Comments by "Yo2" (@yo2trader539) on "TAKASHii"
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There is no correct answer in identity, ethnicity, or nationality. And each person and society is different. Since Japanese society was traditionally organized around paternal lineage, we inherit the family name, tombs, registry (KOSEKI), customs, and religious sect, etc from father's side. (This practice of paternal lineage dates back to ancient clan structure such as 氏 or ウジ.) In modern times, Japanese society only viewed children of Japanese fathers to be Japanese.
Until legal revisions in 1984, Japan only issued natural-born citizenship to children of Japanese fathers (except for single-mothers), and dual-citizenship was allowed. Thus, children of Japanese immigrants--like President Fujimori of Peru--or children of international marriages with Japanese fathers were allowed to have dual citizenship. Dual-citizenship was banned from 1985, and Japanese immigrants can no longer receive natural-born citizenship. To date, we still can identify NIKKEI-JIN with a Japanese family name.
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@@homie3461 Good points, and thanks for the clarification. I think the common joke is that "Language is a dialect with an Army and Navy." In other words, it's often times political categories than linguistic ones. Examples are like Thai and Laotian, Norwegian/Swedish/Danish, German and Dutch, Romanian and Moldovan, or even Spanish and Portuguese.
If I recall in the field of linguistics, there is no concrete definition of language vs dialect. But some say high mutual intelligibility or common lexicon/cognates is the deciding factor between language vs dialect.
As for proto-Japonic or "日琉祖語," we still don't know whether it's based on a Yayoi-language or a Jomon-language or a hybrid/pancake language. Phonetic similarity with some Austronesian/Polynesian languages, grammatical similarity with Turkic, Mongolic, Manchu, Koreanic, and a lot of unique Japanese cognates indicate that Japanese language is a hybrid language of the various people who moved to Japan from 38,000-40,000 years ago.
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@@homie3461 There are US bases in Yokosuka, Atsugi, Yokota, Misawa, Iwakuni, Sasebo...on mainland Japan, so I don't agree with your statement. Yes, indeed they are annoying and no local wants them.
At the same, we all understand that Japan has signed three military alliances--with the UK, Germany, and currently the US--in the 20th century alone to counter-balance the Russian/Soviet threat. The benefit outweighs the cost, at least currently.
Thus, I believe it's in Japan's interest to maintain the security alliance, especially with the increasing Chinese threat. Of all the prefectures, Okinawa is the most likely invasion target by the Chinese, so it does make sense to keep US forces in Okinawa (as the proverbial "Tripwire"). Also I don't think people in Tokyo have any desire to "suppress" Okinawa language/culture. The uniqueness of Okinawa is why it's the top vacation destination.
Also, if Japonic is a language from Manchuria, in theory there should be more common cognates with Koreanic and Manchu (which also originate from Manchuria). But even the basic words do not overlap, so I'm not so convinced in the West Liao River hypothesis.
The rice-farming and sea-faring Yayoi people (Y-DNA Haplogroup Group O1b2) who migrated to the Japanese Isle and Korean peninsula around 3,000-3,500 years ago do seem to have genetic lineage from around the Yangtze Basin. Their most common characteristic is low/weak alcohol tolerance, which is presumed to be a natural selection.
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@ductritran8637 Let's be real. TAIHO, MUROFUSHI Koji, MIYAZAWA Rie, TAMAKI Denny, HASEGAWA Jun, TAKIGAWA Christel, SAWAJIRI Erika, TAKAHASHI Ran, or SHIROTA Yu...endless amount of famous and successful half/mixed people in Japanese society. In other words, the discrimination is coming from the darker skin-tone.
In summer times, many Japanese women use umbrellas and wear long sleeves to avoid getting tanned. As traditional make-up indicates, there is a strong aversion of darker skin-tone. It's implied that people who work in the fields are more tanned, which means the aversion has socio-economic and cultural roots. I've heard similar stories from South Koreans and Chinese when it comes to beauty standards.
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@collectablechaos It's an unfortunate reality that is beyond our control. For instance, the Russian Embassy in Tokyo runs a school based on a Russian curriculum with dedicated certified Russian teachers. Children of Russian expats as well as ethnic Russians from CIS can receive (partial) Russian education in that school. But not all Russian kids are living in commuting distance of the Russian Embassy, which is located in downtown Tokyo near Roppongi area. (From what I've heard from Russians who were raised in Japan, Russian teachers are far more scary than Japanese teachers.)
It's also very common for Japanese kids who were raised outside of Japan to attend schools run by the Japanese government. But it is highly location/country dependent. For example, children of Japanese expats in Shanghai will be attending schools run by the Japanese government. They grow up speaking Japanese with their friends, teachers, and parents. So when they return to Japan, they have limited issue blending right it and taking university exams.
However, Japanese kids who grew up in certain parts of Australia won't even have the opportunity to receive formal education, because there is only Japanese schools in Sydney, Melbourne, and Perth (compared to 12 locations in China alone). And this has a long-lasting impact, because people with Japanese ancestry who have limited Japanese skills cannot serve as a bridge between Japan and their local countries/cultures. Which also creates a weird situation in which a foreigner who is fluent in Japanese becomes fare more valuable and accepted in Japan over children of Japanese expats who cannot read/write Japanese.
Believe me, many Japanese expats do their very best to teach Japanese language, culture, norms, and mannerism to their kids too. But the local environment is not always supportive of those goals.
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I don't think it has anything to do with residency status being 永住者 or 定住者. Immigration is tasked with filtering out unsuitable foreign national who could be potential threats to Japanese society. They're not tough enough is why we have so many crimes by foreigners. That said, I have strong suspicion that being from Brazil with no Japanese ancestry was flagged as well.
Japan changed its laws around 1990 and allowed children and grandchildren of Japanese emigrants and their spouses/children to live and work in Japan. In hindsight, it was a clear mistake to not require basic language fluency. The Ministry of Justice is the sole organization that decides visa eligibility. And people working there are from the generation who grew up watching news about Brazilian and other South Americans on Descendant Visa getting arrested for drugs, shoplifting, burglary, car-jacking, home invasion, violence, etc on a weekly basis. The crimes were often by Brazilian, Peruvian, and Colombian husbands of Japanese Descendant wives.
And it's not just the MOJ that was less than impressed with many Nikkei-Brazilians in Japan, who are often unable or unwilling to learn Japanese language and customs even after living in Japan for many years. Frankly, it was a shock seeing how descendants of Japanese emigrants changed so much after a few generations outside of Japan. The crimes became a social issue, so the government made it more difficult to obtain a Descendant Visa. Japan now requires minimum language skills for 4th Generation Descendant visa, trying to correct the mistakes they made with 2nd and 3rd generation Descendants and their spouses. (4th generation are able to switch to 定住者 after proving language fluency and 5 years of residency.)
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We have nearly 200,000 Japanese-Brazilians and Peruvians living and working in Japan. Of the 3 millions foreign-nationals residing in Japan, nearly 1 million are Chinese and half a million are Koreans. (Others are mostly from Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan, Indonesia, Thailand, Nepal, US, etc)
And the majority of nearly 30 million inbound foreign tourists each year are from neighboring Asian countries. Honestly, it's difficult these days to tell whether somebody is Japanese or not just by appearance (unless they have a very different skin-tone, fashion, make-up, mannerism, etc.). However, it would be impossible to be considered part of Japanese society unless you're fluent in Japanese language, culture, and mannerisms. It's the single most important criteria, regardless of ancestry.
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@julianneheindorf5757 Permanent Residency is the same in Japan, it's generally 10 years of continued residence in Japan. Spouses of Japanese Citizens will receive preferential treatment but there will be conditions such as language fluency, income stability, years of marriage, etc.
As for Spousal Visa, there will be clear reason for a visa rejection. And there are many spouses of Japanese citizens who aren't permitted to live in Japan. Spousal visa can be rejected if he/she had things like: (1) previous visa violations, (2) unpaid tax & social security payment, (3) incorrect information in visa application, (4) dubious or suspicious marriage, (5) unstable income, (6) socially undesirable, or (7) potential threat to Japanese society.
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@MW_Asura If I were to be honest, it's not the looks but the mannerism and mindset. We can easily tell the difference in behavior and body language from somebody from Eastern Europe & Russia, North America, and South America.
Even if all of them had identical genetics, those who would be considered most beautiful/attractive in Japan would be the ones from Eastern Europe and Russia. The way they walk, talk, dress, eat, sit, laugh, or interact is much more relatable and socially desirable. It's difficult to explain, especially as many people from North/South America have European ancestry. I think it's simply a cultural difference between Eurasia and the Americas.
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