Comments by "Golden Croc" (@GoldenCroc) on "Styxhexenhammer666"
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@seinfan9 You, and many others are woefully naive when it comes to this. Realise 90%+ of all people dont have any conception of your "objective good/evil" at all. Scientific experiments and general world history throughout the ages have shown as much. For most people, "moral relativism" is all that exist, and you calling it evil wont change that. They will do what their leader tell them, thats all there is to it.
I have not said I agree with such things, and I am sad thats all most humans are, but you and other would be well advised to keep this in mind, and adjust your mindset accordingly. You can scream all you want about how the ones lining you up in front of the firing squad are "evil", "hypocrites" and so on, and many have thoughout history. It matters not at all, unless you are counting on some kind of divine intervention.
Admitting the truth is the first step. Then you can plan ahead accordingly.
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@Haris1 1 and 2: Yep aware of that too, and there are many foibles depending on country, but as a general rule for the purposes of keeping theses posts relatively short, the "must have above 50% to be safe" is close enough.
If it wasnt clear enough, I am not from the UK, but another european country. I have heard the same/similar-ish "excuses to the "we were never asked" for decades now in my native language.
I have sadly, you might say, grown a bit cynical of the publics ability to do more than talk, no matter what country.
Sweeping changes are led from the top, is my conclusion from studying history and pragmatics of every country I have come across...UK is seemingly in no way different.
Just look at the OP, which is presumably on the "dissident" side, yet has no ability to realise how the political system of his country even works, never mind what to do about it. Theres just too few of "us" with true insights vs them and their resources to hope for the public changing their voting patterns enough.... such is my conclusion, sorry to say.
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@seinfan9 Yes it is my line of thinking, as well as most peoples (on a less aware level). That doesnt mean I agree with the consequences, is that so hard to understand? You are reading my comments like the devil reads the bible. As I have repetedly stated, I am not arguing for anything of the sort, I am saying you have to come to terms with most people being wholly uninterested in your worldview when push comes to shove.
Are you interested in finding solutions to this predicament (the things you call evil) or not? If you are, then acknowledging the mindset of most people would seem to be essential. The train that carries your worldview have already left the station in the west. Now, how are you going to get it back on a societywide scale? These are surely much more interesting questions than simply proclaiming something is evil and leaving it at that? No one is impressed, it influences no one and makes no difference in the end. Engage yourself and others and accumulate power to make the 90% of "followers" most people are bend to your will and morality, that is what will make a difference in the end. Otherwise, you will get steamrolled, just as those with your worldview have been for decades already. Your choice.
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