Comments by "Christian Baune" (@programaths) on "Timcast"
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18:40 Children have under developed brains...So, compared to adults, they are stupid. That's why you take more time to teach them and that you teach them things that are very basic.
As an example, basic reading (most common words, very few syllables) is done over 5 years. Holding a pencil is taught during 2 to 3 years!
Basic social interactions like being polite, respecting other people, listening...It's almost 9 years.
To be able to add 1/2 to 1/3 without much troubles, it takes almost 13 years!
And then, in one year, they learn how to invert a matrix, add vectors, compute a ball trajectory etc.
It just that the brain is not fully developed before 16, so they have an hard time and some ideas are too abstract and symbolism is not fully present yet.
And some adults, enough to be highlighted, will never acquire ability to abstract and it's usually a non issue as those people most often chose a more "down to earth" job and are happy.
Of course, some kid do have a more developed brain and sometimes, better developed than the average adult. But those are quite rare.
I had a 12 year old who once asked me how much I was paid for my work (I was teaching kids to code on a voluntary basis). I replied "nothing" and he went: "But you could be paid for it, right?". He was puzzled. That kid pulled a plat-former using Scratch using vectors math... Great intelligence for his age, but a brain not totally formed, hence such disparities.
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In smaller communities, there are also chances police is more lenient and even siding with population. Not because the population outnumber them, but because they form a closed community.
In Belgium, there are villages where the community is so closed, you realize it as soon you enter the village. You literary have the feeling you are not welcome as a foreigner!
Then when you know someone...you know everyone! Not a joke, people know your name even when you never saw them because people just share information.
I lived in a village and whatever you did was known by everyone. When I was told that in big cities, you should not say "hello" to everyone and that most people do not even know their neighbor, I didn't believe it. Well, moved to the city and indeed, I was that huge weirdo to whom people frown randomly.
The mentality is really different. At the same time, in a big city, as an individual, we have much less footprint. In the village, all actions had a great footprint.
We had some moron who decided to throw paint on the door of a lady next to the station, next day, everyone saw that! Few days in, the guilty one were found. Not because of police ^^
Then they got punished and had to repaint the door. Again, not by the police. Though, calling the police was the menace.
You do that in a city, the guy pull a knife, stab you and continue his route ^^
Now, I don't have to walk 3km to find a shop and if I want to see a movie at the cinema, I don't have to ride a train for 45 minutes....
All of that to say dynamic is totally different. Sens of community too.
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"own it" is really the best advice there.
I am back to studies and I could see that stuff at play. We were asked to read an essay. About a 20 minutes read.
When the lesson started, the teacher asked what we thought about the text and it was obvious one student didn't even bother to read the title. Instead of owning it, he started with "but ...".
On another lesson, I overlooked that we had to read about something. Then teacher asked point blank "have you all read the lesson ?". And I went forward and apologized that I overlooked it. Guess what, it was fine because I do not have to apologize at every lesson and this can happens (we have our full time job to do too).
In my work, I deleted data on production server and a friend was sitting next to me. When he realized what I did, he shat in his pant and I kept cool. I sent an email to the boss saying I did a major screw up and was already working out a solution. Sure, the boss came in the office, yielled, threw the equipment around. But a week later, I got an apology and a raise. I kept cool, we got thing fixed. That's all that matter.
If I didn't owned it, then it could have been a month or even year length issue when each client realize, in turn, that data is missing. By owning it, we recovered most of the data and the impact went from huge to small.
And of course, I don't delete production server every day.
If you feel you can't own it because you make the same kind of mistakes every tile, the you are not learning! If you can't learn, you are not putting yourself in the right situation.
As an example, I don't drive. I tried it hard, asked to friend to observe me and I was a wreck. Well, I simply avoided driving althogether. Yes common transports sucks. Yes, I see people freedom with their car. But I'll not smash my car in a kid, biker ...
"own it" and act accordingly!
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11:47 Well, you can and it's even useful. You can believe two contradictory things and even have two contradictory mental models.
Compatibility is an extra cost that the brains often neglect for his own good. The brain is very lazy and take shortcuts.
What makes is difficult to understand is that shortcuts can be very different from one person to another because their brain ended up favoring a specific structure.
When teaching, it's very important to understand this as that means there is no universal way to teach. That's why big classes are a big problem.
A classical example is with kids:
- Student: Of course, age can't be negative.
- Teacher: Then why didn't you try to correct the answer ?
- Student: because that's math.
Another great example is people knowing that everyone act on their own will, yet using their own experience to predict other behaviors.
It's the belief that everyone has their own behaviors, but at the same time, behaviors of others are the same as ours.
Or the belief that everything will stay as it is for millenniums, while acknowledging that everything change in a snap.
And the weaker you are mentally, the more those contradictory beliefs occurs. It's part the "low consumption mode" of the brain.
On top of that, there are situations where it's too painful to lean on one side, so the brain go through insane hoops to make it compatible.
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@typingcat Well, programs change. And sometimes, a lot of material get changed.
Also, what we teach is a very small part of what we have to learn. As an example, im Euclidean Geometry, we will present the circle as "round", while in d1 and d∞ it's looking like a square!
As an example, probability is phased out and statistics is introduced.
We did calculations from left to right, now there are order of operations.
Scalen is not anymore synonymous to "any", but to "with no particular caracteristic".
It's also why teachers have to routinely go to update training ^^
On top of that, remember that teachers are teaching kids that have to go to school. Not kids who enjoy school, have to.
If a teacher do a year without updating, he will teach old material with old methodology.
Now, compared to business analyst in IT, where you've to learn the business of each client to offer right solutions, yeah, it's much less learning. Consider that a lot of people fail the studies, because they think it's easy, then have no methodology, are hearing about psychology for their first time etc...
In internship, I had to put dowm two fights and there were no warning signs. And you can't punch the students 🤣
You've to solve the issue right there, right down and in record time to continue your lesson.
Most people thinking it's easy would last 5 minutes before telling gibberish and having a fiesta in the class 😁
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@typingcat Lol, it's not how it work.
When you teach trigonomotry, even the best start to complain as the material is hard to digest. So, you can't skip the material, because you know only 1 out of 10 will be genuinly interested.
This morning, I had a reminder of alll the trigonometry taught in high school. The teacher told use that because the subject is hard (you have Taylor and Fourrier lined up), if we fail that "chapter", it automatically fails us for all other chapters. They had to do that, because students (futur teachers), just skipped those classes knowing that acing the other chapters would not make even a zero in trigonometry noticeable.
As a teacher for kids, you can't do that, though. So, you have to male them invested in trigonometry. Even if that means that you will teach how to make a simple video game and sneak trigonometry ^^
Also, don't forget that teacher teaches 4 years. And the programs change for every years fairly regularly. And you don't teach 1st graders the same way you teach 4th graders. Entirely different dynamics. And when you change school, you have a new culture to integrate. Some school will tell you to be more lenient and have a focus on some moral values. Other will focus on strict obedience and performance, letting the morale to be determined by the pupils (so, you are not even allowed to say something is immoral, but you have to provide the tools).
The things is that it's more social than technical, qualitative tham quantitative. So, from the outside, it's hard to understand the difficulties ^^
And also mind that a good teacher is standing up and moving around for 8 hours.
Also, classical error, you focu on material. But the pedagogy and methodology dwarf it ^^
And schools have different pedagogies. Some are active, transmissive, participative, flipped, project oriented...
I am an analyst developer, learning to become a math teacher so, I know about both ^^
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For arresting the victim, well, there is originally a reason for that. But normally, it's not your standard arrest. What you want is isolate the victim as fast as possible (e.g. having the victim sit in your car) and then handle the perpetrators. Really, first priority is security.
Once the victim has damages, they are hard to repair. So, best avoid it.
Issue is that now, the victims are literally arrested and assumed guilty. That's WTF!
And of course, there are scenario where it makes sense to put down perpetrators first. It's not an absolute rule.
Here is a relatable situation: you are watching your kid in a playground and see a dispute. A kid is bullied. First thing you do is removing the bullied kid. It doesn't mean taking the kid, it means speaking to him and telling they are just bullying and reassuring him. THEN you can tell the other kids about their behavior.
If you handle it the other way around, you become a target and it becomes less manageable because you broke a social barier.
This transfer very well. As an example, in the professional world, you don't answer directly to criticism of colleagues toward another. You speak directly to that colleague about those criticisms then pull back and intervene only if the colleague can't really handle it.
I had a case where I had to make a physical barrier and break that rule because the guy was becoming violent.
But it rejoin the rule as I protected the victim too. Also, the victim was bullied without means of answering properly.
So, again, not an hard rule.
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The "be prepared" is not "have your wallet in your hand". It's about not taking risk to keep it.
I was once attacked by 3 people who wanted my phone and one was able to grab me. In my head, I had a plan:
- Run the shoe acroos his leg, then kick with the ass (very effective)
- With the momemntum, hit the throat of the one facing me
- Third one looked unsure about what they did, so he would not fight
Then the guy showed a nice knife.
At that point, I said "Ok, can I just take my SIM card before handing you the phone ?".
There are situations where one can't do anything.
In another attack, they were two and they will always rember as I kicked their ass. They attacked by behind and by the time I realized, I was already on the floor (they hit the knees).
I had my phone in my right hand, so I pulled the guy who was sitting and started to kick him with legs and I stun him. Gave few left punches too.
The other one flew like a coward when I stood up and the one I punched jumped in the bush by fear of a longer treatment 😁
Then I ran in a school for protection because these guys operate in crowd of 10-15 people. I called a friend and when we left the building, around 10 people were waiting for me!
Of you are in good shape, you can easily take 2 or 3 of them. With martial art training, 7 should be ok.
But with knifes in hand, it's another story.
That's why guns are not a bad idea. Or at least pepper spray. For the first, without training, not sure it's usefull.
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They clearly have mental issues. When I have discussions, they assume my parents are rich.
At least, richer than the average. So, I am the devil!
Except my parent was the state for my 18 first years, then after I only had a father.
So, yeah, had a huge handicap to start live (on top of that, autism).
Still, miles ahead of those idiots who are manipulated by people who only seek power.
They do not even realize because they think they will get free stuff and in some extent, it's true as I am one of the guy paying for them.
Then they complain because they can't have more. Not realizing how much they already got for not contributing.
Economics is totally foreign to them, as is effort.
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