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Comments by "Golag Is watching you" (@golagiswatchingyou2966) on "A new scramble for Africa" video.

With so much manpower and resources... Why leave?
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"The boys are back in town"
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Probably with lots of competiting factions and perhaps even a few civil wars and proxy conflicts.
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@tunde9773 you do realise Europe and the USA are the main reason why africa has like 2 billion people now right? Might want to look up who sends and sells the most food to Africa. If the west ever wanted to fuck over Africa we just stop feeding them.
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Pixel Smile uhhhh he's not incorrect a bit crude for sure but what he's saying is not incorrect at all, Africa has not have many nobel prizes for chemistry or technology and has copied parts of both the worst and best ideas of the west which is why some african nations are doing better than others. I don't think there is any shame in that, many parts of the world are less developed then others, just compare parts of eastern Europe to western Europe, or south vs north america, China used to be one of the poorest nations on earth now they are almost a super power. I think pretending like you can't learn from people you disagree with is a true sign of ignorance but perhaps im unaware of any great inventions or technologies developed by africans on the continent of africa, please do enlighten me if you can.
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@tunde9773 well because a lot of media, fake news, big tech and political activists want to frame it like that, it's not us being defensive, it's us simply pointing out inaccurate statements which hurt both african and european self interest. marxism did win over a lot of african nations and those nations have largely all fallen into poverty and destroyed what little european investment before and after colonialism existed there, like in Zimbabwe. from what i've seen a lot of african nations prefer the Europeans over the chinese but not all nations are in the position to decide for themselves what they want and most of the bad wars in the region aren't caused by Europe but the USA. the true irony is that resources are a lot cheaper after decolonisation then before it, since lower wages, and stagnating economies means cheaper resources, the only problem is in some cases they don't want to sell their resources or lack the technology for proper extraction. China only cares about China, they don't care what happens to africa but since Europe is right next to the continent if africa goes bad then we get problems as well
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@tunde9773 2 billion africans that rely on western food says otherwise but your partly right the aid send and cheap food has made food production more costly in africa itself which slows economic growth. the west never did anything for altrustic reasons, in fact the only reason they get aid is because many of their governments and people begged for it and because after decolonisation many african nations started having wars and making bad economic policies which hurt their nations. you can't always keep on blaming Europeans, in fact africa has benefited the most of us being there and has lost quite a bit after we left and no we did not steal anything that's not how capitalism works.
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I think the freedom alternative had a few interesting points on this topic, though you have to look into it on their channel
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@lif3andthings763 actually no, africa cost us a lot of money and resources, esspecialy as colonies, which is why Germany was so much richer and more powerfull then the UK despite them not having an empire like France or the UK. if Europeans wanted to take over africa the only ones who would be able to stop them would be the USA. it would be super easy if the USA did nothing, all we would have to do is build a fleet, block all food and investment into the continent and then simply embargo everything going in, a few months of starvation would then allow us favorable deals and rights to maintain military bases like the USA does around the world and we have the continent under our controle within a few years with some minor fighting here and there. idk what you people are thinking, Europe does not have the desire to do this, nor would the USA allow it, im just saying if the USA was not there and Europe actually wanted to do this they could very easily, the hardest parts would be dealing with resistance at home and condemnation from the USA and the UN. just because you have 2 billion people does not mean it can't lose to a smaller force, that's just silly.
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Pixel Smile not sure about that link of his though, that's some strange religeus nonsense i think.
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@lif3andthings763 african colonies were pretty much more expensive then they were worth, the realy profitable colonies were in south america and in souht-east asia, in africa it was mostly rubber, diamonds, gold and slaves, but it varies per nation and perhaps part of africa. in south africa the colonialism was very different from other parts like in the congo which was quite cruel but for the most part the scramble for africa was quite weak and most of the borders drawn were just imagined lines with very little actual influence on those spots and almost always via proxy groups there. whatifhistory channel made a good video in which he explains why it was not as bad as people think and why. https://youtu.be/cjkJ6YuEoE4?t=642
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@Newbmann that happens more often in history then you might expect, japan vs germany ww1, japan + germany vs allies. China vs Vietnam, vietname vs USA, USA + vietname vs china. im pretty sure at some point we might even get China + USA vs Russia + Africa who knows?
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@benjaminlamptey1867 actually the ottoman slave trade was much worse, you don't hear about any of them because they were all castrated and worked to death, can't complain about treatment if your dead.
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@lif3andthings763 they invested a lot in colonies which all collapsed soon after they left, there are a lot of books on the subject. The USA was not interested in seeing colonies ruled by european powers anymore, since each nation had different forms of colonialism, the USA believed these places could become modern nation states and thought that they would be so greatfull to not fall for communism and embrace capitalism, in many parts of africa and the far east the opposite happened, so it was a miscalculation on their part. The Marshall plan was the means for USA to help rebuild Europe and without colonies holding them back or diverting investment these places rapidly grew. After decades of civil wars, brutal conflicts and dictatorships, now africa is developing, how? By investment from western nations, China and stabalized african nations after the shock of decolonisation. If it was so great for them why did it took this long to recover from that? Why did they devolve into civil wars and country wars? And why is it that neo-colonialism now is helping their economies grow?
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If they had a federal level nation all over africa that was stable then yes but in that same regard Europe is decades ahead on that front but if they did then yes that is a possability. We are moving towards a multipolar world anyways, every continent will likely form some union to maintain their collective interest.
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Charlene Weah-Weah remind me again what happened in Zimbabwe when Mugabe kicked out all the white farmers? I understand why you want to believe this myth because you have inferiority complex but honestly, it's holding you back as a people. Africa is a huge landmass, that has very few rivers and shore line, Europeans could not even settle most places because it is so hostile and the environment is so harsh. Just because you had a bad start due to geography and others due to luck and capitalism were ahead does not mean you can't advance, in fact many parts of Africa are advancing due to new trade networks, trains, investment and proper capitalist policies which are western inventions. Holding on to this myth is what caused Mugabe and what's tearing apart south africa, it's the same kind of mentality the nazi's had of being victims (real or imagined, often both) that caused wars, don't fall for it. Esspecialy a country like Egypte won't benefit through this mentality.
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Africa does not have a lot of shoreline that lead inward, connecting via land north-south can then be distributed across all africa, where as with ports you need shipping lanes and then railroads anyways. A combination of both will be used of course but via land is just another new methode which will add to the current trade routes.
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@OkarinHououinKyouma truth is very few people care
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@alisethoke1650 it can work if the people want it, if the people don't want it, then it's a lost cause, this is why the nation building in the middle-east failed, many are still dictatorships and some which were democracies have become defacto dictatorships right now, aka Turkey.
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Charlene Weah-Weah hahaha sure, wakanda forever, very cute. seems someone has been reading a lot of black hebrew isrealite propaganda .
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Charlene Weah-Weah civilization and writing comes from indo european people's who copied it from messopotanian civilization. eqypt was not ''black'' i don't need your education, you need one from me it seems.
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Charlene Weah-Weah I hate Google, they are very anti white and woke. Im not ashamed of understanding history and feel no guilt of the past. The west created the modern world and everything your using. People from Europe discovered America and settled it, it was the americans who finished off what was left of the natives there though, it's why they are a super power, European civilizations were far more mild which is why our empires are gone btw.
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Charlene Weah-Weah only thing im ashamed of is that so many Europeans feel guilt for something they did not due and shame for their strongest most proud moments in history.
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@TailExchange how is it brave when all the powerfull people, factions, groups and intelectuals are on their side to promote their bad ideas? everyone who disagrees is being censored or attacked, sometimes even killed, they aren't brave at all, more like spoiled, privilaged and destructive.
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@lif3andthings763 my mistake, it's about 1,3 billion as of 2020 not 2 billion, I got the numbers mixed up because the projection of population growth is expected to reach 2,4 billion by 2050 and I thought they already reached the 2 billion mark, esspecialy with their diaspora which turned out to be smaller then I expected about 140 million. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Africa
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@lif3andthings763 actualy it was mostly the USA that promoted decolonisation and the colonial economic system was already disfunctional before ww1. As for their function in ww1 and ww2 they were quite limited with the exception of food production, vital war economy resources like rubber, iron, manpower. There is a reason why during ww1 Germany was doing so well against the entente and started losing when the USA got involved, even though germany had no colonies that were significant to speak of. Colonies had two functions, resource extraction and settler export and to set up infrastructure, schools, hospitals and everything els for it to function cost money and during this period there was very little trade between nations. Many colonies were very profitable but many others were a net drain and more of a burden then people think. It's only because of professional victimhood cults that want money that this perception of history even exists and it only exists in the west, not even most former colonies.
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@grantlit2196 communism is always forced upon people, subverted into institutions and almost always can only be removed by force and has led to more deaths, starvation and misery then any other ideology in human existence. it's quite bizzar how some people (not you) still defend this ideology and the reason why ''western liberalism'' is no longer working is because it is no longer driven by capitalism, free markets, human rights and sanity but instead is driven by emotions, regulations, corporations, government spending and controle over economics. I partly agree, most other nations can't be democracies or show great resistance against them and it's unrealistic to try and shove them in, better to lead by example not by force i would say. the USA is special in that it's location is perfect, has expanded through war and treaties, has no external enemies and has vast amount of resources and little to no internal conflict like say with the natives (since there aren't many around) ironically the USA form of collonialism was one of the harshest ones around, European colonies were quite mild in comparison which is why decolonalism even happened and it's even more ironic how people remember it as being so horrible yet very few people make the same comparison to the USA and the reason is because the USA is so powerfull and everyone wants to be their friend and not insult them by telling the truth. btw I don't support any form of reparations or whatever, I think that's nonsense but I do take issue with how people seem to demonize European colonialism as the worst thing ever, yet ignore all the other and far more sever ideologies and nations in history, another ones are the ottoman empire, the russian empire, the USSR, South american nations.
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@grantlit2196 I don't think that's a good thing, don't we remember the 1940s? We shall see how things play out.
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@MoneyMacro well yes and no, it depends on what type of network your looking for, the Sahara is mostly deserts with some parts that are Savannah and jungles near the equator, building a long and extensive multi lane train railroad network will be very costly and hard to maintain, a few very long and constant railroads like the trans-siberian railroad network will allow for large quantity of goods and resources to be moved from north to south and then more local hubs can distribute it further. It's a work in progress and hardest will be to have open and fair movement between nations and stability for such networks to be build and then expanded apon. Regardless the sea-lanes will continue to dominate the trade from Africa to the world but within Africa such railroads and new free trade agreement projects of the african union and the EU are likely to grow over time to add to the development.
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Im not sure if all cargo can get through via ship, why limit yourself just though the sea? When land and sea are better?
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@ЮрийМеньшиков-г7и it's hard to pull off for sure.
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@lucascottle2345 but it could become one.
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@nse esspecialy in France, ironicallly Europeans never realy colonized africa the same way, only exception is perhaps south africa and it's the richest nation on the continent. The worst colonial empire in africa was the Belgium Congo
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Yes, sadly Africa has very little shoreline and deep water ports, so it's via land or not at all for most of africa.
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Charlene Weah-Weah that's total nonsense and you know it, the romans already had surgery, as did the maya's, the first modern surgery happened in the UK with the invention of anesthesia. Idk where you get your information from but it sounds silly as hell.
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@Turtle5454 no that would be bronze age civilizations, which are india, indus valley civilizations, mesopotemia, Egypte and parts of Anatolia
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@useodyseeorbitchute9450 yes, this is correct but I would add that more then Biology have the right kind of ideology aka capitalism allows for the optimal natural/artifical selection that advances a society and raises IQ. A good example is north and south korea, they had the same baseline of IQ but one was marxist and the other capitalist. Likewise western nations which were advanced are becoming more woke which will have a negative effect on their education and long term intelligence.
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@theoligarchstepper @Rob Van Dyke All I hear from you is envy and resentment from how history actualy went and you are desperate to try and pretend otherwise. I wish I could speak freely but youtube censorship does not let me educate you, this is the fouth time I try to comment to you and it keeps getting censored. Please read more history books.
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Charlene Weah-Weah you do realise Europeans (me included) get censored more often then anyone els right? Trust me I don't feel any guilt or shame for my history, in fact if most Europeans stopped feeling guilt for nothing, B's would not get any money. You convince your people to not feel inferior and il convince mine to stop feeling guilt, if we both stand against censorship then that's good for both of us.
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@useodyseeorbitchute9450 I mean before the welfare state and when most children died due to harsh conditions. Though your right that it's not just capitalism that effected selection, technology and the environment selected for people. All civilizations are basically artifical selection systems, some are just more optimal then others
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@useodyseeorbitchute9450 the algoritme keeps changing and it becomes more and more silly, can't even use certain chinese phrases or adress any specific people within even close to any negative subject. It's very bizzar at times to figure out how the censorship works, spend more time checking to see if comments get through then actually commenting.
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@useodyseeorbitchute9450 I know alt-hype and edward, don't know the others have to look into them, thanks for sharing
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@royronson3275 yes in middle america, north american tribes were far more divided and tribal in terms of technology, when the first european settlers arrived was when the diseases started to spread in that area, it's unknown how many people died because of the diseases but later the expansion by the USA finished off the few tribes that survived, some of them formed a confederation between tribes to try and maintain their lands but technology was even more against them and the americans had little respect for them, saw them as problems to deal with sooner or later which they did. It is what it is, sad but true.
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@dennisgichohi5392 that's what you think because you believe you are lesser than Europeans and their history, not me.
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@dennisgichohi5392 you also don't understand much of human nature, history or civilizations, otherwise you would not think such silly things. It's often that mindset that leads to the worst outcomes both for yourself and others around you.
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@dennisgichohi5392 because the west is not in africa, these are states that act and destabalize themselves, if you've ever been to or seen african countries you will see they have very different mindsets than western people, first off most don't believe in democracy, secondly most value their tribal identity over anything else, nepotism is everywhere in most african countries and third most of these nations don't have anything other to offer international trade besides resources, if they weren't being ''exploited'' then they would have zero investment at all, in fact some argue due to aid from the west, africa is less developed because they can't compete with free goods. the irony is that before decolonisation this was not the case, tribal groups were kept in check, western investment flowed into these places and places that were the most exploited like the congo was during the reign of leopold the second who ruled it less like a colonie and more like his own personal kingdom where he could do whatever he liked, even the people at the time said ''yo dude chill the fuck out would you, your making us look bad''
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@dennisgichohi5392 your the one living in a fantasy. Perhaps you should read more books instead of listening to the voices in your head telling you things that aren't true.
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@dennisgichohi5392 no
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@lif3andthings763 most were castrated as was the custom there, also less willing to indulge "reperations" so no reason to complain, it's always about the money.
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@TailExchange you do realise that they cost us a lot of money and only complain about the past because they want money right? Look if you want to be scammed and try and "buy your sins" then go ahead and give them your life savings because you feel so guilty, just leave us sane people out of your victimhood cult and stop being so racist towards white people. We aren't oppressing anyone, you are.
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@lif3andthings763 your opinion means very little to me and you don't know how the colonial system worked. it basically works like this, resources go from colonies to Europe, used to produce products and are then sold back to colonies and a few products are sold to other western countries but basically they are enclosed economies, it's very disfunctional compared to the global economy we have today, on top of that many of these colonies had to get massive investment in order to create the conditions for products to be sold to. European powers wanted to keep their colonies because they managed and had invested into it greatly and many knew that without their policies and support those nations would collapse which is what happened in many places where decolonisation happened, the smart natives who lived there moved out before they got decolonised, the nations that were better off were those with high number of settlers or had strong educational investment like in india. the USA did not wish for these colonies to fall into communism so they rather have them collapse then be ruled by colonial powers, ironically many fell into communism after decolonisation anyways. many europeans no longer supported the colonial system because after ww2 many had no interest to keep investing into them for minor profits and rather wanted to invest into their own economies, combined with the marshal plan had the largest growth in their economies since the industrial revolution, no colonies needed.
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@grantlit2196 imagine thinking that's somehow racist or "white supremacy" Please try and explain how that actualy is the case, instead of just using random buzzwords that make no sense at all. It seems like you have racist views towards white people or view them as superior simply because other continents aren't as wealthy.
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@grantlit2196 that's literally the opposite of what colonialism did, why you think there are so many people there right now? Ethiopia was quite poor for a long time, they like many african nations are now industrializing and they are in a good position to become a strong player on the continent of africa. south africa is I believe still the richest nation of africa and they had the most settlers and were colonies of the dutch and the english, how do you explain that then?
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@lif3andthings763 just read some more history, im not very interested in your emotional, childish and fanatical delusional ideas or arguments.
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@grantlit2196 there never were any chinese slaves? And don't pretend like slavery was very profitable, why you think Europeans were the ones to abolish it?
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@grantlit2196 China is rich because it trades with the world and has modern, western forms of market capitalism.
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@lif3andthings763 I see my comment got censored again, ohhh well. I don't care so much about you to try and get passed the youtube censorship. So enjoy the silence I suppose?
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@lif3andthings763 you could learn a lot from them.
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从 Deadpoppin 从 even though that's what they want you to be and your children and they want to ignore the bad effects of that whole "lifestyle" ohhh yeah and they want special treatment and lower standards for the army to gain medical benefits. Gees I wonder why people don't like them, not to mention the massive censorship if you say anything bad about them, try it, see how far the censorship goes these days.
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从 Deadpoppin 从 clearly you never heared about religions, cults or communism, billions of them and they all think the same, don't be so naive.
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从 Deadpoppin 从 just keep telling yourself that, why you think they want to join the military? Because it gives them medical benefits and their medical costs are sky-high
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从 Deadpoppin 从 my other comment got censored again, can't even educate you naive cult members, see this is why nobody likes your ideology, it's oppresive and demanding on others and lowers individual freedom and rights to please their need for special treatment.
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从 Deadpoppin 从 you do realise they already inject kids with hormoons which hurt their bodies for life right?
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从 Deadpoppin 从 plastic surgery no, hormoon blockers and other medicine do get covered.
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从 Deadpoppin 从 you call me stupid but I'm not the one who believes in a cult and wants to cater to less than 1% of the population while ignoring their "issues". (Gatta love that censorship)
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从 Deadpoppin 从 you have fingers don't you? You have access to the internet? You go read up on it, I'm not going to waste my time looking for you cultists, wasted too much time already.
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@ayodejiolowokere1076 it's not realy a question of thinking, it's a fact of knowing, check the imports data of food of african nations, then look up firtilizer imports of african nations. There are parts of Africa who used to be breadbaskets like Zimbabwe but due to their racist and communist government they drove off all the white farmers. You can see the same type of trajectory in south africa, west Africa might be doing a bit better though due to more capitalistic policies but im not sure if that's related to food production, might be still lagging behind last time I checked.
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@ayodejiolowokere1076 https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-countries-importing-the-most-food-in-the-world.html https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-american-food-giant-the-largest-exporter-of-food-in-the-world.html Read whole.
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@ayodejiolowokere1076 they can't sustain their own food production and are also dependent on fertilizer from the west for their own food production, perhaps you don't understand what that means but it means that a continent of about 1+ billion people might face famines if the international system of trade collapses which had partly happened due to corono pandemic lockdowns. I know you must be the bottom of the barrel when it comes to critical thinking and rationalism but come on even you can understand how bad of a position that is to be in for any country. And yet singapore and iceland can't feed themselves but last time I checked they aren't 1 billion + people. Grow up.
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@ayodejiolowokere1076 without fertilizer from the west and food imports they would starve due to their high population, it's not that hard to understand. South africa does produce more food than most of the rest of Africa but add all of african nations together and you still got a big problem. Seeing as you don't seem to care that much about their sustainability and food production for survival almost makes it seem like you want there to be a crisis where civil wars and famines destroy the continent. Some people would consider that racist, though I think your just short sighted and not seeing the big picture.
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@ayodejiolowokere1076 not all of africa, that's more center of Africa, not the richer parts like in south africa, used to be the same in Zimbabwe before Mugabe. Read more books about this and the implications of it.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''The Ethiopians seem to get that concept, because when Trump sided with Egypt in the Nile River Dam dispute and threatened to stop giving ethiopia 50 million USD per year in foreign aid, the Ethiopians essentially told the Trump administration to go F itself. When completed, that dam will generate billions of USD for Ethiopia by growing their agricultural industry and providing more than enough electricity for its people, with plenty left over to export the remaining energy to its neighbors. '' you don't understand how this fucks over Egypt's water supply and their own Agricultural output, it could even start a war, though most likely Ethiopia would win. see here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henqcu4-sqc
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''South Africa is actually ranked 7th on the African continent in food security behind black nations like Gabon and a lot of North Africa with Senegal, Namibia, botswana, Ghana and many others not far behind. African food imports have more to do with bilateral trade deal structures than actual dependence on foreign food imports. And you seem to be forgetting that certain crops grow better in different regions so every nation imports food. For example, Europe relies on African cocoa farmers and Africans rely on European dairy farmers.'' https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-countries-importing-the-most-food-in-the-world.html most of these are african countries who need to import their own food to sustain their populations, even a small famine across just a few of these countries could start wars for food and water, esspecialy because of global warming and the rapid population growth in africa, most predictions around this area for the future aren't very good if they can't import food, they have to produce more or reduce their population growth to sustain themselves.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''And your comments about colonization are wrong too. Colonization was extremely profitable because it supplied European manufacturers with the natural resources they needed to produce goods because Europe lacks sufficient natural resources to fuel it's industries.'' the richest nation of Europe were the ones who did not have colonies and the UK had more than enough coal to kickstart the industrial revolution, if your looking for a nation that needed resources to fuel their industrialisation you should look to countries like Japan.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''And what about the free/cheap manpower? You forget the fact that millions of blacks and browns fought for Europe in their wars with over 600,000 Africans and 1 million+ Indians fighting for the British empire in ww2 alone.'' this might actually be true, since most of those colonies were only good for spices and manpower so using colonial manpower might actually be worth while, esspecialy in ww1 and ww2 since most of the soldiers that fought and died were Europeans but they weren't fighting to free Europe or for some western ideals they most often were conscripted by puppet governments for their own interest to gain favors and perhaps more autonomy for themselves, esspecialy Indians.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''Having colonies was extremely profitable or they wouldn't have gone out of their way to take them in the first place you troll lol.'' again the richest nations in Europe and the world were those that did not have colonies, the USA for example or Germany, colonies often cost money and resources to maintain them and when decolonisation happened Europe actually had an economic miracle how is that possible if colonies was the source of their wealth? there were colonies that were profitable, most of those were settler colonies not exploitative colonies and those that were profitable were in specific goods that were overly valued like spices, sugar, gems, diamonds or rare metals.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v ''Again, you're either willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest. Probably a little bit of both considering you spout a lot of bs talking points found on white supremacist blogs and chatrooms so you probably subscribe to that nonsense as well.'' I don't know any white surpemacist blogs or chatrooms I just read history and follow the facts. if actual white supremacists are correct in your view then that says a lot about the state of our public education and might explain all the censorship in general, kinda sad realy. for them it's probably very good that people like you deny the facts and assume everyone who disagrees with you is somehow a racist or a white supremacist, it makes them look competent and more educated which they most often aren't but hey you make it easy for them I suppose, good job.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v what does it matter if it's the biggest industry if that industry can't provide for the huge number of people that live there? I bet farming is a big part of north Korea's economy but that still means they have food shortages and famines which they get aid from the west from to not starve to death. There are parts of Africa in terms of soil, enviroment and industry to support industrial scale farming and most of those places are in the southern parts of Africa, though even there some are dependent on fertilizer imports from the west and they can't grow enough food for the whole continent, also don't forget that most of Africa is very hot but not very humid except for certain parts, most of Africa are arid, supporting safe drinking water while also providing enough food is difficult, let alone if climate change continues, pretending like they are food secured is going to backfire very badly, however with the right investments and proper farming technieks, along side GMO's and industrial farming they might be able to better sustain themselves long term. As for Europe, we export a lot of food and farming tools to the rest of the world, we are very food secured but import a lot of exotic foods and sweets which yes are farmed in parts of Africa but they are mostly luxury goods, we also export a lot of dairy and animal products, unless your talking about very small states in western Europe or the colder climates in northern Europe we produce more than enough to sustain ourselfs and if need be we could switch to more productive methodes to overproduce more than we currently do, most of Africa can't do that, same for the middle-east.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v you do realise Germany only had like a sausage factory in Tanzaniki right? I don't think you understand economics or history very well, you argue in terms of emotions rather than actual facts, Europe was already the richest parts of the world before colonialism even happened and after ww1 germany had to pay massive reperations which the government tried to pay with by printing money (gees where have we seen that one before?) Germany was already the strongest European power with almost zero colonies before ww1, in fact because they had no real need for colonies it made them powerfull to begin with, it did however made them dependent for certain resources from other colonial powers who charged them extra for resources like Oil or Rubber but that does not mean they could not get them or needed to wage war, in fact Germany only got into ww1 because of Austria-Hungary, read some more history, it's just laughable how you think you know anything while not knowing basic facts of history or economics.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v Germany already outproduced the UK before 1910, the British however did controle the seas and being an island would mean Germany would have to build it's own navy plus maintain a strong army to hold both their own borders and not get a naval blockade which the british did btw in ww1. Some colonies were more profitable than others, African holdings were mostly more trouble then they were worth while east asian colonies and the sugar plantations were far more profitable. After ww2 Europe had an economic miracle and recovered very quickly from the war despite not having anymore colonies for the most part.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v Germany is wealthy because they had resources, they had the people and industrialized despite barely having any colonies, what are you talking about? And don't even get me started on ww2 and that mess, gods you realy need to read more history books.
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@user-to2jw7nb8v and you don't think this is a provocation? How silly are you? Of course it is! Likewise China is doing the same thing to India don't they have a right to complain? Or threaten war if it endangers their very existence? What are you 10 years old? Don't you understand anything of politics? War? History? Or basic common sense? Of course this can lead to war, it would be hard for Egypte alone which is why other nations might get involved, one could be Turkey and the other France and unless the Etheopians have the USA on their side they won't win that war, it's not in Etheopia's interest to start a war too. Of course you could just say "fuck you I do what I want" but that's not a very productive or rational way of thinking, if everyone thought like that we would have never ending war all the time!
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@ziyaulansari2759 actually many colonial powers did do all that, there is a good book written about this the victoria falls railway, also other books that go into details of different colonial policies, India largely exists today because they have british parlement system, many of it's highest elites before and during collonialism were western educated, including gandi. South Africa is the wealthiest nation in Africa and after decolonisation many regions started to go back into poverty and dictatorships. If you do want to adress real colonial abuse, the Belgium Congo was the worst one, then followed by the ottoman slave trade in north Africa, you even have some african political parties today who's main platform is "drive out the Chinese, bring back the Europeans" and France has the most military presence in Africa today, not by force but asked to by some of the african governments. There are nations with some discontent towards Europeans most of them are marxists and those who envy some of the richer white africans, who btw provide and created a lot of wealth for the locals, don't believe me? Ask how Zimbabwe is doing. Honestly your views are largely a myth, kept alive through misinformation about history and censorship online, it's not all sunshine and rainbows but it's also not doom and gloom, you should get a more realistic view about history. Now to check if YouTube censored this comment, it does not like people poking holes in their leftwing propaganda narrative.
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@ziyaulansari2759 you aren't interested in the actual events and facts, you aren't even interested in reading what I wrote, you are simply repeating a leftwing emotional narrative that has no objective basis in reality nor takes into account the situation before or after, you are simply promoting a one dimensional narrative of victimhood that is not taken serieusly by any real colonial historian, it is a view however promoted by many leftwing "intelectuals" and marxists who want to believe in the noble savage myth. The fact that you can't even admit that there were different forms of colonialism, for different nations with different results shows you have no proper understanding of colonial history and are using emotional arguments rather then objective reality.
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@ziyaulansari2759 settler colonies were the most mild and most wealth creating form of colonialism, the worst ones (like in the Belgium Congo) were extraction based colonies where indeed people were put to work in slave like conditions and revolts were crushed with violence and loyal local tribes, same with the Hutu's and Tutsi's the genocide of which happened after the french left.
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@ziyaulansari2759 apartheid was bad but was mostly condemed by the USA and the USSR, during a time where they still had segregation and this system was not present before south africa's independence and ironically since those laws have been removed (for right reasons) has also made many of the white people living their targets by racist attacks and the government neglect, basically saying that they can't be one african nation without racism white or black, their economy is also not doing so good as a result.
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@ziyaulansari2759 everything that was left after decolonisation was perfectly in order, the locals were the ones who did not maintain it and many of the local elites and highly educated people who spoke a colonial power like French or English left to their oppressors nations, when the French president visited Algeria during the last stages of decolonisation he was met with hordes of people begging to become french citizens so they could leave the inevitable collapse of most of the economic structure. Nobody here is making excuses for collonialism or god forbid trying to bring it back, it is merely an object fact that Europe did not benefit much from it and it cost more while also after decolonisation European nations started to develop faster than ever while many of the nations left declined, these are facts that you don't seem to care about and most of africa does not have this view at all, they aren't full of this victimhood complex and in fact want to improve by having western standards, customs, getting western style education and transforming africa into a much more wealthy continent and supporting pan-africanism the same way Europe is promoting pan-europeanism via the EU.
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@ziyaulansari2759 look up whatifalthistory channel for more info, sources are given in the video on another 10 misconceptions of history video, i tried to share it on YouTube directly but for some reason YouTube insta censors the comment. There is a reason why this myth of yours still exist, it's because of censorship and dishonesty by many leftwing "intelectuals" and marxists, nothing more. It's very frustrating to keep seeing this myth pop up and being so wildly believed by so many people when it's so easy to disprove, it's not apologetic it's just the objective truth and it does not take away the horrific treatment of some colonial powers but it does show a more realistic image of what happened and how and why.
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@ziyaulansari2759 dude what are you talking about? You sound like a marxist and making emotional arguments and attemping to gaslight me into thinking im acting emotional or being in support of colonialism rather then look at the facts I mentioned. Capitalism is what created wealth and what's making africa wealthy today after decades of marxism and dictatorships.
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@ziyaulansari2759 truth that does not make you happy? Like the ones you are denying? This victimhood complex has to end at some point and this myth you are promoting is what's keeping it alive, the ironic part is that most african nations don't have this view and those that do tend to be dictatorships trying to get money from the west to support their bad policies, while the richer nations look beyond that and are thriving as a result. Like I said before and seem to need to repeat over and over again, I do not support collonialism, it was not pretty for many nations but it was not all hell and plundering like you claim it is and in fact for some nations was a great benefit compared to what they had before.
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@ziyaulansari2759 just watch the channel from the historian i mentioned, he and others are the main source of information against the mainstream narrative that promotes your ideology, your view is outdated and inaccurate and can only exist in a society that has immense censorship, misinformation and propaganda because this victimhood complex ideology is very profitable to some people which is why it exists but only in the western world, people might not like this periode of history but it's complex not as simple as "they plundered them" like some would want to believe.
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@george4281 western europe was already the richest place before colonialism, many african countries are dependent on fertilizer from western Europe, places like Zimbawe used to be the breadbasket of Africa untill Mugabe and his commies started to deport and take land from white farmers who farmed on an industrial scale. african governments are very corrupt and often steal from foreign aid, there is no negative coverage of african nations and people get punished if they do report on it. western countries are the places people from africa, the middle east, south america or asia flee to because they know they have a better life there, western nations buy luxury goods from african nations as in rare resources, diamonds, copper, cash crops like Cacoa or Sugar, no african nation has a major manifacturing or scientific institutions. you don't know anything about geo-politics or history, now time to see if youtube auto deletes this comment for being hard truths.
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@george4281 nations that had lots of slaves are actually poorer than the nations that did not or abolished it soon afterwards. Check south america and the ottoman empire for notes. You don't know anything about history.
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@george4281 that's why everyone wants to live here and we are the richest and used to rule the world because we have a barren wasteland but used africans to skyrocket our civilization beyond everyone else, even China when before they were the center of the world. You are delusional. Meanwhile in reality African nations are embracing western policies like capitalism and getting investment from European nations, we buy their goods and we sell them our goods, stop living in fantasy.
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