Comments by "Sebastian Nolte" (@sebastiannolte1201) on "Vox" channel.

  1. Do you really want to be so nitpicky because it is a bit oblate?
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  2. It acclerated from 17000 mph to 25000 mph. And force is mass multiplied by acceleration. So with the same force but half the mass, you have twice the acceleration.
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  3. U down wit O.P.P This here was made with an analoge camera in 1972, there was no photoshop or CGI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blue_Marble And the japanese GEO weather satellite Himawari 8 sends a live picture every ten minutes: https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/ But probably finao o is right, and you will say they are not real. So, why do you even ask? It makes no sense. You demand pictures from the earth, but you will say "fake" to all of them.
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  4. No, it doesn't. You really think that nobody ever noticed, that an eat coast to west coast trip through Australia takes as much time as a trip from Paris to Bejing?
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  5. Why are you so gullible? Why do you blindly believe claims like "There are no pictures of the earth" without questioning such a claims, without doing your own research? Japanese weather satellite Himawari 8 takes a live picture every ten minutes that you can see online The Deep Space Climate Observatory on the LaGrange point between sun and earth takes about ten pictures per day, you can choose a date in the past to see the pictures of that day.
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  6. Can you explain, how it makes sense on your "correct world map", that a flight from Sydney to Dallas takes 15h20min , but Sydney to Santiago de Chile only takes 12h20min? Can you tell me how long the antarctic icewall is?
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  7. How does that help? Haven't you seen the beginning? It is not possible to project the surface of the a sphere onto a 2D map without distortions or gaps. That is just a simple fact. It even has nothing to do with the question, if the earth is a sphere.
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  8.  @elmerfox6872  Can you tell me where that firmament is and do you have any evidence for its existence? The burdon of proof is on you.
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  9. He did not. But of course he already knew that earth is a sphere (it was common knowledge at that time) and so he thought that he could reach india by going west around the earth. But then There was America in the way.
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  10. "The findings, discoveries and proclamations of various explorers and expeditions have proof that the Common World Map is Wrong and a hoax. " All that brought us to the common map in the first place. It works. Thousands of people travel around the earth all the time. You really think we cannot find out the actual distance between two cities? That is ridiculous! "Admiral Richard Barth said there is a land without ice in Antarctica the size bigger than US, Mexico and Europe combine together. " a) His Name was Admiral Byrd. Wow, you guys don't even get the stuff that you parrot from somewhere correct... b) Please tell me the source where he said that. And I mean the actual source, not a Youtube video that just claims it c) So let me get this straight: you think that all the thousands of people who travel around are all liars, but that one guy tells the truth?
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  11. What? People had accurate globes in their homes before way before 1927. And how does NASA use the same?
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  12. Already the light of the sun is eight minutes old.
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  13. So this video started with a nice illustration that shows, that it is impossible to map the surface of a sphere on a 2D plane without distortion or gaps. And you still think it has to do with our ability to do it?
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  14. Hubble is made for looking far away, it is much to close to earth. And what do you expect to see? There are many satellites with the purpose of taking pictures of the earth, so why do you ask for pictures that are made by Hubble? That doesn't make any sense.
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  15. At which point do you disagree withe the big bang theory? Do you deny the observable red shift? As everything in science, it is not made up, but can be observed by everyone else, if you really want to. Or do you deny the expansion of the universe as an explanation for the red shift? Which better explanation do you have? Or do you accept that the universe is expanding, but you don't think that we can extrapolate the expansion to the past? I think it is most logical, that when something is expanding, that there was a moment in the past, where everything was in on point and then started to expand.
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  16. So you really think it is not possible to find out the actual distances between cities on the earth without seeing it from "outer space"? You don't believe that it is possible to create maps in the first place? How do you think maps were created in the last centuries?
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  17. Who is talking about space? I am just talking about a map of the surface of the earth. Do you really think it is impossible to sail along the antarctic ice wall to see, how long it is? Do you you really think it is impossible to find out, if the shortest distance between Sydney and Santiago de Chileactually is about 11,300km? Do you think that all airlines and pilots are part of the conspiracy and fly slower/faster/detours, so that the flight times matches with the distances? Thousands of people uses the official maps of the earth, obviosly they are correct. Do you have any evidence, that they are wrong?
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  18. First of all, your argument with the spinning is of course ridiculous. You deny the existence of Newtons first law of motion, although we experience it in every day life all the time. Imagine you are flying in a big transportation aircraft with 500mph. Now you draw in the back end of the plane a circle on the floor and write "Los Angeles" in it. And at the front of the plane you draw a circle on the floor and write "New York" into it. Now you have a drone or a little R/C-airplane. And you fly from "Los Angeles" to "New York", so inside the big aircraft, while it is flying with 500mph. Do you think it makes any difference if you fly from "LA" to "NY" or from "NY" to "LA"? No, of course not. It is completely irrelvent, if the big transportation airplane is flying at all. But I don't want to discuss about the spinning or anything else concerning the world view, just about the shape of the earth. And you still have absolutly no idea about the impact that wrong maps would have. If you come to a new city and you buy a city map, do you really think "Oh, I guess I just have to believe that the map is true, but I have no possibilty to find out if it actually looks like that"? I don't think so. Instead you can say "I am hungry, according to the map, there is one McDonalds when I go to left in 3km, and another one when I go to the right in only". And you can go there, and you can estimate how long you will walk. And you would notice if the left one would be closer than the right one - and then you would know that the map is wrong. And you can do it for all maps of course, not only for city maps, but for larger scales. I really wonder at which point flat earthers stop to say "This map is correct and we would find out if it was wrong" and start to say "We can only trust the authorities but we cannot find out if the map is true". It makes no sense to distinguish in that way. Take Google Earth and zoom so strong into it that you see streets in a city. So at this point you believe that it is correct, right? So now you zoom out. At which point to you think it suddenly become wrong? How should that work? You mention pilots, but what about the airlines? Who prevents you from working at an airline and come into the position where people decide, which routes they will offer? Who prevents you from starting an airline? Or a travel office that charters airplanes? What about all the logistic companies who run container ships all around the earth? What about all the private people who just travel the earth with ships and airplanes by themselves? What about the particpants of the Vendee Globe? Do the companies that sell maps of cities or countries think "I hope people will never actually use these maps, and just look at them instead"? No, that would be ridiculous. And in the same way it would be ridiculous to think that the "elites" presents us the globe and say "I hope they will never actually use the globe, because then they would notice, that it is not an actual model of the earth". But as flat earthers are religious fanatics (and that doesn't have do mean, that they really are religious in a typical way, "flat earth" itself can be the religion) it doesn't make sense to actually debate with them. They claim that they want to find out the truth. But that is wrong, they don't want the truth. Instead, they WANT that they earth is not a globe. They WANT that there is a big conspiracy. But the good thing is: We just have to wait. I really like it, that the FE community is grwowing, and I hope that they organize better. BEcause then they don't have an excuses for not doing actual research. So charter ships and airplanes and fly around the earth to find out, how it really looks. I am just waiting for a working flat earth map. Airlines, Logistic companies and travellers will be happy to see, that they did not use the shortest routes until now, because they uses the wrong maps all the time. Another good Idea is: How about debunking the system from the inside? How about go to a university and study aerospace engineering? According to flkat earthers, they would be the first one who actually would use the knowledge that you get there. They realyl think, that students there learn how rockets works, but all the students sit there and just think "Oh, interesting", but nobody actually wants to build rockets later. But I am afraid that they will not do it. They prefer to stay in the victim role, sit at home and say "They are all lying to us!!!"
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  19. The problem is, that it would look like this: http://www.boehmwanderkarten.de/kartographie/netze/world_globussegmente_009.jpg And actually the segment itself already are distorted, and for maximum accuracy you habe to make an infinite number of segments. There is no possibitly to to make a 2 D map of the surface of a sphere without distortion - or gaps.
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  20. Why is it annoying? Actually I wonder why a video like this is even neccessary. It is common sense that you cannot map the surface of a sphere on a map without gaps or distortion. That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth. And usually you learn it in geography in school. Oh, and the heliocentric theory was put on the shelf long ago. The sun is not the center of the universe (that is what the classical heliocentric model means). I never will undersatnd why flat earthers use heliocentric model as the opposite to "flat earth". You can also have a geocentric model with a globe. Actually that was the common model for centuries. Because people found out far earlier, that the earth probably is a sphere (it is quite easy to find that out) before they found out, that the earth and planets orbit around the sun (and not the other way around).
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  21. We have travelled the earth since centuries. That is why we know, how it looks.
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  22. But than you have gaps: http://www.boehmwanderkarten.de/kartographie/netze/world_globussegmente_006.jpg
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  23. If you use the universe as a reference, then there is no "up and down". If you use earth's gravitational field as reference, then it flows always down.
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  24. No, we would not. Look on the globe. The longitudes are not paralellel, they all intersect in the poles. So the squares are no squares.
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  25. When did NASA took pictures of the Mercator projection from space?
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  26. So you believe that the photo of 1972 is true? It was the first one. And as expected: You still say "nothing", although that is a lie. And you completely ignore Himawari 8.
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  27. And there is one thing, that you obviuosly don't understand: The Photo from 1972 was actually made by people, so by the astronauts in the Apollo spacecraft on their way to the moon. But since then, nobody has been so far away, that they could make a picture from the entire earth. In the LEO you are too close. The only possibilty are GEO satellites like Himawari 8, they are far enough away from earth.
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  28. I don't know, what you are talking about. There is no up and down in the universe. It is just a cultural thing, that usually north is up on maps, or that globes have the northpole at the top. "North could be south and south could be north. " - that doesn't make sense. It is like saying "America could be Europe and Europe could be America". "North" and "South are just names, that we have given to directions on the earth. They don't mean "up" and "down".
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  29. Because Alaska was the closest land.
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  30. What should it "prove"? It just shows, that it is impossible to map the surface of a sphere on a flat surface without gaps or distortions.
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  31. " No one has anything right. " Of course we have it right. People travel around the world for centuries. Do you really want to say, that nobody really knows the distance between two cities? Altough people travel between these cities all the time? "Research The Flat Earth, Vox It makes a lot more sense friend." No, it doesn't. Can you tell me how it makes sense on the "flat earth map", that a flight from Sydney to Los Angeles takes longer than a flight from Sydney to Santiago de Chile?
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  32.  @Faith5883  "We probably do know the distance between two cities." So you agree that the official distance, that I measure on a globe, are correct. Which means, that earth is a sphere. Period. It is that simple. "The flight patterns have been debunked by pilots that know the earth is flat. So I suggest you ask one those pilots. I am not one. " Bullshit. And why only pilots? How about logistic companies? Private travellers? The earth is at it is , open to everybody, has been travelled by anybody. The idea that there is some elite group that has other information is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. Because it cannot be hidden. "Does water find it's own level?" No, not without forces. Have you ever seen water in weightlessness, so in a zero-G plane? It forms a sphere. Gravity is the reason why it is parallel to the ground. "and the water would fly off a spinning earth.." Have you ever calculated the centrifugal force of the earth? Probably not, isntead you just blindly believe anything that you see in Flat earth videos. You don't do research, you don't make calculations, you don't think for yourself. You learn how to calculatue centrifugal forces in middle school. Or just look it up online. I have done that. It is extremly low. At the equator a 100 kg Object just becomes about 300 g "lighter" because of the rotation of the earth (I would not use the word "spinning"; because one rotation within 24 hours is very slow). Or another comparison: The centrifugal force at the equator is so low, as you would drive with 100 km/h in a car on a circular race track that hass an diameter of 44 km. "that is also spinning around the sun, jetting through space at unimaginable speeds. " Yes, so? You know that we cannot feel speed, and that we cannot even measure absolute speed? "e have NO photos at all of the "globe" none." You just blidnly believe all the lies in Flat earth videos, e.g. that there are no photos. Of course there are. Thousands. And we get more all the time, because e.g. the japanese weather satellite Himawari 8 sends a photo of the earth every ten minutes. But you just believe the lie, that all photos are fake, without any evidence. "So there is no proof at all that it is a ball except to take the word of the liars at NASA." Bullshit. People know the earth is a sphere since more than 2000 years. We had accurate globes (so that looks more or less like modern ones) in our living rooms, already decades before NASA has shown us the first photo of the earth from space. How do you come to the absurd idea, that we need to see earth from high above, to kno how it looks like? Do you need to see a city from high above, if you want to create a city map? No. So why do you think, that you need to see the earth from high above, when you want to create a world map? Watch a sunset at the beach. What you see there only works on a globe. But you are so indoctrinated by Flat Earth videos, that you really would describe it as "The sun moves away, and finally it is so far away that we cannot see it anymore". Although that is completly against your own senses. But you don't trust them, instead you believe in Youtube videos. "I am sure you are a really nice person and I am sorry to sound... not so nice," I just wanted to write exactly the same :-) "not so nice, but I have researched this now since 2014... in 2015 I had to concede to the earth not being a ball. " Watching youtube videos is not "research". The problem is, that you guys always say "Research flat earth" - but I recommend you to research globe earth. And haven't you noticed, that all flat earthers started in that time? You just follow a trend! Imagine somebody would have just tell you, that earth is not a sphere, and that you should just think about it and do research. But there were no Flat earth videos and websites. Be honest: Which would be your arguments in that case? Which ideas would come actually from yourself, so by your own research and thinking? Can you tell me at least one argument, that I don't find in Eric Dubays "200 proofs"? Or the other way around: Is there at least one thing in his "proofs", where you say, that he is completly wrong there, or that he is lying in that point? I just don't find original flat earthers with own ideas and with actual critical thinking. I always just hear "Water always find its level... there is no gravity, but only density and buoyancy... there are no real photos of the earth from space... bubbles in space... the Antarctic treaty prevents people from going to Antarctica.... Sunset/Polaris/... is all exlaines by perspective....". Flat earthers just parrot what they see in youtube videos, they don't question it, the don't validate it, they don't calculate things,...
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  33. "No size or shape distortion." That is not really correct. It just has less size distortion. The first step is to convert the sphere into a icosahedron, so there you project a domed surface onto a flat plane.
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  34. Over Russia? LA to Toyko is over the Pacific. However, you probably mean that flights seems to make an unneccessary curve to the north. And yes, the video shows you that these maps are "wrong". In reality (so on a globe) it is the shortest way. Just take a globe and span a thread from Los Angeles to Tokyo. Or use the modern version: Go to google maps, click with the right mouse button on Los Angeles and choose "Measure distance". Then click on Toyko. Google shows you a straight line (so the shortest way) from LA to Toyko. Meanwhile Google Maps can switch between Globe and Mercator projection, there is a button on the right. You see, that it is a straight line on the globe, so actually the shortest way. But in the Mercator projection it seems that it makes a curve to the north.
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  35. Imagine you have a telescope with a camera to take pictures of the moon or very far object. You go outside to your veranda, so just a few steps away from the door, with the house immediatly behin you. Would you now really think that you can just turn taht telescope to take pictures from your house? Probably not. Then why do you think that a telescope, that is close to earth and made for looking far away, should take pictures of the earth? Espeically when there are many other satellites that are made for taking pictures of the earth.
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  36. Haha, of course... Nobody noticed that an east-west trip through Australia is nearly four times the length of a north-south trip... makes sense...
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  37. It is just another projection. Why do so many people here in the comment think that it is better than Mercator? Especially it is so obviously not correct when you see the shape of Australia for example.
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  38. So you think that the distance Cairo - Cape Town is equal to the distance Perth - Brisbane?
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  39. It is not possible to project the surface of a sphere onto a 2D map without gaps or distortions. Period. That is just a simple fact. It has absolutly nothing to do with how advanced or intelligent we are. It is also nothing to do with the question, if the earth is a sphere or not.
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  40. No, it is an important information. I am only surprised that it seems new to so many people here , you should learn that in geography in school. And actually, when your visual thinking is not that bad, it is just logical, that it is not possible to map the surface of a sphere on a 2D-map without gaps or distortion. This all has nothing to do with time periods, technology, or accuracy. And you have to care. Many flat earthers don't understand it. As an argument they use a case of a flight from Manila to Los Angeles, that made an emergency landing in Alaska. And they say, that on the "Globe Map" (they mean a Mercator projection) it would not make sense, while on the "flat earth map" (they mean a polar azimuthal equidistant projection) it makes sense. But actually Alaska is the closest land when you are in the middle of the ocean between Manila and L.A. Also many "non-flat earthers" wonder, why airplanes seem to make a curve to the north, so e.g. that Los Angeles - London flies over Greenland. And then some say, that it is for security reasons, so that they don't want to fly to long over open water. But that is wrong. The direct connection from Los Angeles to London is actually over Greenland. On the Mercator projection you get the impression, that when to cities are on the same latitude, the shortest way would be along the latitude. But that is wrong (expect for the equator).
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  41. John Jordan: You are correct, we feel the change of motion, but: 1. The earth rotates with 1000mph continuosly. So no change in speed. 2. It rotates, so yes, there is a change of direction. So there is a centrifugal force, that we can measure and feel. But first, it is weak, just 3.3 N for a 100kg person. And second, it is just opposed to gravity. So it just reduces the earth's pull force. If you would live your whole life in an elevator, that accelerates continiosly with 0.1G up, then you wouldn't know, that you are in an accelerating elevator. Because then you think, that 1.1G is the normal earth's pull instead of 1G. BTW, do you have anyting to say to my last comment about nthe NY-LA-flight and the maps?
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  42. The probabilty, that we are being visited, is as low ahs tha probabilty, that we are alone. Also aliens cannot change physics.
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  43. You would see the earth in the past if that is what you want to hear. But still it doesn't make sense to do that. Just put the camera close. You cannot travel faster than light. So you will never look earlier than the moment you hit the road to bring the mirror.
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  44. Well, I see many people here who really didn't know this. So unfortunatly this video makes sense, although you should have learned this in geography class.
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  45.  @fpvangel4495  Congratiulations, you actually described "Orbit". The reason, why the astronauts in the ISS are weightless, is not that there is no gravity (Gravitational pull at that altitude ist still nearly 90 %). Instead it is the same effect as in the Zero-G plane. You can say, that the ISS is in a constant state of free fall, but "around the earth". Read the Wikipedia article "Newton's cannonball" for the basic idea.
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  46. I don't see the connection here. So instead of a map you want to use e.g. a tablet with google earth on it? Maps on paper are still nice. Or even 2D Maps on a screen. While I have to admit, that because of GPS Navigation, we don't need certain maps for example to travel across the see anymore.
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  47. It is explained in the video. And it is not in every single map.
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  48. You mean Gall Peters? Of course they are distorted, too.
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  49. Actually it is easy. The earth is a sphere. So the only true "map" is a globe. Because it is not possible to bring the surface of sphere in two dimensions without gaps or distortions. That is a simple fact, that is demosntrated at the beginning when he cuts the ball.. You also can peel an orange and try to make a two dimensional, gapless flat sheet with the skin of the orange. It doesn't work. Or the other way around: You have a piece of paper and a ball. The paper is big enough, that it could cover the entire ball. Now try to glue the paper on the surface of the ball, completly- but without cutting anything out of the paper and without folds. It will not work. But todimensional maps are more handy than a globe. So there are different methods of projecting the surface of the earth to a 2D-map. And it depends on your purpose, which one is the most practical. And as the earth is so big, the distortion on smaller parts of the earth's surface is not that big. So for a city map for example you can more or less ignore that the earth is a sphere and the distortions. It is mainly a problem when you want to have a map of an entire continent or of course the entire earth.
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  50. "Tons" is a unit for mass, not for energy. So I really was irritated when the narrator says that the "impact energy would be 100 kilotons" I I wondered, what you mean with it. But then when you compared it to the Castle Bravo Bomb, I knew what you it. is "TNT equivalent". So that means, that the energy of the caste bravo bomb was as big, as an explosion of 15 megatons of TNT. But you never say that, you alwas say just "kilotons" but never "kilotons of TNT".
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