Comments by "Sebastian Nolte" (@sebastiannolte1201) on "carwow" channel.

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  2. "So they hydrogen would be extracted from it." And that takes engery. At least (in practise far more) energy, as you will get from it, when you "burn" it (in hot fire or in a fuel cell). "It’s already being developed in Japan. " I am quite sure it is not :-) "Why would it run endlessly if fuelled by water and not hydrogen? " Water is coming out of the exhaust of a hydrogen car. It is the result of the reacton of hydrogen with oxygen. If the car would run with water, then you could connect the exhaust with the fuel door :-) When you could just "extract" the "H" of "H2O", then you also could just "extract" the "C" from "CO2" and we would not have an any climate change problems. In ICE cars (or any other form of organic energy generation; also in your body when you eat something) your fuel is Carbon (C). In different forms: Gasoline, Diesel, Kerosine,... but also coal, wood, oil etc. You get the energy by burning it. Burning means: Oxidation. So Carbon and Oxygen combines to carbondioxide (CO2) and emit energy. You can also use Hydrogen (H) as a fuel. Also in an ICE car. So you can "burn" it. Hydrogen and Oxygen combines to Water (H2O) and emot energy. The better and more efficient usage in a car is not an ICE engine, but instead a fuel cell. In a fuel cell, Hydrogen and Oxygen combines to Water and emit electric energy. And with that electric energy you can run the electric motor in the car. But where do you get the Hydrogen from from? You have to generate it. At the moment most hydrogen comes from natural gas. A better enviromental friendly for the future is, to generate it from water with electrolysis by using green electricity. So electricity splits the Water into Hydrogen and Oxygen. And as we all no, there is no perpeetum mobile. So you need at least as much electricity to split the Water, as you cen generate in the fuel cell later. The efficiency of the whole process (so from the electrolyis of the water up to the electric generation in the fuel cell inj the car) is quite bad. That means, that the "electricity consumption" per mile of a Hydrogen car is higher than from a battery car.
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  3. " Tesla S 350~400 miles per charge, where as Porsche gets about half that (230 miles at the most)" Where do you have these numbers from? Here an actual test on the road . Taycan 4S vs Model S at 120 km/h (75 mph): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK0oC83y4L8&t=1311s Taycan: 376 km (233 miles) Model S: 424 km (263 miles) " plus Tesla has way more battery charging stations than Porsche will ever dream of. " We don't want charging station from certain companies (how stupid would it be, if for example Ford would run their own gas stations and you can fuel your Ford only and Ford gas stations and no other cars could fuel their cars at Ford gas station). Let's all use CCS. Here in Europe there are much more CCS chargers than Tesla superchargers (well, OK, in Europe Tesla also changed to CCS, so actually Tesla can charge at all the CCS stations plus the superchargers) "On top of that, AI in Tesla is just beyond what Porsche is capable of...the amount of data that Tesla has collected over the decade cannot be ignored " Tesla fans focused so much on this self driving thing. What if others don't care? We are talking about Porsche here! You buy a Porsche because YOU want to drive it. The driving experience is the reason why you buy a Porsche. And you ignore here, that the Taycan is superior in that field. "Cheetah stance will get 2.3 sec from 0-60, which is the fastest production car in the world as of 2020." So you just use the paper numbers, while you see here a video where the Cheetah loses against the Taycan? And even if the Model S actually would have the slowest 0-60 mph time of all production cars in the world also in every real life test: Who says that the 0-60 time defines the "fastest car in the world"? How about 0- 120 mph?
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  9. Always the same Tesla.Fanboy-Bullshit... - What's up with this stupid emphasis on "Family Sedan"? Family Sedans have more than 700 hp and make 0-60 in less than 3 seconds? The Mercedes AMG E63S T is a "family Station wagon" and still beats other "dedicated race cars", even by Mercedes itself. But if it loses narrowly in a drag race agains a sport car, I have never read that Mercedes fans complain "That is not fair, the Mercedes is a Family station wagon..." When you see drag races on youtube, you always see cars from different classes, but nobody complains. - The Taycan is definitly not a "dedicated race car", maybe a "dedicated sports car". But if it is really that: Why does it have four doors? Why does it have decent space on the back seats? They even left gaps in the battery where the rearseat passangers have their feet, so that they can sit more comfortable. So they actually decided to have a smaller battery (so less range), so that people in the back can sit better - in a "dedicated race car"? - let's imagine there will be a drag race between the new Roadsterand the Tayca, and the Roadster win. Do you know what I would say then? "That race is a 'misalliance' - different car classes: The Taycan is a four-door sports-sedan, the Roadster is a dedicated race car" - let's imagine there is an overall review between Roadster and Taycan, and the Taycan wins at least in certain categories, because the space and entrance to the back seat is better. I am afraid you are the first one who will complain "That is not a fair comparison, the Roadster is a two-doors-sportscar, so of course it is worse in that then the Taycan, which is a sedan". You just decide that comparison s are bad if Tesla loses! - Oh, and BTW: Which Roadster? Since the first Races on youtube with the Taycan, you guys always mention "Not fair, comapre it with the Roadster... " There is no Roadster! It will come to the market maybe in 2022. Why do you guys act like it already exists as a production car? Both Model S and Taycan - have about the same size - are four door sedans - are electric - have two mtoros - have similar power and acceleration numbers on paper - the Model S even have thing like "ludicrous mode" and focuses massivly on this low 0-60 mph numbers. So if this was a race on a track I maybe could more accept this "Taycan is a sports car, Model S a sedan, that doesn't match" argument. But not when it comes to a drag race! So how can you say it is "misalliance"? Even if the Roadster would exist I don't see, that the Roadster is definitly the better fitting competitor. Yes, the Taycan was developed more as sportscar, so with a different focus than the Model S. But that still doesn't mean, that a drag race between Model S and Taycan is a "misalliance".
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  12. "This is another wrong comparison ......" Another stupid "wrong comparison" comment. This is just a drag race, not a "what is the better car" comparison. "when you will see a Taycan as a taxi just let us know !!!" Why is that an argument? Here is a drag race between Germany's most used Taxi (Mercedes E-class) and a Porsche 911: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhKyb6hXzb0 The "Taxi" wins. Not a suprise, it has much more horsepower (also on paper it is faster from 0-60). Why should it be relevant for a drag race if a car is "sports car" or a "family sedan" (BTW you get the Mercedes E63S also as a station wagon)? "I understand you have to create trafic on your channel" Have you seen the other drag races on this channel? There are for example (just: on the first screen, I did not scroll very far) - Lamborghini Aventador vs Audi RS7 (an exotic supercar vs a sedan) - Mercedes G63 vs Mercedes A45 (a offrad car vs a compact hatchback) - Audi R8 vs Audi RQ8 (a two door sports car vs a SUV) But I don't find that many whiny "That is an unfair comparison" on those videos - while the comment section here is full of it. "but its a shame to compare these cars just because they are electrics" They are not just both electric. That would be an argument if it be for example a Taycan vs a Renault Zoe. But these cars are: - Both electric - Both have two motors - Both have similar power (the Tesla even more!) - Both have a similar size - Both have four doors an descent space on the back seats Sorry, but how similar should a car be to the other so that you would not complain? This is as close as you can get. Or are you even one of the guys who say "Better compare it with the Roadster"? If that happens and the Porsche loses I could say "That is not fair, the Roadster is a two door sports car, the Porsche is a sedan, not the same family"! What if the Model S Plaid Version comes and wins? Suddenly it is fine? There were so many drag races between the Model S and other cars, also super sports cars, and nobody complained. But now when the Model S loses for the first time, it is suddenly an unfair comparison? That is ridiculous. When it would be a race on the track I maybe could understand it a bit more. But not on a drag race, here you mainly need power, not a good steering, handling, roadholding etc. And the Model S is optimized for drag races! For Tesla, perfomance is only "0-60". Everybody talks about it, there are funny reaction videos of people who sit in the Tesla when it accelerates. There are all these fancy "Insane mode" and "Ludicrous" updates, that are all about better accleration. So if there is one thing where the Model S has an superior Perfomance, it is a drag race. And now when it loses people really say "It is unfair, the Model S is a family sedan, the Taycan is a sports car"? As I said, that is ridiculous. "they are not on same family ....." Just because the Taycan is more focused on sportiness and driving? That is also the case when you compare a Porsche Panamera with a Mercedes S-class. So?
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  27. "Wouldn't it be weird if the 35% more expensive sports car din't win over the familie car ? " No. Why should a "sports car" always be quicker than a "family car" in a drag race? Here is also a sports car that loses against a family car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhKyb6hXzb0 Which is not a surprise, the family car has much more horse power than the sports car, and also on paper it has a lower 0-60 time. Oh, and the family car is als cheaper here. Why should the more expensive car always be faster in a drag race? Porsches price politics were always high, you also pay for options much. The turbo S here is ridiculously more expensive than the entry version of the Taycan, the 4S (here in Germany: 103,800 € vs 181,600 €). It also includes things like the ceramic brakes, that doesn't help on the drag strip, but are an 9,500 € option for the entry version. The Turbo S also has rear wheel steering (not included in the entry version) - the Model S doesn't have it. And doesn't give you a better result on the drag strip. I just have configured a Taycan. So it starts as the "Taycan 4S" for 103.800 €. I packed it with options and I came to 175,000 €! And none of the options increases the perfomance, so it still would be not faster than the 103,800 € version! There are cars like the Dodge Demon that are not that expensive but the fastest on the drag strip. In general you often get much power for little money when you buy an America car. When you buy a Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren,... you pay for more than just for a low quater-mile-time. "Also given that Tesla already have a faster model out yet " Which one?
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  34. "The very fact that this video compares a costly race car, the Taycan Turbo S, " It is not a race car, it is a sports car. And it has four doors and decenst room in the back (whcih "race car" has that) and it starts at already 105,000 € (The Turbo S costs 185,000 €; option prices for German cars are often insane) " with a family-man car which was not even built for racing" But for acceleration "Tesla Model S, where quick acceleration is just a by product that most family men don’t even use/want, " Sorry, but that is bullshit! Why should anybody buy the Perfomance version instead of the Long Range version, who don't even want or use it? Tesla always focused on low 0-60s times. Tesla drivers like show off and made funny reaction videos because of the accerelration. Tesla always brought the software updates with "insane mode", "ludicrous mode", now "cheetah stance" and they are all about acceleration. There were so many drag races with the Tesla. All the perfomance of Tesla is optimzied for exactly that discipline. "Add to that 400 miles range, vs 190 something for Taycan. " Where do you have these numbers from? Or do you really take the EPA numbers, although everybody should know meanwhile, that in reality the Taycan is not much worse than the Tesla, especially at higher speeds (and actually only there it is important, who cares about city range)? Here an actual real life test of the Model S Perfomance and the Taycan 4S on german autobahn at 75 mph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK0oC83y4L8&t=1312s Tesla: 263 miles Porsche: 233 miles "Basically all the energy they used in accelerating and beating Tesla’s bench mark, just to win by a marginal difference." No, they don't put all the engery in beating Tesla in such a drag race. Actually Drag racing are a very American thing, here in Germany nobody really cares, and cars like the Dodge Demon are completly weird and pointless to us. However, yes, the Porsche wants to be a real Porsche, so a good sports car. That is much more then a drag race. Everybody who drives Taycan is excited about it, also "Tesla-Fans" like Ben Sullivan said, that it is the best driving electric car (or car in General) out there. It feels great, is fun, and a real Porsche.
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  42. " I see these type of comparisons all over the internet/YouTube! " And I see these "not fair comparison, the Tesla is a family sedan, Taycan a sports car" comments all over the comment section here. And it is stupid. Have you seen the last other drag races here on the channel? - Lamborghini Aventador vs Audi RS7 (exoctic supercar vs (sports/luxury/tell me!)-sedan) - Mercedes-AMG G63 vs Mercedes-AMG A45 (offroad vehicle vs compact hatchback) - Audi R8 vs Audi RS Q8 (sportscar vs SUV) And you really think that a "sports sedan" should not be compared with a "luxury sedan"? Although those car are really similar and the definitions are completly vague? And more important: This is not a track race, it is a drag race! On a track I maybe could understand a bit more your problem, but not on a drag strip. You don't need a sports car to be good, you just need power. Do you think that a Mercedes E-class, BMW 5 series or Audi A6 are luxury sedans? Are the station wagon versions of it even "Family wagons"? Well, there are famous high perfomance version of them (BMW M5, Merceds-AMG E63, Audi RS6). And they have more power than many sportscars. And so they are faster in drag races, for example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhKyb6hXzb0 Do you really think it is a problem that a Luxury Sedan (there is also a station wagon version, that is probably not much slower) beats a sportscar - and not just a random sportscar but the Porsche 911, which is for many people the best sports car in the world? No! Why should it? The Mercedes has 611 HP, the Porsche only 450 HP. Of course the Mercedes is quicker, do you think that Porsche can do magic and overcome physics, just because their vehicle is classified as a "sports car"? Next year Tesla will bring the Plaid Version of the Model S, with three motors, 1100 HP, an estimated 0-60 times of less than 2 seconds, and a quarter mile time of less than 9 seconds. When that car wins a drag race against a hypercar, you still would say "And it is not even a sportscar, but a luxury sedan"? A low quarter mile time doesn't say much about the abilites of a car, so if it is really a sports car. But drag races are the thing that Tesla and the Tesla fans always focus on! Since Tesla, only 0-60 seem to matter as an aspect for "perfomance". It is Tesla and the Tesla fans who make funny "reaction" videos of people who experiences the acceleration of a Tesla the first time. It is Tesla who increased the 0-60 perfomance over the years, with all these "insane", "ludicrous" and now "cheetah updates". It was always about the acceleration! The Tesla is optimized for the drag race, they did everything so that it is good in 0-60 or drag race! But now when it loses people say "Well, it is a family sedan/luxury sedan, not a sports car..." Sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. "Vídeos that compare a luxury sedan with a sport sedan." Oh, a luxury sedan? Others here say it is a family sedan. Now what is its? And does it even matter? And what is luxury, how is the Taycan less luxurious? "Tesla was made for luxury" Really? People say that the interior noise is quite high, the quality not that high,... so not really "luxury". It is just a big electric car. " and a by product of their superior technological advancements they happen to have a fast luxury sedan." And because of the buy product they offer the perfomance version (although the normal version is fast enough)? "Take the Tesla on a road trip with the Tycan and see how they fair in that respects!" Then the Tesla has a longer range. And Taycan fans will say "That is an unfair comparison, the Taycan is not made road trips, but for the track?" So what is even a fair comparison? You would only compare cars that are exactly the same?
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  50.  @irlcomplex  Disclaimer: I am German, so sorry if I use terms like "gear" , "speed", transmission", "shift"... not always in the correct way, I guess you still always know what I mean :-) and maybe it was a misconception from the beginning, because with "There are no gears in them" you maybe meant something else. However, electric motors have maximum tourque from the beginning. So unlike ICE cars, electric cars don't NEED a gearbox with several speeds. But that doesn't mean, that you cannot build an electric car with several gears. It still can have advantages. Actually in the Formula E they use even five speed transmissions. When it comes to street legal cars, the Rimac Concept one (relresed in 2013) also have two speeds on the one axis. You can stay in one gear all the time if you like. But you reach the maximum acceleration only in the one gear, and the maximum top speed only in the other gear. The Porsche Taycan also doesn't have one fixed transmission like most electric cars, instead at a certain speed it shifts into the second speed at a certain speed. Becuase of that it is faster and also more efficent and higher speeds. The Taycan was critizised for bad effiency in the EPA tests, but actually it is not that bad when you are faster than 60 mph. It is optimized for higher speeds. Here some articles about it: https://www.wired.com/story/electric-car-two-speed-transmission-gearbox/ https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a30379498/porsche-taycan-two-speed-transmission-explained/ Actually Tesla also originally thought about a two-speed-gearbox for the Model S. But then they cancelled it and prefere a simpler design with less stuff that could broke.
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