Comments by "Animal Farm" (@animalfarm7467) on "Thom Hartmann Program" channel.

  1. It appears that Kyrsten Sinema is one of the only few honest Democrats in existence. At least she screws her constituents out in the open and doesn't hide behind lies and obfuscation while pretending to work for the good of the American people like the others. What would you prefer; a Democrat that tells you openly they are going to stab you in the chest, or those other deceptive Democrats that pretend to work for your interests; and when given the opportunity, feign impotence or "mistake" and stab you in the back. At least you know where you stand with Sinema. I can only hope that more Democrats like Sinema show their true colors in the future; it would certainly transform politics as we know it. And when is Hartmann going to do a story on the FBI arrest of Igor Danchenko for his involvement in the Clinton-Steele dossier conspiracy that intentionally lied to the American people? These current truths about this Clinton scam certainly make a mockery of the 40 or so of Hartmann's "Russiagate" videos.
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  2. Why does Hartmann continue to berate the fool Trump when corruption has existed throughout much of the political history of the US? Is it just to fill in time or is he going to eventually use these pathetic arguments to justify the status quo and promote yet another swing to yet another plutocratic Democratic puppet. Trump strategists appear to be making it so easy for even the simplest minded to be critical of Trump and I always wonder why? Could these trump strategists be in the same business of maintaining the plutocrats’ status quo as Hartmann? Are both sides now engineering the bipartisan swing to a false Democratic relief like “Hope and Change”? So if it’s not the current puppets in both parties, for who is Hartmann working? If you listen carefully, you will find out. 02:30 “You can get away with asking for foreign help to get elected” & 03:30 “Maduro is doing the same thing on the Left”. So as we listen, we hear Hartmann promote the interests of his masters. “Asking for foreign help to get elected” refers to the fake Russiagate and the plutocrats push to replace Putin with one of their puppets; and “Maduro is doing the same thing on the Left” is aiding the false narrative the Maduro regime is corrupt and in doing so, giving legitimacy to the Washington puppet Guaido. So you see if you listen carefully, you will always hear Hartmann pushing narratives to maintain or enhance the plutocrats’ interests and maintain the status quo while continuing to push the false political choice – heads I win, tails you lose. Hartmann’s ideal world is one where he can convince his audience to vote establishment and always back the interests of the plutocrats; and in doing so, ensure there is always an administration controlled by the plutocrats in power.
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  3.  Bo Libor Kroupa  : I see you are just another militant right wing democrat working for the Neocons that usually call themselves "Liberal". Hartmann is also a right wing democrat working for the plutocrats falsely selling himself as a progressive - and the rubes fall for it every time. If for some reason Sanders doesn't make it, you will have to vote for another democrat stooge; how does that make you feel? Don't you understand by following Hartmann and accepting the illegal Venezuelan sanctions imposed by Obama in 2015 using the excuse that Venezuela was a threat to "national security", you are actually working for the interests of Charles Koch? I wouldn't be surprised if Hartmann was on the payroll of Koch Industries. I bet you are one of those imbeciles that believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Hartmann must relish the opportunity to propagandize such cretins.
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  4. In one voice Hartmann promotes the US coup in Bolivia and in another pushes back against the Monroe Doctrine – can you say hypocrite. What Hartmann does not appear to understand is those currently on the Mexican border are there because of US Imperial intervention in Latin America? Whether it’s a Haitian president that no longer plays ball with Washington and needs to be assassinated, or some country with natural resources that need to be liberated, Hartmann’s CIA will always be on the job. Remember, the CIA either implements a coup to overthrow an elected leader allowing Washington death squads to terrorize the population, or the establishment invokes (Biden-Obama) sanctions on countries (e.g. Venezuela, Lebanon, Syria, etc. etc) that kill hundreds of thousands and then fools and liberal shills like Hartmann are left "wondering" why there are desperate people on the border. Remember after the Haitian earthquake when the Haitian activist Dahoud Andre said, "The Clinton family, they are crooks, they are thieves, they are liars," After decades of watching the Democrat's propensity to intentionally fail for power and profit, this is no surprise. And then we see Biden border guards whipping colored people on the border as if the US has returned to pre-Civil War days of plantation owners and slaves. Just remember the words of Biden, "If you don't vote for me, then you ain't black", or the about turn of Harris after the election, "Don't come to the US"; and you may begin to appreciate the liberal scam. And the more intelligent Hartmann viewer (oxymoron) may even begin to understand the treachery and manipulation in the whole liberal "Identity Politics" scam. And after all of this Hartmann will tell you to before the next election - “Vote Blue no Matter Who”; do you ever feel like a sucker? "Only America Can Solve the Border Crisis" – LMAO
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  5. And Hartmann continues his scam of pretending to throw his rotten tomatoes at the fool and court jester Trump; all the time missing the biggest story in the land. Hartmann has spent considerable time pushing the threat of the GOP appointing “conservative” judges. In this I would have to agree with Hartmann; this threat to actual democracy is very real and a corporate judiciary is slowly killing democracy with a death of a thousand cuts. So why has the Democratic confirmations of the recent Trump judicial appointments conveniently gone unnoticed by Hartmann? Could it be because all the Democratic senators (except for 4) confirmed Trump’s choices? Could it be because the Democrats and Republicans are working for the same interests? Maybe Hartmann just doesn’t want to rock the boat? By now, even the most pathetic rube must understand US politics is a complete scam. Actors have been recruited into both parties over the years, and both parties are working in unison for the benefit of their plutocratic masters. Their goal is to screw the people out of their democracy. Hartmann continues to denigrate Trump, but why doesn’t he ever discuss what options are available to the people. The answer is simple; he can’t give alternatives because with the obvious treachery of the Democratic Party, there aren’t any. Hartmann has to wait until the last minute and in the confusion of panic, he will plead for you to vote Democrat; not to stop Trump, but to give false legitimacy to a corrupt system. That’s his job; that’s how he earns his money.
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  6. Thomas, don't you think your treachery is getting a little obvious. I hope you are being well reimbursed for your sleaze: https://theintercept.com/2018/07/08/msnbc-does-not-merely-permit-fabrications-against-democratic-party-critics-it-encourages-and-rewards-them/
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  7. ​ @Geopolitic157  : I will have to agree to disagree about Roosevelt. In my opinion, you are confusing Roosevelt's intent with the actual outcome of the New Deal; maybe you too are falling for the engineered popularity of Roosevelt and the media propaganda of the time. At that time, the Socialist and Communist movements along with unions pushed through their demands that resulted in the New Deal with threats of rebellion. Forget about the state sanctioned history you learned in school, this fact is clear in any credible history book. Remember, state history is written by the victors and forced upon the population; you have to go searching for the truth. And as for the Democratic Party, it has been a scam since inception. It would have been far more credible if it still supported segregation instead of the "Third Way" New democrat Wall Street Liberal scam it is now running. George Keegan showed Liberalism to be a scam in his 1948 memo, “Furthermore, we have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population . . . .” Maybe if Senator Robert Byrd was still alive he could give you some answers on the real intent of the Democratic Party. And as for Smedley Butler, I would have to consider your criticism as credible. Yes, in his early days Butler was well aware he was a "Gangster for Wall Street" who operated on three continents, but this appeared to change over time. He appeared to start his career as an ideologue but the reality he saw in what he was asked to do in many countries in the name of Capitalism appeared to change his thinking. So why would Butler wind up fighting for the interests of the people and betrayed the oligarchs of the day instead of aligning himself with the oligarchs and ensuring his half a million volunteers were successful in taking over the government under his direction? Remember, because of his open hostility to US imperialism Butler, was overlooked for the role of Commandant of the Marines Corps. This was no surprise but definitely a disappointment. Do these history books where you get your "facts" comment on the coup to overthrow the Roosevelt administration just after the New Deal? Do they explain how Roosevelt allowed these oligarchs behind the coup to go free without any prosecution for treason? Maybe this may indicate where Roosevelt's true loyalties lay. So be careful idealizing so-called icons of history lionized by the corporate media of the day. Corporate media has always been a tool to aid the strategy of the oligarchs, “You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war.” There are still many questions to history where no facts are available so sometimes you just have to join the dots.
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  8. ​ @Geopolitic157  : As for your remaining narrative on Neoliberalism and Friedman, I would have to agree. The Democratic Party screws the people covertly and the Republican Party screws the people overtly. But when you get to Austrian economics imported into the US in the late 1930s by the Roosevelt Foundation and set up at the University of Chicago; that's when the real deception began in earnest. Yes, when the Rockefellers bought Ludwig von Mises to the US, that was the beginning of the end. Roosevelt saw how well Austrian economics screwed the working class in Europe and decided to try the scam in the US. Every economic and most political atrocities imposed on the people today can be traced back to that event. US foreign Imperialism started in the nineteenth century, but that act by the Rockefeller Foundation was the actual start of Neoliberalism. Take a look at the doctrine of Austrian economics and you will find Neoliberalism as a subset; and the oligarchs American Liberty League created to push back against the New Deal was part of the origin of today's Libertarian Movement. So when viewed in this light, it is not surprising to find the Austrian/Libertarian Kochs actually funded the Clinton-Gore Democratic Leadership Council. Yes, the funder of the Libertarian movement funded the New Democrats "Third Way". It's also not surprising to see from this how the Democratic Party completed its transition into a full blown tool of Wall Street to deceive the people. And you appear to be placing a lot of hope in Bernie Sanders? I'm not saying it’s not justifiable; what I am saying is the system will not allow a true "progressive" to take a substantial role in the current oligarchy. I'm interested in watching how Ocasio-Cortez tests the system and what the oligarchs' response is to the threat. Remember, the US is a one party "democracy" and any variation to that theme is a threat to the oligarchs. You can call yourself Democrat; you can call yourself Republican; what you can't call yourself is anti-oligarchy and democratic. I believe the late, great George Carlin explains it most accurately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzZ8Ypc52-o
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  9. ​ @Geopolitic157  : Sadly I see very little hope for the future. Yes, there is a slim hope a real "progressive" could slip through the oligarchs net but what happens then. The establishment would just isolate them and when you have the power to be able to mold public opinion from a majority focused on gossip and reality television, it's not that difficult. We live in a time when speculation and opinion trumps facts. Now I'm not defending Trump but maybe you should consider the depth of deception that surrounds the nation. Yes, Trump is a fool and a clown but he is NOT running the government or policy. Trump is just a puppet, a tool of deception and a target for ridicule. Why do you think a Wrestling Promoter and Game Show Host was selected by the oligarchs? Trump is selling spin, running a scam, and taking orders from the oligarchs just as Obama, Bush and so many others before him. The families that run the Empire are intentionally hidden and we only see their intent through the actions of their puppets and minions. Think about it; Trump can't assemble a sentence without notes or an Autocue. If he ever tries to ad lib, the result is incoherent and reflects the ranting of a petulant child. So how could anyone seriously think Trump, someone whose IQ is less than their shoe size, runs something as complex as the US government? As so many have said before; Trump is just a symptom of a corrupt system and not the cause. So when you understand how the puppet Trump has been isolated within the administration and is only a mannequin used to sell the oligarchs' message; consider what awaits Sanders should he find himself in the Oval Office. If Sanders actually started working for the people, it would be interesting to watch how the oligarchs attempted to subvert Sanders while maintaining the illusion of democracy, but with the help of their propagandistic media and with the help of an apathetic population focused on gossip and the latest trend, I'm sure they would find a way. So, by now you must appreciate it is easy to acknowledge that the people do get the government they deserve. But as you said it is more than just the current voters; it's the next and following generations that must be considered. I agree with Chomsky; the two realm threats are Anthropogenic Climate Change and the repercussions of Nuclear War. The West may be able to avoid Nuclear War, but human ignorance, apathy and the oligarchs' blinkered greed will most likely doom future generations on a planet growing more hostile every decade. So with the current oligarchical structure designed to monitor and control the population, what can the average person do? The oligarchs have commissioned their minions to create a Global surveillance system that would put the Stasi to shame; the police have been militarized and the NDAA Section 10.21 has removed the first and sixth amendments. One could continue discussing the rubber-stamp FISA court to override rights and the government's Fusion Centers to coordinate data from the alphabet agencies but as one continues to analyze, more information just becomes redundant. So the Jefferson option "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." can no longer be applied. I'm not sure where to go from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2gO4DKVpa8&t=10s
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  10.  @keirfarnum6811  : I hope I've been more successful than just "Try". Given the facts I presented, I hope I've succeeded.
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  11. 00:01 “How have the Republicans for the last forty years gotten working class to vote against their economic self interests?” You expect those who have experienced Bill’s NAFTA, Bill’s destruction of Social Security, Bill’s deregulation of Wall Street and Hillary’s Wall Street double speak to accept this fraudulent question without challenge. It wasn’t the Republicans who were effective at getting some in the voting public to vote for the GOP; it was the treachery of the Democratic Establishment. And even a paid Wall Street shill like youself must admit Obama’s “Hope and Change” followed by a term of complete inaction with a final “Look forward, don’t look back” and “We tortured some folks”, must have been the last straw for many. But Biden won’t have to worry about being exposed as a fraud like Obama, as it looks like the Democrats have lost the Senate. Isn’t that convenient for Biden, as unlike Obama in his first term, Biden can hide now his treachery behind a reasonable and deceptive “It was the Republicans” argument for inaction? If your viewers are really asking this insipid question that exposes their own political ignorance, all I can say is the given the corruption of the Democratic elite and their forty year oppression of the working class; given that Trump promised “Drain the Swamp”, “No more Wars”, “Bring the Troops Home”, and Bring the Jobs Home” just after Hillary and Obama had made a failed state of Libya with open slave markets; given that the Democratic Establishment has rejected the interests of the people (e.g. Medicare for All) since the Koch funded Clinton-Gore Democratic Leadership council, I can understand why some voters would have selected Trump just on speculation and the off-chance he may have been genuine. People voted for Trump because their options were extremely limited and they took a chance.
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  12. Thomas, have you ever considered actually discussing “Liberal” policy with your audience instead of this continual speculative rant of engineered fear and hate designed to distract? Discussing such irrelevant tripe as Trump going to a hospital appears totally irrelevant in today’s economic policy void. The relevant democratic and policy issues you could be discussing are endless, but for some reason you just don’t want to go there. Have you ever noticed how this “impeachment” has intentionally sucked all the oxygen out of the room for those who can avoid manipulation and actually think independent of their emotions? By continually pushing the fake “Russiagate” or “Impeachment”, and avoiding the real issues (e.g. Bipartisan Corruption), you appear to be putting considerable effort into manipulating “the Deplorables” in your audience. But now that Clinton’s “Russiagate” scam has faded into convenient obscurity, I expect “Impeachment” is the only distractive game in town. I can only assume those who are actually capable of independent and unemotional thought are now totally disgusted and are watching this show disappear in their rear-view mirror. So why are you avoiding any discussion of the failing democratic process engineered by the apolitical plutocrats? Why is churning irrelevant narratives to distract their audience now a bipartisan agenda in most of contemporary politics and the media?
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  13. Hartmann speaks as though Canada was an independent and sovereign nation. Understand the "Head of State" of Canada is Queen Elizabeth II; and it not a "ceremonial" role. Just watch the video of Trudeau's inauguration as he prostrates himself when paying homage to Queen Elizabeth II as he takes his oath of office. History has shown that a sovereign nation doesn't have a foreign "Head of State" as their "Head of State"; Canada is just a vassal to foreign interests. Like in most vassal states; the plutocrats own the media, the people vote for foreign owned puppets, and the direction of its policies are dictated to by foreign interests.
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  14. Remember, it's Hartmann's job to protect and sell the US Empire! Hartmann pushed for the prosecution of Julian Assange, backed Obama's claim that Venezuela was a threat to US "National Security" so sanctions could be applied, backed the CIA coup ousting Evo Morales, and the list just keeps on going. It appears that Hartmann is working for the interests of US oligarchs like Elon Musk who said, "We'll coup whoever we want; deal with it".
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  15. I've always thought there is a limit to the aggregate intellect of a population, below which actual democracy is impossible. If a population becomes so gullible they will fall for the oligarchs' mainstream propaganda lock stock and barrel, the only remaining option is Oligarchy.
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  16.  @1m2rich  : And after Biden gets inaugurated, the same oligarchs will be in charge. The only difference is the oligarchs will have a different puppet in the Oval Office. The puppet may have been tasked to create the illusion of choice and difference, but when it comes to the interests of the oligarchs, and as Biden said himself to Wall Street, "Nothing will change". But you should be ready for a heavy dose of "Identity Politics" to create the illusion of change in the minds of the rubes. Don't you understand, this is just the old Good-Cop/Bad-Cop routine and it's the people who are getting scammed.
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  17. Does Supporting Trump Work for Working People? NO, But the Republicans have never worked for the interests of Workers. Does Supporting a Democratic Candidate (Apart from AOC, Omar, Pressley, & Tlaib) Work for Working People? DEFINITELY NOT! So the choice offered to the worker is a party that only works for the interests of Wall Street (Republican); and a party (Democratic) that pretends to work for the interests of Workers, works for the interests of Wall Street and its only real purpose is to ensure a real Progressive never sits in the Oval Office.
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  18. @Temporary Account - “Vote Blue No Matter Who” - There is no answer; the majority understand that politics and the electoral process in the US is a scam. That's why the majority don't vote.
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  19. @Temporary Account - I understand what you are saying, but please remember, the "War on Terrorism" wasn't meant for those in the caves of Afghanistan that were eventually recruited to destroy Libya and Syria. As those who were protesting the Keystone XL pipeline quickly learned, it was designed for those who may compromise the interests of the plutocrats in the ongoing class war triggered by the Powell Memorandum in the 1970s. There is a reason Bush began removing the rights (privileges) of the people; there is a reason terrorist legislation was introduced; there was a reason for the NDAA that consecutive presidents continue to sign; there is a reason the corporate government has a surveillance system that would put the Stasi to shame; there is a reason for a militarized and aggressive police; and there is a reason Obama removed Posse Comitatus that prevented the government using the military for domestic operations. The plutocrats have thought this through carefully and have implemented a covert system of oppression just waiting to be triggered. And always remember the words of Rahm Emanuel, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.” No - It will not be pretty.
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  20. @Temporary Account : People are now beginning to learn the hard way that today's fascist governments only work for their owners (the plutocrats) while they extract wealth and impoverish the majority and wage wars and sanctions on foreign nations for profit. It's no coincidence the death toll from the more socialist countries was low while the death toll in fascist NATO countries has been devastating. Soon people will start awakening to the reality of the Fourth Reich!
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  21. @Temporary Account : The USPS is one of the few institutions one could potentially describe as socialist in the US, and the Neoliberals and Libertarians are even trying to privatize that institution. The ignorance of your USPS carrier beggars belief. She could be one of those older individuals who still suffers from the remnants of McCarthyism. The old deceptions of the "Socialist" dictator and the Cold War are beginning to fade and there is a new generation emerging. Maybe that will make a difference.
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  22. @Temporary Account : I was going to say that maybe it's not that she likes Trump, but that she hated the corruption and hypocrisy of the Democratic establishment. But on reflection, it appears she is just one of those Libertarian rubes embedded in the Austrian-Libertarian cult that switches off their discriminatory skills and blindly watch Ron Paul and read Mises Institute propaganda. The Austrian-Libertarian cult is exactly the same and a mirror image as the Democratic cult; both have been designed to be all-encompassing propaganda machines and it's very hard to break through. One has as much chance of stopping someone in the Libertarian cult from watching the Ron Paul Liberty Report or something similar backed by Charles Koch and the John Birch Society, as one has asking someone embedded in the Democratic cult from listening to MSNBC and Rachael Maddow. And both Democrats and Republicans have been critical of government. When Clinton was elected, he said, "This is the end of Big Government" and then went on to deregulate, privatize, crush social security and offshore jobs. When the Republicans were elected (Reagan), they said "The Government was the problem", but it meant the same thing. And Clinton just finished what Reagan couldn't. The plutocrats want to remove the voice of the people and the best way of achieving that is by crushing the people's elected government and building up the plutocrats' private government. That certainly have achieved that goal. So I can understand your delivery person even if I don't agree with her reasoning, but she should learn how to join the dots. The plutocrats love turmoil and fear; they use it to divide and conquer. The more fear you can create in the minds of the rubes, the narrower their tunnel-vision becomes, the more fearful they become, and the easier they are to control.
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  23. @Temporary Account : Sadly, both "allowable" political parties work for the interests of the plutocrats and fear generation within the people is intentional and bipartisan. These parties are so interconnected and complicit in their treachery against the American people, I usually just call them the Republicrats. While Pelosi is ripping up Trump's speech at the State of the Union, she is giving the Republicans everything they want. They are nothing more than Hollywood actors scrutinized prior to the election by the plutocrats' fascist agencies (e.g. FBI & CIA). If you get a chance, may I suggest you read the article, "The Democratic Party and the political origins of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez" from the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS); not the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) that has now been co-opted by the corrupt Democratic establishment. Pay special attention to, “The intelligence agencies are careful to ensure that nobody acquires a position of government power who is not completely reliable on questions of imperialist foreign policy and statecraft.”
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  24. I'm glad to hear Hartmann word his phrase as, 01:38 "If US democracy is 'shown' to be a farce". The word "shown" saves Hartmann as we all know democracy in the US is a total farce, but there is an army of rubes that still haven't worked out the scam and just keep on voting for the lesser evil and hoping for change that will never come. So it appears Hartmann is again going down another "Russiagate" path; Hartmann hasn't learned from the multiple reports that have clearly shown his Russiagate never existed. But that never stopped corporate liberals like Hartmann as the scam of Russiagate was very effective at slinging mud on Tulsi Gabbard when she exposed the truth about the CIA operation "Timber Sycamore" in Syria; Jill Stein, who was jailed when she attempted to be involved in a three-way party debate, and even Bernie in his last days of his campaign. Yes, the Democratic establishment used Russiagate to drive the last nail in Bernie's political coffin. Well, they tried the anti-feminist label but most realized Warren was lying; and they even tried the antisemitic label but Bernie is actually a Jew ( a bit embarrassing). So all they had remaining for a smear was Hartmann's Russiagate and it did appear to have some effect. But I really think the scam of Russiagate has been exhausted to the point where it will no longer induce fear in the rubes. Just as the majority now laughs at McCarthyism, people will eventually laugh at Russiagate and remember the blame-all Putin legacy of Hartmann.
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  25. You are speaking of something that isn't in Hartmann's interest to bring to the fore. Remember Hartmann's job is to maintain the status quo on behalf of the plutocrats; to promote the Liberals owned by Wall Street, and to ensure the people continue selecting between the "lesser of two evils". Yes, Hartmann's job is to ensure that either the fascist Liberals or the fascist Republicans remain in power. I am using the Mussolini definition of fascist - the mergence of corporation and state. Progressiveism plays no part in the ideology of the plutocrats that pay Hartmann for comment. The only time you will hear "progressive" mentioned is when Hartmann is attempting to expand his audience base; sometimes he uses the word "progressive" to distort his own political footprint.
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  26. Thomas, I too would like to direct the blame for Neoliberalism towards one person but that is fallacious; Neoliberalism is bipartisan. And always remember, it had very little to do with the hired Hollywood puppet Reagan; it was the plutocrats that actually screwed the American people. Remember, it was Don Reagan of Bear Sterns, the 66th United States Secretary of the Treasury (1981 - 1985) and White House Chief of Staff (1985 - 1987) who was Reagan’s minder. It was Don Regan who made sure that Alzheimer Reagan stuck to the plutocrats' script. The same can’t be said for Thatcher; she knew exactly what she was doing. And don't forget the Democrat's contribution when they came to power. Bill Clinton and the Democrats “Third Way” did irreparable damage to the labor market, social security, and regulatory environment when they frequented the White House. The Republicans could only dream of the results achieved by the Democratic Party as these policies were sold to the people by the plutocratic puppet Bill Clinton so carefully selected for his ability to manipulate. Yes, the transition did start after the Powell Memorandum with Reagan who started the real transition to Neoliberalism, but the Democratic Party turbocharged the deception using the multitudes that believed the Democrats actually worked for the Main Street. Thomas, you have to understand with the current and upcoming technologies, the plutocrats don't need to exploit as many people. And you can't just leave the growing lower classes to revolt against the system; so the best option is eugenics. Now don't be surprised; eugenics and selective sterilization have been used widely before in the US. Where do you think the Nazis got the idea for their eugenics program? Yes, eugenics flourished in the US up ‘till the end of WW2 and then this method of herd thinning appeared to go out of fashion as the economy boomed in the 1950s and 60s. If you get a chance, have a look at the 1934 movie “Tomorrow’s Children”; it’s a real eye-opener, and it does explain some of the inherent malleability, acceptance and complacency of the American people. Today, the plutocrats see the only politically acceptable way to reduce the population is by, what I call economic sterilization. The plutocrats can slaughter a few in their Imperial Wars for profit and a few may die from limited “access” to healthcare, but the most effective way to thin the herd is to destroy their future. Create an economic environment where the young are saturated in debt and incomes are crushed with the labor market so the future is precarious, and you have a formula for reducing the population. Humans are fundamentally driven by instinct, but they will usually not reproduce if they see no future for their progeny.
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  27. Sure, you can have mandatory voting but that's only forcing the people to vote for one of the two oligarch owned puppets on the ballot. Remember the two quotes of the famous politician William M. Tweed, “I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating” and “I don't care a straw for your newspaper articles; my constituents don't know how to read, but they can't help seeing them damned pictures”. What you need to do is educate the population so they understand the democracy in the US is just a scam. The only candidates allowed in the oligarchs’ race controlled by the oligarchs are owned by the oligarchs. The oligarchs exploit the ignorance and stupidity of the cretins who vote; the fools just swinging from one side to the other, running away from the latest political manipulation intended to herd them in a direction beneficial to the oligarchs’ interests. Sadly, increasing the participation by mandatory voting may not help and could even aggravate the plight of the American people. All you will be doing is reaching further into the barrel to get an apple when the whole barrel of apples is rotten. Thomas, instead of taking dollars to perpetuate the corrupt system, do your audiences a real favor; teach them about the real atrocity of US politics. It’s not Trumps obvious shortcomings or the psychopathy of the Republican Party, it’s not the treachery of the Democratic Party and the DNC that continually strategizes to betray their constituents; the real treachery of US politics is the system itself. The system owned by the oligarchs, controlled by the oligarchs, and designed to only benefit the oligarchs while maintaining Potemkin normalcy. But the cracks are showing.
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  28.  @rogerthat5459  : "Lies My Teacher Told Me" is an excellent read; however, it exposes only a drop in the bucket of treachery.
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  29. It's not only the "Right" that hurls blame on Pelosi for her many transgressions against the American people; just look at her approval rating; it's lower than Trump's. Yes, actual Progressives (I don't mean the Fake Progressives like Hartmann) blame Pelosi for screwing the American people. Hartmann understands the Democratic Party is where Progressivism goes to die; that's why he pushes the fake Progressive Caucus including the fake progressive Mark Pocan, the fake ex-United States Secretary of Labor Tom Perez, and the fake ("We're all capitalists now") Pelosi. So why do Hartmann's viewers find this immutable truth so difficult to swallow?
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  30. The caller and Pocan believe saying Beto O'Rourke is like Barack Obama is giving him a compliment; this just shows the corrupt character of Pocan setting Hartmann’s audience up to vote for another oligarch puppet. The caller may just be another ignorant Obama sycophant but if Pocan has any morals, he should know better. I wonder if O'Rourke would also be another oligarch puppet taking advice from Citi Group on which Wall Street democratic subversives to install in his administration; would O'Rourke take a position knowing full well he is going to work for the interests of the oligarchs and then have the audacity to run on "Hope and Change"? If O'Rourke had any integrity, he should be insulted by the comparison to Obama.
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  31. Don't you understand that Private Health Insurance is just a bipartisan scam to aid the corporations in extracting wealth from a gullible population? There is nothing like the threat of suffering or death to make people hand over their hard-earned cash. It's the same as the Military Budget, or bailing out Wall Street, or subsidies to corporations; it's just a transfer of wealth to the plutocrats and their corporate minions. And doesn't it work well. Don't wait until you're living in a Cardboard Box before you start asking questions.
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  32. And don't be that stupid as to believe you can vote your way out of the problem of exploitation.
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  33. The breaking up of families by the Trump administration is a free kick for the Corporate Democrats. It is sad to see these scammers who continue this fake left-right paradigm to keep the fools amused while both parties screw the American people on behalf of the oligarchs. Sure, the Corporate Democrats will create the illusion they will screw you a little less, but that’s just a ploy to keep you on the continuous swinging political pendulum where ignorance and apathy are the driving forces. Take for example when Hartmann says the billionaire class has effectively won. What Hartmann fails to explain is the richest person on the planet describes himself as a Democrat and many more billionaires in the “elite”, “Hollywood”, and “Silicone Valley” class who consider themselves Democrats. It’s just another example of keep the ignorant fools confused and you can steer them wherever you want. Notice now Perez rapidly locked into the most recent minority disaster so he doesn’t have to tackle the hard issues. Even Perez went down the MSNBC-Maddow road of “collusion with the Russian government” so he doesn’t have to answer the awkward questions. This Clinton construct has been fabricated to give an easy answer to awkward questions, (How did Trump ever get elected), which is rapidly failing the ongoing scrutiny. Soon this will only be a transient smirk on Maddow’s face very few will understand. The standard tactic of both the Republicans and Corporate Democrats (Republicrats) is - please look over there while we bugger you. So let’s see how many minority issues we can count during Perez’s interview to keep your attention while the real issues go unaddressed. Yes, I heard the obvious children being separated from their parents, and the women’s reproductive rights, going after labor unions, the Muslim ban, voter suppression, and an imbalance in the Supreme Court. Yes, all very important but you need to look past this to the mechanisms the oligarchs implement to disable a democracy. The oligarchs may reduce some of these (Superdelegates) to give the illusion of more democracy, but they have many levers remaining to compromise the will of the people. And when Perez says, “we have to lead with our values”, notice how these values and other relevant issues are never discussed. Consider the “going after Labor Unions”; how many realize that Clinton (Bill) did much more to shatter the union movement than the Kochs’ “Citizens United” ever did. Hartmann, maybe you should setup a debate between this deceptive scum Perez who continues the extend-and-pretend and Thomas Frank and let’s see some relevant issues put on the table. If I was to be cynical, I might suggest there is bipartisan deception going on just to keep this divide-and-conquer scam going. Notice how both Democrat and Republican always side with the corporate sector; the same pro oligarch policies introduced by Bush continued through the Obama administration and those oligarch policies introduced in the Obama administration continue into the Trump administration. All Trump is doing is accelerating what the Republicrats started during the Reagan-Thatcher era and these in turn were ongoing through the Clinton, Bush and Obama eras. Yes, the health of children is important but you must get past that as it's a basic propaganda tactic. Have you ever wondered why the propaganda out of Syria always shows children in distress? It’s simple propaganda 101; human beings have great difficulty with the suffering of children. It’s used because it works. If you ever looked at the Syrian footage, you would believe there were no adults in the conflict, only children. Sad when you consider the half a million Iraqi children under five years old who died at the hands of the Clinton beloved Madeline Albright, but you will rarely hear that discussed on the MSM and you will never see any videos of the atrocity on the MSM. It’s time to realize the Republicrat scam for what it is – pure deception while the oligarchs steal your lives.
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  34. The greatest threat to the people is the political scam of both parties being owned by Wall Street and working together covertly behind the scenes to screw the people. The choreography in this political bipartisan show is starting to become very predictable.
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  35.  @georgefurman4371  : I agree; the Libertarian movement was founded on breaking up Roosevelt's New Deal. The precursors to the Libertarian movement created institutions like the American Liberty League to disassemble the New Deal. Ever since, institutions like the John Birch society have been pushing Libertarian (Austrian Economics) theories into government and this culminated in Reagan. But also remember how Clinton finished what Reagan started. Also remember, that the heart of Austrian Economics in the US was the Koch Brothers (Now just Charles Koch) and Charles Koch funded the Clinton-Gore "Third Way" Democratic Leadership Council. So behind the scenes, these two treacherous groups work covertly to screw the people. When Pelosi is tearing up Trump's speech and throwing fake barbs at Trump while passing everything on the Trump (Koch) Administration's wish list, you should be asking some serious questions. So be careful with the assumption, "The DNC let's remember is a collaborationist party" as this " collaborationist party" continues to move the Overton window to the right. I much prefer to consider the words of Warren Buffet, "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning." and if things progress even further, one should listen to the prophetic words of Zbigniew Brzezinski when he discusses what can be done with the rising political awakening of the population, “To put it bluntly: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.”
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  36.  @SocratesOnline  : It's corporate Hartmann's job and the job of the mainstream media to continue the status quo; Hartmann's job is to ensure the rubes continue to vote Democrat. Hartmann is only "Controlled Opposition" tasked to complain about the oppression of the working class while ensuring that same working class always votes Democrat, again the maintain the plutocrats' control. This is why it was somewhat surprising to hear Hartmann admit elements of the truth about Bill Clinton when he lied and protected Clinton's legacy in the past. But then Hartmann reverted to his old self and went on to lionize and lie about the legacy of the war criminal Obama. Understand it's Hartmann's job to protect the plutocrats and their empire; as their empire is the real reason for the oppression of so many domestically and in foreign lands. This is why you saw Hartmann push Clinton's Russiagate to cover up the content of the Podesta emails; this is why you saw Hartmann initially criticize Assange for exposing crimes of empire; this is why you saw Hartmann protect the aggression of empire in Latin America (e.g. Bolivia) and the Middle East; and this is why you no longer see real progressives like Chris Hedges on this channel.
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  37.  @SocratesOnline  : And when it comes to Hartmann telling you 05:42 “And Obama did restore the reputation of our country after 8 years of torturers – Bush & Cheney”, always remember when Obama was asked about prosecuting the war criminals for the crimes of empire (e.g. torture), he said, "Look forward, not back". Combine that with his statement at Flint, Michigan "Can I have some water", and it should explain so much about the lies of Hartmann and of US politics, and how the politicians are nothing more than puppets of the corporate plutocratic empire.
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  38.  @SocratesOnline  : And never forget it was Obama that ordered the CIA "Torture" emails destroyed to remove any possibility the Bush war criminals being prosecuted. It certainly must be a lousy time in history to be a war mongering and hypocritical Liberal; pretending to believe all that exporting "Freedom & Democracy" garbage to kill and torture those in foreign lands for profit. And Hartmann will always be there, promoting the killer empire for his plutocratic masters.
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  39. ​ Bob Pen  : Maybe it's time you stopped LOL long enough to engage your brain. So you voted for Obama hoping for "Hope and Change" and got screwed. So did everyone else who believed in the system and thought Obama was going to keep his campaign promises. The difference between you and them is they are brave enough to acknowledge they got screwed. You should have got a hint Obama was going to screw you when he bailed on Wall Street prosecutions and recruited City Group executives into his administration at the request of City Group. You should have had some idea you were getting screwed when the Democrats held the house and senate for the first term and Obama remained impotent. You should have understood you were going to get screwed when Obama said “Don’t look back” and admitted he was a moderate Republican while imperial wars expanded and no significant Wall Street criminal ever saw the inside of a Prison. Embedded in you pathetic grammar of a double negative resides some actual truth. When you said, "Obama couldn't do nothing for America", you are actually correct. If Obama, "couldn't do nothing", he "must have been able to do something". So forget about the Democratic scam of blaming "white supremacist senators"; they may well be white supremacist senators, but Obama screwed his constituents to benefit his contributors all on his own; well, with the help of his City Group cohorts. You should be asking questions about why the Democrats continually push their "Identity Politics" to create the illusion of difference and when Democrat after Republican gets installed in the role of puppet president and nothing actually changes. If you can actually engage your brain instead of heading off into a mindless rant, one day you may even understand both parties work for many of the same plutocrats. My advice to you is dump the plutocratic shill Hartmann and look elsewhere for your facts. One day Hartmann is attempting to convince his meager and misinformed audience he is a progressive and the next day he is pushing for Venezuelan intervention that would make Bolton proud.
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  40. Devil Zion: Jimmy Dore - but why preach to the converted? I understand Hartmann is a fraud. That's why I put some effort into educating the rubes that watch this channel. But some are so scatter brained, it's sometimes difficult to get through to functioning neuron. And I understand it's not just Hartmann that's on the Katzenberg payroll; there are a number of shills for corporate America on YouTube working to maintain the status quo.
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  41.  @thethree60five  If English is your first language, would you mind rewording your comment so that one could follow your reasoning? Politics or soft Corporate Totalitarianism in the US is simple. Yes, the Plutocrats control both parties and only those two parties are allowed to be part of the electoral process. And behind the political stage, both parties collude to scam the voters. Part of that scam is a divide-and-conquer technique used to keep the American people at reach others throats. And Hartmann is part of that scam. That's the reason for Russiagate and so many other scams produced by the Clinton Democratic establishment. Notice how so many like Hartmann talk about the "Podesta Emails", but no corporate outlet (e.g. Hartmann) ever discusses the content of the Podesta Emails as the treachery against the voter over Sanders would shame the Democratic establishment.
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  42.  @thethree60five  If English is your first language, you definitely need some type of help - possibly psychological.
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  43.  @Clusterboy  Russiagate is all BS. There is no proven link between Trump and Russia. Even the tenuous link between Trump and Assange was shown to be false; Assange was never visited in the Ecuadorian Embassy by a Trump representative. It would have shown up on one of the large number of cameras, and the CIA had the place bugged to subvert Assange's defense. It's all contrived to fool rubes like you into a state of fear and anger, so you switch off your brain and believe scammers like Hartmann. I have to admit, this Clinton-Democrat scam has worked exceedingly well; but then again just look at the saturation by the corporate media (e.g. CNN, MSNBC). I'm always amazed how the rubes appear to know the corporate media is corrupt, but they still believe every word they are told by their overlords. Remember, the last thing the plutocrats want is for the left and right to join forces against the plutocracy; and Hartmann is doing everything he can to stop that event from occurring.
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  44. ​ @truthhurts4771  : Correct; the US is, and has always been a LIE. Its history is a lie; its politics is a lie; its rhetoric about exporting "Freedom & Democracy" is a lie. And US Democracy itself is just one big LIE. To put it simply, the US is an imperial fascist state designed to enrich the perpetual oligarchical families of the Empire. The only use it has for its people is to use them for cannon fodder on one of their imperial battlefields, or drown them in debt while it recycles their tax dollars into the wallets of those oligarchical families using such scams as the perpetual wars. One method of laundering taxpayer dollars is through the Military Industrial and Intelligence Complex and private corporations (e.g. Halliburton). The dollars that go to the Military Industrial Complex boost the oligarchs' wealth. These same oligarchs also own the companies that are contracted to "Nation Build" after their imperial destruction when no actual nation building ever occurs. No wonder the Pentagon's books haven't been audited in years. The rubes just sit back and allow all the corruption to wash over them as they watch Rachael Maddow or Hartmann. Yes, the oligarchs’ perpetual imperial wars are one method of impoverishing the American people and there are many others (e.g. Corporate Subsidies). And all the oligarchs require to ensure domestic tranquility is a nation of ignorant, apathetic, and infantilized rubes is enough overt propaganda to ensure these rubes never actually see the reality of the world around them; most couldn’t find Iraq or Venezuela on a map. To keep these rubes in infantilized ignorance, Hollywood movies and a well-reimbursed corrupt corporate media does come in handy. The oligarchs continue to push "Freedom & Democracy" through their propaganda media and entertainment soft power (Hollywood) because they understand that a slave who believes they are free is easier to control. This same self imposed ignorance is what is behind the Liberals' "Trump Derangement Syndrome". The liberals are suffering from what is called "Cognitive Dissonance"; they know that something is wrong with the system but are too scared to look too deeply. Instead they look for easy answers (Trump) served up to them on a silver platter. Keep the rubes at each other’s throats with partisan fake narratives (Russiagate) and the oligarchs are free to screw them six ways from Sunday.
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  45.  @Clusterboy  Sadly, if anyone was able to seriously bring left and right together, they would soon find a FBI rifle scope pointing in their direction. And Hartmann would be there coaxing the target out of the shadows, so the corporate-state assassin could get a clear shot. How quickly these fake-left liberals forget about the FBI's Co-Intel-pro or state-sponsored McCarthyism used to destroy real-left, social, and union movements.
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  46. Bernie does have some moments when he appears to be genuine, and then in other moments he appears to be just another dupe being played by the bipartisan establishment to manipulate the rubes. He may even be complicit in this ongoing "pretend and extend" scam to maintain the status quo; it's hard to tell. The motivations of the lying corrupt idiot Biden or the duplicitous Harris are easy to understand, but with Bernie it's a little more difficult.
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  47. When the psychopath and sociopath plutocrats at the top of the pecking order gain enough wealth and power, they buy and control governments. It’s that simple, and it’s the next fascist totalitarian step in capitalism. They don’t only buy governments, they also buy and consolidate media in both mainstream and the alternate (Hartmann). If the “corporation” is given the same legal status as a person and only considers the “bottom line”, I can’t see any other result. What Thomas is doing with his Trump hysteria is help the plutocrats induce fear into the population; and people focused on a threat won’t be looking behind them as they are stabbed in the back. Fear and empathy are the two best motivators the plutocrats and their minions could ever use and it uses the old Mark Twain quote, “It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled” to stop them asking awkward questions. The plutocrats get their minions to tap the people on the nose to get them where the plutocrats want them to be. It works every time.
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  48.  @robertl.fallin7062  : We can only hope.
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  49. You have to take this on a state-by-state account. For example; in Texas they closed hundreds of polling stations and there were long lines outside the remaining polling stations in Latino areas at the end of voting. The more I watch, the more I see Hartmann's wish come true; Trump looks like he may win. Just imagine Trump using not only Biden's history against him, but just imagine the Alzheimic and ethically challenged Biden with a spurious history (Mandela arrest) trying to defend himself on the stage. Trump may be an imbecilic fool, but even he could make mincemeat of Biden. So the argument is simple; if you want Trump to return and you want to keep Hartmann happy, vote for Biden.
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  50. I think Professor Wolff is a very smart and knowledgeable man, but I don’t believe he understands US politics. What Professor Wolff doesn’t appear to realize is most of Congress, the Senate, and the Judiciary are owned by those plutocrats Warren is targeting with her wealth tax; so without a massive swing, how is this going to get through both houses. Remember, Obama had total control of the house and senate for his first two years until people realized the scam, and no promises were kept. What do you think is going to happen when you target the wealthiest in the plutocracy? You don’t actually believe this one-party (Republicrats) state is a Democracy?
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