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  19. Equity is "both fair and just" that's what people actually mean when saying equality. That is how the systems were being designed (granted the US always lags in social change). But these days that word is being misused to actually mean equal (or more than) outcome and not equal opportunity. The 'pay gap' has been proven broadly false, another misrepresentation by hyperbolic 'news' (of course with specific exceptions that need to be addressed). In other words they are arguing things like this deal are equity, when in reality they are objectively, equal outcome or better. For example, something we would take as fair and just is if two people are offered half the apples they pick in a day. If one person slacks off they would get less, and that seems both fair and just. Correct? Now imagine, person A picks one apple, and relaxes in the sun, but by the time person B returns at sundown person A is hungry again and sees a massive pile that person B is taking home. They then demand half of those apples as they both spent the day 'picking apples', if they get them that is equal, but it is neither fair nor just. Now if instead of effort the factor was skill. Say person A&B built widgets for the same amount of time every day. Person A has a lot of practice and can make 300 in a day; person B is new and only managed 50. If they were paid the same that is equal outcome again right? But it's not fair and just (unless society ignorantly decides that equal outcome is fair and just arbitrarily, like altering a definition. Then by assignment it would be regarded that way and fiercely upheld as the 'norm', but it would still remain measurably unreasonable.). Because what it does is make a citizen, by law based on a trait at birth, in a position of objectively greater advantage because if that person tries as hard as the others they will always come out on top (unless by illegal act, like theft, or real discrimination. Which should be litigated). That is exactly the opposite of an egalitarian society and NOT what we desire or had been working for. Regardless of what group benefits from that elevated status.
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