Comments by "ElevenB" (@elevenb6967) on "Task & Purpose"
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@paulwilson8672 Wow, man. You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
How are Marine units "faster to deploy"??
Have Marine aircraft been equipped with warp engines that can break the light barrier? I had no idea.
"America's 911 force"? That's hilarious.
I guess you've never heard of the 82nd, the 101st, the 10th MTN, the 3ID, or the 75th.
Fair enough. If that is true, look them up, and educate yourself.
Lastly, to 'Orange' transport with another service shouldn't be considered a slight, when you're trying to win wars. (Which, our country has done since its inception.) What you Gomers fail to fathom, is that, the United States military's branches are NOT enemies with one another. We're on the same team. The sooner you realize that, the better. So many of you think that you're superior. You're not. That's a FACT. Reconcile yourself to it. You'll be better for it. -_-
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@LeatherneckJoe133
That's one hell of a picture, son. Unfortunately, it was painted by a rank amateur, who hasn't the foggiest idea what he's talking about
I'm guessing you were either chaptered out, or, you were a pog. Marine pogs are funny in that, they're always the ones who like to fancy themselves as hardcore juggernauts, and have the biggest mouths, when they've NEVER lived the life of a grunt. In fact, the only thing they talk about incessantly, is learning basic $h1t (boot).
I say this because only a clueless pog would say that the marines go in and wipe everything out, only so that the army, whose infantry BTW, is every bit as capable as marine infantry, can go in, and 'hold the beachhead'. That's ridiculous. IF you were infantry, then you would know that that's not what we do.
But, you're probably young, and this is the drivel that your DI's force-fed you in history classes while at boot. So, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Either way, you couldn't BE more wrong if you wanted to be. Educate yourself BEFORE you post, sir.
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@LeatherneckJoe133
Well, then I stand corrected. And I do thank you for your service to this great nation.
But you're still wrong. I've seen footage of soldiers fighting in the Vietnam War. I never saw them "holding" jack. They were deep in the $h1t, battling.
"if you know anything about the US Marines you know that they are grunts first then they’re secondary MOS comes in"
What I know for a fact is, unless you're an 03, you are definitely NOT a grunt. Going to the range once a year, does not an infantryman make. (Not even close) That's just some bull$h1t marine pogs love to say, so they can feel like they're hardcore infantry.
Also, when soldiers go through Basic Combat Training, they're taught 'BASIC' infantry tactics. As you can see, the "C" in BCT literally stands for COMBAT. And every single soldier will go through it. And that's irrespective of mos. But, unlike marines, pog soldiers KNOW that they're pogs, and don't try and convince the entire world that they're infantry, when they're decidedly NOT.
And, to answer your question, yes. I was US Army Airborne infantry. 11 Bravo was my mos. You're never too old to learn something.
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@spazman8675309 That's fair. It's kinda like how I'M never surprised when Marines talk shit about the Army on literally every single Army (US military) video on YouTube.
I'll make it clear, and easy to understand....Infantry is Infantry! And that is irrespective of which branch you're on about. The differences are negligible, full stop.
That whole 'ready to fight anytime, anywhere' thing is absolutely NOT exclusive to the USMC. The Army has its own RDF's. The beachhead thing....It's over. It's not even really a thing anymore. It always tickles me when I hear Marines talking incessantly about beaches, vs. inland. HOW you get to the A/O is completely irrelevant. It's what you do when you GET there, that's important. It takes no special Infantry skills whatsoever, to ride on/in watercraft, while en route to the battle. Army Infantry is just as capable of striking hard, and fast, as the Marines. If you doubt that, go to the search window, and type in: 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Airborne Division, 3rd Infantry Division, 1st Infantry Division, 75th Ranger RGT., 18D, and many others. Look at their training, or combat footage. Once you've done that, then talk to me about hitting hard, and striking fast. If you missed it, I'll type it again.....INFANTRY IS INFANTRY! Change my mind.
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@spazman8675309 "since I have to spell it out, the navy and marine corps are on scene first,
Uhm, that would completely depend on where the campaign is there, champ. So, you "spelled it" wrong. I re-read your initial post. I don't think the word "analogy" is used in the proper context. But, whatever. You're still wrong. If the Army, and Air Force are capable of, as you say, 'larger', and 'wider spread' attacks, then why would the USMC even be necessary?
Now, I'm not saying that you could not have amassed knowledge of ground fighting SOP's of the respective branches....But....well.....let me put it this way, I'm not gonna talk about what the Navy does, never having SERVED in the Navy. Especially when I have no idea what I'm talking about. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING depends on the mission at hand. But, I do respect, and prop you for serving as a gunner. :-)
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@blaircolquhoun7780 It doesn't. I maintain, that how you get to the fight, whether it's via watercraft, aircraft, landcraft, or teleportation beaming, is irrelevant. The infantry does not conduct warfare "on the water". It conduct it on LAND.
So, the term "amphibious warfare" is not only a misnomer, it is misleading. Again, you're using amphibious craft to get to the land to fight. They may as well call it amphibious transportation. Because really, that's all it is.
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The reason that difference wasn't mentioned, is because, like the Thylacine, it doesn't exist. That literally would be like saying that the difference between Granny Smith apples, and Gala apples, is that Gala apples taste like chicken. Not even close. Also, as for the army being slower.....Well, there are a pretty sizable amount of army units that would vehemently disagree with you. Among them, would be the 82nd Airborne Division, the 101st Airborne (Air Assault) Division, the 10th Mountain Division, the 3rd Infantry Division, the 1st Infantry Division, the 173rd Airborne Brigade, and the 75th Ranger Regiment. ALL of which are RDF, light infantry units. The problem with a lot of marines, is that they think that the army consists exclusively of lumbering tanks. Tankers are NOT infantry. I always get a kick out of that 'we do more with less' crap. That's an old wives' tale that just won't die. Along with the army's mission statement being to 'hold ground'. Absolutely hilarious. I really wish you guys would know what you're talking about before you post. Army infantry, and marine infantry are practically identical. Oh, and BTW, overwhelm is one word, not two.
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