Comments by "Meh Pluribus Unum" (@pluribus_unum) on "Democracy Now!"
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@otmargreb6110 - The key distinctions between Social Democracy (what is erroneously called socialism by you here) in capitalist economies and actual Socialist economic systems [are] vast.
Social Democracy could be summed up as, capitalism with some important, and life-saving, limitations on the intrinsic cruelty it otherwise sure seems to engender.
With different degrees of social support, the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Germany, the Netherlands, et. al., are capitalist economies -- albeit with massive state intervention in the markets -- with social democratic governmental policies regarding the provisioning of health care, education, housing, food, and employment.
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@jimcarrington6744 - Wrong.
The best things Democrats have passed are filibustered without allowing even debate by Republicans, but a simple read of any of the three versions of The For the People Act (2019, 2020 or 2021) they've passed makes clear that Democrats are passing legislation that the public demands.
Looking at things that have passed in the Senate, The American Rescue Act, the stimulus bills, The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act -- all represent massive reinvestment in American social democracy and widening of the social safety net.
In fact, they include landmark social democracy investments in a scale that we haven't seen since FDR and the New Deal.
The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, for example, "isn’t a stimulus bill; it’s not a singular response to a specific economic crisis. IIJA represents a longer-term patient approach to rebuilding American competitiveness through infrastructure."
In other words, addressing the damage of neoliberal economic policies and returning to investing in American workers, the national infrastructure and American competitiveness.
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@dexterramey8787 - It just isn't a factor, and the slow down wasn't because of Obama's comments.
"Some research has suggested that messages like these can affect how migrants think about making the journey, but no research has proved that it actually stops them from coming."
“It’s not that messaging has no effect,” Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy counsel at the American Immigration Council, an immigrant advocacy and legal aid group, said. “It’s just that the role of messaging as something that could potentially stop people from choosing to come in the first place — there’s no evidence."¹
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"The evidence of a widespread and sustained decline in undocumented migration to the United States is irrefutable. In a more fact-based era, this would be recognized as a major national accomplishment. Moreover, the steady decline in the population since 2010 refutes the recurrent argument that consideration by Congress of an earned legalization program or the DREAM Act, or even the establishment of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program — all of which occurred during this time-frame — invariably leads to increased undocumented immigration. In addition, as previously documented by CMS, the United States has turned a significant corner in immigration enforcement. The remaining US undocumented population has extremely long tenure, strong equitable ties, and firm roots in the United States."²
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¹ The US is telling migrants “don’t come.” They might not be listening.: How much does Kamala Harris’s messaging about the border matter? by Nicole Narea, June 8th, 2021 - Vox
² The US Undocumented Population Fell Sharply During the Obama Era: Estimates for 2016 by Robert Warren, February 22nd, 2018 - Center for Migration Studies
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