Comments by "ElevenB" (@elevenb6967) on "Task & Purpose"
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1. That's adorable. You guys are your own biggest fans. I find it awesome, that you guys, with so little (which is pure, unadulterated bull$hit), can kick the whole world's ass all by yourselves. Outstanding.
2. "Legally limited to the size of a corps"? By whose authority? I never saw that law. Is it in the Constitution?
3. Embassies, and Consulates....So, basically, you're a security detachment. In TOTAL, there are roughly 1800 of you standing a post. Do you expect us to believe that, if a country's military decides to run buckshot over an embassy, a few of you hard charging security guards, because of your omnipotence, can quell them? Man, you guys MUST be badasses!
Absolutely hilarious!!!
4. Awww...That's cute. I LOVE your "legal" jargon. LEGALLY defined as a force-in-readiness? The legislative branch of the United States government mandated this?? This is news to me. I'll have to look that up. (Although, I know it's a waste of my time, but..........Okay, I'm back. And, as I expected, you're full of $hit!)
I suggest you have your Commandant update the obligatory schpeel your DI's force-feed you in boot. The very last time Congress declared war, was some 80 odd years ago, in WWII. And THAT means, Korea, Nam, Grenada, Iraq, and Afghanistan, required NO congressional declaration. The first boots on the ground to FIGHT, back in OIR, was the ARMY'S 3ID.
Also, the Marines weren't the ONLY force in Grenada, champ. (Ask me how I know this. I know you'll love the answer!)
5. This is the exact equivalent of Army bases on foreign soil. It's called tactical readiness, in the event the $hit hits the fan. You're part of the NAVY. So, of COURSE it makes sense for some of you to be on ships. Duh. But, don't mistake that to be some badassery, that only THEY can be called upon to exercise. You CLEARLY have NO IDEA about the Army, and are just trumpeting more MC propaganda crap.
6. Holy $hit, this was dumb! CROSS TRAINING?? LMFAO!!! What special training does it require, to ride on a boat, and disembark said boat, when you get to the beachhead? You realize what you are, when you land on the beachhead, right??? You're INFANTRY. How you get there, is completely irrelevant. Oh, and I LOVED THIS:
"In general, the regular USMC forces are more adaptable than regular Army forces, as the later tend to specialize more in a certain aspect of combat, while the USMC is more Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none."
I see. So, is what you're telling me is, that quartermasters, network admins, spoons, and JAG personnel, can fly jets, like officers, and warrant officers? I had no IDEA you guys were so complete. My friend was an 0311. I'll have to ask him how he liked flying fighter jets. LOL!! Who knew that rappelling off of birds, and running off of boats made you more formidable.
I have tears in my eyes, I'm laughing so hard!! Best laugh I've had all year!
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@whodat9198 Dude, you're getting sillier with each subsequent post. I love how you guys put all of your eggs in basic rifle qual, and brag about how you shoot 200 yards farther. That's cute. What you ALWAYS seem to fail to mention, is that you can still qualify expert, even if you come nowhere NEAR hitting that 500 yard target. (And this is info I got from a friend of mine, who was an 0311. So, before even attempt to refute me, save your keystrokes!) In today's wars, who engages tangos at that distance regularly?? Also, you do NOT run twice as far on your PFT. You run 3 miles, we run 2. I'm no math genius by ANY stretch. But, even BASIC math tells me that that's not twice as far! Man, get real!! And please stop with the Jessica Lynch shit. She was NOT 11x! Good lord!
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The 1st ID, 3rd ID, 4th ID, 82nd ABD, 25th ID, 101st ABD, 10th MTN, 507th PIR, 25th ID, 2nd ID, 1st CAV and the 75th RR all vehemently disagree with you.
But, hey.....Whatever helps you sleep at night. 😃
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You need to stop this craziness, man. You guys are hilarious. You really think being more aggressive will be all that it takes to win?
I mean, a Chihuahua is 'more aggressive' than a Rottweiler. But, which one would YOU rather have attack you?
Also, I've got a newsflash for you. Different branches are.....well.....different. Not exactly an epiphany, is it?
But, don't get it twisted, bro. Infantry to infantry, the differences between the army and the marines are negligible.
But, okay....Why don't you tell me, in terms of the branches' respective infantries, what makes the marine corps better? Be specific. And don't talk about aggressiveness, because that's definitely NOT endemic to the branch.
I'll wait.....
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Are you even serious right now?
Please go to The History Channel, and even right here on YT, search up some footage of the United States Army during WW2, Korea, and 'Nam. Once you've finished, come back and tell us more about how the army's main focus is to 'hold ground'.
I say again, whether it's army infantry, or marine infantry, the differences are negligible.
Forget the uniforms, forget the drill, forget all that other silly crap that means absolutely NOTHING during times of war. Infantry to infantry, there's practically zero difference. Now, you can try and change my mind. But you'll have a better chance of taking down a fully grown bull elephant with a spitball.
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@whodat9198 Uhm, did you bother to see the date of that link you posted??? (Hahahahahahahaha!) Bro, if you're gonna seriously grab supposed quotes from three people, out of the MILLIONS that served (provided they're accurate, and not embellished like all marines love to do), then I can't take anything you say seriously. You're literally talking about damn near ancient history. What I know is this....You're NOT superior, full stop! There are shitbird Marines (Try and tell me that there are not), and shitbird Soldiers. You will have studs in ALL branches. The US Army is the ass-kicking-est MF's on terra firma. We have kicked ass all throughout history. (Look it up) And no amount of shit talking, and vilification from you, or your lying ass brethren will change that. You are a small branch. You are the Department of the Navy. You try and make everyone who'll listen believe that just because you get yelled at in boot, you're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, I hate to bust your bubble, bruh...But you couldn't BE more wrong! So, you just keep puffing, and beating your chest, and making your rounds across cyberspace, telling everyone how badass you are! Meanwhile, the REAL badasses, who shut their mouths, and do their jobs get the props. Ask yourself why you never see Rangers, SEALs, AFPR, and CC's, Deltas, or SF's running around on YT shitting on their brothers in arms! On second thought, don't....As a Marine, you'll simply lie to yourself anyway. But, I'll tell you. REAL bad asses don't have to brag. If you have to brag, you ain't shit! (Badass 101)
Also, getting a badge doesn't make you a grenadier. But, you are BASICALLY TRAINED. (Sound familiar?) Just like graduating from boot makes you a BASICALLY TRAINED MARINE! The REAL training begins when you get to your PDS. You crayon gobblers seem to forget that. LOL! I went through in the 80s. And, contrary to what the text in that link reads, DS's said that you are (here it comes again) a BASICALLY TRAINED SOLDIER upon graduation! This is why they call it Basic "COMBAT" training!! And we ALL GO through it, whether you're a pog, or a hard charging grunt! That's been around FAR longer than that link you posted. But, whatever man YouTube is REPLETE with Soldiers kicking ass in combat! You bring up 3, or 4 instances of a couple of people not packing it, and you think that the whole branch is ass! Well, the fact that this country exists in its current iteration in terms of power, flies in the face of what YOU think of the Army!
But, if you REALLY want to continue this assery, let's go! I'm not talking about round bowns...Break down for me, the EXACT DIFFERENCES in TACSOP's, for the respective branches, and tell me how yours is superior! You're not dealing with a stupid man here, Gomer. So be careful!
I'm not convinced! ;-)
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@TheRIGOCOLA Bro, you're wasting your time with this fool. He, and his ilk are all the same. They've been lied to. He talks about the Army being out of shape. Like we really need cooks, quartermasters, and network admins to be fitness studs. Please! -_-
Whenever those clowns talk shit about the Army, they always refer to pogs. Never Infantry. Because they know what's up. They completely ignore the hardcore hard chargers, and concentrate fully on the aforementioned mos's. Finding a Marine who's respectful, and honorable (which they always talk of how prideful they are of it), is about as difficult as finding an amoeba in a hundred acres of tall grass! They're out there, but there aren't very many of them. THOSE are the Marines I respect. But guys like him?? Forget about it. I say, just let them wallow in a giant vat of misinformation, lies, and wanton stupidity.
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Hahahahahaha!!! Once again, you're only telling HALF the story. You guys are notorious for that. Sure, you have to shoot "AT" that 500 yard target. BUT (and this is a BIG but), you do NOT HAVE TO HIT IT. AND, you can STILL qualify EXPERT, without coming anywhere NEAR that 500 yard target. So why tf is it even there? Why even bother? Also, I'm going to copy/paste an excerpt from a rag called the Marine Times:
(Note....The USMC is adopting a NEW qual SOP. Guess which branch has already had this SOP for YEARS.)
"We've shifted the target down a human target. You do need to strike in what have been identified as lethality zones. Anything outside these zones, could suggest it's not a physiological stop, said CW5 John Costa, director of the marksmanship program management at the training battalion. That's because an operational analysis conducted in 2018 showed lethality gaps in which Marines were having problems hitting moving targets, and hitting human targets in ways that would incapacitate the person."
So, while YOU guys are shooting at cute little popup targets, the ARMY is shooting at MOVING targets, in full battle rattle.
One thing I found funny while reading that USMC rag, was that, they seem to love doing irrelevant comparisons to the ARMY. It was quite comical. Why you guys don't just shut up, and do your jobs, and stop putting down your brothers in arms, I'll never know. The fact that your females 'shoot at' a 500 yard target is precious. I guess they're now considered infantry, as a result, huh?
Man, that little brother syndrome must be a motherf**ker.
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@LetsTravelOurWorld
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the textbook response when you make an asinine statement, and have no answer when you're challenged. Well, before you embark on that vacation, let me give you something to mull over.
There are about 170,000 marines of which 70% are pogs. (Like I bet YOU were.) The army is FAR larger, with FAR more hardcore units, a MASSIVE budget, and MASSIVE firepower. It is arguably the most powerful army on terra firma. It, quite handily, could pummel any army's boots on the planet ALONE. Read that again, Gomer. If the marines had to go to war with the likes of Russia, China, or even NK WITHOUT the army, they'd get their clocks cleaned before you could say 'pimple pie'. Now, you can talk all the poop you want, but ya see, you NEED the army to win a war. But the army certainly doesn't need YOU. So, I'd show some respect to your brothers in arms, Gomer. The marines ain't fighting the army in any reality in your wildest dreams. You dolts don't seem to fathom that both branches play for the same team. It's quite comical, actually.
Have a nice vacation. 😉
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@glizzygoblin-nl2uh Well, if, by looking at my username, you're unable to ascertain whether I'm Army, or Marine Corps Infantry, tells me that you've never served. And that's okay. I'm just saying...If you don't know, you probably shouldn't comment. And I mean that with all due respect. 11 Bravo is an Army occupational specialty, which is unmistakably Infantry.
Whenever I hear (read) people say that the Marines take villages, while the Army occupies, that's a red flag to end all red flags, and couldn't BE more inaccurate.
Plus, if you knew WHY the Marines were established, then you would know that they were/are the Navy's ground-fighting force. They're also not technically a 'separate branch', as they fall under the Department of the NAVY! You're going to have to do a lot better than that, if you're going to try and convince me that Army Infantry, and USMC Infantry are vastly different. Admittedly, their MISSIONS are different. But, when it comes to INFANTRY, in terms of their respective actual TACSOPs, I maintain, the differences are almost too negligible to even mention. Apples to apples, bro. Only the varieties differ.
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@paulwilson8672
"Only green eyed of the money."
I read that three times, and STILL couldn't make it make sense. Kids, if you're watching, this is why you stay in school.
That 911 force thing is precious.
Except the:
101st Airborne Division, the 10th Mountain Division, the 3rd Infantry Division, the 173rd Airborne Brigade, the 75th Ranger Regiment, the 1st Cavalry Division, the 10th SFG, and the 82nd Airborne Division would vehemently disagree with you.
You marines love to give yourselves these cute little nick names, phrases, and sayings to make people think you're more bas@$$ than everyone else.
My favorite is how the Germans called you those delicious snack cakes. LMAO!
But, like Journey first said way back in 1981.....Don't stop believin'. ;-)
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@DepressedCrayonEater
Either you didn't read the post, or you don't know the difference between "bread" (which is what YOU wrote), and "bred".
You guys absolutely KILL me with that culture crap. Let me clue you in, sir. Your history, and ethos don't mean dooley squat in real war. It only matters when you're in garrison, or when you're telling everyone who'll listen, that you're a marine. You're not special. You just THINK you are. Your 'distinct role' is that you're naval infantry. (pogs notwithstanding) But, let's be honest.
Although you do fight well, you're redundant. Amphibious landings are about as passé as muskets, and dueling pistols. You exist only because the navy can't 'infantry'. (Except SEALs) Your infantry, and army infantry are practically identical. Accept it, because it is the truth.
That 911 thing? You need to stop it. Everyone who's ever served in combat arms knows that that is solely dependent on the mission, and NOT the branch. Because the 75th, 101st, 3ID, 10th MTN, and the 82nd all vehemently disagree with you.
As for all marines being basically trained in infantry tactics, you literally described the army, dude. Because every single potential soldier WILL have to be basically trained in infantry tactics. And that's irrespective of MOS. The "C" in BCT literally stands for COMBAT. The difference is, OUR pogs KNOW that they're pogs. They don't try to fancy themselves as hard charging grunts like marine pogs do. Just ask the average 0311 if he thinks that quartermaster, spoons, or network admins are the same. That oughtta get a good laugh.
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