Comments by "John Adam" (@johnadam2885) on "Channel 4 News"
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@putinmustenduplikegaddafi2236 You are a liar because you want to talk what happened after 2014, but not what happened in 2014.
In 2014, a coup was staged that violently overthrew the Yankovich govt.. Participants of the coup included Ukro Nazi groups like Right Sector and Azov Batallion. In the crowds in the Maidan, Victoria Nuland and John McCain were there distributing sweets. Why were they there ? The coup was organised by America and Victoria Nuland had been liaising with and funding Russophobic groups. In 2008, Merkel and Sarkozy had opposed induction of Ukraine into NATO saying it would lead to war. But the US arm twisted Germany and France to accept its plan to induct Ukraine into NATO. Nuland was caught on tape saying F..k the EU. In other words, the US determines what who will run Ukraine.
After the coup, and only after it, Russia took the Crimea. The reason is Sevastapol in the Crimea is the HQ of the Russian Black Sea fleet. At the time of independence, Ukraine made agreement with Russia it would lease out the use of Sevastapol port to the Russian Navy. With the seizure of power by Russophobic Ukro Nazis, they could unilaterally cancel that agreement after NATO entry, and the the US Seventh Fleet would be sailing from the Black Sea. Thus, Putin acted quickly to stop that, and took Crimea.
Ukraine has continued flirting with NATO reneging on its independence declaration which said it would not join any military alliance. US and NATO forces were training the Ukranian army near Lvov. Russia demanded commitment from Ukraine to honour its original agreement with Russia of neutrality, and asked NATO to give a security guarantee. Ukraine and NATO refused, so Russia had no choice but to take technical-military action. That is going on.
Russia has taken the industrial heartland, and the coastal area, and is strangling the Ukranian economy. It has got Ukraine by the scruff of the neck. Ukraine has only two choices now : accept neutrality AND cede more land (that is the price for inducing war); or continue till all of Ukraine is demolished city after city. There is nothing that NATO can do to thwart it.
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@putinmustenduplikegaddafi2236 The clause in article 2 negates Article 1. I caught you out, I bet you did not know about it. If Ukraine threatens any signatory of the Budapest Memorandum, action in self-defence can be taken against Ukraine. Ukraine, in coordination with one signatory, the US, was threatening Russia with NATO. The plan was to put US missiles in Ukraine, stop the Russian navy's use of Sevastopol which was originally agreed by Ukraine, and make it a naval base for the US Seventh Fleet. Hence, Russia has the right to annul Ukraine's independence or take action to degrade Ukraine. All the other signatories of the memorandum tried to be sneaky, but Russia stopped their wicked machinations against it, in no uncertain terms. You can howl as much as you like, the fact is Ukraine will be broken up and taken back over a period of time. Ukraine has squandered its independence due to the the irresponsibility of its politicians and people, and due to US manipulations.
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Typical American, explaining the US/NATO defeat in Ukraine, as shown in Vilnius. And typical westerner feeding soft questions that do not disturb the US-NATO narrative that they are defeating Russia.
As for her claim that Russia is not as powerful as we thought etc., why has the US then not sent troops to Ukraine, to win decisively and end the war ?
The reason is the Russians will kill Americans on a scale exceeding what they faced in Vietnam. The history of American defeats and hasty exits in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia etc. shows the Americans will not be able to face the casualties.
The reason the US blocked Ukraine's demand for entry into NATO and refused to provide a timeline is because it is afraid that Ukraine will demand Article 5, which would require US to send troops to Ukraine. The US knows the Russians will kill them.
By blocking Ukraine from NATO, the US now recognises Russia's objective - there will be no US bases in Ukraine. Therefore it is a Russian win, a US defeat. The US now knows that Russia is powerful and is ready to fight a nuclear war to prevent US bases in Ukraine, and it has the capacity to incinerate not only Leopard tanks and Bradleys, but all US cities.
So don't believe this ugly lady, she is trying to put on a brave face. The US is afraid to fight Russia. In Vilnius, one Ukrainian activist asked Jake Sullivan why US is blocking Ukraine's entry into NATO, was it because it was afraid of Russia ? She was told to show gratitude to America for the money spent !
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@nic7048 Ukraine as such is not a threat, it is the US that is a threat to Russia. The US planned to induct Ukraine into NATO to put its missiles there targeting Russia. You will recall Russia asked for a security guarantee, but the US refused. You tell me why the US refused. Then Russia took technical-military measures to make sure Ukraine will not join NATO and host US missiles. So don't be disingenuous and pretend you don't know western mendacity.
When the Warsaw Pact was dissolved, why was NATO kept, and why did it expand to Russia's borders five times when Russia had protested ? US Sec. James Baker had promised that NATO would not move an inch to the east. The Russians were taken for a ride. Ukraine was the last straw. Russia had to take action before Ukraine was inducted, because afterwards, Article 5 would be invoked, and it would require Russia to fight a nuclear war to dislodge the US from Ukraine. Hence, the western narrative that it was an unprovoked attack on an innocent is deceptive humbug.
It is better Russia fights a conventional war now and partitions or takes Ukraine, so a nuclear war is averted. Now it is clear to Ukranians and America that NATO entry will not be tolerated.
Russia was pushed to fight, but once they fight, they don't back down, they will take any casualties needed to defeat their enemy.
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@freko106 Your comment on Jo is not off the mark. But your comment on Zelensky as a ''true leader'' is off the mark. Yes, Z deserves credit for standing his ground, but not for being foolish to think he could get use Russophobia, hiding behind the hope of NATO entry and parking US missiles in Ukraine, to threaten Russia. That is a foreign policy disaster for Ukraine. Ukraine does not have the luxury to take a militantly anti-Russian stand to get into the western camp. Russia decided to nip the threat of the US using Ukraine to threaten Russia with missiles. At the end of the day, even if Russia could not capture Kiev and overthrow him, it still has the capacity to reduce Ukraine to rubble. Afterwards, Russia can wage a continuous low intensity war and not allow Ukraine to be rebuilt. Ukraine will end up balkanised, with some areas under Russian control, some areas under Ukranian control, which would need continuous supply of EU money to maintain. Zelensky and his pro western faction is responsible for getting Ukraine destroyed. The west is also responsible for encouraging Ukraine to cross Russia's red line, and then refusing to go and fight for Ukraine.
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Don't make immature comparisons. Russia will not allow US bases in Ukraine. It is ready to fight a nuclear war to stop it. Now the Americans understand it.
After the flop of the Ukrainian counter offensive, the Americans also now understand that Ukraine cannot evict the Russians. If the US lets Ukraine into NATO, it will ask for Article 5, and the Americans will have to send troops to Ukraine. In which case the Russians will kill Americans on a scale bigger than they faced in Vietnam. Judging from America's hasty exits from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia etc., the Americans are cowards, they cannot take casualties. Russia has the capacity to incinerate all American cities.
In effect, Russia has met its objective : in Vilnius, effectively America was forced to give up on having bases in Ukraine. It is an American defeat, but they will not admit it, they will blame Ukraine and say it does not have democracy and it is corrupt.
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