Comments by "rockethead7" (@rockethead7) on "Fox News"
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@deborahroy3528
YOU SAID: "No they can not"
== Yes, they can. And, after that, it's up to the courts to decide. Not the police. The police just arrest for the trespass, and from there, all decisions are made by the courts.
YOU SAID: "they can try and make you believe it"
== Pfttt. Who's "they"? The law is the law.
YOU SAID: "you see a high official tried that here and he was put in his place very quickly"
== What ARE you talking about? As for the matter of trespassing, the board was held up. The police trespassed the guy. The board was out of control and ridiculous in all other matters. But, regarding trespassing, the board's decision was to trespass the guy, and that's what happened.
YOU SAID: "and that was none other than our capital building,"
== Pffttt. "Capital building"? Is that anything like "lower case building"? Or maybe "capital punishment building"? What? Was that your illiterate and crippled attempt to say "capitol building"? If you can't even spell it, what can you possibly know about it?
YOU SAID: "and it cost him his next election because of what he tried."
== You know you've already lost any position you ever had (which was already pretty much nil) if you have to drift off topic this badly.
YOU SAID: "This was an example of people doing unlawful acts against the people, flexing authority they did not have as long as the meeting was public in a public building the people had every right to be there till the meeting was adjourn."
== They DID adjourn it, dummy.
Good grief.
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@deborahroy3528
YOU SAID: " you are one of those who like to make others feel stupid"
== Wrong. You are making yourself look stupid.
YOU SAID: "you pick at a typo"
== Spare me. You didn't know how to spell it. You know it. I know it. Don't pretend otherwise.
YOU SAID: "which shows your ignorance."
== How does YOUR misspelling show MY ignorance?
YOU SAID: "As for the court issue I hope that guy get him self a dam good lawyer"
== So, what's this sentence? A whole bunch more "typos"? Or, are you just demonstrating that you're completely illiterate, exactly as I said earlier?
YOU SAID: "that specialized in Constitutional Law and takes the school board and those officers to school for their actions."
== YES!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!! YES, you ignoramus, YES!!!! You are finally getting it!!!! The **BOARD** was the problem. The police were not. The police were not there about any civil rights. The police were not there to uphold any right to protest, any right to speak, etc. The police were there because the board called them to help clear out people who refused to leave. They had the right to do that. They can call meetings, they can end meetings, they can ask people to leave, etc. But, what they can't do is make decisions without hearing from the constituency, nor should they have done any of the ridiculous things about this silly (and very broken) "woke" attitude they're taking. And, for that, I hope the board gets sued to hell and back, and that every member of that board gets booted from office, and never serves again... ANYWHERE. The school board is downright ridiculous for the things they're doing. But, the board wasn't the topic here, dummy. You asked about what the POLICE were supposed to do. And, if the board calls the police to help get rid of trespassers, then that's what the police do. That's how their jobs work. That's what they're supposed to do. The police don't get involved with the politics. They don't get involved with whether or not the board should have ended the meeting. They don't get involved with whether or not free speech is violated. Those things are for the courts. Nobody gets "arrested" for violations of free speech. They get sued for that, not arrested. I'm sorry that you are just as crippled in your understanding of the law, as you're crippled in your understanding of English. But, you asked the question, and I answered you. If you didn't want an answer to your question, then you shouldn't have asked.
YOU SAID: "You want to attack and act all high and mighty wait it will come back to you."
== Really? How does that work? Any time you're pathetically wrong about something, and someone else calls you out for it, that person is "gonna get it"?? Really? Why is it that sooooo many people (you being one of them) can't just admit when you're wrong? Why not? What's so difficult about it? You posted the original question (clearly because you didn't know the answer). Then, when you get the answer, the person who answers you is the wrong one? Look, dummy, next time you want to say something, SAY IT. Don't disguise your ridiculous opinions as questions. Don't ask questions if you don't want answers.
YOU SAID: "Every time you call someone stupid hope you get 7 times back what you do."
== Well, that was almost a sentence. Congratulations.
YOU SAID: "You get on here to fight with people because of you inferiority complex."
== Dummy, you don't know what you're talking about. And, even pretending that you're correct, and I'm getting on here to fight with you out of an inferiority complex, it doesn't mean that I'm wrong. Either way, you still don't know what you're talking about. You're still barely literate. You still don't understand basic civics. You still can't muster up the courage to actually address anything I wrote, or any questions I asked. You still thought that the meeting wasn't adjourned, when it actually was (meaning, your facts are all wrong). I mean, good grief. Don't sit here and accuse ME of an inferiority complex, while you're demonstrating YOUR OWN INFERIORITY with every word you type.
YOU SAID: "So you do all you can to make others feel as you do."
== Dummy, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! I didn't come to your home, knock down your door, and demand that you listen to me berate you. You asked a question, I answered, and then you jumped into the deep end of the ignorance pool, and spewed the most ridiculously wrong notions you could ever think up. Good grief. Again, next time you don't want answers to your questions, DON'T ASK QUESTIONS!!!
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@deborahroy3528
YOU SAID: "oh I read what you said"
== Then why can't you address anything? Why are you going off on these weird tangents? I don't even understand the relevance? (And, neither do you.)
YOU SAID: "but you play ignorance over every school board"
== Bad Friday night, Deborah? A little tipsy perhaps? What does this even mean? Did you want to try this again when you're sober? What does it mean that I "play ignorance over every school board"? That sentence literally doesn't mean anything.
YOU SAID: "there are elected officials and people with any sense would call in so many complaints they would have to look into these matters."
== Deborah, oh Deborah? Can you make your 8 brain cells operate together for once, and listen to me?? The topic here was about your comment about what the POLICE are supposed to do.
YOU SAID: "They should also let the elected they will loose many votes"
== They'll "loose" votes? So, should they tighten the votes instead? Deborah, seriously now, just stop. Just put an end to this pile of illiterate gibberish. Every sentence you write is riddled with so many grammar and spelling errors that it's just plain embarrassing. You have the literacy level of a 6 year old. Just stop. Go back to school. Take some classes on reading and writing. Seriously, you're doomed to misunderstand literally every concept you come across, when you read and write this poorly. You're a mess. You're an absolute mess.
YOU SAID: "and support and would campaign very loudly against them getting elected again."
== And, this relates to your original comment, how? How does any of this tie back to police upholding the constitution? What in the world are you talking about now?
YOU SAID: "So your little smug comment shows what and who you are."
== Good grief. Ignorance and arrogance are a wicked mix. I suggest you shed at least one of those two. I mean, it's best if you shed them both. But, seriously, drop at least one of them.
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Well, let's see....
She wrote off the bribe money as a charitable donation (tax deduction), thus defrauding the government.
Making this more egregious, her tax deduction was for "helping underprivileged kids get into universities" (while her over-privileged children were the actual beneficiaries, and in actuality, her donation PREVENTED two underprivileged girls from getting admission).
She caused two other girls not to gain admission to the university so that her two girls could get in under false pretenses.
She never intended for her girls to row crew, thus cheating the university out of what they wanted (two female crew rowers for their team).
She bribed program officials and committed mail fraud and money laundry.
She refused to admit any fault for over a year, despite that the had her stone cold on tape. Thus, she clogged up the legal system, once again, by using her wealth and power to cause more trouble.
Should we go on?
And, you should be careful about using an analogy to lying on a resume. Yes, some lies on resumes are not illegal. They'll get you fired from a job, or kicked out of a university, if it's ever found out. But, yes, not illegal. On the other hand, some types of lies on resumes ARE illegal, and can result in jail time.
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@kirkdennis830
No. I'm not going to engage any further if you couldn't even bring yourself to read the first reply. Instead, you read one line, and ignored the rest, and dipped yourself into your delusional little world of thinking you know what you're talking about, while being absolutely disconnected from reality. All of those people PLEAD GUILTY. Money laundering, racketeering, fraud, etc. They all plead guilty. But, you don't want to hear it. You just want to hear that you're "correct" - so you ignore everything but the one line that you think aligns with your delusions, and throw the rest in the trash. Everyone is stupid except for you, including the highest paid legal experts on the planet. So, yeah, go live on whatever planet you live on. I couldn't care less.
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@kirkdennis830
You are proving me correct, and I will not bother with another reply after this. I wasn't even going to make this reply. If aaaaalllllllll of those people pleading guilty (people who have the best attorneys money can buy) doesn't prove to you that they're guilty, then there's really no hope for your sanity. You are claiming, while you don't even know what the crimes were, to know better than those people's own legal teams. And, why do you think you know better than they do? Because you are a delusional fool who lives outside of reality. If you cannot understand why it's a crime to commit money laundering, racketeering, fraud, bribery, tax evasion, etc., and why it's a BAD THING to cause two girls to get rejected to the university in favor of two girls who were not qualified, then there's really no hope for you. Your mind is completely lost, probably forever. You even alluded to this idea of "sport" and stuff, about how you thought they were actually going to compete, demonstrating how little you even know about the situation. They never competed. They never were going to compete. It was never part of the plan to compete. They faked "injuries" after they were admitted. And, the school cannot kick them out for getting injured. So, those girls didn't spend a single minute competing in the sport you're arguing about. Meanwhile, two girls who WERE qualified to compete on the team, didn't get admitted to the university, because those spots were taken up by these people who falsified their credentials, and bribing the coach to help them do it. You said you'd do the same as they did, huh? Well, then you're just as much of a piece of trash.
I'm done. I won't go any further with a piece of trash like you.
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Good grief. The cops weren't there for first amendment rights, dummy. They were there for TRESPASSING. Sheeeeesssssssshhhhhh.
You're darned correct if you think the school board was way out of line. They certainly were. Their policies are ridiculous. And, I hope they get sued, big time. I hope the man who got arrested gets at least $200,000. I hope every other parent of a child in that school gets at least $40,000. The actions of this board are reprehensible. But, the cops were not there for that. The cops were there FOR TRESPASSING!!!! The cops are not judge and jury about civil rights. The cops determine if a trespass has occurred (which it did), and then arrest the offender FOR TRESPASSING!!! Why can't you understand this? The cops didn't arrest the guy for anything he said, the cops arrested the guy because he refused to leave.
And, the real irony in all of this is that it's going to HELP the man's civil case that he was arrested. The school board really shot themselves in the foot (worse than they already were) by having the guy arrested. Now, the guy (and every other parent) is going to have even more ammunition to show that the school board lost their minds and need to be kicked out of office.
But, the cops did NOTHING wrong. If a school official trespasses someone, the cops must first ask the man to leave, and if he doesn't leave, the cops must arrest him. That's how the law works. It doesn't matter what the cops think about the school politics. It doesn't matter who the cops think is right or wrong. The only thing that matters is that the man refused to leave when asked.
Remember, this isn't a public sidewalk, where anybody can go, and it's never trespassing. This is a school. Yes, trespassing applies to public buildings, just like private ones. And, regardless of the fact that the school board was completely in the wrong on every other issue, they had the right to trespass the guy, and the police MUST abide.
This isn't a matter of first amendment rights. The man wasn't arrested for that. The cops don't deal with that. The courts do. That's where those matters are solved. So, why do you think the cops had anything to do with violating 1st amendment rights? What ARE you talking about?
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@keymaker2112
Pfffttt. So, the comment you made has nothing to do with this video? That's your response? Then, you basically backtrack 12 hours later, saying that (essentially) yes, your comment DOES have to do with this video?
Good grief.
Look, backtracker, the cops have ONE decision to make in a situation like this, and that's it. Just one. If the board asks them to trespass the guy, and the guy refuses to leave, then the cops must decide whether there is enough cause for arrest, or not. They don't decide whether it's right or wrong that the board asked them to trespass the guy. They don't act as judge and jury about whether the guy is guilty of trespassing. They make one decision, and one decision only, and that is: did the person refuse to leave when asked? That's it. That's the only decision the cops can make in this situation. From there, it's up to the courts to decide whether the trespass was legal or not.
Sigh.
Just stop pretending to know things you know nothing about. It's really that simple. You don't need to backtrack. You don't need to tapdance. You just need to admit (to yourself) that you don't really understand the civics of these situations, and ask questions before you spew your nonsense. Is that REALLY that difficult?
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@keymaker2112
Pffffttt. And, what EXACTLY do you think would happen to a cop who doesn't trespass someone when the authorities of that building ask the cop to trespass the person? If someone was in your house, and he refused to leave, and you called the cops to trespass the person, and the cop said, "I'm sorry, I don't really believe this person should be trespassed, it's your own problem," what EXACTLY would you do? Good grief. Look, clown, you can sit there and pretend to know things you don't know all day long. It seems to be what YouTube comments are for, for people like you. You like to pretend you know things you don't. But, as much as you want to sit there and pretend, the reality is that if an authority of a facility asks for someone to be trespassed, then the cop must trespass that person. The cop doesn't make a judgment call. The cop doesn't override the law. Trespassing is a very clear and straightforward concept. If you are asked to leave, you have to leave, otherwise you're trespassing.
From there, it's up to the courts to decide whether the authorities should or shouldn't have trespassed the person, whether those charges will stick, or not. But, a cop doesn't make that choice. Good grief. Cops are not judge and jury. That's why we have a court system, and not just cops alone.
In this case, I hope the person who was arrested sues the school/board, and gets a huge settlement, like $200K or higher. And, I hope every parent of a child in that school gets $40K for the ridiculous stuff they're doing. But, the cops did nothing wrong. The cops didn't have a choice but to arrest the guy. He refused to leave when asked repeatedly, therefore he was trespassing. The board should never have trespassed the guy in the first place, of course. But, the cops themselves must abide by the direction of the school board, and trespass the guy, whether the cops agree with them or not.
Go ahead, keep on pretending you know things you don't know. I couldn't care less. People like you are just clowns.
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Well, it depends on what you mean. Large donations to private universities are legal. But, if the applicant is massively unqualified, usually the university still won't allow admission, even with large donations. On the other hand, bribing individuals to cheat on the SAT scores, bribing other individuals to falsify sports status, etc., isn't legal, and falsifies the qualifications, so a university doesn't even have the correct information to decide if an applicant is qualified.
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What a pathetic display. Jordan needs to go sue the virus for causing the shutdown, not argue with Fauci as if he caused it. And, Fauci needs to give an actual number, like, for example, "when we reach 1,000 cases per day, we can go back to normal." What nonsense. Fauci has had a year to contemplate where the "finish line" should be, and how to quantify it. And, Jordan needs to stop screaming at the wind, yelling as if Fauci caused the virus. We have had a half million deaths from the virus, and it would have been 10 million if we didn't take the precautions we did. Neither one of these people behaved appropriately in this meeting.
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Most of this stuff can be Googled pretty easily. But, in brief, the admission department, and the university as a whole, is also a victim. They bribed the coach of the crew/rowing team to help falsify the application and credentials. But, there's no evidence that the university (as a whole) knew that the credentials were falsified. The plan was to falsify the athletic credentials to get them into the school's crew/rowing team (thus, admitted to the university), then fake an injury before ever needing to actually get into a boat and row. The university can't kick them out because of an injury. So, they would get into the university, and never actually contribute to the team that they were brought in to be a part of, and then get their degrees without ever rowing a boat. The main two people who got the money were (1) the coach of the crew/rowing team, Laura Janke, who helped falsify the documents and launder the money, and (2) the "academic admissions advisor" William Rick Singer, who set up the bribes and also laundered the money, by passing it through a fake charity. EDIT: Note, he was not a university employee, he was an independent "consultant" who helped many rich people get their kids into schools via fraudulent means.
You didn't ask, but, the other irony is that the fake charity was supposedly to help underprivileged kids get into schools. Meanwhile, the actual purpose was to do the exact opposite, by blocking underprivileged kids from gaining admission, and to promote over-privileged stealing their admission spots. And, the icing on the cake is that Lori Loughlin (and her husband) then claimed those bribes as a tax deduction.
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No. The issue here is trespassing. That's why the cops arrested him. It had nothing to do with civil rights. Let me give you an analogy. If the man was standing naked, saying the exact same things, the cops would arrest him for being naked in public, not for the things he's saying. Yet, there'd be an ignorant clown like you, thinking that the cops were arresting him for what he was saying, and not because of public nudity. Good grief. If the school board asks him to leave, whether it was right for them to do that or not, then he must leave, otherwise it's trespassing. The cops are not the judge and jury. The cops don't decide whether it was right or wrong to trespass the person. That's for the courts to decide, not for the cops to decide themselves.
I mean, this is the real irony about people like you. If the cops follow procedure correctly, you scream about civil rights and stuff, which don't even apply. If the cops decide to be judge and jury, and decide for themselves who to arrest or not, then you scream about cops overstepping their boundaries.
Get a clue. You don't know what you're talking about.
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What the board did about every topic was ridiculous, outlandish, and I hope they all get thrown out of office. But, the cops do not get to make that call. If the school officials trespass someone, the cops must trespass that person. It's really that simple. The cops are not judge and jury. They make the arrest, and leave the rest up to the courts. Imagine that the cops took a personal stand about someone who refused to leave your home, for example. Would you want the cops to say, "sorry, we're not taking the guy off of your property because we don't agree with your politics, so we're letting him stay"? Oh, and before you say something like "public property, he has a right to stay," nope, sorry, that's wrong. There's a difference between public property like a sidewalk, vs. a building that happens to be owned by the public. The officials CAN trespass people from the building.
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@shooks555
Good gods, could you get any dumber? The 1st Amendment has nothing to do with it. The guy wasn't arrested for speaking. The guy was arrested for TRESPASSING.
Sheeeessssshhhhh.
Here are the concepts you do not understand:
1) You don't understand the difference between public property (like a sidewalk), vs. a building that the public owns (like a school or courthouse or government offices, etc.). You think that people are allowed to just be in a government building when they're asked to leave?? Um, no. Since you don't understand this example, I'll use other examples to illustrate the point: Do you think you're allowed to wander around a school when kids are there? No. Do you think you're allowed to go into a ladies' room and say, "this is public property, I'm allowed to be here"? No. Can you go into a judge's chamber and say "this is public property, I can be here"? No. When the school officials say that someone needs to leave, else be trespassed, then that's how it goes, public building or not. Public property (like a sidewalk) is NOT the same as a building that happens to be owned by the public. Good grief.
2) The cops make one decision, and one decision only, in a case like this. Did the person refuse to leave when asked? If yes, arrest. If no, don't arrest. They don't get to decide whether the trespass will hold up in a court or not. They decide only whether there is enough cause to make the arrest. And, the only cause involved here was whether the guy refused to leave (which he did).
3) Yes, courts throw stuff out all the time, for many reasons. Sometimes it's just leniency. Sometimes it's a wrongful arrest. Sometimes people take a plea. Sometimes there are multiple charges, and the judges/juries have to pick from them. You sit here and cite examples of people getting trespass charges dismissed, as if that's any different than the billion other charges that get dismissed. Yes, getting charges dismissed happens every day. So what? It doesn't mean that the cops shouldn't arrest.
4) The cops don't get to decide about the merits of a case. The cops are not the judge and jury. But, apparently, you demand them to be exactly that. You want the cops to decide whether or not the board had the right to trespass the guy. That's ridiculous. The BOARD decides that!!! Not the cops!!! Sheeessshh. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Look, dummy, I hope that every member of that board gets kicked out of their positions. I hope the man who was arrested sues the school/board. And, frankly, I hope every parent of any child in that school sues the school/board also. I would like to see the man who was arrested get at least $200,000 for wrongfully trespassing the guy, and for the underlying ridiculous policies they're trying to implement. And, I hope every other parent in that school system gets $40,000 from a lawsuit like this also.
But, the cops DID NOTHING WRONG, you moron.
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