Comments by "Edward Cullen" (@edwardcullen1739) on "TIKhistory"
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@Michael-Archonaeus Christianity is based on Judaism.
Judaism has an oral tradition of understanding of the scriptures that isn't contained in the words of the scriptures.
That and the English translation of the Bible is imperfect - there are many passages that are more "poetic" than accurately reflecting the true meaning of the original words. That is, there may be a word that was translated to "the nearest equivalent English", which loses a lot of the meaning (which is often subtextual) of the original.
And generally, it is a very complex, inter-referential text.
When Jesus said "It is you who say that I am", this is not just him saying "you're saying something I never claimed", he is also invoking the name of God - "I am" is literally (one of) the names of God, from the Old Testament (see Exodus).
When you've been raised a Catholic, been to church every week for over a decade, been around the community, you know more than the text of the Bible. It's unsatisfying to others, because it's a "vibe", but you know, instinctively, when someone says "the Bible says this, therefore", whether they are correct or not.
TIK is very right at a superficial level, but wrong at the deeper subtextual and philosophical.
"Blaming" Socialism on Christianity is like blaming the firefighters instead of the arsonists, because "they both deal with fire".
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@TheImperatorKnight I am facing my childhood trauma, which is why I'm so angered by your surface-level analysis of Christianity.
I was raised a Catholic and lost my faith at 14 (I'm now 44). I know you are wrong - returning to Christianity, to Christian teaching, really understanding the difference between Christianity and Socialism, is what's helping me, even though I don't "believe".
You are wrong about Christian teaching. You are wrong about your understanding of the Bible.
Christianity and Socialism are diametrically opposed, because they have VERY different philosophical roots.
"The Pope isn't Catholic, he's a Socialist." Is a refrain that it's VERY easy to find amongst Catholics. We may not all be able to articulate why, but we know it's true.
The root of Christianity is "you are born imperfect, but can be better; you are responsible for your actions", the root of Socialism is "you are perfect and everything bad that happens to you is because of others; you are not responsible for what happens to you".
You mistake evil people twisting Christian teaching for a "problem" with Christianity itself.
Almost the entirety of the modern world exists because of Christianity, not in spite of it, so to say that it's "fundamentally wrong" means there's something you don't understand.
Your analysis also completely ignores free will.
Your fundamental problem is not faith or Christianity, it is simply that you are intelligent and able to see more of the world than most. Yes, it sucks. Welcome to the club.
"Altruism", as you describe it, is really "pathological altruism". Altruism is a group adaptive trait - this is Evolutionary Psychology.
A group full of individuals willing to sacrifice for each other is more likely to succeed - how do you think the SAS function?!?!
I understand the torment you are going through and I can promise you that "selfishness" is not the way out.
True understanding of duty, service, sacrifice and gratitude - of community and meaning - are what you need.
And no, not everyone can be saved! This is one of the Painful Truths of Christian teaching - something that many do not understand.
This doesn't mean you give up - I have a nephew who has fallen down the Socialist rabbit hole. He is miserable as a result, but can't see the cause/effect. I can't help him, but I still try - I just don't allow myself to despair over it.
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@Michael-Archonaeus Sorry, I missed some of your points because of app issues.
How's your Hebrew? Yes the New Testament was mostly Greek, but what about the Old?
Whole chapters? What about when you need to reference other books to fully understand the context?
It's as old for you as it is for me. I'm tired of the same, tired criticisms, that are all word-based, rather than practical/philosophical. I'm not a Biblical scholar, but I am an engineer and I understand systems and I've learnt to recognise a system that works and when I don't understand it enough to recreate it.
It's always easier to destroy than create. Christianity and Judaism have lasted for thousands of years, so there must be some validity to them. If you can't see that, that's a failing on your part, not of the system.
You don't like this because I'm hand-waving.
Yes, but then, it doesn't bother me, because I have humility and Faith. My guess would be it bothers you, because you don't.
If you're looking for answers in words on a page - or you think that burning books (metaphorically) will bring you peace, then you really HAVE missed the point.
Just like TIK.
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@Baamthe25th OMG, THIS!
I'm almost sad I missed this when you originally posted 😒... But I get to enjoy it today, when I need reminding that, for all the stupid in the world, there's at least one other human who gets it! 😂
Those who understand, know that there is no "centre"; it's literally like the UK parliament - you're either on one side, or you're the opposition (enemy, who must be destroyed...)
When these "enlightened centrists" say Socialism, they really mean "social conscience" (NOT social consciousness!!!).
And by that, I mean, they recognise that they are not alone, that there are other people and that human nature means that some can be taken advantage of by the powerful and/or unscrupulous. Most of these "enlightened centrists", don't understand that Socialism rejects the very IDEA of human nature, so describing how they feel as "Socialism" is, well, just WRONG.
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@Gvjrapiro No, I just understand it better than you do.
But of course, you won't believe that, because you have AllTheAnswers™... Straight from the holy scriptures, through the mouths of the prophets...
The rejection of the idea of human nature is just one (important) aspect of Socialism, but as we know, if you're not a TRUE Socialist, if you don't adhere to ALL of Socialism, then you're not a Socialist at all.
Not my logic, theirs. It sounds like a straw-man, but that's just an indication of how pathetic/childish the "thought" behind it is.
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@Gvjrapiro ROFL! You're here, defending Communism, which has directly killed, in PEACETIME, 50-200 million people... And we don't know the numbers because Communists have such little respect for human life, they don't even bother to count the bodies!
You're here, defending Communism and you call ME a fanatic?
You are soooo pathetic, I have nothing but pity for you. I wouldn't even waste my time trying to re-educate you. Hell, I'd even have to debate whether you were worthy of the price of the bullet.
It's ironic that Communists are all atheists, because only Jesus could love you.
LOL, maybe that's why you're all such miserable and pathetic people?
Go with God. Jesus loves you, especially as you don't deserve it
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