Comments by "Animal Farm" (@animalfarm7467) on "Thom Hartmann Program" channel.

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  2. An interesting caller (Nancy) who makes a valid point, “We know there’s something wrong with this country”; “If we are looking for the guilty, we only need to look in the mirror”. It’s always so interesting to watch the Hartmann; so obviously one of the minions of the plutocrats. Watching Hartmann is the best way to understand the current strategies of deception the plutocrats who drive US Empire implement on the people. When you hear Hartmann being critical of the Venezuelan economy and not even mentioning Obama’s classification of Venezuela as a "Threat to US National Security", or the sanctions that have been based on that lie and have devastated that country, you know something’s wrong. When the only comment you hear from Hartmann on the recent Bolivian coup is that Morales shouldn’t have attempted to run for another term. Even though this term had been sanctioned by the Bolivian courts, this was the only point pushed by Hartmann. Not the fact that Morales party members had been tarred and feathered; not the fact that Morales’ family members had been threatened and their houses destroyed; not the fact that the OAS (Organization of American States) and the UN, are just tools of US Empire; and not the fact that Morales got the majority of the vote and it was the military that had told Morales to “Leave”. Of course Hartmann wouldn’t feel responsible for any of this US imperial devastation; he is just another tool of Empire who continues to push US "exceptionalism". Remember, the Third Reich with their Lebensraum and their Aryan superiority also believed they were exceptional. Now Hartmann, working for the interests of the Fourth Reich, continues the work of Goebbels. Wasn't it Hartmann pushing for Clinton after she had just devastated Libya and then her ISIS mercenaries gave Gaddafi a bayonet enema after which a clear cackle of "We came, we saw, he died" came from the mouth of Hartmann's political idol. Yes, Hartmann is truly a tool of Empire and it makes me sad when I see a genuine person (Nancy) with genuine questions about the plutocratic system behind Empire, confessing her genuine thoughts to a minion of the plutocrats.
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  10. We all know the Republicans are corrupt; after all, everyone understands it was the plutocrats (e.g. Charles Koch) behind the Republicans that implemented "Citizens United" through the American Legislative Exchange Council to buy politicians. But what is a traitor; usually someone who works covertly to undermine your interests. I would call Trump many things, but covert wouldn't be one of them. Trump's intentions are published every day in all available media. The Capitol police had weeks of warning before windows were broken; they even showed little resistance to the ingression. It’s as if all this was just allowed to happen to scam the people? Traitors act more like "Third Way" Bill Clinton and Gore when they sourced funding for the "Democratic Leadership Council" from that same Charles Koch just before they deregulated Wall Street, crushed Social Security, and implemented NAFTA. So who is the actual traitor; the person who openly tells you they are working against your interests and will screw you at every opportunity; or those who shake your hand, smile, and pretend to work for your interests and then stab you in the back when you are not looking? Notice how Biden just appointed the conservative judge Amy Coney Barrett solidifying a conservative majority on the court. Remember, Barrett was one who was involved in the persecution of Steven Donziger for daring to win a court case against Chevron for polluting the lands of the people in Ecuador. Notice how Biden promises but never delivers; if Biden wanted to, he could deliver on those campaign promises just using the power of the presidency. So who is the real traitor?
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  15. ​ @13thbiosphere  : It really comes down to where your interests lie. It really comes down to what you mean by "crazy". As I said before, I would prefer a return to the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower wasn't "crazy"; the country was wealthy and the people were wealthy. The only difference is there wasn't a plutocratic Reagan puppet in the White House. Since (1980) the plutocrats have been running the government everything has gone downhill; except for the 1%. So what you’re saying is if the people select Bernie, the plutocrats won't like the outcome and so they will not allow this to occur. Is that correct? As I said before, the only non-Wall Street moles in this race are Bernie and Gabbard; everyone else has Wall Street interests. Yes, even your "magnificent" Yang is a Wall Street mole hoping to grow rich from his treachery like Hillary. Your language is interesting. When you say, "yang would be able to persuade most billionaires to share wealth and maintain civilization", you have said a mouthful. Let's pull this apart and take the first part: "yang would be able to persuade most billionaires to share wealth". This infers there is no democracy. If you have to "persuade", that means you can't legislate. Now I see why you prefer the US economy post 1980. Let's take the last piece, "and maintain civilization"; how do the plutocrats intend to "end" civilization if they don't get their own way? Do they believe they can use the military and police and shove three hundred million AR15s in the faces of the population? I don't think so! This current plutocratic scam has an end-date and it isn't far away; the metaphorical torches are being lit and the metaphorical guillotines are being sharpened and greased. There's even some who are weaving the metaphorical baskets to catch the heads.
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  20. Most Democratic candidates have some degree of alignment with the corrupt Party; the only candidates who have a modicum of independence are Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. And independent of what Hartmann tells you, Warren is now a tool of the plutocrats. Warren may have racked up some political capital in areas of consumer protection, but now she has been recruited by the plutocrats and is expected to spend that capital in a last ditch effort to nonviolently disable Sanders yet again. If you want to understand what the plutocrats and their minions (Clintons. the DNC, Warren and the rest) have in store for Sanders, just look at the history behind the Jeremy Corbyn campaign. So far Bernie has only been exposed to the anti-Semitic smear and now the sexist smear from Warren, but Corbyn went through all those smears with "Russian asset", "Trotskyite", and "Hungarian spy" thrown in for good measure. Oh wait, I forgot Hillary has already labeled Bernie as a "Russian" asset. If US plutocrats follow the same strategy as those in the UK, you should expect the next attack to be internal. If Bernie looks as though he will win the nomination, I would expect to see some more treachery from within the DNC; possibly a rule change. What concerns me is if Bernie should win the nomination and then look as though he will win the race. The plutocrats have much to lose if Bernie should win the presidency. Bernie will no longer be susceptible to the subtle negative narratives of the plutocrats' minions, media, and shills (Hartmann); he will be an open target. The gloves will be off. Always remember, the actual function of the Democratic Party ( and Hartmann) is to ensure a real Progressive never wins the presidency.
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  21. Will enough voters show up? Honestly, the corrupt Corporate Democratic and Republican establishment hasn’t given the people a good reason to “show up”. I’m just trying to comprehend the pathetic, scared, gullible, and immoral sleaze that would even show up to participate in this obvious scam. You now have the choice between a petulant, ignorant, corrupt cretin (Trump), or an Alzheimic, lying, plagiarizing, finger-banging corrupt right wing corporate fool (Biden); it's like being asked to choose between syphilis and gonorrhea. Democracy in the US is nothing more than a dying horse on the side of the road with four broken legs and bleeding profusely from a gash in its side; why not just put a bullet between its eyes and move on? Be honest with others and especially yourself and admit this whole thing is an elaborate bipartisan scam to create the illusion of democracy while the plutocrats rob the taxpayer blind and treat the working class as if they were livestock. As Biden told Wall Street, “After I’m elected, nothing will change”; at least Biden was unusually honest in that statement. Hartmann, I understand you have been tasked to help keep the establishment going; to keep the fools returning to the polling stations year after year to give this corrupt farce the illusion of legitimacy. But there must be a point where even a minion of the plutocrats like the Rhodes Scholar Maddow or yourself must become disgusted at what they are tasked to do; independent of the amount they are being paid.
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  22. Thomas, just a visit to your site sees you still pushing the left-right false dichotomy down the throats of your audience; still pushing the choice between syphilis and gonorrhea. Thomas, do you expect the Democratic Party to stop working for Wall Street; do you expect these criminals to stop waging imperial wars on innocent foreign lands. Have you noticed how both parties continue to resurrect the war criminals and resell them to the brain dead majority? Not only do these imbeciles forget that Obama started more wars than any president but they appear to have forgotten the atrocities of George W who is now beloved by the Limousine Liberals. Apart from a few allowed electoral anomalies, I see no evidence the Democratic Party and DNC is moving towards reform. I see the same old, “catering to the minorities” to fool the ignorant and appease the sleaze but real, fundamental, grass roots change will never be allowed by the owners of the DNC – the Oligarchs. I will say it again. At least with the Republicans you don’t have to carry out extensive research to know who they work for; you know they will screw the poor to benefit the rich. The Republicans deliver imperialist slaughter of “brown” people in faraway lands with the scowl of John Bolton whereas Obama continues his slaughter with a smile and justifies war crimes with witticism, “We tortured some folks”. This is the Democratic Party; they promise “Home and Change” and continue in foreign lands with resources to slaughter the innocent to benefit the Oligarchs; they continue domestically to deliver the majority into the clutches of the Oligarchs. Maybe that’s where Trump got his idea for his campaign promises. Thomas, I believe you need to widen your analysis to encompass the total reality instead of continually analyzing the minuscule and irrelevant.
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  23. With respect to the term “Conspiracy Theory”, the answer is quite simple: CIA Memo 1967: CIA Coined & Weaponized The Label "Conspiracy Theory" https://steemit.com/history/@thelastheretik/cia-coined-and-weaponized-the-label-conspiracy-theory Remembering how malleable the people were to the words of the oligarchs and their corrupt politicians and their corporate media of the day. This was an easy sell to ignorant fools. With respect to Russiagate; where is the proof. Trumps no Manchurian candidate, he’s just an actor, a fool, and a puppet of the Western oligarchs; like many presidents before him. All I have seen to date is Trump being elected because of a frustrated electorate with no other option other than to elect criminals to office. If Trump does nothing else, he may awaken some to the criminality and façade of Washington. And it appears the Podesta emails may have clinched it for Trump as the people could see how the Clintons and the DNC kneecapped the chances of Bernie Sanders on behalf of the oligarchs. Why didn’t the DNC allow the FBI to interrogate their servers? Why did the DNC insist on using a private company to extract questionable and potentially fabricated data? Again, where is the Russiagate evidence? The only person to be prosecuted to date has been prosecuted for domestic corruption. Russiagate only has two purposes; to give the Democrat Party and DNC some reason to retain some legitimacy in a corrupt system and for Rachael Maddow to keep raking in the dollars while keeping the eyes of the fools glued to MSNBC.
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  25. ​ Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2  : Unlike January the 6th, the 1933 coup against Roosevelt was real; it wasn't just a couple of FBI informers recruited by the FBI to convince a pack of discontented and manipulated rag-tag rubes from southern states to break in to a government building. Everyone knew these petulant discontents were converging on the Capitol and no actions were carried out to stop them - WHY? Even on the day, the Capitol police acted impotent and only one "insurrectionist" was injured (shot) and sadly died? I wonder why no actions were ever attempted to secure the Capitol building? Maybe a temporary security fence may have helped? But those gullible coerced and delusional rubes were allowed to just storm the building? I wonder why? Like the now defunct "Russiagate", January the 6th was designed to distract the people from the treachery around them. That's why it was played up so much by the media. Like Russiagate was designed to stop people asking questions about the Podesta emails and the Democratic establishment's treachery against Bernie, January the 6th was also designed to distract from the fact the Democratic establishment was screwing Bernie yet again. But conveniently no one remembers the Clinton Democratic Party application (the app) used to screw Bernie in the Iowa primaries; no one remembers how the establishment "convinced" all the contenders to drop out so that Biden could crush Bernie with the help of the media. If you ask me, January the 6th was more successful than Russiagate at covering up the treachery of the Democratic establishment against Bernie. Notice how the 1933 coup is never mentioned in history books or the media. Unlike January the 6th, notice how it was carefully designed to seamlessly merge the 500,000 strong military traitors with government functions and slowly subvert the Roosevelt administration undetected until it was too late. This is a long way from the highly publicized rag-tag team of confused Trump supporters scammed into breaking a few windows. But in the 1933 coup it was intended Roosevelt would stay on as a puppet; similar to the role Biden, Trump, or Obama held during their tenure. As for Hartmann's pathetic excuse (because he didn't want to give them publicity) for Roosevelt's inaction; understand that Hartmann is there to sell you on false hope of the Democratic establishment. Hartmann will never intentionally expose the historical treachery of the Democratic establishment; hence the pathetic attempt to cover up Roosevelt's treachery. Hartmann will never admit the Democratic Party is owned and controlled by Wall Street; and Hartmann willingly sells you on the idea that Manchin is the exception and not the rule. And when it comes time to again vote in the next federal election, Hartmann will be pulling out all stops to ensure you vote for the Democratic establishment and maintain Wall Street's status quo. You should be under no illusions about Hartmann; if an anti Wall Street real progressive was ever successful in a primary bid, Hartmann would be pushing you to vote Republican to maintain the status quo. You may wonder why you never see Chris Hedges on this program and now I hope you understand why; even the moderate Thomas Frank appears unwilling to appear after people have absorbed the truths of "Listen Liberal".
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  26. Thomas, you don’t appear to understand both allowable sides of politics are controlled by the oligarchs and both leaders are just puppets of these oligarchs. Take Clinton for example, when she was giving that Dickensian speech, I’m sure she was well aware she was capable of saying “We came, we saw, he died” as her CIA mercenaries shoved a bayonet up Gaddafi’s rectum and killed him while they dragged his dying body in from of the cameras. Throughout her career Clinton knew on which side her bead was buttered, she worked for the oligarchs’ interests in Wall Street and promoted the oligarchs’ foreign wars of aggression for profit and power. This can be seen in the embrace Hillary gave the war monger and criminal Kissinger labeled “inexcusable” in the Nation. Even in her recent run for president she had Madeline Albright speak for her at her rallies. Albright; who justified the slaughter half a million Iraqi children in her sanctions of the early nineteen hundreds, and then attempted to pull the women’s vote by saying, “There is a special place in hell for women who don’t vote for Hillary”. And Thomas, you still appear to still wonder why Trump was able to so easily scam the people and win the election? Thomas, if you wish to work for the interests of the Clintons’ oligarchs, you need to dump Hillary as a source of credibility. You may wish to focus on Obama as his acting talents are far superior to Hillary and some of the more ignorant still believed in Obama right to the end. Apart from a few of these die-hard fools who look at a polarized selective history, Hillary’s contributions to the Corporate Democrat scam do more harm than good. If you wish to grow this ongoing scam deceptively promote Wall Street over Main Street and work for the oligarchs supporting the DNC and the Corporate Democrats, you need a new icon to manipulate the remaining few fools that are still blinded to the reality of the system. So it’s difficult to see why you argue against the torturer (Haspel) when you appear to promote the warmonger (Clinton) and her child murderer (Albright) with impunity. Just a closing piece of advice; in any further promotion of the Corporate Democrats, please don’t use war criminals like Albright and Clinton as their use-by date expired last Millennium.
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  27. Oh! We're still being distracted by the “attempted coup” when so much more is happening right before your eyes. It appears the “attempted coup” is the next “Russiagate” that occurred just in time to distract the rubes from the current Democratic acts against the people by the Biden administration. I also watched some clown politician attempt to blame the “attempted coup” on Putin – LMAO. So while Biden is reneging on the $2000 stimulus and delaying the one-time stimulus itself, Hartmann is still distracting you with this “attempted coup” crap. And now the Democrats didn’t include a minimum wage rise for workers in the bill on a “recommendation” of Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough. But the Democratic establishment doesn’t require any authority from the Senate Parliamentarian to include the minimum wage raise in the bill, as she has no final say in the bill’s content. It appears there is a certain facet of the liberal population willing to sacrifice the majority so they can continue their hypocritical and farcical fealty to liberal values at the expense of everyone else. Could they be Hartmann viewers or could they be Pelosi supporters? Could Hartmann viewers be Pelosi supporters? Given the Democratic scam to screw the workers, Pelosi must be involved somewhere. I'm just waiting for Hartmann to again tell us once more he's a "Progressive". If the US wasn't a plutocracy and puppets like Pelosi weren't the plutocrats’ minions, you could put Pelosi on trial and prosecute her for treason against the American people. Now what was the penalty for treason?
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  28. Hartmann, did I hear you correct; did you agree with the Krugman quote, 01:27 “The way that we bought about progressive democracies across Europe, in South America, in Asia, from Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan; the way we did that was not by force of arms but by way of moral example”. Doesn’t this garbage want to make you heave? Sure the cretins may accept these lies without question but do you want to spend your life manipulating cretins. The only reason for the US involvement in Taiwan was leverage against China; the only reason for the US involvement in South Korea and Japan was to ensure its influence in SE Asia. I never heard you mention anything about the US backed slaughter of a million Indonesians in the transition of Indonesia to a US vassal state. Hartmann, you need to learn the truth from the War Criminal Kissinger who said, “The US has no friends or enemies, only interests’. I’m even amazed how you had the audacity of using the phrase, “bought about progressive democracies” and “South America” in the same sentence. Hartmann you are smarter than that; how much are you getting paid to spin this crap? It won’t be long before I hear Hartmann confirm Venezuela is a serious risk to the “National Security” of the US. At that point, I would be almost convinced Hartmann is working for the interest of the Kochs. Hartmann, you must realize the end of an Empire starts the day it is born. Ever since the two colonies funded by the London Company were created on the East Coast to benefit the European oligarchs of the day, the Empire was simultaneously expanding and dying. Ever since the colonists slaughtered in excess of 20 million Native Americans; ever since a slave owner and child molester (Thomas Jefferson) wrote, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness”; this from a man who enslaved his own children. Well, I think you get the picture. Sadly, most Empires start out as either distortions of the truth or outright lies and there is enough to go around. But what is important is how these lies are introduced to the narrative of the nation. The CIA with Hollywood and the media have done an excellent job of deception but recently this has started to falter. This is where I would have to thank Dick Cheney and the other War Criminals woke many to the real intent of American Empire and Exceptionalism. The intent of American Exceptionalism can be easily found in Wolfowitz’s “Project for a New American Century”. Just after the planes hit the towers and apparently the Pentagon, you could hear the doors closing on the American chapter of the Anglo-American Empire. You could hear it in the lies of Colin Powell as he stood before the World holding a vial of something; the lies of Condasleeza Rice and her “Mushroom Cloud”; the copious lies of Cheney that would run my printer out of ink; that was the end of Empire. So I have to thank those oligarchs behind the curtain who control the tax payer funded military of the Empire for awakening me by watching their military invade a Sovereign Nation for oil, for hegemony, for the Petrodollar, and for the interests of Israel. I would like to thank General Wesley Clark who awakened me to the plan of the oligarchs to invade “Seven Countries in Five Years”, Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran. I see the project isn’t on schedule but it is progressing. So while you listen to deceivers like Hartmann considering the “End of Empire” as a domestic issue, you should consider the tens of millions killed by the US Imperial machine. Hartmann clearly believes in American Exceptionalism and is unconcerned about the involvement of the US in such slaughter. Could Hartmann actually be an Exceptional racist?
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  29. I used to have a lot of time for Amy Goodman. Goodman was once a journalist who exposed the crimes of empire instead of helping to facilitate the crimes. Goodman was a real journalist when she interviewed General Wesley Clark in 2007; now that exposure woke many to the intent and crimes of Empire. When Clark admitted he saw the Pentagon memo showing the Republican and Democrat bipartisan Neocon intent of destroying “Seven Countries in Five Years”, it exposed the whole imperial establishment.   Sadly, the days of a credible Democracy Now and Amy Goodman are now long gone; they have joined their Hartmann counterparts in the bipartisan swamp. Many, once credible journalists have now backslid into the cesspool of imperialism. Both Hartmann and Goodman have indirectly pushed for the ongoing sanctions on Venezuela that have killed at least 40,000 people, and have sent nearly 2 million fleeing the country. Just so the plutocrats and their Empire can acquire the Venezuelan people’s oil and other natural resources. The Empire has already stolen the Venezuelan Oil Company CITGO, and Britain has stolen the gold of the Venezuelan people. And it doesn't stop there; Hartmann and Goodman spent years pushing Russiagate that has now turned out to be a farce. Even the war criminal Hillary had the Iraqi child killer Madeline Albright promote her in the 2016 election campaign. So being a shill of empire isn’t unusual in the US; most understand killing and stealing for profit leads to a successful empire in the short term. It is only now that most realize profits from empire only reside at the top. As the empire fails, we are now watching the plutocrats directly steal the wealth of the people and further expand the inequality. Both Democrat and Republican were complicit in the latest heroic theft from the American taxpayer. As the corruption becomes more apparent, the plutocrats will shift from butchering brown people in far off lands to oppressing their domestic population. Empires implode from within and now the plutocrats are turning their domestic military on the own population to control unrest from oppression, inequality, and servitude. We are now seeing the beginning of the end. It won’t be long before you realize both Hartmann and Goodman are no different than CNN or MSNBC; just more shills of Empire to propagandize the population to benefit the plutocrats in their final gasps of intent to steal the resources of other nations. I’m expecting to see Hartmann or Goodman emulate the mainstream media and have the war criminals Rumsfeld, Cheney, or Bush on their show any day now. There seems to be a profit in recycling war criminals of empire.
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  30. The big question is why does Hartmann continually parade his fake left credentials in front of his audience by bantering Flat-Earth arguments with this Austrian-Libertarian Koch cretin? If Hartmann would only to bother to go to Bernie’s website and download the 1980 Koch Austrian-Libertarian platform titled “What Do the Koch Brothers Want? “, and present that to his audience, they would understand the real intent of the Washington bipartisan Neoliberal movement: e.g. “We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.” “We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.” “We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.” “We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.” “We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.” If the audience would only take the time to read the document on Sander’s website, they would be able to predict the response of Charles Sauer without Chucky ever having to open his mouth. And for that matter, they would also be able to predict the same response from Democrats like Pelosi as well "We are all capitalists now". Instead of this mindless repetitive choreographed ranting that only targets the emotions of the mindless rubes in the audience; the audience could get a comprehensive understanding of the Austrian-Libertarian narrative and some understanding of the Republican-Democrat Neoliberalism corporate end game. Instead of playing this Good-Cop/Bad-Cop routine, or as in Hartmann’s and Sauer’s case Bad-Cop / Worse-Cop, maybe Hartmann could interview someone with audience credibility; again, Chris Hedges or Bernie Sanders come to mind. So why does Hartmann continue with this periodic Sauer charade? Is it only to stimulate and take advantage of the emotionally challenged; those who have long ago lost their analytical skills?
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  32. ​ @rittherugger160 : I have a problem with a "single agenda point" when it comes to a complex issue. Even if the oligarchs allow Buckley vs. Valeo and Citizens United to be overturned, it is only because they have devised a far more effective mechanism to keep the delusional public voting for their interests in this Democratic farce. You need to understand, even though this Democratic process is a farce, it is still needed by the oligarchs to maintain systemic legitimacy. The oligarchs want to avoid the realization the US is a banana republic for as long as possible. Although with the recent Florida elections and Trump at the helm, it is getting a little difficult to ignore. "Getting the money out ends the direct control the Oligarchs exercise over congress." I'm not sure what you mean by "direct" control. And how does removing money from politics "end the direct control the Oligarchs exercise over congress"? So while you are contemplating how "Getting Money out of Politics" ends the control the Oligarchs exercise over congress, maybe you should also contemplate why this persistence exists to maintain "Hope and Change" within the Democratic Party? Have you considered asking the Commission on Presidential Debates to allow a candidate outside of one of the oligarch controlled parties to join the debate? Have you considered asking for the conditions that restrict a third party from entering the race to be lifted? Have you considered asking the super-delegate scam to be removed from politics? Have you considered asking for the Electoral College scam to also be removed? Have you considered asking for the Gerrymandering scam that keeps at least one of the two oligarch parties in power be removed? And I could just keep going infinitum. Soon you may come to the realization the true function of the Democratic Party is to stop progressive policies from entering the US political arena. Sure, there have been some tokens thrown to the people from time to time, but that was just to keep them interested. Even going back to Roosevelt and his New Deal, Roosevelt was always working for the oligarchs. It was the "left" movements of the day that forced Roosevelt to convince the oligarchs to "give up some of their wealth" otherwise there would have been a revolution. Roosevelt wrote to his brother saying he had saved capitalism. And since that day the oligarchs and their think tanks, foundations and institutions have been working to reverse the "progressive" gains made. Again, getting money out of politics is a good start, but if you think it will “end the direct control the Oligarchs exercise over congress”, you are a blind man trying to describe an elephant.
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  33. Thomas, why do you continually have to pretend to be a "progressive" by debating idiots like Sauer? Who are you trying to convince by debating an individual that would make Genghis Khan appear progressive and Trump look intelligent? If I was a conspiracist, I would say Sauer was just a fabrication so Corporate Democrats could use a patsy to prove their “Progressiveness” to any fool willing to listen. Sauer would have trouble finding his nose, leave alone creating a rational and coherent argument. Every time Sauer appears on the show, he shows his inability to understand any detail of an argument and he usually reverts to the usual prerecorded Mises Institute answer without understanding the answer doesn’t actually address the question. Then Sauer finally leaves with his foot in his mouth and his tail between his legs. So the primary question is; why does this apparent idiot Sauer continually appear on Hartmann’s show only to be humiliated? Hartmann could have written the title for this YouTube video long before he invited Sauer on the show as if a raccoon was debating Sauer, the raccoon would win. So Thomas, if you wish to improve your standing in the Progressive community, might I suggest you debate someone who has an IQ larger than their shoe size. You may be fooling some of the rubes watching with this self-serving superficial scam, but most would not be buying it! Shooting fish in a barrel is not a credible way to convince your audience you are not a Corporate Democrat.
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  34. This is just another example of the tit-for-tat clickbait strategy to attract those fools driven by their Limbic system. The idiots in a restaurant wouldn’t serve a Democrat; the idiots in a restaurant wouldn’t serve a Republican. All that proves is those idiots at the restaurants don’t understand the plutocrats divide-and-conquer strategy and are ignorantly enforcing that strategy. Hartmann, I’m not sure why you are using this rhetoric just to fill in air time, but you could be doing so much more with this opportunity. Your opinions are becoming so nebulous and distorted any belief system could fit within their boundary. Why do you insist on walking that fine line where you feel the need to keep some of the actual left onside while catering to the fake establishment left? Why do you have Corporate Democrat guests like Perez who push the fake Russiagate that you apparently now agree with, when you used to interview Thomas Frank who exposes Russiagate as the Clinton-Maddow scam it is? Hartmann, forget this mindless clickbait; why don’t you bring back Thomas Frank and interview him on how the Democratic Party has screwed the American people? Give the people the fundamental reasons why and how they have been screwed by Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump alike. Give them something actually informative for the long term instead of the tit-for-tat clickbait garbage only effective at manipulating cretins and continuing the plutocrats’ divide-and-conquer strategy. Or, won’t your current bosses allow you to go there. Hartmann, it is so obvious your new job is to help continue the expansion of the Corporate Center Democrats so the plutocrats have a platform on which to stand; occasionally throwing the true left some crumbs in hope to keeping the more ignorant convinced. So if you ever get Thomas Frank to frequent your show again, may I suggest you ask him why he believes Hillary lost to Trump and listen carefully to his explanation? Or is that a bridge too far?
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  35.  @julieannmyers8714  : It's excellent you understand this, so few do. The majority still see the Libertarian movement as some abstract cult promoted by individuals such as Ron Paul that present well, but have a shady Koch background. They see the Austrian/Libertarian movement as this far away ideology that only presents a candidate for election and only has a minuscule chance of obtaining power. When all along this Austrian/Libertarian movement that von Mises brought from Europe in the 1930 funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and setup at the Rockefeller University of Chicago has grown exponentially over the decades, has completely subverted any democracy in the US, and now has total control of all branches of government. The Kochtopus isn't some little creature in an aquarium in Corpus Christie or Kansas City; it is a massive behemoth with it's tentacles in many countries around the World: https://theintercept.com/2017/08/09/atlas-network-alejandro-chafuen-libertarian-think-tank-latin-america-brazil/ Then you have people like Hartmann saying vote for the Democrats when the majority of Democrats are in the pocket of the Plutocrats and these criminals intend to keep it that way. Hartmann superficially criticizes the Kochs like a good little Controlled Opposition but then promotes the plutocrat backed criminals in the Democratic Party that have been funded by the Kochs. And yes, I have quite often pushed the irony of Hayek's book, "The Road to Serfdom". This is not a fight between Republican and Democrat as both are corrupt; this is a Class War to overturn the strategy embedded in the Powell Memorandum.
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  36. @Oggatha Christie : Any democratic solution appears to be off the table as US Democracy has died the death of a thousand cuts. Combine that with the corporate controlled media and all the MSNBC emulators on the internet and you have a populous of misinformed people attempting to vote in a corrupt democratic system. Yes, there may be a chance with Bernie, but never forget the Democratic National Committee pledge Sanders signed requires him to “run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party.” The full extent of this agreement will probably only be understood after taking office. When it comes to a democratic solution, I believe the plutocrats have all bases covered so alternative strategies must be considered. An aggressive resistance strategy like you see in France with the Yellow Jackets is also off the table. If you look back through history, you will see the plutocrats in the US have slaughtered those who have tried such tactics, and with the new private armies like was seen at Standing Rock, this would be disastrous. Rockefeller’s Ludlow Massacre could happen again tomorrow and with the corrupt media and a scared and gullible population, this could be spun into an acceptable narrative. The only possible path I see is what Chris Hedges recommends along the lines of obstructive resistance. You probably need to watch a few of his videos to get a comprehensive understanding. Chris appears to believe the only chance to turn this around is to target the good in the community, hope they are the majority, educate them in all ways possible, and have them on the team. Somehow you have to reverse decades of “Identity Politics” used by by the mainstream media and controlled opposition like Hartman to divide and conquer on behalf of the plutocrats. It really comes down to a critical mass; if the majority is too lazy, apathetic, and frightened to recognize and act against corruption, maybe it’s time to emigrate. That’s if you want to live in a democracy. But if you look at the reach of the tentacles of the Kochtopus, I’m not sure where you would go: https://www.atlasnetwork.org/partners/global-directory The Washington-CIA coup you are now observing now in Venezuela is a result of the Kochtopus.
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  39. Jason Berger: I hope you're correct it's their last stand; even though the repercussions are extremely serious, maybe its time; but please consider what the people are up against. The oligarchs have been building up their defenses ever since the end of the last millennium; consider the National Defense Authorization Act section 10.21; consider the ambiguity in legislation of the meaning of "terrorist" where terrorist legislation has already been used to prosecute the Dakota pipeline protestors; consider the creation of "Homeland" Security, the militarization of the police, and the disappearance of the Posse Comitatus Act, and don’t forget the Global “Five Eyes” surveillance system that captures data and stores it in the Utah Data Center. The oligarchs are currently gutting the US and extracting all the wealth from the people. Remember, the oligarchs own much of the media and control most of cyberspace so you can expect to be lumbered with many still ignorant of the circumstances. Consider the tax cuts that are increasing the national debt with wealth transfer to the oligarchs. Consider the fake Russiagate to justify the current military budget and an ongoing trillion dollar expansion of the nuclear arsenal, and all this wealth is being transferred through the Military Industrial Complex right into the pockets of the shareholders (oligarchs) of those companies so strategically placed in almost every state so as to continue their justification of existence on jobs alone, just to manipulate the people. But don’t expect the oligarchs to remain in this Potemkin husk as the wealth disappears; they and their minions will be looking outside for greener pastures where they can live their life of leisure while they contemplate those left behind in the Mad Max jungle of the oligarchs’ making. I hope you're correct it's their last stand, but this may be a little more difficult than first thought. Much of their control infrastructure is already in place and now much of the active military has been privatized. So don't expect to see sympathy in the eyes of one of their mercenaries targeting you. When the oligarchs use names like “Homeland” they are referring to their own property and their meaning of “Citizen” can be found in the “Citizens United” legislation that allows oligarchs to buy elections with large political donations. When they say Citizens United they mean Oligarchs United and Main Street is irrelevant. There will be a time in the future when oligarchs will no longer have to buy elections and the current farce we call democracy will be exposed to all as the scam it is; and no one will be able to deny that fact. At that point in time, the oligarchs will know this is the time for potential domestic rebellion. Since the end of WW2, they have been destroying any institutions citizens can use to coordinate strategy; they have destroyed most socialist movements; they have destroyed the union movements; and they have successfully stigmatized the term “collective” as a pejorative throughout the nation. Consider the fact, they control and monitor all citizen communications, their national network of Fusion Centers in every State are designed to collect intelligence and coordinate responses from police, Homeland Security and most other corporate government agencies. So for those who are aware, “terrorism” legislation is not designed for the ISIS mercenaries the oligarchs hire to do their bidding in independent lands they wish to control; the term “terrorist” is for those who the oligarchs wish to control domestically; those who may wish to inhibit the acts of the oligarchs because these acts are in conflict with the US Constitution. The question I have is: What trigger are they looking for to activate the final stage? Is this trigger point just around the corner or is it years in the making? When do we see the Fourth Reich on the streets? We have already seen the Fourth Reich on the march in foreign lands (General Wesley Clark – 7 countries in 5 years), but when do we see the Fourth Reich on the march domestically?
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  46. Hartmann, why don’t you tell your audience how the scam really works? Trump is a puppet; Obama was a puppet; Clinton was a puppet; no matter how far back in history you go, most presidents were puppets of the plutocrats. Sometimes the plutocrats’ stock of puppets runs thin and then they have to recruit the best way they can. Sometimes they put an advertisement in the paper, “Wanted, politician who will do anything” – Nixon; and sometimes they recruit their actors directly from Hollywood – Reagan and Trump. And sometimes the plutocrats recruit those within the family who actually begin to work against their masters' interests – Kennedy. Well we all know happens when you work against the interests of the plutocrats. As I have said before, yelling at Trump for the decisions of the plutocrats is like yelling at the Ronald MacDonald statue when you get a bad burger. Your impotent screaming may make you feel a little better, but for those who should know better, you know you are yelling in vain. Maybe you might begin to understand the old magician’s distraction strategy while he sleeves the coin he just picked from his pocket and it magically disappears. Those who can see through this deception will understand that nearly all presidential candidates are owned by the plutocrats. Sure there are some anomalies, but the plutocrats political, electoral, and media machines are designed to bypass the will of the people at the ballot box while simultaneously manipulating the emotions and the reasoning of the people who magically still believe there is such a thing as democracy. Those of you that questioned the intent of Hartmann may have guessed by now he is targeting those that have difficulty processing reality and want simple answers to relatively complex issues. This is why you observe such banal arguments with little real content. The individuals that tend to support Hartmann’s narrative of the establishment have been brainwashed to forget the Real Progressive issues. They have been programmed to forget the “Liberal” Truman administration and the FBI and were designed to oppress the workers on behalf of the plutocrats, to create the McCarthy narrative, and to give “Socialism” and “Unions” a toxic pejorative while dismantling workers’ rights. Like the contemporary National Defense Authorization Act, these aging corrupt institutions were designed with the intent to crush any plutocratic imperial descent; MLK learned this the hard way. Hartmann and the establishment Liberal-Fascist press are now selling these traitorous plutocratic security state entities to the working class as trusted friends. Hartmann’s job is to detract from the real issues of the day by continually getting his audience to rage at his 1984 “Two Minutes Hate” episodes on Trump that are now more frequent than a bus timetable. Take a look for yourself at the “Video” page of this YouTube channel and look at how many times episodes are designed to induce Trump rage. Notice how these episodes appear to be growing more frequent. You may also have noticed as Hartmann's Russiagate episodes fade into lies, deception, and a strategy of doubling down, Hartmann is changing tack and increasing the frequency of this rage against Trump to distract you from the failing Russiagate narrative. Yes, if you want to understand Hartmann’s strategy a little deeper, may I suggest Orwell’s 1984 is a good place to start; the plutocrats appear to be using this text as an operations manual. You may be surprised how well it parallels what you see on this YouTube channel and what you see in the bipartisan strategy of the plutocrats’ political puppets and their mainstream and alternative media network of deception. The bottom line to all of this is very simple. The last thing Hartmann wants is for you to realize the function of the Democratic Party and its affiliates (DNC, DCCC, etc.) is to keep Real Progressives out of all branches of government while the plutocrats' Liberal and Republican puppets run the show. You may have wondered why Hartmann isn’t continually pushing AOC or other Real Progressives but continues to waste time creating narratives for his viewers to rage against Trump; I hope now you may begin to see the reason - distraction. Yes, Hartmann appears to be just a small “Controlled Opposition” cog in a vast deception machine helping with his corner of the Dog and Pony Show, but he must play his part. His job is to continue to get you to vote for the lesser of two evils while the questions of political entrapment reside in your unconscious. You accept this illusion by drinking the Freedom, Democracy, and American-Dream Kool-Aid, but those lies and deceptions must be getting a little obvious to many by now. As you watch Hartmann push doubts into your mind about US imperial interests in Venezuela or the intent of Julian Assange when exposing imperial war crimes, you should be asking the big questions about the information you are absorbing and the influences that could affect your ability to process that information. It wasn't long ago when the same establishment asked you to believe in Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators, or Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction, or a myriad of other lies to justify their imperial attacks on independent sovereign states. All this fades into history when you are confronted with Two Minutes of Trump Hate. But always remember, Trump is just the current puppet president with an intentional target painted on his head upon which you can hurl your rotten tomatoes; and while you are hurling your rotten tomatoes at this intentionally imbecilic, pathetic, and petulant target, you must also ask, "What am I failing to observe?" You may have to wade through many layers of historical deception and lies to find the truth; you may even have to read such inconvenient documents as the Podesta emails, or you could just vote for the next conveniently placed bipartisan plutocratic puppet on your ballot paper.
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