Comments by "" (@tomk3732) on "BBC News" channel.

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  7.  @mysteriousstranger6857  This has nothing to do with legality or illegality of Russian occupation. Russia is in de facto control and thus has full rights to the waters. Same as any other power that is doing an occupation of any land, whatever recognized or not. This is why UK warship did alter its course and moved out of the waters. Since it clipped on a triangle it was not a big deal. If you were correct then UK warship could have just been parked there. If you are correct the Taiwan can give permission to anyone to sail /fly into PRC waters/air. And vice versa. Also you can certainly fly over Golan Heights, not recognized by anyone except Israel without asking Israel - good luck with that. There are many, many examples. The international law is set on de facto as it is far more practical. Imagine Scotts demanded independence and UK did not want to give it to them. They would claim they are occupied. Would it now suddenly by OK for Russians to sail in Scottish waters if some Scottish lad gave them permission? It also lead to "not recognized" question - if say Russia does not recognize X would it mean it can simply ignore current ownership? What about partial recognition? As you can see it is far easier to go de facto - nice and clear. I mean Spain claims Gibraltar and Argentina claims Falklands - so one can say UK is also occupying these lands - I mean who is the legal authority on Earth (God?) who grants this full on de juro ownership. There is lots of "lines of control" especially in Asia. It is not clear to anyone whom exactly should own the land - even UN cannot resolve the issue. Its not white and black. Hence de facto.
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  8.  @mysteriousstranger6857  Taiwan is as recognized as is Crimea. Israel's territories it occupies are recognized by everyone as occupied. When US invaded Grenada they had ZERO support from international community. It established occupational authority and took over territorial waters. In short UN "international community" opinion do not matter much. There would not be any "war" as a result of a skirmish - as wars have "purpose". International community sees this as provocation. It is also not legal as per international law. So I fail to see HOW international community would rail around UK. Status of "Crimea" is meaningless - occupational authority is Russia. Full UN vote would certainly fail for the UK - these even failed against Israel multiple times (Palestine coast). Israel had no qualms in sending armed troops and killing people. In occupied zone. Foreigners. UK is no US. There is no "power" to back things up. Any "war" would be interesting as there would be no purpose. UK ships would not be allowed into Bosphorus so they could not sail next to Crimea. What would UK do - invade Vladivostok? Come on, be sensible. US did get rammed once and did not try such stunt for some time afterwards (in almost exact same spot - the fact of Crimea not being contested back then was of no issue). Stunts are risky. What if there was miscalculation in the stunt? And we are talking about US here not some small island that is not even part of EU. The main fallout would be diplomatic, sanctions and more behind scenes diplomacy. Lets just say there would be no sailing in Russian waters for a while - recognized or not (which is of no issue). Also this may be brought to international court so UK gets its "international community" response.
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