Comments by "J Groovy" (@jgroovy1973) on "Fox News"
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@beaulin5628 It was Peter Strzok, not McCabe, who texted about stopping Trump. There was ZERO evidence that was part of some conspiracy. They had a right to their personal opinions about politics. They just shouldn't have used work email to talk about them. Hillary did NOT expose the highest level of communications. Trump's own daughter and son in law have been caught doing the same thing. YOU are in a bubble if you ignore all of the PROBABLE CAUSE for the Russias probes. Trump and 16 of his associates lied about 140 Russian contacts. Trump lied about Trump Tower Moscow. You don't see the danger in that?? His people met with Russian government surrogates to trade illegal dirt for sanction relief. Are you just going to ignore that? Oh, THAT shouldn't be looked into, but a few text messages that lead nowhere are proof of a deep state conspiracy involving the FBI, CIA, White House, and the Clinton campaign? A grand jury will "indict a ham sandwich", but won't indict McCabe. Why not? Because he did nothing illegal. The "witch hunt" is being perpetrated by Trump and the Republicans. Nothing came out of those House hearings against any of them, and you people can't let it go. Notice, in this video, how Hannity is conflating about four unrelated things - the dossier, FISA warrants, Comey, McCabe - and speaks in vagaries. FOX News is trash. Wake up.
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Beaulin
Fusion GPS is a legal, American opposition research firm. Actually, it's one person, Glen Simpson, who subcontracted Christopher Steele to do the research he used for the dossier.
Fusion was first hired by REPUBLICANS to research Trump. After the primary, Fusion was hired by a group working on behalf of the DNC, not Hillary. She had nothing to do with it. Neither she, nor the DNC colluded with Russia. Fusion GPS had a rule - Its clients couldn't ask, and wouldn't be told how it gathered information.
It's nonsense to say Clinton or the DNC colluded with Russia because PUTIN ADMITS HE WANTED TO HELP TRUMP, and he hated Clinton.
If there was any impropriety regarding the dossier, it was done by Glen Simpson, (who IS Fusion GPS). He testified to the REPUBLICAN LED House Intel Committee. He stands by his testimony and wanted it released, but the REPUBLICANS refused to release it.
Steele did not get information from the Russian GOVERNMENT, and there was no quid pro quo. Don Jr, Kushner, and Manafort met with surrogates of the Russian GOVERNMENT to discuss a quid pro quo - dirt on Clinton in return for sanction relief.
Steele never gave his dossier to the Clinton campaign. He saw possible criminal activity, and he gave it to the FBI. Neither the dossier, nor the FISA warrant on Carter Page started the Russia probe. It had already begun as a result of George Papadopoulos talking to an Australian intelligence officer.
Any questions?
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Neither the FBI counterintelligence probe, nor the Mueller probe was illegal or political. There was plenty of probable cause for both. It's so hypocritical for Trump loyalists to say, with NO probable cause or proof, that "Clinton sold uranium to Russia...Clinton colluded with Russia...The Clintons ran a hit squad...Strzok and Page were part of a deep state conspiracy..," yet when there is real suspicion surrounding Trump, and when he and 16 of his people were caught LYING about 140 Russian contacts, it's not only NOT cause for suspicion, but it's TREASON to investigate it! WHAT?!? There is no deep state conspiracy. If you think the DNC, the media, the FBI and the CIA are somehow in cahoots to take down Trump, you are hopelessly ignorant.
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Hey, MAGA World, pretend it was Biden who, while leaving office, took 15 boxes of documents from the National Archives while insisting the election was stolen, refusing to ACCEPT THE RULINGS OF 61 JUDGES, refusing a peaceful transfer of power, and inviting an armed mob to STORM THE US CAPITOL. "Let's have trial by combat!" said Trump's lawyer, to the mob on 1/6.
Pretend Biden also took those documents while under multiple investigations.
Would you be okay with that? If Barack Obama did that? Bill Clinton? Would you DEFEND that?
And speaking of your devil, what about Hillary's emails?? Trumpers have this blind eye for the massive, intentional mishandling of classified information by the Trump Administration.
You can't have it both ways. If you think she should be locked up, so should he and for longer.
You thought Hillary was reckless with information ten years ago. SHE WAS INVESTIGATED. She admitted doing it. It's over.
And Hunter Biden is also being investigated, so what more do you want? It seems you people never try to understand the process of things.
This is about Donald Trump. If ANY other actual US President did what he did, do you seriously think there wouldn't be an investigation? That one wouldn't be absolutely called for? What If it were Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan?
All of those things Trump did and said as President that "we just hate him" for - If Biden did or said them..?
What about Obama?
If Hillary had become President?
All you have are whataboutisms and accusations about the "deep state".
WHO are you talking about? You're saying the only way to explain it is this shadowy, evil left-wing network of political crooks who have invaded every agency including the military, the CIA, the FBI, and the National Archives.
All this "election stealing" on every level from Biden to the Chinese to regular Dem voters...any ACTUAL SUSPECTS? Other than your President harassing and defaming three female generations of volunteer poll workers in Georgia. I hope they sue Trump for every dime.
Anyone who cries about the "deep state" doesn't understand the basics of separation of powers or even the fundamentals of how the US government works.
How many more REPUBLICAN TRUMP WORLD INSIDERS have to all paint the same picture of him before you get it? They're ALL lying? They're all "out to get him" and "just don't like him"? They all wanted to put themselves through hell? Think.
Until you can say you would defend any other President acting this way, any arguments you make to defend Trump are simply tribal, mindlessly biased, in bad faith, and therefore moot.
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MSM critics, stop attacking the messenger. Yes, they use narratives. They do it to make sense of the raw facts for you. Everything isn't politics. They don't work for the DNC or the "deep state". They work for ratings to get sponsors, so they sensationalize to get your attention. That doesn't mean they're lying. If they were, their competitors would call THEM out to take their ratings and sponsors. Competition is a cornerstone of capitalism. MSM want big, corporate sponsorship, so why would they be pushing far-left socialism? You "fake news" parrots haven't thought this through.
Think of it as fast food, but instead of burgers, they sell information. They have to offer a quality product faster than the other guys. CNN is the McDonalds of news. There's some pink slime, but it's mostly beef. It's not gourmet, but it does the job. If you don't want a lot of garnish, watch PBS, but you'll get the same FACTS that CNN reports.
FOX News can't pass the health inspection. It has no competitors. It labeled MSM "liberal" simply by standing to the right of the them, and pretending it isn't also mainstream media. FOX News isn't conservative. It's ALTERNATIVE media.
It's up to YOU to know the difference between FACT, OPINION, and ANALYSIS. The term, "fake news" is designed to blur those differences, and to make you think opinions are outright lies. Do you MSM critics who cry "BIAS!" even realize how biased YOU are?
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No, it's Trump who accuses others of doing what he does, and it's A LOT of things. Colluding with foreign governments, lack of transparency, lying, lacking plans, betraying his country, incompetence, racism, senility, playing too much golf, being radical...I could go on for an hour.
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Should these things not arouse suspicion?
-- Trump said, "Russia, if you're listening..."
-- 16 Trump associates made 140 contacts with Russians regarding the election. ALL except Roger Stone denied it until confronted, then said there was nothing wrong with it. (So, why lie?) Stone bragged about being in touch with Assange and Guccifer 2.0. (The very people who hacked the DNC and released the emails).
-- Trump's top people met with surrogates of the Russian government to trade stolen information on their opponent for sanction relief.
-- Trump chose Rex Tillerson, former CEO of Exxon, as his first Sec. of State. Tillerson had received Russia's highest award for a foreigner. Exxon had lost a $500 billion oil deal with a Russian oil company when the US sanctioned Russia for its illegal invasion of Ukraine. Trump fired Tillerson the day after he publicly criticized Putin.
-- Trump's campaign requested a change in the RNC platform to benefit Russia against Ukraine.
-- Papadopoulos suggested a meeting with the Russians.
-- Trump pursued a real estate deal in Moscow, and lied about it. It was a deal that required approval from Putin, who was attacking our election to help Trump. Conflict of interest and blackmail potential at the highest levels.
-- Paul Manafort offered to give briefings on the campaign to Russia. Manafort literally worked for Putin. Then he "just happened" to become Trump's campaign chairman.
-- Trump repeatedly praised Putin, never once condemning him. Instead, he cast doubt on the CIA and FBI.
-- Kushner met with a SANCTIONED Russian bank to trade sanction relief for personal favors and to set up a back channel to the Kremlin - to get around US intelligence.
-- Michael Flynn told the Russians not to retaliate for sanctions imposed on them for the very election interference meant to help elect Trump.
-- Both Michael Flynn and Carter Page traveled to Moscow to make speeches disparaging US policy. Flynn lied about his compensation and failed to register as a foreign agent.
-- At Putin's request, Trump invited Russian ambassadors into the Oval Office, where he spilled Israeli spy secrets and said the FBI Director he'd just fired was a "nut job".
-- Trump continued to cast doubt on Russia's guilt.
-- Trump sided with Putin in front of the world at the Helsinki summit.
-- In a private meeting with Putin, Trump took possession of the notes of his own interpreter, and instructed the linguist not to discuss what transpired in the meeting with administration officials.
-- Nobody in Trump's campaign ever called the FBI.
Did Democrats make them do ANY of that? Are these things not cause for suspicion? If you say, "no", it would be pretty hypocritical to insist that the Page/Strok texts, Uranium One, and Obama's hot mic are proof of crimes, especially a deep state conspiracy. The above are all what's called circumstantial evidence. They KNEW what Russia was up to, but did those things anyway.
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