Comments by "No Name" (@NoName-hg6cc) on "Fire of Learning"
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@Dies_iræ_666 Dire la verità è offendere? Faresti ridere chiunque abbia un poco di cultura e conoscenza, oltre che renderti ridicolo di fronte a tutti gli altri, visto che non c'è MAI stata una maggioranza pro indipendenza.
Parte del dialetto sicialiano fa parte della lingua italiana, che non è solo fiorentino, fin fal Medioevo. La polenta c'è al nord, in Lombardia e Ttentino, come negli Abruzzi e nel Molise, i tipi di pasta ( gnocchi, tortellini, maccheroni) si trovano dappertutto e da molto tempo.
Il baccalà si mangia anche al Nord e le maschere sono conosciute in tutta italia.
Prova a chiedere ad un parigino cos'è il morue sèche non lo sa, o ad u heeco se conosce l'alevropita( sai cos'è?), dubito lo sappiano,il cornetto invece è diffuso ovunque in Italia.
La Storia in comune inizia con i Romani e prosegue nei secoli dopo, nel Medioevo. Romani che, fra l'altro, avevano nell'Italia, isole comprese, il centro dell'Impero, senza divisioni, quelle te le sei inventate tu.
Te l'ho detto, dovresti studiare e portare prove, io non ho tempo né voglia di insegnare ad un'asino come te( chiedo scusa all'asino per il paragone) partendo da zero, sarai sempre un regionalista buzzurro e senza uno straccio di argomento che s'arrabbia quando li si fa notare che la sua regione è parte di un insieme, perché ti credi speciale ( lo sei ma in un altro senso rispetto a quello che dici tu).
Caro zoomer, per te meno internet e porno e più libri, altrimenti continuerai a fare figuracce
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@Dies_iræ_666 Sei sei ignorante e cerebroleso non posso farci nulla, io ti ho spiegato perchè siamo nazione, tu hai solo contato storielle e balle, forse qualcuno ci casca, perchè è al tuo livello, da asilo nido, di studio, io no.
Per prima cosa qui i secessionisti sono una minoranza, in Spagna Catalonia, Paesi Baschi, Andorra tutti vorrebbero separarsi, così come il Nord Epiro e le altre regioni greche. Secondo, un siciliano è molto più simile ad un lombardo di quanto un provenzale o di un bavarese e un prussiano o un greco delle isole e uno del continente. Se si parlassero in dialetto neppure loro si capirebbero, stessa cosa per le differenze regionali e i piatti, con la differenza che in Italia ci sono tradizioni, costumi e una Storia comune.
Puoi far fesso uno straniero o qualcuno della tua contrada che, come te, non ha mai viaggiato, non me, il tuo regionalismo ed estremismo anti italianismo ti rende irrazionale ed è, francamente, patetico
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@Dies_iræ_666 No true, despite the differences the similarities are more than the difference: the language (Italian is, like Sardinian a language, Veneto is a dialect), the culture etc...the separatist are a minority, unlike countries like Spain(Catalonia, Pais Vascos), France(Brittany, Corsica), Greece( Northern Epirus), these countries are evidently less united
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@keyos1955 You keep telling bs and I can't understand why you do. Are you a bot?
Yes, East Roman Empire morphed into something different with time. It's not that in 476 they stopped being Roman but in time they weren't anymore, despite having a close ties.
Again, Greek was important BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LANGUAGE even in the East was Latin, which was the most important language in the West, this is important because, you like it or not, the language define a civilisation
Again, they had ties but weren't Rome, otherwise HRE was the Roman Empire as well, they called themselves Romans!
Christianity, CATHOLIC Christianity the one with the centre the Pope, was the official religion with Constantine in 300, until then and even some time after that they were pagans, so your crap about religion is utterly irrelevant.
Was Christianity a Roman religion? For a bit, towards the end. Was Orthodox Christianity a Roman religion? *NO*. FULL STOP.
There is a clear distance between the two and Romans did only know the first, like it or not.
So Byzantine Religion? Greek.
Architecture? Greek/Medievsl Greek
Law? Roman, but with HEAVY Greek influences
Military tactics and structure? Byzantine/ Medieval Greek, Roman's didn't have that structure
Political? Again, Medieval Greek, Romans didn't have the military to lead politics.
So again, they were not Romans anymore since 700 AD at least. The last Roman Emperor was Justinian
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@keyos1955 Ok, but I think this is the last time, as I cannot afford to mend the lacks in your instruction for free.
I'm not saying it's you, even though maybe your lack of effort and curiosity is part of the problem, your country's school system is to blame
Again, you cannot make the difference between someone still in the military becoming consul and a civilian.
Casear became a civilian to be consul, like Scipius, Marc Anthony, Augustus etc... When war broke of course consuls with military expertise were chose but they weren't military .
In the Byzantine empire there was a military aristocracy that didn't exist in the Roman state, not even during the Roman Empire.
Again no, Constantinople became capital LIKE ROME, but only of the East part.
Look you might consider a career as a 🤡, History is not for you
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@keyos1955 Where are yours? When are you gonna answer to mine question?
You said Cursus Honorum was military but it wasn't only military, like it wasn't Roman politics. Sure, there were those with military background but others,like Cicero, did not have the military command, they were mostly civilian. This didn't happen in late Byzantine Empire.
Greeks civilization didn't disappear, civilization almost never disappear, the culture may change but the root remain. You should have learnt how to read and argue, you couldn't understand my statements nor rebut them, you only used spite and logical fallacies, and load of bs.
I try it again, for the last time:East Roman Empire didn't disappear, it gradually morphed into something different, by the time Eraclio died the Empire was Roman no more. It has ties, sure, but it wasn't Rome. Stop.
If you think differently, for the last time, let's agree to disagree and move on
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@keyos1955 Ahahahahahaha Ahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha
you had to think for TWO DAYS and you came up with the sane bs?
Cursus Honorum was a trail of different paths AMONG WHICH there was a military one, but that's it.
Cicero was a politician, not a general, he wasn't chose to be Consul for his military qualities.
Greek civilisation didn't disappeared if Greek culture survived, this is an Historical Truth. Seem that you didn't study what make a civilisation, its culture, among the other things you didn't study.
I say that you didn't reply because you didn't and seeing the crap you spitting that was probably for the best.
From Roman Kingdom to Roman Republic to Roman Empire costumes, language etc...didn't changed, between Roman Empire, East Roman Empire included, and the Greek Byzantine Empire it did.
So what you say makes no sense.
Again, it was Roman indeed until Eraclio. Then it turned something different, which I NEVER said it was like Ancient Greece but close to Greece than to Rome in some aspect and totally new from Ancient Era in others (Medieval Hellade)
You didn't bring any argument or proof to support your thesis, oy logical fallacies so the issue is moot.
Let's just agree to disagree and move on.
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@keyos1955 Again with your bs. I can't help but laugh at the pathetic crap you are spouting.
Cursus Honorum was a mostly civilian path, not a military one. Your education, as I said, it's abysmal, you can't even open a book or look on google. Pathetic
Praetor were not only military but also magistrate. Did Cicero also had a military background? Of course, but that's not why he was chosen as consul, WHICH WAS A CIVILIAN OFFICE, not a military one. The fact he COULD move the army it doesn't make it a predominantly military society. Rome was a warrior.city but it did not based its civilisation on the army, like Byzantines.
Culture is what makes a civilisation, even a kindergarten know this. The fact civilisation are not alive it doesn't mean they disappeared, an Historian or someone who REALLY love History would know this.
No, between Roman Kingdom, Republic and Empire it changed little, something changed yes but not as much as it did after 476 onward, like the language, capital,architecture, state structures, identity, etc... changed you refused to discuss further relying on logical fallacies. I'm still waiting for proofs and arguments from you but I'll probably wait in vain, so let's agree to disagree and stop here.
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@keyos1955 Anyone who read this conversation and has a minimum oh History knowledge understand you know nothing about Cursum Honorum and Roman History in general. You can go on making a fool of yourself but you cannot get upset when someone makes fun of you for it.
Do you know what "not only" means? I'll make an example: not only your History knowledge is poor but also you reading skills are.
Wikipedia could be a good place as anything for you to start, you'd would avoid looking this pathetic. Most of magistrate duty had nothing to do with military power.
You keep insisting they are military, while I have said they were NOT ONLY( read on the vocabulary what "not only" means) military but also civil, most predominantly
And you keep saying it was predominantly military: like if making laws and keeping treasury in check was military matter. 😂
Again, you use disappear like the ties of those civilisations and the new never existed. Again, civilisation DON'T DIE, they CHANGE.
You didn't show any argument or proof and the only thing you did quote didn't actually support your thesis. And you dare asking me? I showed you how, from language to architecture, Byzantines distanced themselves from Roman, Sophia church included!
Again, I'm tired of schooling you, so let's agree to disagree, or if you want to go on bring proofs of your bs. Of course you cannot so you keep acting stupid hoping to tire me off
I told you before, if t is having the last word your real objective, all you had to do is ASKING. 😉
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