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when we look at these maps there is a diffrent response to diffrent people, lets try and analise them and try to predict their outcomes long term
the humanist might see this and say ''look at how many people there are, humans are more interconnected, more wide spread and more developed than ever before, how wonderfull''
the enviromentalist might see this and say ''look at how many people there exist, how can the enviroment deal and sustain such people? how horrible what can we do to prevent long term damage to nature?''
the globalist might see this and say ''look at how far we have gotten as a species, all this interconnected and trade relations must be good for humanity and human civilization overal''
the nationalist might see this and say ''look how many people exist in the world, who knows when massive waves of migrants and refugees may come to our shores if they can no longer sustain this growth, we must defend what's ours no matter what''
all these viewpoints in my opinion have some merrit and truth to them, some people like it, some people hate it, some people view it as progress, others as evil, some as unsustainable but in all cases it seems we as a species have no controle over how civilization develops, we can't stop growing, we can't stop reproducing and those that don't reproduce will find themselves being replaced or swarmed by those that do, such is the way of nature and human behavior.
thus I ask you what will become of us in this dynamic? what future awaits us? who is right? who is wrong? do you disagree on moral grounds? pragmatic grounds? or ideologicaly grounds? is this good or bad? idk but I don't think the outcome will be as great as some people think, nor as evil as some imagine.
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Looking at Turkey one could say it's an expanding power, trying to flex it's military industrial ability and trying to dominate the region it is involved with like a true great power in the region.
I however see Turkey today as a Tragity, a nation with a huge potential and seeing it wasted on it's current leadership, it's hollow focus on regional conflicts and stagnating economic potential because of it's autocratic leadership.
Turkey not so long ago was becoming closer to the western world, towards the EU and was focusing a lot on it's economic development, Turkey unlike most of the middle east is a democracy and a liberal one at that, it's growing population and strong military could have been a great pillar both for itself, NATO and the EU long term, now? most of Europe sees Turkey as a threat, much like the Ottoman empire of before, it's conflicts and engagements with fellow NATO members has become a crack in the Alliance as a whole, it's entanglements within Syria and Libya have made it a constant cost to it's coffers with little benefit to it's people or economy and as we speak Erdogan and his buddies are trying to undermine and destroy Turkish democracy and the rule of law.
Going forward I don't see many great things for Turkey, either it is going to revolt and move towards embracing of the old path of progress set by Attaturk or it's going to continue down it's current neo-ottoman focus towards middle-eastern conflicts and at best pan-turkish expansionism, I don't think it's going to work out well for them if they pick the later option.
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Marcos very few states can produce weapons grade uranium and it's even possible to track the source of it, basically the only way terrorists are going to get their hands on it is if they get it from rogue states (like North korea for example) or if they steal it which Isis tried to do but kinda failed because it was not enriched enough.
as for AI, that's also not easy to get since it uses specialized programing and is only usefull for very specific battle field situations, terrorists just don't have the time, funds or know how to use it well.
the most realistic means of terrorists to gain WMD level weapons would be with chemical or biological agents, they are cheap, easy to make, hard to trace and highly destructive and with advances in laboratory gear even easier to make, technology like CRISPR could produce ebola-pox if it wanted to with enough time and funds, the results could be quite horrific, think millions not a few hundred or thousands.
sadly because it's not as flashy as nuclear weapons or AI most people overlook these types of terroristic threats.
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@lif3andthings763 actually no, africa cost us a lot of money and resources, esspecialy as colonies, which is why Germany was so much richer and more powerfull then the UK despite them not having an empire like France or the UK.
if Europeans wanted to take over africa the only ones who would be able to stop them would be the USA.
it would be super easy if the USA did nothing, all we would have to do is build a fleet, block all food and investment into the continent and then simply embargo everything going in, a few months of starvation would then allow us favorable deals and rights to maintain military bases like the USA does around the world and we have the continent under our controle within a few years with some minor fighting here and there.
idk what you people are thinking, Europe does not have the desire to do this, nor would the USA allow it, im just saying if the USA was not there and Europe actually wanted to do this they could very easily, the hardest parts would be dealing with resistance at home and condemnation from the USA and the UN.
just because you have 2 billion people does not mean it can't lose to a smaller force, that's just silly.
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@arconte2100 I highly doubt they are going to reach those numbers, the 2050 predictions seem bloated already, let alone 2100, global warming, economic prosperity, education, urbanisation, wars and civil wars, water shortages and a less globalistic western world and aging in most of the rest of the world does not seem like those predictions will hold on, sure their population will still rise but I doubt they will reach 4 billion, that's insane.
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@yarpen26 I think your forgeting the biggest player and reason why Russia acts the way it does in regards to their relations with China and Europe which is NATO aka the USA.
It's very much in US intrest to keep Russia and Europe divided, they don't want good relations, they don't want war they want unproductive relations and openly seek to sanction, harras, enforce and promote bad trade relations and military stand off, that way Europe is dependent on US protection, while the Russian economy continues to stagnate, they don't care if China becomes more powerfull in the process as long as Europe remains a close ally the USA maintains it's hegomony.
Europe would benefit greatly if Russian and EU relations were good, all that land, resources and people could be mutual beneficial, problem would be that Russia would have great influence on EU policy which currently we don't trust but as we see with Nordstream 1 and 2, trade is improving which is the first steps needed for improvement, still a long way to go though.
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@mehmetersahin9602 you want war, misery, conflict, terrorism and rapists around the world.
I want peace, open borders is the road to war, you call me names, you wish to see my family and nation be raped, you wish to dehumanze us, wish to stir up resentment and conflict in the west.
You are a totalitarian, ideological driven fanatic who is projecting your ignorance, intolorances and lack of western values onto someone els.
It is people like you that threaten and try to stir conflict who are the ones who want more Hitlers and stalins to rise to power, you want that for Europe and the west so you can get your end times conflict and stir up war between islam and Christianity.
But it won't work, muslims all over the world are rejecting your narrative of war and conflict, the imam of peace in Australia gets death threats from you people all the time but he is brave and will seek to reform islam.
In Europe muslims who intergrate themselves are welcomed, while muslims who seek to divide and controle people (like you) are being rejected, attacked and ridiculed by other muslims like Achmed amoutalep in Rotterdam, the Netherlands and everyone els.
Your era of terror is coming to an end, your words do not controle me, your fears do not hurt me, your hatred does not make me back down, I wish you peace and hope that all borders be raised and violent elements be removed so we can all live in peace, no more support for israeli and US wars, no more tolorance for warmongers like you.
I know the road is difficult, I know you want more immigrants to stir up conflicts, I know force must be used on warmongers like you and the USA but it is a small price to pay for lasting peace, your biggest fear.
Peace be with you, may you find salvation in truth and not war.
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@iamaloafofbread8926 uhhh huh... so the internal issues, the lack of proper law enforcement, the corrupt judges, the political infighting, the incompetent and ideologically corrupt generals who openly give information about nukes to your enemies, the media, the woke ''entertainment'' industry, the online censorship, the progressive military ad, the dimentia ridden president, the election manipulation by big tech and the media, the overal trust in the government being at an all time low, the lack of action against Turkey, Russia or China.
yeah it's just ''shifting'' it's focus, focusing towards a downward spiral, allright.
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@QWERTY-gp8fd like Germany or Japan? Im joking but simple numbers don't matter what matter is military supremacy and israel in that regard has both nuclear weapons, advanced AI, anti missle shields, billions of funds, massive support from the west and US, advanced cybersecurity and a highly nationalistic and military trained population, what more could you need? The idea that they need to wage wars or acts of aggresion and nobody can fight back or that they realy need western aid is just paranoid and delusional to me.
The days that israel is even threatened by anyone realy are over and they are the aggresors now, btw saudi arabia does the same and in many ways is even worse so lets not excuse one and allow the other but condem both sides and treat israel like any other nation instead of a special snowflake that can do no wrong and is weak yet somehow able to bomb, kill and annex lands if they feel like it, it's just bizzar to me and it hurts the west if we can't condem both sides in the region, after 2013 refugee crisis we don't want another US or israeli made crisis on our hands.
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You sound like someone who has no understanding of deterence theory or history, Russia has always been an invading force, the other half of the axis coin when it was the soviet union and the great terror for much before and after it came to be.
Russia does have have PTSD, Russia has Borderline personality disorder and a major drinking problem, they can have all the nukes in the world, they won't do a thing, Russia is dying with it's current leadership they can't stop NATO expansion which is why they are pissed off, they can invade Ukraine if they like, it will cost them dearly, more nations will join NATO, it's always going to be a lose/lose deal for them in the long run.
If Russia is to prosper it has to stop being so authoritarian, it has to embrace more liberal ideas, allow more investment from outside it's own borders, it has to become more friendly with it's enemies and then perhaps it can grow much stronger and much more respected on the world stage, Europe wants a strong Russia but only if a strong Russia keeps Europe free and independent, that's the issue.
Nobody is threatening Russia, Russia is threatening everyone around it for centuries.
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@uther2917 most educated people stay in eastern and southern European parts of the country, mostly cheap labor most effected by the recession of 2008 went to other European nations, the amount of immigration between EU members is quite minimal, the import from 3rd world countries is insane to the point of threatning the existence of whole nations, mostly the UK, Germany, Sweden and France.
The EU is why many European nations were able to trade cheaper goods and services and have free movement of people within EU member states, the Euro currency is also good for trade as is the single market, the EU recently passed a nee trade deal with south america, lowering the price of beef and pork, while potentialy hurting the native beef market, the benefits outweigh the problems.
That being sayd the EU has had a series of setbacks, problems and poor leadership in my opinion but lets also not forget the USA Actions that promotes these developments.
In short the situation is more complex then EU bad, though I don't blame you for thinking this way, I did so too not too long ago.
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How ironic, since the USA had overthrow many democracies it did not like and supported many dictatorships that wanted their support.
The USA is also a "democracy" as are most western nations, they all still engage in wars and crooked, authoritarian policies, they just hide it beter.
Lobbying is a legal form of corruption, which has eroded the democratic and western values of the west and deminished the US respect, authority and competence on the world stage, China would love to make it's own lobby in the USA.
The Europeans are getting sick of constant wars and problems by the USA, we could see an end of NATO.
The USA putting on sanctions on Russia because Russia wants to trade with Europe is what drove the Russian state closer to China, it's easy to see why the USA wants to stand in the way of peace, prosperity and spreading of western values because then they won't be in charge.
Europe's first goal sould be to build a EU army and get out of NATO before the USA invades Iran.
A free society does not need censorship to silence opposition to it's authoritarian powers, we have lots of censorship, so how are we free?
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@AtomicReverend not accuate at all, Russia is no threat to Europe, in fact Russia trades the most with Europe and the sanctions on Russia and Germany are promoted by the USA and it's easy to see why, the USA loves it's power projection and good relations between Europe and Russia stand in the way of that.
We don't need NATO, you need NATO, hell we are likely to go to war with Turkey which the USA has propt up whole waging wars in the middle-east threatning Iran (who just so happen to be a major trading partner for Europe)
The USA benefits the most from NATO, it pays rather little for the amount of influence they get, in exchange for free movement, Logistic support and supplylines for it's wars in the middle-east.
The USA has weakend Europe, caused waves of migrants and is the main reason we even have multiculturalism in Europe, it's not the European media calling white people racists for existing, mostly US media and US NPO's.
The USA even allied with Saudi-arabia who funds most terrorism in Europe to begin with.
I don't think your very intrested in hearing our opinion on the matter, nor do you seem to care that anti americanism is more populair than anti migrant sentiment, the USA won't lift a finger to help us, won't support nationalism for us and most likely will engage in hostile action and support of our enemies to try and destabalize us, I don't like Merkel or the rest of the globalist trash but you do realise globalism is a US ideology one you only resently with Trump, kinda, sorta not realy tried to adress.
Demografics in the USA are much more severe and the retoric much more anti white than in Europe, with exception of the UK and perhaps Sweden.
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@vojislavl6665 yes national socialism is socialism as in your shared article.
Did you read the rest of it though? Socialists used force and propaganda to try and get socialism enacted for their own benefit not because they care about people and it indirectly led to the deaths of millions.
Look we can go back and forth here, you can cherry pick any tiny detail and pretend like it makes your ideology look good, im sure other mass movements that led to war and famine at some point did something good but that's not the core of their ideology, that's not the foundation of their policies and how they are implemented.
You are acting like a ideologically possed person who can't doubt their own ideology and the problems it has caused, the deaths, the famines, lifting people out of poverty for a few years and then collapsing the economy into famines and death is not a stable ideology.
You don't care about economics and neo-liberalism has long since abandoned any ideas of individual freedom or regulations and intervention in the market for the good of the people, the bail outs of banks in 2008 only helped the banks not the people, while the government in iceland did jail the bankers and their practices and are doing fine years later as a result.
There is no perfect economy, there is no total capitalism or total communism anymore, most of the world now has a mixed model of diffrent kinds of policies for each industry which bring diffrent kinds of results.
In Russia the state owns most of the energy companies because that is a key part of their economy which drives investment into their other industries.
In Venezuela they nationalized the oil industry but because of costly and top down socialist programs and lack of investment in new sectors when the oil prize collapsed their economy collapsed.
In the USA they have an almost self sufficient economy and internal market, partly due to capitalism and largely due to annexation and collonial policies during it's first few decades of existing as a state on the continent.
In israel they have a big tech and military industry, in south korea the same.
Some nations are more victims of sanctions and policies by the world bank, like African nations, Russia and Iran.
Im not trying for some gotcha moment, im trying to teach you that Socialism as an economic model has failed time and time again, the people might want it, clever propagandists and violent political actors might force the government to implement their policies but they will generaly bring bad results.
Nations like Sweden and the UK are completly swarmed by migrants which cripple their healthcare system, their economy, their public security and political stability, those most in favor of it are once again mostly socialists who want to bring in more voters for their bad economic policies.
Hell corporations like Google love to work for them since they get to abuse and censor people they don't like because individual rights aren't often supported by socialists, I have to copy this comment to check if it does not get insta censored, more of a side issue unrelated to this but it's super annoying and I never see any socialists authoritarians stand up to it.
Socialism has failed and will continue to fail and drag down more and more nations that capitalist nations will have to deal with, next one to fall I expect will be Mexico, i live in the Netherlands we invented capitalism, the Americans perfected it and profited by it greatly while nationalist and militarist annexation of north America made them the superpower they are today.
Capitalism works, it has flaws because humans have flaws, humanity is greedy and violent by nature, in Socialism and communism even more so.
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@Atrid you do realise much of the multicutural crap (which I agree is cancer) was implemented on the national level and it started in the USA.
Secondly how can the US dollar work for it's fast and international commerce but not in Europe? The southern European nations (mostly greece) sould not have been allowed to adopt the Euro, they ran their economy into the dirt and the EU had to bail them out multiple times, now after a harsh periode of reform they are kinda sorta doing oke but they need a lot more investment and realy they don't have much to offer the world or the EU besides nice holiday locations and good food.
Thirdly most of the migrants come from africa and the middle-east because of US intervention in those regions which destabalized Both them and us, the USA don't mind they can hide from the fallout of their wars, I think NATO sould be disolved, USA is not a very reliable ally, their alliance with saudi arabia is why we have so many wahabi terrorists in the west, nothing to do with Iran btw.
And finaly, yes the commision is not directly voted on and they reserve the right to make legisation, however the parlement must still aprove it and in the past the parlement had no vote at all.
Personality I blame Merkel and her actions during the debt crisis and migrant crisis that made Europe so unstable, she tried to kill two bird with one stone, get cheap slave labor and curb the aging problems of Europe which only angered and divided the whole of Europe, however she is going out and we have a new push by reformers and identitarian movements to try and subvert the EU, I understand where your coming from but the USA won't change, the EU can if it can not then it's truely doomed.
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@manofcultura I actualy hate communism why do you think I dislike the USA so much?
Also you clearly don't know who protected the people who created political correctness.
You have people like Noel ignitvit who created this myth of white privilage, in the USA.
The mossad was the one who provided the means to wage war in the middle-east, it's the USA who in the 1960s implemented open borders and that ideology because of the cold war spread to us.
The USA allong with the UK and France who wanted a less nationalistic and more international and US led global order.
I could go on and on and on, why the USA is most responsable for the cuckery and stupid globalism you see today, that's why both the far right and the far left in Europe is so anti american, even some of the socialists here don't want globalism, look up PM of dennmark for example of things to come.
The USA fears competition from Europe, that's why the USA has sanctions on Russia, Germany and Iran, we trade with them.
Reagan and Thatcher both opened up the borders and sold out to corporate intrest, you have been mislead and misinformed my friend.
But it does not matter, hopefully w can get rid of NATO, hopefully not have war with Turkey (who you proped up thanks for that) and get rid of US globalism, saudi money (your allies) and multiculturalism, the demografics in the USA look even worse then in Europe.
But just keep blaming us for having to clean up your mess, must be nice being that lazy and ignorant.
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there is some truth in what you say, the the UK has a lot of soft power, good military, good economy, it has the pound it could very well totaly change it's main forms of trade and seek more international ties becoming a kind of switserland of the seas, however if you look into the demografics, the youth vote, the elites in charge, the situation in N-ireland and scotland and the current situation with the USA, I think the UK will remain in the single market, try to keep things going as they are, seek to reduce immigration to relax tensions internaly and at some point seek to return to the EU, could be wrong but that's honestly how it seems like it.
I used to support brexit 4 years ago and I still think the vote was nessisary to sake up the disaster policies of the EU, which to a degree it did but the UK won't become truely independent with brexit and they might have been beter off staying in the Union.
they won't get rid of their wahabi muslims or their social unrest anytime soon.
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yeah the AD-L and zionist fanatics sure like to claim that while they bomb countries and antagonize Iran, good impression, you realy know how they tend to talk.
It's a real shame too, they make themselves look bad and very oppresive in the process, I do feel sorry for jewish people who have to deal with how Israel acts, though I would say Saudi-arabia is as big as a problem as the state of israel, though zionists have way more power then saudi arabia in my opinion, just look at the mossad and the Iraq war, or their nuclear program or their bio weapons program, no western nation would be able to do what israel does, it's both impressive and dangerous to the world.
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@grantlit2196 communism is always forced upon people, subverted into institutions and almost always can only be removed by force and has led to more deaths, starvation and misery then any other ideology in human existence.
it's quite bizzar how some people (not you) still defend this ideology and the reason why ''western liberalism'' is no longer working is because it is no longer driven by capitalism, free markets, human rights and sanity but instead is driven by emotions, regulations, corporations, government spending and controle over economics.
I partly agree, most other nations can't be democracies or show great resistance against them and it's unrealistic to try and shove them in, better to lead by example not by force i would say.
the USA is special in that it's location is perfect, has expanded through war and treaties, has no external enemies and has vast amount of resources and little to no internal conflict like say with the natives (since there aren't many around) ironically the USA form of collonialism was one of the harshest ones around, European colonies were quite mild in comparison which is why decolonalism even happened and it's even more ironic how people remember it as being so horrible yet very few people make the same comparison to the USA and the reason is because the USA is so powerfull and everyone wants to be their friend and not insult them by telling the truth.
btw I don't support any form of reparations or whatever, I think that's nonsense but I do take issue with how people seem to demonize European colonialism as the worst thing ever, yet ignore all the other and far more sever ideologies and nations in history, another ones are the ottoman empire, the russian empire, the USSR, South american nations.
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@TorianTammas speaking the language is just a small part of representing the governed, the USA went in thinking they could turn it into a nation state with western values and what not, which was just stupid and some people at the start pointed it out, much more reasonable would have been to make a constitutional monarchy or just a monarchy to begin with and have them rule as your puppet, even then it does not always work out but that would have lasted much longer than the weak government the USA set up.
im not too sure how the British and Russians did or their mistakes but in the case of the russians it had a lot to do with the USA backing the rebels and the russians having poor tactics but before Afganistan has been taken over before so it's not impossible just very hard.
the USA has a habit of going to war with nations which it knows it can stomp with ease and also has pretty strong allies that it can help to share the burden but the USA has not been engaged in any war with equal forces, the closest is probably the korean war with China or ww2 and even then it was more so the russians doing the fighting than the americans. Today the USA would have a hard time dealing with a war with Russia and/or China and many of the top generals openly say now they can't beat them at the same time alone and would need to arm and prepare their allies for such a conflict which lucky for the USA many alies would probably do but as we see China become stronger economically and Russian being so vital for EU energy sources the US-EU alliance as well as US-Japan-Korean alliance becomes more difficult, remember the USA was able to get and maintain it's current army due to being the world's biggest economy, the USA might lose that to China as well as lose the scientific race if it lags behind.
The USA is by no means doomed but me a European citizen looking towards the USA can see the cracks and the disfunctional behaviour in US leadership and ability to project force, if I can see it then so can the US enemies, hell the USA lost a war game with a Swedish sub and had one of it's aircraft carriers hit and a few weeks ago they lost another war game to the British, there is still room for improvement and China does already have some advantages in terms of cybersecurity and hypersonic missles, it's very concerning.
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funny how Venuzuwela sits on the largest oil reserves in the world, while saudi arabia and the arab states sit in wealth and luxury, funding terrorism around the world, people in venezuwela are starving and fleeing the country and we all pretty much know why that is, im going to say it, some won't like it, probably deny it but socialism is a cancer that never works, sooner or later stagnation, decline, tyrany, always.
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@cheetah694 idk in what universe you live where the russians could use chernobyl as a means of blackmail or how Fukushima relates to a warzone danger, all of these cases it has to do with design problems with the powerplants and human error, there are newer and more advanced nuclear power plant systems, ones that have easy, non human interaction safety nets to ensure you don't have a uncontroled nuclear reaction.
What's amasing to me is how little accidents have happened despite the low amount of effort to innovate is put into these power plants, how immense their potential is and how little the public seems interested in the technology when in fact it's the key to a more advanced and more wealthy society, all the talks of renewables have only led to more coal power plants being opened, all industies going to China with no environment concerns and everyone being more poor as a result while at the same time not putting in the resources and efforts to upgrade nuclear power, it's like the worst choice the world could have made on all fronts.
I be happy to close down older nuclear power plants if they were being replaced by more efficiënt and even safer power plants or could even reuse nuclear waste but that's not being done and that's the major issue here, not nuclear power somehow being unsafe, when in fact it's killed less people than coal has by a factor of like a million.
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@JWPemperor the middle-east is less important anymore, since the USA has become an oil exporter, has become more isolationist and other nations which are allies such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq (kinda) are in controle over the majority power blocks of the middle-east, except for Iran and Turkey perhaps.
Turkey is a major problem, more so than Russia, Russia might be bigger, have more nukes, bigger military but is quite disfunctional, smaller economy, less able to adapt, more dependent on trade between west and east.
Russia does not threaten the west or makes threats to the same degree as Turkey does, so far their worst action has been Cremea which is a very sensitive subject in response to a western backed coup in ukraine, it's complicated.
The hope is that Turkey will somehow come back to their senses to avoid any long term conflict or war if Erdogan gets a heart attack or something, untill then the goal seems to be to contain Turkey and keep them from getting to buddy buddy with China or Russia.
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@awddfg not at all he tried to bring back industry, rejected the pro china line of Obama, stopped wasting trillions in the middle east while China grew richer and more powerfull as a result, he was pro free speech and enforced it strongly and he attempted to make his allies pay more for NATO which many European nations did not meet their standard contributions pay.
not only that but Trump was an enemy of the mainstream media which is a major tool of division and conflict in the USA, he never was isolationist, he was focused on empowering the USA for when they need to act, his biggest mistake was alienating his allies via the trade war, he should have focused more on China and not seek to aline allies with the US´s enemies.
he was the best president ever and Joe Biden is cutting down everything good he has done, Biden will truely weaken the USA, though at least he won´t stop the tarriefs Trump put on China for now but the media will continue to divide the people and censorship will continue to erode trust in the USA as a nation with real values.
I hope Trump wins again in 2024, hopefully no new CCP virus to destroy the economy he worked so hard on to improve.
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@awddfg what does that even mean? honestly what does it mean? do I wear a tin foil hat and believe in lizzard people or something? no I don't, im simply describing a well known fact of real world politics, you can look everything up about the Taliban how they were formed and who were funding them, there is nothing ''conspiracists'' about it, the fact is that you only react like this because it is easy to be ignorant, it it easy to not look up the facts, it's lazy and means you can live in your little bubble and dismiss any new information that comes at you in life.
you got censored off the internet? conspiracy, some important billonair sex island guy commits suicide while being in prison? conspiracy, the government is spying on it's citizens? conspiracy, terrorist cells trained and funded by inteligence service to fight soviets? conspiracy.
it's lazy, it's pathetic and silly to take you serieusly if you honestly think like this, frankly it's childish, grow up the world is a complex place, at the very least think for yourself and don't just repeat what your told to act like whenever someone tells you why your wrong.
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@definitelynotacheater ''Erdogan said Turkey’s application to EU continues and a few months ago prior to that he said ‘We saw Turkey’s future in Europe’, he is into the West too as I said. But for me, I dont think Turkey will ever get into the EU.''
Turkey getting into the EU has major problems for many reasons, the major problem is not that Turkey is majority muslim, nor that Turkey is somehow less authoritarian compared to other nations that already are in the EU, the major 2 reasons I would say why Turkey can't/won't be allowed into the EU is because of the schengen agreement and because Turkey's economic and demografic influence could change the balans of power within the EU structure.
the schengen area or free movement of people within the block is problematic because then many turkish people could move to the west and we would have a border with unstable nations like Syria, Iraq, Georgia and close to other potential conflict zones, right now Turkey is a buffer between those nations and you can see that the EU wants to keep it that way which Erdogan also tries to exploit by threatening to use refugees within Turkey as some sort of biological weapon.
the other reason as mention is the EU is currently run by Germany-France-Netherlands-Italy and somewhat Poland, allowing Turkey in would disrupt this balance of power which is already unstable, if turkey were to join the EU, Poland would be upset, Germany and France would be weaker, Italy and Netherlands would also be upset to a degree, overal it would make the EU stronger but internally it would be much more unstable which is something they can't allow right now.
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@definitelynotacheater ''8) Lastly, I know you guys have a negative view about us because of Turks in Germany/Netherlands/France etc but majority of them come from the eastern rural regions and even us make of them calling names like ‘alamancı’ . They do not represent us. I know there are many good respectful Turks too but they dont represent us either. Every indivual represent themselves. Kick foreigners who doesnt respect the country’s rules and refuse to adapt. And dont let islamists get power. Seriously if the videos I saw on youtube is real, number of islamists in Europe is really concerning. Just a few days ago Chechens and Kurds in France were killing each other and it looked like a civil warzone from M.E instead of France. Peace ✌🏻''
yes most people have negative views on turks and muslims in general due to terrorism and hostility by Erdogan and saudi organisations, though Turks are more respected than many other groups.
the ironic thing is that many nationalists, conservatives faced more hostility from their own native people and from left wing groups than they did from pro islamist groups, we warned them about these groups since early 2000s and 2010s and we were all attacked by the esablishment and media as ''radicals'' and ''far right''
now skip to 2021 and suddenly most things considered ''far right'' in the early 2000s is now mainstream political policy, if they had listened to us along with most of the public a lot of bloodshed and humiliation would not have happened and many of the more hostile policies towards islamist and islamic populations would not have been nessisary, hell I doubt you even would have had Brexit so to say the EU, Merkel and others failed to see this coming would be an understatment.
France is one of the worst places right now in Europe, same with Belgium, the UK, Germany and Sweden, we also have many of these types of problems in the Netherlands but not nearly as the same degree as other nations.
if I pick the one who is messing up the most I think it would be the UK, since Sweden is very small in terms of population, Germany while bad still has some hardline police, France is openly resisting now but the UK has multiple problems, a totalitarian government i would say and almost no proper resistance towards it, it's fully abandoned it's senses on top of Brexit being problematic for them, I would not be suprised if Scotland and Northern ireland leave the union, that's how bad it's getting there.
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here is an idea, if demografics are an issue for Russia long term as most of the western world in general, perhaps Russia could consider trying to join the EU and making concession policies to ensure peace and to rejuvinate the Russian population problem by ceding territory from cremea and Kaliningrad oblast.
it would be a bit easier to manage, it would be a show of good faith towards Europe and the EU, Russia and the EU might consider an old style population exchange or encourage migration of ethnic russians back to Russia, perhaps if membership of the EU and potentialy free movement of people were possible then they might see a swell of migrants who are mostly western or russian by culture and could assimulate to Russian society.
Cremea has 2,284,00 people, 65.3% of which is Russian
Kaliningrad Oblast has772,534 Russians (86.4%)
of course with the current tensions with NATO and the west this seems unlikely but long term if done correctly with a stronger EU and a less hostile US relations it could work and since China is still growing stronger it might be in their intrest as well to seek a greater alliance against a common foe, in Europe Russia would be a powerfull member of the EU with China they would be servant
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I miss Donald Trump, best President ever.
The loss of Afghanistan has more to do with the weakness in US military engage protocol, the USA could have easily crushed the Taliban and created a much more competent and stable Afgan government but that would mean much more brutal and extensive acts of war which the international community, the UN and the american people (and therefor elites elected by said people) would not support, ironically had they gone with that there would likely been less deaths, destruction and an end to the fighting, if China takes the place of security arm in the region your going to see a swift and quicky won victory over the Taliban but no chance of democracy being formed.
The USA is a very warlike nation and has always been so ever since the revolution against the British but as technology has advanced and communication became more clear many americans now dread the realities of war, same with Europe btw, China and Russia get away with their acts of war or human rights abuses because of their state propaganda, censorship and authoritarian systems of government.
I fear China and Russia have to remind the west on what happens when you stop waging proper wars, others do it for you on their terms.
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@viktator4205 so does most of the western world, including the USA and esspecialy the UK and Sweden.
Russia is pretty big and shares borders with many muslim majority countries so it's no wonder they have more immigrants, esspecialy because of their demografic problems, that being sayd if the west under the USA did not engage in constant sanctions perhapd they could invest more in their own people, which btw the Russian goverment has tried to do, unlike most western nations.
Being part of a "gene pool" or rather "national identity" takes more effort then being an individual, your born an individual, you can mostly work for your own individual gains, convincing others to join your side as a strong, collective actualy takes a lot of effort, those who fail to do so will become victims by those that do, otherwise you would not have a state of Israel, a European civilization, a Chinese civilization, a US civilization, it's the base line one we have negelected and paying the price for our neglect.
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@nightly3225 well China is very much in Africa which could clash with say France´s interests in africa, if the USA or anyone els starts a major conflict with China those regions could flair up as well.
Antarctica is likely to become more and more ice free and will thus become a regional conflict for Russia and certain European countries, including the USA, while not worth a war on it´s own it could come into dispute and motivate Russia to side with China in such a conflict.
as for the middle east, factions already exist within it, mostly towards israel, the USA, Iran and Russia, if China starts playing there game there too it could become a hotbed as well.
predicting the future is always tricky and never 100% accurate just assumptions and probabilities, ww1 did not just happen because of a single shot, it took years of minor conflicts, shaky alliances and a warmongering cultural elite to make it happen, the shot that lit the powder keg was just that, hell Bismark even predicted it would happen saying ´´probably some idiotic issue in the balkans would cause a massive war between the European nations´´ he was correct.
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@leto.o5759 if China invaded Taiwan today it would be a regional war and the rest of NATO and Asia would respond, China would be surrounded from all sides and just starved out, they would attack from all sides and would be repelled from all sides, unless they break through all that they can't win and they know it.
which is why China needs allies all over the world so when it does something like that, that's what makes a world war a world war, there has to be fighting and conflicts all over the world, during ww1 people all over the many empires came and fought in the war, in ww2 even more so with more conflicts in between some starting even before ww2 was offically going.
ww3 is going to be fought in the regions that are most contested, which is Africa, Europe, Asia and on the seas.
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@e1123581321345589144 I sayd most not all, the african people work hard but have no machines, no infrastructure, esspecialy not in central Africa, africa also has no deep water ports and like you sayd the local tribalism and lack of western style institutions makes it a very unstable place.
Braindrain from the west is also a major problem, now if they Just studied in the west and went back home to enrich their local economies that's diffrent, most of them decide to work in the west, which the governments and big corporations like but alienates the natives.
Africa has to play at what they have in abundance which is resources, food production (with modern technology) and solar energy production, to do that they need infrastructure and energy projects funded by other nations or themselves but to secure that investment they also need protection, so perhaps mercenaries? Private military contracts? China? They still have to implement property rights in much of their nations and try and reduce corruption.
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@breanainnlyness7910 ironic since all of Europe are ethnostates, israel is an ethnostate, China is an ethnostate (han Chinese) the USA for a long time was a white ethnostate, the truth is most nations are ethnostates the exceptions are former colonial countries which have a disputed ethno-cultural identity which often leads to conflict between natives and non-natives, like in south africa, israel (colonial country), western Europe between migrant populations, things like multiculturalism have often only been forced through authoritarian rule and oppresing of people, like with the mongol empire or south america which had the biggest and cruelest slave trade.
Ethno nationalism is not ignorance, ignorance is multiculturalism and globalism, you are correct that no nation is "pure" because people move around and wish to assumulate to the core culture, things like multiculturalism and pro immigration elites aren't intrested in assimulation, only replacement and deconstruction of core people's, like israel is to the palastinians, the Euro-americans to the native americans, the han Chinese to tibet, it's realy no diffrent from old Adolf's lebensraum concept.
People assimulate or they replace cultures, nations, religions and people's, it's like evolution, except it's not realy natural selection, more artifical selection, unless organic with no forced political supression of natives which is almost never the case.
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@breanainnlyness7910 I don't think you understand what ignorant means.
It means you don't understand something, like you are doing right here by denying that culture and ethnicity are connected, this is how cultural identity works and you sound like the type of authoritarian who would call others copying other people's culture cultural appropiation, yet deny the existence of a people when it suits you, how can you copy something that's not separate from you?
I understand the world and have studied and learned from many diffrent cultures, people's and history that's why I know there are diffrences.
Have you ever worked with people from Poland? China? Ghana? Spain? The Netherlands? Would you say they are all the same or that their culture is not linked to their identity?
Ask any doctor and they know where people come from, their genetics and therefor their ethnicity matter for medicine.
Voting paterns in diffrent demografically and diffrent ethnic groups matter, that's why politicians try to cater to collective populations voting blocks because they are different from others, this is not very hard to understand but it seems like this is some advanced rocket science for you to grasp.
I understand how you are ignorant, irrational and dishonest about culture and ethnicity because it's easy to be lazy and it's hard to understand the diffrences between diffrent people, perhaps if you experience the world and other people more you will come to understand my point.
No wonder the han Chinese are taking over the world, they have a good understanding of themselves, they have a unified population while here in the west I have to try and explain to you how civilization works.
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@toddharig8142 clearly you never met a nationalist before, I find your comment very amusing but also sad because the truth is that globalists, corporatists and progressives tend to rely on shunning everyone but the strong (aka the rich), creating pages of pages of dehumanzing propaganda and they are far more ruthless and manipulative then any nationalist alive today which includes actual fascists.
There is no capitalism, there is corporatism which means the government must create the Tyrany for them in the first place, it was not capitalism that forced a global lockdown due to a disease, that's the state the same state leftists, socialists and progressives want to empower even more and believe libertarians are the same as fascists.
The USA was based on racial nepotism and expansion through war, that's how they became a superpower in the first place, China today the second largest economy in the world is 99% han Chinese, India wants to be the same kind of country with a strong hindu identity.
Meanwhile in the west we allow rape gangs to run free because our police don't want to be called racist, can't have any promotion of our own population growth without being labeled nazi's, how els would you preserve and create a new pan European identity without using the identities of the European nations and people's that exist in the first place? Seems very irrational and illogical to me, almost anti white and racist to presume otherwise.
But from your use of language I don't think you are intrested in any logical, rational, mature conversation, more likely trying to convince your own ideology of being somehow superior while ignoring reality, well as long as you don't wish to censor me or use violence to defend your corporations I don't mind, I just hope we can stop the mass migration waves before democracy is destroyed from within which it already has to a large degree.
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@toddharig8142 ahhh I see your a leftist troll, no use talking to you then, I do hope you read some more US History, basic economics, demografics and about the current anti white racism that's at work in our society today.
Things like "white privilage" is racist by it's very intention.
I would try and anwser your questions in more details but that would be 20 pages long, cause your defence mechanisms to kick in and most likely my comment would get censored at the 2e page by youtube.
USA was very special in it's collonialism you sould read up on it, it's rather intresting, in fact the EU is at it's core an attempt at copying the US model for superpower status, except we messed up by adopting the anti white and multicultral policies of the USA too, which is why our societies are in such great decline.
I'm having a hard time taking you serieusly if you refuse to look at things objectively and with a more critical and open minded mindset, it's sad realy.
Do you think the UK is beter off due to mass migration and state enforced multiculturalism? I think it's utterly backwards and regresive.
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@toddharig8142 sorry did not read all, I don't think you are realy worth talking to since you are kinda stuck in a leftist loop mindset of thinking im somehow a "white supreemist" while ignoring the effects of demografics and actualy policies made by the EU and it's goal as a organisation, how pretending ethni-city does not matter in a collection of nation states based on ethno-cultural identities is beyond me.
I feel like your stuck in a loop where if someone mentions say nationalism, you automatically respond with certain defence mechanisms, try to change the subject or make assumptions and then believe your assumptions are true.
If I mention the ra-pe cases by isl-amic groo-ming gangs in the UK, you say that does not matter or X is a bigger deal or you believe X matters so you must be a na-zi, how would anyone be able to make you doubt your own authoritarian believes and anti whi-te rac-ism if anything someone says can be warped into somehow being w-hite supreemism?
Regardless if you think it does not matter or whatever assumptions you think are true, in real politic and in power politics, demografics matter, that's how Russia was able to get a vote in one cremea, why the state of israel exists, how peace came to Europe after a series of population exchanges after ww1 and ww2, why the british government needs to censor people's opinions if they offend certain people, why terrorism happens on all sides in western nations, why certain political parties like pro migrant parties in Europe exist, due to immigration in the first place.
I don't understand why you pretend like these things don't exist, don't matter or why you would write pages of pages of word for word responses rather then adressing the overal message of the comment, idk how I would be able to convince you nor would it realy matter since what actualy influences society is demografics, education, censorship, media, government action and immigration policy more so then rational debate which we aren't realy having right now because I can't seem to break through your ideological bubble your in.
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@ebonytv3414 that´s nonsense, in fact they one of the most secure, stable, wealthy, free and the capable nation in the world, the world is their pearl and they defend it even from minor threats which in most cases makes it seem weak by exadurating threats and using full force against any such foe, even while it would cost them more and not win them any favors in the long run.
if anything the USA is a victim of it´s own greatness, believing themselves that they can do no wrong, that they are so free that giving up certain freedoms won´t be as bad in the long run, that they can afford to ignore problems in their communities and that the elites in charge become out of touch and feel like nothing can hurt them.
I don´t even like the USA that much, esspecially their government but they aren´t realy evil or scared, they are corrupt and incompetent, as is most of the western world right now.
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@francesconicoletti2547 well all they would have to do is cut wellfare for all citizen, while they bring in their millions of "migrants" then everyone would have to invest in their own society instead of what we see today which is "no I don't want kids, someone els their kids will take care of me when im old, lets party and let other people take care of my bastards because i'm special"
The government can't create it can only steal and redistribute, if the government were to cut all taxes, all social spending, all woman quota's and other nonsense, then natural selection and personal responsability will become the law of the land, the biggest threat then are huge corporation that benefit from large and corrupt goverments.
Charity for the poor will become populare again because people (real shocker this one) don't like starving children and bums around their town.
Police care barely protect anymore, uselesd most of the time and a danger to society because in most countries your not allowed to defend yourself if attacked, perhaps keep only the intelligence agency around for combating terrorism and political subversion.
But the government does not want that, they love their slave labor.
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@hendrikdependrik1891 ''mass defamation of the Dutch by Latin countries might be more interesting for the near future.'' no idea what your talking about here, dutch btw.
Germany is not weak, in fact the main power drives in the EU and Europe in general is Germany, France and the Netherlands, of course they don't want to give money to the southern and eastern European states without getting something back in return, Poland has benefited the most from trade within the union, only countries like Italy, Spain, Portugal and greece have not realy benefited though that's more their own fault and partly the disfunctional traits of the EU and waves of migrants that cause stress and conflict, we already pay for most of the rest of Europe, we don't mind to pay as long as we can have a voice in trying to change things for the beter and in that respect most of Europe can learn a thing or two from Poland and visa versa.
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@DanielKivari i think that's rather ironic since the USA through economic and military might keeps other nations from competiting in the same way the USA had done for more than 200 years now, I don't see the current USA or the civic nationalist states as the next evolution, I see them as very regresive, much more tribal, backwards and irrational than some of the more early ethno states, though i do agree the old tribalism of the 19th and 20th century is no longer the best system to have, nations are being forced to adapt or remain stagnant, what we see most likely to replace it is continentalism, we see this in organisations like the EU but also the african union and the south american economic union, what they however still lack and what makes them not as effective is their over reliance on the USA and an embrace of the more backwards parts of civic nationalism and globalism.
the USA of many years ago was much more stable and more civil than today, while nations like China under their more authoritarian model and a ethno identity are way more ahead compared to the west today.
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@vojislavl6665 the first wellfare state was made by Bismarck a conservative, the wellfare state is more of a nationalistic and community based system of a distribution of wealth, Socialism aka unions, labor groups and nationalisation of the economy are means to controle and distribute the means of production, in communism the state has direct controle, in national socialism the state rules it's economy through corporations, called corporatism, current day China is a lot like national socialism.
Take unions for instance, unions aren't realy mean't to give workers beter pay, unions are mean't to get benefits and protectionist policies, in the UK the metro networks are controled by the unions, they influence the government to enforce licence for their specific job and they controle who gets such a licence, so they are almost never fired, they don't grow the economy, they ensure the economy stagnates.
In venuzuwela they nationalized the oil industry and the government gave out all kinds of goodies like mircowaves, cheap housing, consuming products because oil prices were high, they did not diversify their economy which as a result when oil prices collapsed so too did the economy of venuzuwela.
Socialist movements are less about the people or providing benefits to citizens and more about controling the economy, it always needs authoritarian means to enforce it's policies and long term the economy always stagnates.
In sweden the so called "socialist" ideal state, the economy is largely free market with a rather large wellfare state and the biggest problem there is mostly progressives and socialists that want more and more immigration to replace workers rather then support their intrests.
The only some what socialist I have seen in Europe at least that cares about workers is the current PM of dennmark that also wants protectionist policies but in terms of migration laws and benefits to it's citizens.
Idk what your idea of Socialism is but I don't think you understand how historically socialism had failed, you could argue because of how large multinational corporations have become that some form of government intervention aka neo-liberalism is nessisary but this has led to corporatism.
And on a short note of healthcare, the USA has such a expensive healthcare system because 1. It's people are largely unhealthy and fat, 2. The government is highly involved with medicade and medicare programs, 3 private healthcare providers compete with eachother, get to enjoy pricefixing while the government takes their share of the profits, in Germany and in the Netherlands we have a mixed model where we have private healthcare but all of the corporations are partly backed by the government, not socialist healthcare unlike the UK which is currently failing and can't provide healthcare to most of it's citizens anymore, esspecialy elderly.
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@roush26 you are very brainwashed by the media and delusional.
conservatives want to defend their values, be it good or bad, everything you just sayd is reverse, people vote in socialist and leftwing goverments when times are bad, they tend to stick to conservative values when things are good.
when a right wing party rises to dominance, it's mostly when the leftwing parties have ruled for so long, with so much corruption and bad policies that they will take a risk with a populist, a conservative or even nationalist to turn things around.
you don't get Donald Trump as president, if not for 8 years of Obama first, you reap what you sow.
besides neo-cons and neo-libs are corrupt and warhawks no matter what, stop viewing the world in this childish black and white view point that's how the powerfull divide and rule over you, im a nationalist and a libertarian so best of both worlds.
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@Ifraneljadida no it's not, it's might makes right and what's good now, will be deemed evil later, what works now won't work tomorow, there is no true balance between the two, there is only irrational and rational and it's almost never clear which is which.
people are easy to control and divide by any issue, what brings the decline of nations is an internal rot from within, trust in traitors, love for enemies, hatred for your own people, desire for death and misery that is what brings decline, the western world right now is in such a phase, Trump or obama, this started decades go, this is just the new form, 4 years from now it will be diffrent still but it will probably be more of the same.
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@Hello World true, it's not all genetics, ideology and goverment institutions matter more than race but to say they don't influence the outcomes is also false.
Eastern Germany was taken via war, north korea via civil war, Iran was a democratic country untill it got a coup supported by the USA, now they have a theocracy but they suffer the most because of US sanctions.
Russia today is a somewhat capitalist (though more mixed) economy, yet it does not reach the same level of development because of US sanctions.
Africa is poor because of a lack of deep water ports, their populations are highly isolated and have low IQ populations because of their isolation.
China was communist and still has it's communist party but it has a market, it's communist only in name and totalitairian controle, much more like national socialism, very high IQ populations, all these things play a roll, it's why africans in the US and Europe often can't prosper because of their lower IQ, though the leftwing likes to blame whites for that without any evidence.
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@LegendNinja41 so you are in favor of population transfers? too bad the west backed a coup and so the Russians acting in their own national intrest, looks bad on them if they abandon their people to another nations mercy, that's just the way it is.
you are acting on a dubble standard, the west can engage in whatever way they want but Russia can not? Russia faces sanctions by the US that costs Europe billions as well as Russia billions, the USA is now targeting Nordsteam 1 and 2 which would give Russia a way to sell more gas to Europe.
and about independence, idk if you heared but Catalonia in Spain voted to leave but the spanish goverment and support from the EU denied it, don't pretend like one is not the same like the other, Russia faces a lot more hardships than the rest of Europe so their behavior is not that strange.
besides all these sanctions are just bringing Russia closer to China, making Putin stronger because the Russians see him as their great leader, I think the USA wants bad relations between the west and Russia because the USA wants to keep their power and global military running so they need to fear and warmonger, if we had rejected the sanctions, if we allowed trade to flow, then we could work to divide Russia towards more western intrest.
it was Russia who defended Syria when Obama tried to invade them, the USA can't be trusted anymore, Russia is a starving dog, we need more stability not threats of war.
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@LegendNinja41 the problem however is that it was russian territory and was given to ukraine in the 1980s i believe, what was given can be taken back and many nations have annexed and ethnically cleansed lands that were not theirs, latest of which is golan hights by israel so the idea that this is some huge threat is kinda overblown.
This is however how geopolitics works and Gets messy when both sides have arguments and secret agenda's for proxy conflicts.
Population transfer are a bloody and messy affaire, people resist, people die, need to be relocated, start over, lose their homes, some become terrorists, having Russia annex cremea might not have been the best but might also have prevented further bloodshed.
As for sanctions you are correct the sanctions hurt Russia more then they do the US or the EU but that does not make it oke, it creates conflicts, it hurts people and those who enforce order which is the whole purpose of them, divide the nation of Russia, weaken it to the benefit of the USA, Europe does not benefit, Russia is not closer in our sphere, we can't influence their society in isolation, they get stronger ties with China, much beter plan would have been to lift sanctions on Russia and demand sanctions or limits on Chinese intrest in Russia, divide and rule, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I don't consider Russia a threat, they are paranoid and surely must be matched in greater or equal force in case of a military conflict but trade and diplomatic solutions are beter.
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@MadM0nte ohhhh cute you actualy try to seem clever, how refreshing.
Well duh they Just lost their top general in an act of war by the USA, from what I gathered the air defence saw a plane, thought it was an american plane and shot it out of the sky's, they even apologized for it.
I tend not to try and go into too deep on these kinds of channels rarely do I see any civil or well educated people worth engaging, so I try and keep it simple so they can keep up and don't fall in the typical media traps they like to pretend matters.
As for geo politics, demografics matter because they determine the actions of goverments, which influence geo-politics as im sure you would understand, take brexit for instance, in terms of geo-politics, the british will likely seek closer ties with the USA, as the british have left mostly because of the threat of immigration, caused by geopolitical instability caused by the USA and with the actions of Merkel, again, demografics matters, as we need the rise of nationalist parties all over Europe, largely due to demografically shifts, so too will geopolitical agenda's change.
I happen to agree with you though I would add that the democratic party is less wellfare oriented and more warfare and insanity oriented, the whole democratic debate was a heap of trash and insanity from what little I cared to listen to, only Andrew Yang seemed to have any new intresting ideas at all but you wanted more about geopolitical changes and less about my observations around political and demografic changes.
Most of the world just wants to trade with Iran and Europe wants to trade with Russia, as we see with Nordstream 1 and 2, the only one getting pissed off about that is the USA and some eastern European countries, so this will create a geopolitical issue for the USA, while China continues to buy ports and gains more influence in Europe and Africa, their one belt one road project will continue to expand, while Russia will strugle to get by, potentialy facing implosion if something were to happen with Putin.
You seem rather angry and emotional, please when you respond can you talk like a civilized person? If you wish to learn more you sould just ask, not yell and act like a todler, it makes you look unhinged.
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@MadM0nte except trade with Russia and Iran, then the USA gets scared as hell, because imagine if NATO were to collapse? Europe is basicaly a toll booth for the USA to get it's armys and supplies through and for a long time this went on without much problems, now however the USA has pissed off most of it's "allies" and wants to continue to stand in the way of working together which would be against US intrest.
But I sure hope the US military and goverment elites think like you do, then perhaps we can get rid of NATO sooner, sadly I know beter and the USA has left a lot of pets for us to deal with, mostly Turkey and the chaos in the middle-east and of course libya.
The USA can continue on without us, they Just can't stand the idea that we can go on without then, thus sanctions and endless fearmongering and warmongering, the people aren't that stupid, ask any random European and they are against the US goverment and they will tell you why.
ps : it ain't about your freedoms
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@telltellyn well at least we can both agree on that last part, right, left, it's all lies most of the time.
I just don't see this as being very corrupt, perhaps it is abuse of power but he won't resign from it, won't effect his relection, in fact all this time spend on impeachment is wasted time that the democratic party could have spend on promoting ideas, policie changes, all I see is a lot of anti white racism, stupid shit and old, rich, white corporatists asking people to vote for them.
If I were Trump I would worry more about the inevitable media attempts to promote violence against Trump supporters and Trump himself or the CIA going to wack him then I would the election this year.
Regardless of impeachment or not, weak opponents, untrustworthy media, already president who did an oke job considering everything, no new wars (yet...) And the polls had been wrong 4 years ago with then a "sudden" surpise win for Trump, while some people already saw Trump was likely to win.
If the democrats are smart they will try and remove the electoral college if they can, many already argued "populair vote" which kinda explains the lefts love for immigrants and wellfare spending.
Perhaps it's best we agree to disagree, unless you know something I have not realised or can't see, I want to know if it's new info i have not considered.
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@dadsonworldwide3238 the germans got pretty far with what little they had, I find it very hard to believe they negotiated an end to collonialism, since every European power wanted to enforce their collonial rule but was stopped by the USA, you even had opperation unthinkable that would have liberated the rest of Europe which was supposedly the whole point of the war to begin with but the USA sayd no.
The USA is hypocritical because it's propagandized this image of "freedom loving, americans, liberating Europe from the evil nazi's" but in reality the nazi's were the closest to manifest destiny of the USA, the USA was what inspired Hitler to begin with, there is reason why they banned his books for so long, you read worst things on youtube comments everyday.
But the issue i have is not on any moral grounds, it's the lies, the fabrication and theft of European culture, citizens, media and history for the gain of the USA, while communism was left to ravage the world.
The USSR was largely incompetent, ruled by an even more totalitarian leader than Hitler, the whole of ww2 is a giant joke to me, of lying self intrested people and nations on all sides and nobody has learned anything from the war.
But I don't care about all that much since it"s not going to change, the USA has enforced it's will, tricked the british, betrayed the west and took what they wanted, what my issue is that NATO sould not exist, the USA sould not be in any other country besides their own region and perhaps Japan and south korea, yet they expanded more and more, use sanctions to kill millions and use wars and arming of terrorists to finish the rest, the USA loves the current order because they benefit the most from it.
The USA hates peace and loves war, they love "free trade" but only if they benefit most, they hate theocratic goverments but ally with saudi arabia and israel, they say they respect nations but ignore problems that makes that a delusional fantasy.
What future is there with the USA? Non, worse than non, as long as nations buy US military goodies they are happy, if they want independence and self determination they will make threats and sanctions.
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@dadsonworldwide3238 yes I read all about the middle-east and those treaties, typical people say read more on history when they lack an understanding of it, I don't realy have that, I read all the history books, most of the banned books and books on power and goverment institutions.
Not very important in the Grand scheme of things, much more important would be the partition of british mandate of palestine into the state of israel and palestine, which is the flashpoint for most wars in the middle-east today.
WW2 was mostly a unessisary war that destroyed Germany because of the poor decisions made by the british, the americans and the french, not having population transfers after ww1, blaming the war on Germany (while austria-hungary caused it by threatning serbia with their insane ultimatum), combine that with the stab in the back myth by german generals and the monarch elites and the rise of communism partly led by jewish intelectuals like Rosa Luxemburg and Leon Trotsky (see spartacus rebellion, Bavaria) stoked the fires for a wave of anti semitism.
Something most history books will fail to mention.
As for India, the british raj was quite brutal in it's crackdown of protests, starvation caused by Winston Churchill actions to ensure food rations were filled for the war made India rebel again.
But it was the americans and their involvement because of the Zimmermann telegraf that "forced them" into the war that was the most stupid act by the USA, the USA for decades wanted isolation and denied any attempt by European empires to gain influence on the two continents while the USA could just get involved with European affairs.
The true irony is that Germany in ww2 basicaly tried to copy the USA's manifest destiny, just a few centuries to late to be tolorated by the other powers, the UK lost the most while they could have kept their empire they decided war was the beter alternative then sharing influence with Germany.
Im not here to make excuses for what the germans did in ww2, simply saying the Actions by the british and americans contributed more to the german reactions during the war then they like to admit and in the end, they simply traded one despotic tyrant in for an even worse one Stalin.
And now we live in the shadow of the fiction that largely is ww2, not because it did not happen but because history is not remembered at all, every year we repeat the same puppet show while we ignore what caused it, dooming humanity to repeat it again.
Fdr was praised by Hitler and Stalin for his new deal, he was basicaly the third dictator in the making, though as they say, the victor writes the history books.
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@MAamir-co3xm I don't care about minor terrorists, im talking about the big boys, the USA has funded hundreds of terrorist organisations all over the world, supplied them with guns, high tech rockets, information, sometimes bailed them out of prison so they could go an attack other countries, terrorists are like modern day pirateers, the state uses them for proxy conflicts and if they are caught they claim plausable denialability.
Isis, el Qaida, SFA, gurrila groups in south america and multiple coups in many nations, which includes Iran.
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@TosiakiS ohhhh no you don't understand, im not saying they can't get their hands on the software, that's the easy part, im just saying terrorists specifically won't be able to make much use of it because it's one thing to have the software, the other is the hardware and weapons systems to make effective use of it, the amount of time and know how you need to make it work is just not something terrorists will be bothered with, unless they are state supported perhaps?
terrorists can buy a shit ton of TNT, poison, chemical weapons, explosives, make IED's or just commit acts of suicide bombing for way cheaper.
now will that always remain the same? who knows? but I doubt terrorists will make much use of it, it's just not practical for their type of asymetrical warfare.
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@TosiakiS explosives are much simpler than most people think, in the west you need explosive experts to difuse bombs and mines safely and minimize damage, terrorists don't typically abide by those standards and are mostly focused on how to make things explode, IED's are quite simple to make, all you need is an explosive matterial which could be Nitrate or an incendiary material which could be gas, gasoline, alcohol, methonol most of which are easy to get, and a trigger and that's basically it.
some simple household chemicals can be used to syntheses some of those materials and you don't realy need an advanced chemisty degree to know how to make em, most of the know how is online and terrorist cells often copy blueprints and easy instruction manuals to spread information on how to make explosive.
now if your talking about the very big explosives, like say in rockets and military grade weapons, yeah those are bit harder to make since they use multiple layers for different types of rockets and use more highly explosive matterial which is both hard to find, make and turn into weapons, terrorists don't realy need those though, a simple pipebomb, some TNT and a car or IED gets the job done.
I studied chemistry for my laboratory degree, so I have some understanding on how explosives work.
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@dennisgichohi5392 because the west is not in africa, these are states that act and destabalize themselves, if you've ever been to or seen african countries you will see they have very different mindsets than western people, first off most don't believe in democracy, secondly most value their tribal identity over anything else, nepotism is everywhere in most african countries and third most of these nations don't have anything other to offer international trade besides resources, if they weren't being ''exploited'' then they would have zero investment at all, in fact some argue due to aid from the west, africa is less developed because they can't compete with free goods.
the irony is that before decolonisation this was not the case, tribal groups were kept in check, western investment flowed into these places and places that were the most exploited like the congo was during the reign of leopold the second who ruled it less like a colonie and more like his own personal kingdom where he could do whatever he liked, even the people at the time said ''yo dude chill the fuck out would you, your making us look bad''
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@ytyt3922 it's weapons first came from Europe actual, then later on the USA, the whole concept of israel was drawn up by the zionist movement and the UN, it's basicaly the last colonization project of the western world funded by the west for zionist fanatics, the very existence of it from the start is a declaration of war on the surounding region, not that it matters, might makes right is the law of the land, everywhere, what's worrysome is their nukes, their bio weapons, their acts of war, their assasinations, their influence on western nations and threat to world peace.
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@chitto4054 Iran has not invaded anyone for centuries, they had a coup by the USA, Iraq declared war on them (iraq got military funds from the USA, this was Sadam btw) which killed 1 million iranians, israel has assasinated scientists, soldiers, generals and has been threatning Iran since 1984, saying they have WMD's, just how the mossad lied about WMD'S in iraq when Sadam was no longer usefull for their goals.
I don't blame the iranian government and it's people for going for radical theocracy and calling israel and the USA the big and little Satan, once you see what they did to them, it makes a lot more sense.
They hate the USA because they killed their people, their children and their future, sanctions kills people, people seem to forget that for some reason.
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@ytyt3922 also I just mentioned that he gets censored from nearly all major platforms and payment processors, it's like you did not even read my response, you are very emotional, closed minded and immature.
I thought I anwsered your question then you went off incoherently into something els, saying "collonialism can't happen without a parent country" which is stupid because that's what zionism is, it's literaly the political movement to create a jewish state with jewish people in it, that's collonialism.
If you watched Ryan you would know how it came to be, how the UN basicaly gave them the land, how israel got the nuclear bomb, how the mossad works, he sould be far more well known he does good work, which explains why he gets censored so much.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v what does it matter if it's the biggest industry if that industry can't provide for the huge number of people that live there? I bet farming is a big part of north Korea's economy but that still means they have food shortages and famines which they get aid from the west from to not starve to death.
There are parts of Africa in terms of soil, enviroment and industry to support industrial scale farming and most of those places are in the southern parts of Africa, though even there some are dependent on fertilizer imports from the west and they can't grow enough food for the whole continent, also don't forget that most of Africa is very hot but not very humid except for certain parts, most of Africa are arid, supporting safe drinking water while also providing enough food is difficult, let alone if climate change continues, pretending like they are food secured is going to backfire very badly, however with the right investments and proper farming technieks, along side GMO's and industrial farming they might be able to better sustain themselves long term.
As for Europe, we export a lot of food and farming tools to the rest of the world, we are very food secured but import a lot of exotic foods and sweets which yes are farmed in parts of Africa but they are mostly luxury goods, we also export a lot of dairy and animal products, unless your talking about very small states in western Europe or the colder climates in northern Europe we produce more than enough to sustain ourselfs and if need be we could switch to more productive methodes to overproduce more than we currently do, most of Africa can't do that, same for the middle-east.
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@ziyaulansari2759 actually many colonial powers did do all that, there is a good book written about this the victoria falls railway, also other books that go into details of different colonial policies, India largely exists today because they have british parlement system, many of it's highest elites before and during collonialism were western educated, including gandi.
South Africa is the wealthiest nation in Africa and after decolonisation many regions started to go back into poverty and dictatorships.
If you do want to adress real colonial abuse, the Belgium Congo was the worst one, then followed by the ottoman slave trade in north Africa, you even have some african political parties today who's main platform is "drive out the Chinese, bring back the Europeans" and France has the most military presence in Africa today, not by force but asked to by some of the african governments.
There are nations with some discontent towards Europeans most of them are marxists and those who envy some of the richer white africans, who btw provide and created a lot of wealth for the locals, don't believe me? Ask how Zimbabwe is doing.
Honestly your views are largely a myth, kept alive through misinformation about history and censorship online, it's not all sunshine and rainbows but it's also not doom and gloom, you should get a more realistic view about history.
Now to check if YouTube censored this comment, it does not like people poking holes in their leftwing propaganda narrative.
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@george4281 western europe was already the richest place before colonialism, many african countries are dependent on fertilizer from western Europe, places like Zimbawe used to be the breadbasket of Africa untill Mugabe and his commies started to deport and take land from white farmers who farmed on an industrial scale.
african governments are very corrupt and often steal from foreign aid, there is no negative coverage of african nations and people get punished if they do report on it.
western countries are the places people from africa, the middle east, south america or asia flee to because they know they have a better life there, western nations buy luxury goods from african nations as in rare resources, diamonds, copper, cash crops like Cacoa or Sugar, no african nation has a major manifacturing or scientific institutions.
you don't know anything about geo-politics or history, now time to see if youtube auto deletes this comment for being hard truths.
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I don't think even if Russia invaded they would try and reach a federal Ukraine for it's regions, simply because that would not adress the underlying issues with the people and Moskau, eastern Ukraine would probably love it since most of the people there are pro Russian to some degree or more, western Ukraine however is much more pro western and anti Russian, any such peace would create a very unstable situation in which Ukraine would likely become more divided and a civil war within it's borders becomes even more intense, there just is no way Russia is going to get an easy and quick victory, even if they win it's going to bleed them dry, sanctions will hurt, diplomatic relations will be lower than ever, constant acts of sabotage and terrorism would be the norm, it would be very bad for Russia and Ukraine.
A more realistic situation would be for Russia to lay claim on eastern Ukraine and make them do what they did with Cremea and act with a "legit" refurendum, allowing Russia to annex eastern Ukraine and undermining the legitimacy of the Ukrainian government and it's people.
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@af8828 you just sayd Bernie Sanders who is an open socialist, many of the green parties in Europe are socialists, often we call them water melons because they are green on the outside but red on the inside.
I don't understand why you think the western nations are more to blame when India, China polute the environment more then all of the western world combined, Partly that's due to enviromentalist policies in the west and lack of those policies in asia.
Idk if you know your history of enviromentalism but the nazi's were enviromentalists and if you want a global effort or want other nations like say Brazil, developing nations like in Africa to stop contributing to climate change you would have to force them to stop having so many kids, block their economic growth and force enviromentalist policies on them, how are you going to do that without use of force and authoritarianism?
Idk why you are being so illogical, naive and judgmental for what I see as a logical observation based on historic and objective facts of politics and human nature, seems rather easy to understand.
Idk seems like you just hate the western world while pretending to care about the environment.
I used to be on the leftwing, even somewhat of a progressive and this lack of objective argumentation and emotional arguing is why I left the leftwing and became more rightwing and nationalistic, I don't want imperialism but how are you going to enforce your ideas without use of force? People are just going to vote for the environment? On a global scale? You realy believe that's realistic?
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@af8828 you seem to believe most of humanity even the democratic ones are rational as a standard which I no longer believe is true, people act in their own self intrest, their group intrest or an outgroup intrest, what's best for say the enviroment might mean is a bad outcome for you personaly, it might mean that such policies are bad for other outgroup people.
an example perhaps though you might disagree with it.
here in the netherlands we have an enviromentalist party multiple actualy but il focus on the party Groenlinks for now, one of their spokesmen has sayd that they would abandon treating older people because they aren't worth the investment of time, thus the older demografics have an insentive to not vote for such a party, we have another party called DENK which is a pro migrant, pro islam, pro Turkish almost 5th collum party here that only exists due to waves of migrants, their culture and our culture is diffrent and this is not just culturaly.
thus as a result people don't vote for what's best for the enviroment but on issues that effect them the most, therefor your never going to get all the enviromentalist policies even if you do have the right scientific data, it's just not how democracies work.
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@af8828 nationalism historically has been the foundation of every civilized nation in the world, every civilization in human history had a identity, in the past this was based on religion and tribalism, nationalism abolished those primative concepts or absorbed them into their national identity, which allowed some sense of unity and stability, no it's not perfect nothing is but if you don't have a baseline, if you have no history, you have no future and can't defend your own intrests because you will become victim to those that do.
in fact organisations like the EU are suppose to create a sense of pan-nationalism, to bind all the national states together, they want to be like the USA which is a superpower because of it's national unity.
nationalism is civilization, pan-nationalism is the attempt at greater civilization.
in order for something to be, means other things can't be it, otherwise it would cease to exist.
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@af8828 your lack of an education on colonial history and your anti white racists views, combined with your childish, immature additude towards real problems is exactly why I left the leftwing.
I think it's a shame how so many of you are so convinced of some supposed evils of the past that you would force your lack of mature additude on younger generations, they won't be greatfull or tolorant of such views.
In fact gen Z is becoming the most conservative generation in decades and nationalist parties are rising all over Europe, even in EU parlement.
I'm not a ism or whatever childish name calling you want to commit yourself to, to avoid asking real, mature questions about globalism, enviromentalism and nationalism.
I love my country, I love my and all the people's of Europe who have suffered under the boot of authoritarian globalism and state enforced mass migration, standing up for your people, promoting the values of your nation, exposing those who wish to do harm to your Ideals while they censor you, bully you, intimidate you, hurt or even try to kill you is the meaning of bravery.
I'm a man and you are a child in my view, the world would be a lot beter if you outgrew this childish, self loating and racist additude you have, the rest of the world already has.
I pitty you, have a nice day.
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@sahhaf1234 you actualy have two versions of collonialism, biological colonization and resource extraction based colonization, in the later case you are correct and the institutions, roads and education system is largely focused on exclusion, extraction of resources and use of cheap labor (often slaves), worst examples of this was in south america and the Congo.
Biological collonialism means having people settle and replace the native population, creating a new society, a new people or a mix of native and non-native settler collonies, the USA is the best example of this, which basicaly through war and colonization still rule the country they have today because they annexed through war and replaced the native population, likewise to a degree this is currently happening in the west and esspecialy Europe which will inevitably lead to the same kind of reactions as the natives did to the USA, though that's more speculation on my part.
Europe is actualy very densly populated and there is a need to expand but more economically then traditionally, we actualy want to trade more with eastern Europe and Russia but the USA knows they can't allow that long term so they have to keep conflicts going, refugees are a big problem for the west, few people understand the military industrial complex but it's mostly the USA, France and the UK doing that.
We sould do more for the refugees but to do that we first need to be able to stand up to the USA, which we currently Just can't do.
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@sahhaf1234 well yes and no, most Europeans are aware of the USA's involvement in the middle-east and some are aware that the major nations, aka UK, France and to a lesser degree Russia, Italy and Germany have a hand in the development there, it's largely been a US led effort so it's easy to just focus on the USA and not see the influence we had in the matter.
That being sayd we suffered the most compared to the USA from the fallout of these wars but are unable due to NATO the current issues with Turkey and Russia to deal with the matter effectively, we just don't have the military, the willpower or the influence to change course set by bigger players.
The refugees have been largely focused on Turkey, Jordan, Italy and Greece and for a long time the EU had resorted to allowing refugees to come to Europe by influence from Merkel, however after the brexit vote which was largely fueled by fears of migrants and refugees they are now (slowly) realising they need a more direct and militaristic solution to the conflict and the US in these regions.
As for why they attacked iraq, Libya, Syria and others is difficult to say, some say the military industrial complex, others to counter Russia, other because of israeli influence through APAC and other lobbies including the saudi lobby, perhaps a combination of all of them? Idk for sure anymore.
As for the USA, it's change a lot from it's roots and became very corrupt through banking and corporate power, some of which now have more power then most western nations, which is what fuels anti americanism and anti globalism around the world, that's why you had Donald Trump to begin with he presented himself as an outsider and it got voters, it won't be the first time and seeing their current state, it would not surpise me if they somehow make it so he can run again in 4 years, breaking the 2 limit termship rule in the USA or just becomes a new political dynasty like the bushes and the Clintons.
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@lordbuckethead9768 I know a lot about US history more than most Europeans or most americans, the USA has not been isolationist for a very long time and has both engaged and funded both sides in many a conflict or rise of new conflicts, the USA was already strongly involved in ww1 selling arms to the UK with civilian ship, got involved directly due to a telegram from a German diplomat which basicaly was wondering if Mexico could help out if USA got directly involved in ww1 (it was already selling arms and food to the UK long before this)
The USA was also strongly involved in ww2 and set itself up to be attacked by Japan with it's oil embargo, the USA is not an isolationist nation it was even involved in aggresive foreign policy and expansion both in north america, asia and Europe almost from it's creation.
The current world order is the US order, Globalization has been it's creed for a very long time, from an american citizen perspective it looks bad but from the perspective of the rich and corporate class as well as political elites things have never been better which also explains the wealth gap in the USA between rich and poor and the need for the USA to be involved with wars even if they don't pose any threat to the USA, the irony is the USA has wasted a huge amount of time, trust and resources in the middle-east while China grew rich in the background.
The EU does not really need the USA, the European nations are more than able to fund and keep their own militaries for defence, we done so for centuries, the current weakening is due to the USA world system and denial of European involvement in wars or military spending, if the USA wants to leave the rest of the world it could do so and all it's allies would need is a few years to make up the difference but it be a huge shock for the rest of the world "why would the USA give up it's super power status and major economic reach in the rest of the world to return to the illusion of isolationism?" Russia and China would be overjoyed as well as many European elites, in public they be disapointed but behind closed doors they cheer for the oppertunity to gain more power, though they might worry about other European powers causing conflicts it's not something that's really new.
Let the old world burn? More like the new world order burn the old world will be doing just fine.
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@Qrt45 I don't expect the middle east to be a bastion of love and freedom without the USA but without a doubt the actions of the USA made things much, much worse, if the USA just went in like it did in Iraq and overthrew the regime there and replaced it with a monarchy, a new dictatorships or even a silly democracy (silly as in silly trying to make a western style democracy in that region) then that would have been better than what they actually did do, which was put sanctions on the regime in charge of syria and fund terrorists groups in the region, all of them, they called them ''moderate rebels'' as well as the whole ''assad attacked his own people'' trope that was going around, this became the basis and breeding ground for ISIS which was basically the islamic version of the nazi's in our era, this would not have spiraled out of controle had the USA not given arms and funding to these groups, if the USA had left the situation alone Assad would probably have crushed the rebels or been defeated by one side or the other, by funding the terrorists it made the assad regime look like a force of stability and sanity in the region (he's still a cruel and ruthless dictator but one that has some respect for the rule of law and is a sane actor)
israel does complicate things and has acted very poorly as well in the region, though with the USA has also allowed Iran to get more influence in the region, again the USA has been funding terrorists and helping their enemies like Iran gain ground, that's not just bad that's the exact opposite of what the US had to do.
Saudi arabia and Israel aren't exactly enemies, Turkey is a relatively new player in the region and that's mostly due to the fallout from Syria with presure from the EU.
but how to move forward now? well for starters the USA has finally stopped (at least as far as I know) with funding terrorists groups in the region, it could also help with rebuilding the damage it helped cause with supporting the assad regime or not openly support the regime but give funds to help stabalize the region, the USA could also take some refugees from Turkey and house them somewhere (something Europe had to deal with since 2015 but the USA has done little to nothing to help, Trump at least stopped the funding of terrorists and attacked ISIS for the most part)
the middle east is a mess but it's made worse by the USA and it's agenda does not work to counter China, in fact China has grown powerfull while the USA was dicking around here, overal it's been a disaster for everyone, the USA, Europe and the middle-east.
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@stephenjenkins7971 the USA funded multiple groups, pretty much everyone, not sure why you think they only funded the SDF, most of the early weapons of ISIS were given to them by the USA or taken from other "moderate rebels" there were multiple scandals of warcrimes being commited by some of groups supported by the USA.
Assad did not start the syrian civil war, you can actually watch the timeline of multiple places during the arab spring and how they devolved.
The arab spring happened in multiple nations and some groups in Syria started protesting, those protests started turning violent and there were a number of terrorist attacks, at that point the assad regime started cracking down on the protests and terrorists, at this point most of the civilians had no major weapons or much organisation, then the USA started arming many of the rebels in the hope they would overthrow the assad regime, Obama even threatened to invade Syria, meanwhile groups from Iran as well as Iraq started pouring in to add fuel to the fire.
The reality is today (which is why the media does not report on it anymore) is that Assad is the only form of stability in the region, everyone else are either foreign fighters, proxy groups or islamic rebels, the civil war became a proxy war for Israeli, US, Turkish, Kurdish, islamic radical and Iranian interest, the only ally left of Assad is Russia and it started due to the USA's actions, it's funding of rebels and sanctions on Syria, sanctions are a tool of war which in this region can kill thousands, when the USA imposed sanctions on Iraq after the first golf war 500.000+ children starved to death, likewise it turned a minor rebellion into a civil war within a proxy war but somehow Assad is the one to blame? Not the super power, proxy groups or foreign governments getting involved? The dude ran Syria for decades without much opposition, with economic growth and some form of rule of law but suddenly he's the cause of everything going to shit? Not the rebels or USA? Im not buying it, the media Lies all the time as does the USA why should I trust their words over what I can see for myself to be the case?
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@crescent4996 I don't understand why you think the USA is footing the bill for it's military, it's by US design that it is the case, we aren't talking about third world nations here, the European nations are more than able to pay for their own militaries and would have some of the strongest in the world, matched only by the USA, Russia or China.
China is gonna China for sure but in a world where the USA is not the global hegemon does not mean China is going to dominate everyone, it would just be a multipolar world like it's been for centuries, the US hegomony is the rare case and the exception in history, most of history has been a multipolar world.
Soft power is very usefull but indeed hard power is more important in the long run, which is why many European nations and the EU are attempting to gain more of it.
Imagine if the USA left Europe, that would force the EU to become a federation much more quickly or be torn apart, if done so it would have the second biggest reserve currency (which it already is today) it would probably be richer than China and only slightly behind the USA, if it's military spending was close to 3-5% it would have the world's second biggest military budget in the world, the idea that Europe is somehow super weak and unable to influence or defend itself is a fantasy with no basis what so ever.
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@stephenjenkins7971 the USA does secret opperations, uses sanctions and picks which ever side to support long before any civil war starts and the USA has been giving weapons and arms to terrorist groups in the region as well as outside of it for years, the USA does this all the time, pick a nation, start looking for radicals there, send them arms and money to start causing chaos, government reacts to shut it down, use the media as propaganda to demonize the regime, put sanctions in place, economy collapses, causes more chaos, say that regime X has got to go and threaten to use troops or fund more rebel groups to do your fighting for you, in the case of Syria last minute the Obama regime backed down but kept funding the terrorists, only till Trump came along did things start to cool down and the media stopped reporting on it, there are still people who report on it but nothing like before, even though the situation has only improved slightly but no mention of Assad's regime, the people or the situation, you have to look for it to find any info and what you find is barely any real information.
There is a huge information gap between the media around the 1990s and early 2000s and today, even though technology and the internet should have made more information easier to find, the reality is the opposite, less information, more secrets, censorship and open propaganda networks both the west, China and Russia engage in.
Idk what sources you have, all my sources from the past few years have been censored and kicked off most platforms, I think only Caspian Report still does some reporting though little with Syria, Google is perhaps the most censored and all you get is reporting from CNN or other three letter networks not worth a damn and are deeply untrustworthy.
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@stephenjenkins7971 I really don´t understand how you think the world or NATO works, NATO is the USA and if a nation acts or has a government the USA does not like be it democratic, authoritarian or totalitarian it could just kick that country out of NATO and make justifications to justify attack it if it wanted to.
but on the issue of EU federalization, help me to understand why the USA would be in favor of it? if doing so makes the US alliance weaker and the presence of US bases uncertain? NATO command itself has always been picked by the USA and does not want EU to become more federal since that would mean a federal army which would mean less reason for NATO alliance existing but you say ''NATO is not part of the USA'' except the fact that NATO is leaders are picked by the USA, is mostly funded by the USA and opposes other nations from forming blocks to replace NATO so in what universe would the USA be in favor doing something that would limit it's ability to project power and maintain it's global alliance!?
btw just because the USA does not want further independence and federalization of the EU does not mean it can do anything against it, if one nation goes against US interest that nation would be isolated and crushed if all of the EU suddenly say ''yes lets make a proper federation'' the USA can't wage war or subvert the whole of Europe, while also being in conflict with Russia and China that would be really stupid.
this is the issue with NATO, NATO is from the cold war era and worked really well back then, after the collapse of the USSR, NATO has just kept expanding yet has not updated it's mission statement, after 2001 the alliance has mostly been about engaging in foreign wars in the middle east which has been a disaster for US credibility, that on top of the fallout of said wars and covert activity is what helps drive the push for further EU federalization, geopolitics are in action here with multiple conflicts of interests, the USA has not had a leader that is able or willing to change it's mission objective and structure or expand further to solidify it's legitimacy, instead the USA has actually gone behind the backs of many of it's core NATO members without discussing how that conflicts with member states national interest, case and point Australia and France submarine deal as an example.
for most members of NATO, NATO has ceased to be an alliance to protect against communism and the USSR and is now mostly a tool for US power projection and influence which is now waning due to the rise of China, energy conflicts with Russia and new economic interests in africa and the middle east mostly about oil, untill the USA resolves these issues and conflicts and makes a new concensus on it's mission goal which could easily replace the USSR with China (communist still in name) with economic support for nations hurt by China's policies, the Alliance could get a new fresh start and help come to a mutual understanding of long term EU goals and NATO, right now that does not exist and thus the cracks in the alliance are forming and conflicts within NATO are no longer out of the question.
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@stephenjenkins7971 again I don't understand how your worldview works, France after ww2 was not exactly the world power and even when France left NATO it was still open and talking with the USA that in case of a war with the USSR they would side with the USA, there was no reason for the USA to become engaged with France because France was not much of a threat, now if France became an ally of the USSR or started doing stuff in Africa or it's colonies that would most certainly get into indirect or direct conflict with the USA.
I don't see any difference between the concert of Europe before ww1 and the current era we live in, the only difference being that instead of one European power becoming dominant enough to dictate peace on their terms (currently done by the USA) we had the failed attempted peace by the league of nations which the USA did not back and thus it fell apart, the USA got involved in ww1, made sure nobody actually came to dominate it, then left and did a pikachu face when Germany and the USSR wanted to become the hegemon which again is now filled by the USA.
I don't really bother with make believe or childish illusions of propaganda or fake morality, nations act in their own self interest, just as the USA, China, Russia and EU are doing today and as they did in the past, same with the roman empire or the mongol empire, it's more about the nature of war and the nature of civilization that turn the wheel of history, the current moralistic idiots can very quickly become the nazi's of the future, it's all just pretend, same with the USA, the USA is powerfull because it expanded, commited what we would call warcrimes and the current world order is as fragile as it was before, no morality is going to punish nations that win the wars and write the history books .
the irony is that many of the founding members and people who made up the EU were actually former fascists and member of the national socialist party of germany and many of it's policies were actually on the agenda of Germany in ww1 and well as ww2 just less voluntary and more directly organised.
the USA could very easily become an enemy of Europe if say the EU federalizes, it would start small with minor conflicting issues, Russia could collapse and make the Chinese and EU willing to engage to ''bring peace and stabilty'' back which at that point would anger the USA or imagine of Russia became a democracies and wanted to join the EU? what if conflicts in the middle east and africa made the Europeans act more directly which to the USA could be seen as ''problematic'' the current era exists because the USA forces it to exist do to it's economy, it's industry and esspecially it's military, once one or more of these variables changes so does the behavour and national interest of the USA.
''the USA does not have friends, it has alliances that serve it's national interest'' same with China, same with Russia, same with the EU, thinking it's going to last forever or won't at some point lead to conflict is a great error of reading of history.
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@crescent4996 wars today are realy weird, there have been multiple proxy wars with semi legit democracies and the USA as well as others the funny thing is most often they don't declare war on other nations, instead they use sanctions and use allies to also put up sanctions while/or at the same time actually engaging in acts of war, coups, vote rigging, hacking, air raids, covert opperations and assasinations to get the desired outcome, most of Europe just follows the same line as the USA so there is little need to use such forces but without a doubt the USA would engage with such behavour if it's national interest is being threatened, many elites in Europe (not me) do want China to be the world power or at least the main power in Asia because they believe an alliance with them with or against the Russians is in their interest and in a way they are kinda right.
Imagine your some wackey EU politician who just wants power, that wants Europe to be one of the main dominant forces in the world, an Alliance with China makes perfect sense, the Chinese need markets, Russia has resources and you have modern weapons and technical know how, the Chinese aren't going to care about human rights violations, the Chinese system would give that type of Eurocrate immense power over society, the Chinese would not care about imperialism in Africa or the middle-east, the EU + Russia + China would have more than enough power and resources to take over all of the old world and change the status quo, of course some EU politicians imagine these things, some care about the people for sure but others just want the power same with the USA elites.
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@crescent4996 I've read a few articles that many leaders within Germany and France want to try and move towards an EU federalization by 2025, though it would probably take much longer, it's not impossible to happen since a great deal of Europeans want it for security reasons.
I've often compared the current EU to the USA under the articles of confederation (the laws within the EU are also called articles btw) back then the USA had the same issues the EU does today, lack of a unified voice, unrepresented populations, lack of proper tax and spend controles, more of a state by state identity than a real american identity, it took great leadership, vision and also a desire to expand that secured and created a true american identity that many americans still have to this day.
Europe is much the same, though much older, much more divided and with a lot more bloodshed in between but what makes it work is external forces that threaten them as a whole, that almost forces them to work together and understand that it's either eachother or the Russians/Chinese the USA does not really have sure presures, it could indeed become very isolationist and many of it's people would probably benefit from it, for a while... However history shows that isolationism tends to lead to decline, lucky for the USA they had already expanded so much so it's not really isolationism as much as claiming a mountain of gold as your own but with time isolationism would probably cause stagnation, Europe can't be isolationist it does not have that luxury thus it is much more focused on playing both sides, getting rich while waiting for a chance to justify a full EU Federation.
And about the wellfare state, the EU has many different types of wellfare, most of southern and eastern Europe don't have a large wellfare system, sweden has one but is also hyper capitalistic on top, Germany and France have large wellfare states but the people don't have giant big macs or are as unhealthy as many americans are and that has more to do with their culture and their governments, taken all together the collective wellfare systems probably look slightly better than the USA as a whole.
The USA also gets major power in trade due to it's military, it's the main reason the USA is the main reserve currency in the world.
The EU has to do more for sure but that has to go with a decline in the USA, one gives rise to the other, it's not that it's good or bad but it is what it is so we better make the best of it.
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@crescent4996 the birthrates are an issue but at the same time they also aren't, the economic models of just consumption = economic growth no longer seems to be work as it used to in the 19th and 20th century, much more is economic growth determined by having the right skills, property rights, technology and trade with other nations for vital resources.
Automation and AI is going to be the real drivers of economic growth, drones and AI could replace major parts of the military, the only thing really stopping these developments is lack of vision, political capital to promote such things, technical know how and moralistic arguments, in many ways the drive for more and more people regardless of skills is going to become a major drain and issue within politics, while quality and skills will be much more important.
I really hate China, it's government is a damn nightmare state but it pains me to say, the Chinese have a better long term goal and agenda compared to the west in general, the USA included.
That's why I kinda fear the EU is going to try and become more like China, it will kinda depend if the USA or EU at some point change to lead the way into this future, otherwise it will most likely be the Chinese that do it, China and South korea have invested more into these types of things than the USA or Europe have.
China is hated which will be their major issue but if they make themselves powerfull then others will just come to them.
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@crescent4996 I think Russia will at some point attack Ukraine and Europe, the Chinese-Russian alliance is not as strong as it seems, while I don't think it's likely it's still possible that European politicans might side with China against Russia, it sounds crazy but hear me out, Russia is kinda weak in terms of economy and political stability, China might backstab Russia and take it's eastern lands while EU tries to make a russian democracy or just get it into their sphere of influence, if relations with the USA then break down China becomes the only alliance possible, sorta like how Germany and USSR divided Poland and Baltics for mutual agreement pact and non aggresion, China would then be free to focus on the USA and Asia while the EU would be focused on Russia, Turkey and north africa.
It might sound insane and unlikely but stranger things have happened and regardless of right or wrong many Europeans and elites dislike the USA, it's unlikely but I still think the idea must be floating in the minds of some.
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@scotthalland yes the Chinese and east asian communities have a large group that votes for conservative values but the majority of 3rd world countries do not and these are the groups the leftists and progressives seek the most, protect the most and demand the most.
Your lame excuse of "they switch leftwing when the rightwing becomes racist" is a very childish and uneducated argument because it has no bases in reality and does not effect the migrant groups in any meaningfull way, they don't het lynched, they don't get terroized, they don't get robbed or slandered in the media, in fact your argument is the exact opposite of reality, whites face real racism, face terrorism, face abuse, humiliation and loss of wealth and wages and as a result of those conditions they become more racialy aware and more nativistic because not doing so just means more of the same.
You might not have noticed by the rightwing and those who oppose anti white racism (like me) face constant censorship, racism, anti white propaganda and can see the attempts by the leftwing to use authoritarian means like immigration to take controle and abuse society.
People swing to the leftwing when the leftwing and their media allies report fake news on supposed racist abuse by whited while whites face actual racism and you can just look at most posts on youtube by progressives and leftists they are some of the most genocidal, evil, racist and tyranical things you will ever read.
I talk to a lot of different people, alt-right, neo-nazi's, fascisten even commies and non of them reach the level of hatred and racism the progressives and leftist do on a dayle bases.
And I love them for it, a few years back they pretended to care about minorities or hide behind the illusion of "fighting the evil racists" now they don't even hide their racism anymore which makes white advocates, nativists and nationalists seem like the sane and rational people.
Racism is simply a term used by the elites to slander people's own self intrest, notice how they don't adress racism directed at whites.
The more people hold on to this childish Believe of "anti racism" or "racism bad" the more they actualy create and support real racists.
The left needs migrants to get votes because they have abandoned logic, reason and the people who made the country, all they have left now is violence and that's the main goal of immigration today, to promote violence, Division, us vs them mentality not the rightwing, the rightwing wants to go back to normality which inevitably means seeking to reverse the racist policies of the leftwing there is no way around that, deportation and assumilation, multiculturalism is tyrany always.
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@rickharriss the whole world has suffered from covid-19, the EU does not have the power to rule over all the Actions of the member states, that's the whole issue, if the EU is to respond in the future it would have to have more power and more of a say on a federal level which many nationstates might not wish to give up, in an attempt to get the best of both worlds, confederate and federate models of organisation, the EU has shown to be disfunctional at this stage to handle these crisis situations, most statistics I see indicate that most of the people and elites in Europe want the EU to remain, only Italy and Sweden I think are against it, the UK was the major eurosceptic nation with them leaving the EU might actualy become stronger, less rich, less powerfull in terms of military short term but long term perhaps stronger, only time will tell for sure.
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@KungKras idk sending police to people who insult or offend politicians online, jailing journalists, imposing strict censorship laws more so than saudi arabia, that one time a swat team came into someone´s home for live streaming a discussion about covid lockdowns, covid lockdowns, Germany does not have free speech, it´s illigale to home school children in Germany, that time the german government gave orphan children to pedo´s for 30 years as a social experiment, the far leftwing regulations on economic freedom like not being allowed to have certain types of cars in big cities or their politicans saying that germans having low birthrates is a good thing because they are somehow all nazi´s or how the media there is mostly state owned or coopted for government talking point.
the list goes on, Germany is not a free country at all, I live in the Netherlands and im shocked whenever I go or hear something from Germany because it´s always some kind of 1984 authoritarian clown show, it´s really sad.
ohhhh yeah or how Merkel and the new german leader Schultz were/are both pro Putin shills and dependent on Russian energy because of their own stupid policies, that's a big one.
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@miroslavstojanovic5620 US and UK sould leave the UN, the UN exists only because of the USA after ww2, the goal was to ensure solutions to global issues could be solved diplomatically but in truth it's been used as a mouthpiece for waging war for the USA and UK and ignored when a resolution was taken against their intrest, their veto powers are used all the time, the UN is toothless and has sold out to Iraq, Iran, Saudi arabia, China and every other dictorship in the world, in Hati allone they keep finding pedo rings led by some UN rep, same in most of the rest of Africa, the UN is a joke and has lost most if not all of it's legitmacy.
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@Ifraneljadida uhhhh I think everyone can see that the impeachment process against Trump is a joke, more of an attempt at slander then actualy trying to fight corruption, in fact it almost seems like Trump himself leaked the audio, so the media would report on it, people investigate, goverment investigate and found that "hey Joe Bidden had gotten billions from corrupt money laundering, through Ukraine" I believe his son was also involved.
Nobody in the public trusts the whole impeachment process and all the talking heads condeming Trump are the most corrupt and biased.
Trump ain't no saint but they aren't going after his real corrupt or shady dealings, instead they focus on low hanging fruit so to speak.
Other officials, Clintons, pompeo, all deal in much more corrupt and shady dealings, hell the conspiracy theory right now is that epstein killed himself, everyone knows he was murdered.
I know im going a bit off topic here but nobody is realy fighting corruption, everyone is a crook and they are just trying to get eachother busted.
It's almost certain that Trump will be relected now, the worst thing he has to worry about now is not to get epsteined.
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@Ifraneljadida the odds were pretty stacked against him, it was largely Trump himself who made it happen, not anything the public or the institutions did, in fact the media was on a neverending witch hunt (still is) and he barely got elected only because his opposition was the imbodyment of all that is corrupt and wrong with the USA today, it was realy slim and perhaps the last time it will happen since now the demografics are going to shift even more radically and the democratic party move to remove that last piece that got Trump elected in the first place, the electoral college, since Trump did lose the populare vote, without the electoral college, he would have lost.
As for why the USA is so powerfull today, is realy too long to explain in just one comment but typically americans will cite their "freedom, institutions and constitution" as major reasons for their rise to power but in reality while their constitution is impressive, it was realy the US style collonialism called manifest Destiny, waging war and annexing fertile land and "removing" the native populations and creating basically a pan-european ethnostate under libertarian and capitalist economic models, plenty of things could have gone wrong that would have made it a regional power like Brazil, Argentina and others, it annexed large parts of lands from mexico, tried (and lost) in 1812 to annex Canada, it got rid of it's native americans in such an effective way Hitler would even quote and admire it and work the same kind of model for his lebensraum plans.
Then ww1 and ww2 happened and with no real competition left the USA stood strong ontop a pille of bodies.
Im not saying this as some kind of moral argument or demonisation, all nations did messed up and violent stuff, some of the worst were the british, the french, the Germans and the Russians but the USA is just not strong because of it's freedoms, it's strong because of it's version of collonialism and waging of war like nearly all great nations throughout history, the USA has been and is a lot like the roman Empire, esspecialy now with it's idea that anyone can become a US citizen.
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@ten_tego_teges not realy, most of our media is US based not Russian, Russia helps fund some nationalist parties because they want a more independent Europe, they fully support a EU army, they need trade with the west.
Truth is Russia needs peace and trade, the USA needs conflict and sanctions.
We aren't treating Russia honestly because we can't because of NATO.
We are currently in a transition situation where Europe needs a stronger military that's strong enough to repel the USA and Russia, then we could actualy work together, Russia fears NATO, they want to work with the EU.
Fake news comes from all sides, mostly the USA, UK and China, Russia only realy has RT, their power is largely overblown and exadurated.
What Russia does have is a strong military and rich resources, largest natural gas reserves in the world, 150 million people.
They don't threaten us, they threaten the US plans in the middle-east.
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Saudi-arabia is realy a weak third wheel, they can barely controle their military or country, they fund lots of terrorist organisations and have lots of money to spend it on but they have no advanced tech industry, no massive amount of spies, controle over media and NPO'S like israel, israel has billions and stole thermo nuclear weapons, while saudi-arabia does not even have nuclear weapons.
Mossad provided "evidence" for WMD's, these were lies and the wars and future war with Iran is in israeli intrest, though saudi-arabia also benefits, they don't pull the strings, they just fund the terrorists.
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@AeneasGemini that's how technology should work but right now we are doing the opposite of that, we are limiting ourselfs just to one source and moving backwards as a result, in the ideal world we would have a optimized set up of both nuclear, gas, renewables, geo-therma, hydro and biofuels, instead we are limited to mostly just biofuels, renewables and hydro which is just silly, we have barely even tapped into nuclear innovation so we aren't developing the technology we need and are more dependent on technology we already have.
Meanwhile places like China and India understand the value of nuclear energy and will leave the rest of us in the dark ages if we don't try and catch up, only France is really bringing their game to market and even investing in fusion, that's the future not Germany's renewables agenda.
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@RexGalilae but that's actually not true, there are nations like the USA that are mostly self reliant and have enough resources, Russia is a close second, China would like to be the same as would other nations, the world system as created by the USA is made this way on purpose, if nobody is self reliant they are forced to trade for most of their goods and services, while the USA can mostly sustain itself, this goal was actually what the Germans in ww2 and ww1 to a lesser extend wanted.
Now you can argue that no nation can always be 100% self reliant all the time as disasters can strike, new resources or technology changes the system, too many people for limited resources, so on so forth but as an economic concept most nations try to be self reliant if they can be, food security is an important factor of this or water security, in the coming decades you can expect more wars over water.
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@dru4670 my main weakness is I have too much empathy, I always reason which is why im often censored and insulted by people who hate the truth, I always listen to people who I disagree with, that's how you prevent being stuck in an echochamber.
There is a Imam in new sealand, they call him the Imam of peace, why? Because he dares to talk about the violence, inhumanity and threat from islam, he gets death threats from "peacefull muslims" every day, he gives me hope, not those who actualy defend islam and call those who speak the truth hypocrites, it's easy to call someone names, it's hard to actualy confront the truth.
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