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Comments by "bakters" (@bakters) on "Hitler WASN’T funded into power by the capitalists" video.
@drakmatheism " Is that Socialism? " Yes. " That question is very difficult to answer. " Maybe, if you are a socialist yourself.
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@ltmund " Socialism MUST include the worker ownership of the means of production " I grew up under Socialism, the workers did not own anything, therefore it was not Socialism?
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@ltmund " Socialists will argue the workers must own the means of production " That never happens. If that's why national socialism is not socialism, then any other form of socialism ever tried is not socialism as well.
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@ltmund " Don't shoot the messenger mate " Sorry. I got wrong without context.
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@allangibson8494 " he was the state and hence owned everything " That's how it was in a socialist country I grew up in too. The party owned the country.
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@drakmatheism Congratulations. It rarely happens that people listen to arguments and are willing to admit that they were incorrect.
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@drakmatheism " people [should] listen to the arguments of others " TiK does listen. We exchanged quite a few arguments, and he is willing to analyze them and at least try to reconcile them with his current views. The other side? Not so much, unfortunately.
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@Xiuhtec There is a bit of sanity within this approach. While capitalism successfully creates wealth, wealth results in power and power corrupts. The end result of both systems do not seem to differ all that much.
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@drakmatheism TiK, as he wrote himself, "swapped" from socialism to libertarian capitalism. Then "the other side" of current TiK are Marxist communists. I believe that both "sides" are utopian in nature, just in case that's somehow relevant.
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