Comments by "ElevenB" (@elevenb6967) on "Task & Purpose"
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@robertoshea9825
Discipline is mandatory in all branches. It's not up to the marines to set the standard by which the other branches implement theirs. They have to understand that different branches do things differently.
They somehow consider it undisciplined to call a Sergeant First Class "Sarge". Yet, they are cool with calling a Gunnery Sergeant "Gunny". This, I could understand, if they were in basic, where that is (obviously) not tolerated. You have to be at your PDS, fully fledged, before you can even think about that.
As for being weaker. In what regard? The bench press? LOL. A lot of marines think that being fit somehow makes them better shooters. They always compare themselves to army pogs. Pogs, BTW, who almost never see anything even remotely resembling combat. Very rarely do they comment on the infantry. And that's because they know that both army, and marine infantry are almost completely identical. (Some have even said redundant) The U.S. Army is arguably the most powerful army on the planet. Without us, the marines would be finished, and they know it. With all of the hardcore soldiers in the army, you have to ask yourself why you never hear them talking mess. That's because they're the SILENT professionals. The difference is, soldiers do their jobs very well....Only with their mouths shut. A lot of marines.....Not so much. A lot of them love to d:k measure.
Soldiers don't do that. When you know your d:k is big, you don't need to measure.
And lastly, that cute little "do more with less" thing they love to trumpet never gets an answer when asked to elaborate; Do more what, and with less what?
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@kennethralcock
That's cute. Except you're missing pretty significant portions of the story. (Which is something you marines are notorious for doing.)
Lebanon:
14,000 boots, 5600 marines. - Lie
Nicaragua:
700 marines - Miniscule conflict
OEC:
118 Delta, Special Forces, and Rangers would decidedly NOT constitute a "large army force" - Exaggeration
(Please watch a documentary on what went wrong, then come back and tell us how the marines would have fared any better in that situation)
Monterey: 50 marines, 100 sailors - That was not a war, it was a street fight.
I was able to research every instance you pasted. Looks like you copied them from a marine-biased rag. Not ONLY were almost every one of them ancient history (We're talking 1, to 2 CENTURIES ago), they were so miniscule. Most of them would literally be like calling your 6 foot7 inch big brother to fight your middle school bully. You really want props for that, man? You really want to try and vilify your own brothers in arms for some glory-by-association, that you will never experience? AND, you want props for 10-12 marines, per embassy, standing a post representing some bada$$ery of which only marines are capable?
Try handling Russia, or China, or even NK WITHOUT the army, and see how well that works out for ya. Unreal! -_-
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One of my units was mechanized Infantry. My PltSgt, Company 1SG, BatSGM, and even BdeSGM, were all ex drills, and tabbed. 5 mile runs every PT, almost CONSTANT FTX's! We were hard charging animals! I never envied the Marines. EVER! We trained with them during Reforger. Literally zero difference in our respective TACSOPs, and methodology. The Marines are literally a fraction of the size of the Army. So, even their pogs think they're 0311s. (lol) So, it's a lot easier for them to adhere to the 'culture'. Cooks, and Network Admins are FAR less likely to be 'gung ho, kill everything'. Because....Well....They're pogs. They're not expected to be that way. But, combat MOS's??? Completely different animal. (At least in MY experience.)
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@scottkain8977 Four years? E-4??? That's cute. But, hardly accurate. 😀
"but at my level of service we must categorize everything into mission designations so we don't step on each other's toes."
I'm seriously trying to make any sense of this. If you delete the term "expeditionary force" from your Marine Corps lexicon, do the Marines suddenly go away? Mmmm....I'm gonna guess no. But, the Marines using it to describe what they do, exclusive of the other branches, again, TO ME, is silly. And, let's say, for S's-n-G's, that the term IS erased.....Please explain how, exactly, toes would get stepped on.
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@scottkain8977 I never said that it wasn't a beautiful institution of killers. (TBT, I like that description FAR more than the whole expeditionary force crap)
My only beef with (mostly pot ass) Marines, is the fact that the overwhelming majority of them suffer from delusions of superiority.
What they fail to grasp, is that fighting with each other is completely asinine. We are brothers in arms, full stop. I'd rather fight the enemies of our country, than a Marine.
Even those nasty pigs, who think they're more highly trained than an Army grunt, just because they got yelled at in boot. (And trust me, they're out there, in HUGE numbers. You only need to peruse this very comments section that you're in right now, if you don't believe me.) Not even remotely accurate...But comical, nonetheless. ;-)
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We are coming to the end of the year 2022....And you Gomers STILL believe, that the USMC is SO badass, they're the only ones (all 180,000 of you...70% pogs) that can be called to military action, without congressional approval. LMFAO!
Hate to break it to you, buddy boy, but there hasn't been an official declaration of war, by the United States, since 1941. And THAT means, Korea, Nam, Grenada, Iraq, and Afghanistan, were all wars with NO congressional declaration. In those aforementioned wars, I'm fairly certain that all four branches participated. I may be wrong, but I doubt it.
Educate yourself BEFORE you post, son. That way, you won't look like Bozo. -_-
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