Turkey and a few other non-Arab Muslim countries wisely are now embracing reforms and improving because of it.
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  12.  @Aksarallah  friend, it's not that you can't be a Muslim and secular. It is a question of culture. Turkey clearly shows you can. Most Nigerian Muslims show you can. To be secular does not mean having no morals. It means not being ultra conservative and regressive. Also, In Christianity, it was once deemed sinful I to practice usary. Our religion also practiced debt slavery and never sanctioned things like liberalism, democracy, and women's suffrage. Guess what? Christianity wisely reformed and made changes for social and religious betterment. Islam was on the path to making these changes but orthodox forces stopped them. This is a fundamental weakness Islam has (i.e. a religion created as a basis for political and social building that can never be separated) unlike Christianity where Church and state are separate.
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  13. @fahoodie1852  they advanced 100km from Cairo. I dare you to check me if I am wrong about that.
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  14. What really screwed Islam and the middle east was when they abandoned the reforms and modernization of Harun al-Rashid during the golden age, while the west and Christendom wisely embraced change and benefit from it today. Turkey is the only Muslim country that actually reformed and modernized and is doing well because of that while maintaining their Muslim sense of identity and faith.
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  15. Sorry but that will never happen. Arabs and Muslims in the middle east rejected modernity, reform and secularism when they abandon d the golden age policies of Harun al-Rashid, while the west and Christendom wisely embraced such and benefits from it till this day, and they (Muslims and Arabs) have never made any efforts to try again.
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  16. I, as an African, love western civilization. They did what multiple African civilizations couldn't and wouldn't do. They condemned and ended slavery on the continent. Yeah, they partook in it but compared to the Arabs (who still practice it and have never recognized its evil) and many African kingdoms/empires, they actively worked to end it. Heck! In Nigeria, the Hausas/Fulani were infamous for enslaving those of us in the south (Yoruba, Edo, Igbo and others) until the British stopped them.
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  17.  @JIJCrow  I wonder why? Maybe because their civilization and economy and politics and institutions are far better and make for stable and better union?
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  18. @typiclyjohny5114  exactly. Heck, considering how these countries ended up fighting/expelling Palestinians despite "Arab solidarity", you are right.
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  19. 18:07 Palestinians ALWAYS betray and try to destabilize any Arab country that takes them in😒
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  20. @RJH8770  I am not an Israeli😕 Also, you can check if I am lying about Israel advancing 100km to Cairo during the Yom Kippur war. I'm waiting. Finally, how exactly did Israel fail during October 7? Over thousands of Hamas fighters and leaders ended, most of Gaza ruined, Hezbollah crushed and leaders ended, Syria defeated and Iran weakened, a ceasefire and they're getting their hostages back?
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  21. ​ @Aksarallah I didn't know you needed to be an atheist to be a secularist. Maybe my late President Yar'Adua of Nigeria, was secretly bit a Muslim. Maybe Turkey is secretly not a Muslim country despite being secular and more modern and developed than the rest of the Muslim world.
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  22.  @eljanrimsa5843  This is because the culture of Indonesia and Malaysia predates islam and is NOT ARABIC! This is also why in my country, Nigeria, many Muslims, though conservative, are not ultra-orthodox. Heck! the richest man in Africa is a Nigerian called Dangote and he is Muslim but he is no supporter of Sharia law, nor does he oppose capitalism, democracy, or secularism. Same with many Muslims here. We have our radicals and extremists but they are a loud minority.
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  23. @fahoodie1852  yes, I have read about the Suez battle and you are omitting a lot. Israel did fdik to capture the whole of Suez city twice and suffered more losses compared to Egypt but While Israel was defeated in the northern Suez area by failing to occupy Ismailia, the subsequently won in the South of Suez by defeating several Arab units of Egyptians, Palestinians etc and occupying Fayid Airport and areas of the Gulf of the Suez. The Israeli army was not routed or defeated as you claim in Ismailia just a division. So why are you trying to pretend otherwise?
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  24. Come to what? Israel still exists for more than half a century, has stable/good relations with more Arab neighbors, has a strong military and economy, while their enemies are increasingly losing militarily and politically😂😂😂
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  25. That's because with Christianity, our religion was never set up as a social and political tool, unlike Islam. it was once deemed sinful to practice usary or even have more representative governance in the west. Our religion also practiced debt slavery and never sanctioned things like liberalism, democracy, and women's suffrage. Christianity wisely reformed and made changes for social and religious betterment. Islam was on the path to making these changes but orthodox forces stopped them. This is a fundamental weakness Islam has (i.e. a religion created as a basis for political and social building that can never be separated) unlike Christianity where Church and state are separate.
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  26.  @jacklaurentius6130  really? Christendom and western reforms were unwise? Considering you are using technology and living in a stable and developed society borne of such reforms, I call you a hypocrite.
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  27. Pretty much.
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  28. @falconeshield  oh, I know. Poor Berbers had their entire culture undermined by Arrabs
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  29.  @lambert801  I know about those atrocities. I also know much of that was perpetuated by the declining and fascistic Ottoman empire. The Young Turks movement of Attarturk largely abhorred these evils. Plus, the early to mid periods of the Ottoman empire was the era where tolerance and progress was being made and espoused. That is what I refer to.
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  30. @fahoodie1852  also, I see you no longer want to lie about Israel not advancing to Egypt's capital 🤣
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  31.  @commonman9782  no, it won't. It would simply adapt like most other world religions tend to do. Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and others already adapted and are still strong religions. Islam clearly adapted in Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Armenia, Ethiopia etc. It is you Arabs and your culture that refuses to change or adapt and you are failing because of this socially, economically, and politically.
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  32.  @gray8091  religious dogma and fanaticism does not make sense with reality😔 If all you do is simply believe you will succeed because your faith and God said so, but you don't work to improve or develop, you will not win. Christianity and other religions learned this lesson and are succeeding. Even Turkey understood this when they reformed as an Islamic country and improved economically and socially and culturally. The rest of the Muslim world refuses to do this and keeps failing.
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  33. No, it's Arab culture. Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, even Muslim Balkans are more developed and have better economies a d cultures.
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  34. Agreed. That's why the only Muslim regions/countries that succeed, like Turkey, Indonesia, Oman and Southwest Nigeria, have cultures that reject the nonsense in Arabic Islam. They embrace modernity, entrepreneurship, education, tolerance, industry and others.
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  35. @silencerbear9347  thanks and God bless
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  36. @joking801  yes, you would. Based on history, you would like past caliphates and then immediately fall into infighting or lose to a more socially and economically and militarily developed society and culture😕
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  37. Respect to Israel from Nigeria 👍
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  38. @amrx78  did you read any of my other comments? I literally said they failed at Ismailia (you spelt it wrong) but succeeded in the southern areas of Suez City where they literally captured and held an airport, defeated several units sent after the and later crushed and encircled the Egyptian Third army. Both Egypt and Israel had wins and losses. So why are you acting as if none of this happened? I am still waiting for you to prove I am wrong about them being 100km from Cairo, considering that was one of the reasons Egypt used the USA to secure a ceasefire.
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  39. @lunarthicclipse8219  the Suez canal is 145km from Cairo😕 Also, Egypt had massive funding and weapons from the Soviets, Arab League and even China yet they still lost. Israel had their funds withheld by the USA until the war progressed further. Who was at a disadvantage here? Please, check if I'm lying 🤥
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  40. No. They should simply reform as Turkey did and as Christianity and the west did. They had their chance with Harun al-Rashid during the golden age but rejected his wise reforms 😔
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  41.  @fuzzley911  I agree with you. They don't need to abandon islam. They just need to do what most religions and societies on earth have already done: Reform religiously and culturally. Christianity and the west already did that. So did Hindu India and Buddhist Japan and East Asia. Islam and the middle east were on track to reform during their golden age but stupid regressive forces stopped these reforms with expected consequences.
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  42. So why are South Asia, East Asia and Southeast Asia not as bad as the middle East since they also had long periods of colonialism and invasions?😂😂😂
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  43.  @onworcheiodiakasen6018  oh, you're right. My mistake there. Sorry and thanks for the correction. They didn't extend into Benin and Igbo regions but they still did practice slavery and peoples from those two regions were among their captives but you are right that they didn't actually conquer those regions.
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  44.  @ishaqrahuya  I'm sorry but how exactly does someone watching whatifalthist prove them to be wrong about a statement? How about you actually saying what his comment gets wrong about Islam or the middle east?😕😕 Can you try that, my simple minded friend?
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  45.  @thanhhoangnguyen4754  This is because the culture of Indonesia and Malaysia predates islam and is NOT ARABIC! This is also why in my country, Nigeria, many Muslims, though conservative, are not ultra-orthodox. Heck! the richest man in Africa is a Nigerian called Dangote and he is Muslim but he is no supporter of Sharia law, nor does he oppose capitalism, democracy, or secularism. Same with many Muslims here. We have our radicals and extremists but they are a loud minority.
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  46.  @Klopp2543  Yeah, you are correct. Sorry. In other comment threads on this video, I actually do acknowledge this. I, especially, highlight how Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, Armenia and a few other non-Arab Muslim countries have better socioeconomic, political and cultural systems than the Arab world and how their forms of Islam are more moderate and reformed. I agree that the main issue is not one of Islam but of culture.
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  47.  @ShapurDD  yes, and that is why Christianity tends to embrace some level of secularism because we understood long ago that for society to advance properly, religion should be a strong guide for culture, economics, laws and politics instead of a dominating force, unlike Islam and the Arab world. Turkey clearly learned this wisdom too.
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  48.  @jacklaurentius6130  my words? You mean pointing out how Christian reforms were wisely done? Friend, you do realize that prior to social and religious reforms the Church did, stuff like debt slavery, chattel slavery, and low proliferation of science and innovation was sanctioned by ruling monarchs and social elites who used the church as their bulwark to suppress these things. It is thanks to more enlightened minds and their philosophy, in line with the tenets of traditional Christianity, in the church who made it possible for better reforms to come. I mean, you do know that the scientific method was created by Sir Francis Bacon (a devout Christian). The censorship from monarchies after th invention of Gutenberg's printing press was a failure partly due to the Church's earlier stance on promoting literacy among common folk via them reading the bible. Basically, Christianity came to a conclusion that God created the natural world and in order for us a his creations to be closer to him, we must study the natural world; something Islam rejected. So, again, how exactly did you infer from my comments that I believe Christianity hindered science or anything else?
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  49.  @Pakilla64  that's your best comeback? You could have easily made an African corruption joke🤣 Also, I noticed you didn't say I was wrong about Arabs and Islamic colonialism. Guess you agree 😊👍
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  50. And what happens when Saudi Arabia runs out of oil?
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