Comments by "geodkyt" (@geodkyt) on "Danish Madsen-Saetter GPMG at the Range" video.

  1. I really think that, had they been able to bring this to market in, say, 1952, it would have picked up enough to achieve the market pemetrarion of, say, the BM59, AAT-52, Sig MGs or the Ultimax- not hugely adopted, but at least well enough known that folks would go, "Oh, I've heard of that one!" instead of being a gunny Trivial Pursuit question like it is.
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  2.  @egomania2792  Under US law, because of changes made to the 1934 National Firearms Act (which regulates machineguns, silencers, "sawed off" - i.e. "Short Barrelled" - rifles and shotguns, etc.) in 1968 and 1986, there are two categories of what are called "Dealer's Samples" On 1 December 1968, the importation of items regulated under the NFA became restricted to importation only for police or government sales (or re-export). Because licensed NFA dealers (i.e., "machinegun dealers") have a need to be able to demonstrate MGs they might want to sell to these police or mikitary organizations, they could still import, buy and sell these as "dealer's samples". Note that this only applies to guns imported after the 1 December date in the 1968 GCA - guns imported before the ban are grandfathered and can be transferred to private individuals just like they were domestically produced. Now, because of the way the import ban is worded, they only need to be a licensed NFA dealer, manufacturer, or importer in order to acquire these guns - if a "sole proprietor" (i.e., not a corporate entity) NFA dealer buys one, and then later gets out of the business, he can keep these "dealer samples" (however, they can only be transferred to a current NFA dealer/manufacturer/importer if the owner dies or just wants to sell it). While this category was just called "dealer samples" after 1986, people started calling these guns "pre-May" samples because... 2. The 1986 FOPA (intended to stop a plethora of long standing violations and abuses of US citizens by the ATF) had a poison pill added that froze the US civilian MG supply. It made it illegal for a private citizen (except licensed NFA dealers, etc.) to own any MG (imported or not) that had not been registered for private citizens to possess prior to 19 May 1986. Again, the whole "dealer sample" exemption exists (and for the same reason as the 1968 law), but the wording of the new law (specifically section 922(o) FOPA added to the NFA) means they cannot retain these dealer samples when they leave the business and surrender their license. So, there were now TWO categories of "dealer samples" - NFA items (MGs or not) that were imported between December 1968 and May 1986, and MGs made or imported after 19 May 1986. This meant there needed to be a differentiation people could use when discussing the various categories a particular NFA gun falls under. So... 1. Transferrable means NFA items (machineguns, silencers, cannons etc.) that a private individual can legally buy (if they do the right paperwork and aren't legally prohibited from owning guns at all). Transferrable MGs are ridiculously expensive because any law abiding citizen 21 years old or older can buy one unless the state they live in prohibits it. 2. Pre-May samples - any NFA item (except MGs) that was imported after 1 December 1968 and any MG that was imported after 1 December 1968 but before the May 1986 cutoff date. Pre-May guns are generally almost as pricey as transferrables, because you can buy one as a NFA dealer, but keep it for life even after going out of business. It's *your personal gun*, even though you are restricted as to who you can sell it give it to. 3. Post-May samples are MGs made or imported after 19 Mayb1986 by people or corporations licensed to do business in NFA stuff. Since you can only keep one *while licensed to do NFA business*, the price of these is oretty.much what you'd expect them to be if there was NO NFA in place restricting supplies - a full auto version of something costs about what a semiauto version of the same thing would cost, because the market isn't horribly distorted by the law.
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  3. More obscure. And as well as I recall the Jatimatic, until a few years ago I not only never knew how limited production actually was, I honestly only knew it from two places - a single Soldier of Fiction article from the 1980s and the final act of the original Red Dawn. (For that matter, I only knew of the HAC7 from a single SOF article, and I honestly thought it had actually had limited success even if it didn't really take, rather than less than 400 being made in about a year and a half and thus not really counting as truly "in production".)
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