Comments by "J Groovy" (@jgroovy1973) on "Fox News"
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This happened AFTER Trump and his campaign found out Russia was attacking our election, and AFTER the FBI told them to call if they saw anything suspicious:
-- Trump said, "Russia, if you're listening..."
-- 16 Trump associates contacted Russians regarding the election. ALL except Roger Stone denied it until confronted, then said there was nothing wrong with it. (So, why lie?) Then, Stone denied his previous statements that he was in touch with Assange and Guccifer 2.0. (The very people who hacked the DNC and released the emails).
-- The Trump Tower meeting. (Straight-up collusion).
-- The request to change the RNC platform to benefit Russia against Ukraine.
-- Papadopoulos suggested a meeting with the Russians.
-- Trump continued to pursue a real estate deal in Moscow, and lied about it. (He is reputed to have offered the penthouse suite to Putin. If true, that's a major emoluments crime).
-- Paul Manafort offered to give briefings on the campaign to Russia. By the way, Manafort literally worked for Putin. Then he "just happened" to become Trump's campaign chairman.
-- Trump repeatedly praised Putin, never once condemning him. Instead, he cast doubt on the CIA.
-- Kushner met with a SANCTIONED Russian bank to trade sanction relief for personal favors and to set up a back channel to the Kremlin.
-- Flynn told the Russians not to retaliate for sanctions.
-- Trump, at Putin's request, invited Russian ambassadors into the Oval Office, where he spilled Israeli spy secrets and said the FBI Director he'd just fired was a "nut job".
-- Trump continued to cast doubt on Russia's guilt.
-- Trump sided with Putin in front of the world at the Helsinki summit.
-- They never called the FBI.
Did the Democrats make them do ANY of that? Are these things not cause for suspicion? If you say, "no", it would be pretty hypocritical to insist that the Page/Strok texts, Uranium One, and Obama's hot mic are proof of crimes, especially a deep state conspiracy. The above are all what's called circumstantial evidence. It's all right off the top of my head. There is so much more implicating evidence. Again, my point is that they KNEW what Russia was up to, but did those things anyway.
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Trump said the election could be tied up in litigation for years - a strategy he's used all his life.
He hasn't suggested any solutions to the "problems" with mail-in voting. It's absurd to want school open now, but say it's too unsafe to vote in November.
He asked Russia, China, and Ukraine to help him win, even by investigating Americans. He said taking foreign government help is okay. (It's illegal). He says it's "oppo research" (when HE does it. When opponents do legal oppo research on him, he calls it treason).
It's likely Russia will attack the election. Obama prepared for a cyber attack on election day. I'm pretty sure Trump hasn't, and Putin knows it.
In 2012, Trump said Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected. Apparently, Trump thinks that could work. It wouldn't surprise me if he did that.
Turnout favors Democrats. Trump knows that. 50% of voters say they wouldn't vote for him under ANY circumstances. He's never reached across the aisle, and never had a day with over 50% approval. He considers everyone who didn't vote for him an enemy. He HAS to cheat to win, and he's given every reason to think he will.
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When it comes to suspicions about Trump and Russia, he sure wants the presumption of innocence. He takes it further. Trump and his associates' many lies about Russian contacts were more than enough probable cause for a probe. Never mind that our security made it the DUTY of the FBI to investigate. He insists the probe was criminal.
Yet, when it comes to the presumption of innocence of suspects in street crimes, Trump says cops should slam their heads on the roofs of cop cars when arresting them. Never mind that even the guilty have civil rights.
When it comes to press coverage, he CONSTANTLY uses the term, "fake news". He takes it further. He uses the Stalin term, "enemy of the people" to describe the American free press.
Yet, he lies CONSTANTLY.
When it comes to foreign governments offering information on his political opponents, he calls it oppo research.
Yet, when an American oppo research firm had information on him, he called it treason.
When someone criticizes him, he calls it an attack on America, and says critics should leave the country.
Yet, when he criticizes someone, no matter how nasty or unprovoked, he calls it a "counter punch".
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steven Kombolis - Sad but true. If you watch a FOX News report, like this one, you notice how they project a lot of tone, but don't really offer any information. It's like they have a list of names they've demonized, and they just throw them out there as they conflate multiple stories.
Here, they call it a "bombshell" that Steele's sub-source wasn't too confident about his information, and wasn't "substantiated". Well, we already knew that. Steele gave the infirmation to the FBI so that THEY could see if it was substantial. That was the point. But FOX News practically implies that there was some crime.
Then, the other "bombshell" is that a NY Times article had nine errors in it, but never named one of them. Even if it did, so what? The NY Times isn't part of the government, but FOX News has its viewers brainwashed into thinking the media are always working for the Democrats, lime it's an arm of the DNC. By the way, the DNC, just like the RNC, is nothing. They are poorly funded groups of mid-level politicians who brainstorm election stuff - usually poorly - and do clerical work. FOX News wants people to believe they have more power than God.
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There are no good, strong arguments to defend Trump. When people have a weak argument, they get defensive. They dig in and double down. People feel they have to have an opinion, they have to form it immediately, and never back down. To Trump followers, it's not about solving problems. It's about winning the argument. They must know on some level that if Trump was a Democrat, they would take the exact opposite position.
Imagine if it was Hillary Clinton's daughter and top people who had met with a foreign government to trade dirt on Trump for sanction relief. Imagine if 16 Clinton associates had lied about it. Imagine if she had lied about pursuing a real estate deal in Moscow in 2016.
Imagine if Obama had lied 19,000 times in 3 years. If he accused Republicans of ridiculous, vast conspiracies every other day. Imagine if Obama had done nothing about reports of Russian bounties on US troops or a world pandemic. Imagine if he had spewed nonsense about COVID testing, hid White House visitor logs, called undocumented Mexicans rapists or the CIA Nazis, insulted war widows, tweeted daily insults, spoken like a rambling coot, asked China and Ukraine to investigate his rival, dangled pardons, fired people investigating him, complained constantly about Bush by name, accused the media of lying daily, surrounded himself with criminals, refused to release his tax returns, had record staff turnover, hired his family, talked like a racist...I could go on.
Obama caught heat for wearing a tan suit. He was branded a traitor for telling a Russian diplomat he would be more flexible after an election - flexible to do what? It could have been anything. But anyone who raises an eyebrow about Trump's shady behavior is branded a traitor.
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