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From where I'm sitting it looks like the USA and Britain cynically used Ukraine as bait to damage Russia.
Look at what we've been telling Ukraine for years: "You can have it all, you can be members of NATO and the EU, you can become just like Western Europe, and you can ignore the demands of your more powerful neighbor to the East, you don't have to make compromises with them."
If we were willing to fight Russia on Ukraine's behalf, or if Ukraine was powerful enough to avoid invasion by Russia, those would be reasonable things to be telling them. But we aren't willing to fight Russia (and never were), and Ukraine is simply not powerful enough to prevail against a really determined Russia. So our approach was either grossly irresponsible or worse: deliberately designed to lead Ukraine down a very dangerous path. Which is it?
Well, consider that we all saw Russia was willing to use force in Georgia in 2008, we've heard the Kremlin saying for years that they view Ukraine being made into a bulwark of Western power to be utterly unacceptable, we knew that we were infuriating Moscow by trying to take Ukraine out of their orbit, and we saw from 2014 onward that Russia was willing to wreck Ukraine before they allowed that to happen. It was always obvious that in any tug-of-war between the West and Russia over Ukraine, it would be Ukraine that would suffer the most.
So given all that, I find it very hard to believe the approach taken by Washington and London was simply naive, accidental, or mistaken. It looks very much like the intent was to force Russia to either fight for Ukraine or lose it. Now we give (or sell, it isn't quite clear) Ukraine just enough weapons to prolong a fight we know they can't win.
Have we been good friends to Ukraine in all of this? It doesn't look like it.
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@realMaverickBuckley I didn't say anything about forced repatriation (I don't think it is even doable, even putting aside the moral concerns). I suggest that the nations of Europe - like England, Sweden, Norway, Ireland - could simply say: "That's enough immigration and diversity for us, thanks. We will be turning away people who seek to come here from now on."
Is that racist? Of course it is. But is it in the self-interest of the Swedes, the Norwegians, the English and Irish (and so on_? Yes. So how about we stop caring so much that considering our own self-interest will get us called racist by people who don't have our self-interest at heart anyway, and calmly, politely, but firmly assert our right to control demographics in our favor. Bear in mind we're going to be cursed as "racist, supremacist, privileged, colonialist" anyway regardless of what we do.
There is nothing wrong with preferring relative homogeneity to mass-diversity.
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@louislemar796 Washington and the Federalists were clearly, unambiguously Nationalists. There's no denying this. They consciously created a nation-state, inspired in large part by England. Nationalism doesn't argue the nation-state is the primary unit of moral value. It argues that nations should either be created or upheld where they exist, and that the liberties and self-interests of individual citizens must be balanced with their collective-interests as a nation.
Individual rights are a contributor to the USA's success, but by no means the only or sole cause. Try this thought experiment: In 1789, take the exact same set of ideas - the exact same constitution - and put it in Iceland. Would Iceland have become become exactly as powerful as the USA? No. Not even remotely. Geography being the first of many reasons. Location matters, as does population size (and content), as do natural resources.
The vast, resource-rich, continental United States was obtained by violent conquest. That's isn't a criticism of it or a call for Americans to feel shame, just an acknowledgment of historical fact. The individual liberty stuff came later. Take the violent conquest of that land by Europeans out of the equation and you don't get the USA's success, or even the USA at all.
Then there's the USA's geopolitical competitors in Europe destroying themselves in two world wars, and so on... In short, it isn't just a set of ideas or rights that explain the USA's success, though they are undoubtedly an important part of the explanation.
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@christinerussell113 It's a bit dubious to assign blame for everything that happened in the USSR to Russia, especially at times when much of the leadership was made up of people who weren't ethnic Russians (e.g., Stalin), and when Russians very often also suffered from the same policies. The Soviet Union was a multi-ethnic internationalist empire, rather than a Russian nationalist project, and its leadership reflected that from the beginning. The Holodomor is contested history (at least as far as the intent, scale, and the categorization of it as a genocide are concerned). It's also worth mentioning that prior to 2014 (and even for some time after) most Ukrainians polled had favorable or neutral views towards Russia. The extreme anti-Russian, Stepan Bandera enthusiasts were a small fringe, mostly confined to the West of the country. Obviously the war has changed everything since.
One thing I've learnt over the years listening to nationalists from Eastern Europe is they all remember the times their nation or ethnic group was wronged by a neighbor, but often selectively forget the times their nation or ethnic group wronged their neighbors. You can't throw a rock in that region without hitting someone who could (if they wished to) adopt a historical grievance against virtually all of their neighbors.
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@louislemar796 Nationalism is NOT the theory that a society needs a nation state
Yes it is. Or rather, it is one form of nationalism. There are multiple. At it's most basic, a belief in the value of nation-states is nationalist, as is the desire to create or uphold one. One cannot desire to create a nation-state without being a variety of nationalist.
I disagree entirely, If Iceland had a set of founding fathers, who held the same ideas and implemented them in the same way then Iceland would be as successful.
Impossible. Iceland does not have the size, location, population, or resources as the USA. The argument is not over whether Iceland would have any success at all. It is that Iceland would not be anywhere near as successful as the USA (because the USA's success depends on more than just a set of ideas). Hong Kong was not unsuccessful. But Hong Kong was/is nowhere near as successful as the USA.
Europe destroying itself was also a massive hindrance to the USA
Not when it came to becoming the world's dominant superpower. The previous holder of that crown was the British Empire, which destroyed itself in two world wars. Had that not happened, the USA would have to contend with a world in which the British were still at least as powerful, if not more so, than them.
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