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And now shooting is Ian with the Tiny Cricket
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The reason the early Martini-Henry .577-450 cartridges look like brass foil is because they are brass foil.
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No ammo shortage there I see.
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@michelguevara151 Depending on the quality lathes can be had relatively cheap. High quality Tool Room or Instrument Shop. Not so much. But it's not so much the lathe. It's all the tooling.
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An intriguing piece of machinery. But one asks why? It seems overly complex for the job. Just my opinion.
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Just about any bolt action conversion is going to be a kludge to a certain amount. This looks like it would be expensive to mass produce. The bolt action conversion that really looked slick was the Manlicher (sp) straight pull Ian looked at in the Beretta factory collection
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There has long been a decree from the French Ministry of Industry that all French firearms, aircraft, weapons systems and automobiles have to have a certain amount of "weirdness" to them. Hence the LeClerc MBT has a main gun in 120mm Baugette.
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Without the Bugs hopefully
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And here I thought it meant being "a chosen man"
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One reason I could see for the dovetails on top of the receiver is not only for an optical sighting system but to give the individual soldier optics for longer ranged observation purposes.
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Depending on the alloy used in the receivers the heat treating process would involve heating to the Austenizing temperature (1200 to 1400 degrees F depending on the alloy if memory serves and then quenched in either water or oil). This is the temperature at which the steel undergoes a phase change and goes from a face centered cubic structure to a body centered cubic structure. What this means is the alloying elements (the Carbon, Vandium, Chrome or what ever is in the specific alloy) go from being on the faces of a cube made up of 8 iron atoms to being inside the cube of 8 iron atoms. The quenching process drives the temperature down fast enough that the steel is unable to go through the phase change back to the face centered structure. However this process also introduces stress into the structure of the steel. This were the second part of the heat treating process becomes involved. The tempering or drawing back of the steel that reduces its overall hardness but also decreases its brittleness and increases its resistance to shock loads. And this is where I suspect the heat treatment process of the steel in the receivers was flawed. The temperatures involved in the tempering process vary by alloy but often also involve bring the steel to a prescribed temperature and holding it at that temperature for a certain period of time. And then letting the steel cool slowly. Over heating the temper will make the steel too soft for the intended use. And under heating will leave the steel harder and more brittle than the specification call for. Unfortunately the Rockwell Hardness tester was not invented until well after the Springfield '03 production started which would of allowed for spotting the problem early on.
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@PrototypeSpaceMonkey And if those are unavailable they substitute diving boards from the Elbonian Olympic Diving team
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New mike's, good whiskey. New mikes, good whiskey. Whiskey, definitely whiskey.
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@dakkadakka9189 Until that German investor stepped forward BMW would either have been bought out by Mercedes, Rover or AMC. Or gone under. Yah, AMC. Actually at the time AMC was lightyears ahead of BMW and Rover in terms of body technology. Engine technology they were a pretty average US manufacture. AMC at the time was looking for European partner for assembly to break into the European market. Producing cars that were smaller than the average American car IMO they would have been well placed to be a major factor in the European taxi market. The reason that BMW was in such deep trouble was their insistence on being upscale. Such an arrangement would have been beneficial to both parties. BMW would have benefited from production technology. AMC from BMWs engineering expertise. This would have gained BMW an established US dealer network and AMC access to the European market. Remember this was at the time that AMC was developing their aluminum block inline six". They had tested OHC versions of the 196 and would test OHC versions of the later big bore short stroke 199/232. These were rejected for further development for cost reasons. OHC engines may or may not have fewer parts. Plus they may or may not be less expensive to manufacture. "The ultimate failure of the aluminum block engine in the market place had more to do with owner neglect than poor engineering. The engine required the head to be re-torqued every 6 or 8 thousand miles due to thermal expansion issues that nobody really had a handle on at the time. Plus due to the aluminum block it required proper coolant mixes. Typically most owners never read the owner's manual.
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I would think the magazine/ammunition hopper/qizmo latch on the side would be subject to accidental opening
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I can just see this in wet freezing conditions.
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And change the round to French .30 Long
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I wonder if John Moses Browning ever sat down and thought. "What if we extend the magazine and barrel, add a front hand grip. Put a stock on the frame and let the hammer fall automatically"
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What's that mechanical click after each shot.
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And the 1st Sgt carried a bull pup 2 pounder
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Ian would have been SOL in the 1920s in terms of left handed shooting Rube Goldberg is still around to some degree in the Maker community today. Some of the useless contraptions that are made (marble machines come to mind) that still look cool in operation. One place you can see a very large collection of mechanical masterpieces from the late 19th and early 20th centuries is The House on the Rock in Spring Green WI Southwest of Madison. Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen is in the same area.
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@zxggwrt And Tattoo to do the grunt work. Plus it's "rich Corinthian leather"
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The only rifle to have a film named after it.
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@Khan.WrathOf It's not just the krauts. I had a Renault 18i wagon that you had to take the splash panel off to access just about anything from underneath. Other than that it was comfortable and actually drove really nice.
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@ZOMBYMARIO Plus all the parts are made to an insanely tight tolerance. Which doesnt mean they don't work. It means they just cost more to make. An old saying in tool rooms and machine shops is for every decimal place the price goes up*. Especially considering the state of machine tools at the time. In reality it took the British to show the world just how simple a sub-gun could be. *If a feature on the part is specified as 8mm +/- .1mm you can spit them out like popcorn. Especially if there is no milling or shaping involved. Just turning operations. It's what screw machines are really good at. But change that to 8mm +/- .01mm or even +/- .05 mm things get dicier. Tool wear shows its effects that much faster. These were the days of high carbon or maybe high speed steel cutting tools.
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@Khan.WrathOf Yah, the French do things their own way. But the few French cars I've been in were very comfortable. Aside from a Dalphine I got a ride in once.
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Look photograph of the US Special Forces Sargent sure makes it look like the FG-42 was being looked at or even being used in weapons familiarization in the 50s or later.
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This and the range video make up for it. Shooting that dual .50BMG would likely take the GDP of a small country. Full mag dump on both guns = a small mountain of brass.
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When saw the title my to first thought was "Pull!".
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@davidtuttle7556 To be honest all I ever wanted to find under the tree was Ertha Kitt in her scanties singing Santa Baby
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It was also the introduction of the Small Block V-8 that had a great deal to do with it. But sometimes I wonder what would have happened if GM had pursued a DOHC 6
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One practical use. When NASA detects an incoming doomsday asteroid one round from this puppy will do the job. Only they'll need to start building Saturn V's again to get it into orbit
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Mr Bond wants his pistol back. Ian really should have been wearing a tuxedo, smoking a Dunhill, a martini in one hand (shaken not stirred) and a hot sultry blond hanging off of shoulder. RIP Sean.
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It sure ain't no FG-42. A really doubt the Ordinance Board had any idea just wtf they were thinking about. IMO all they would have had to do is have a fairly average infantryman of circa 1954 shoot one of the experimental fully automatic M1s and they would have seen it was a bad idea. From the prone position with a bipod. Maybe not so bad. Sometimes I have the idea that if the stock wasn't Walnut or some other hardwood the Ordinance Board automatically rejected it.
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I wonder if a full stainless case would actually be cheaper. I can see using stainless from the possible corrosion standpoint. But stainless in general is actually weaker than carbon steel. Especially the non magnetic 300 series stainless steels. Recommended torque values for Grade 8 SAE or Grade 12 ISO fasteners is around 60 or 70 % higher than stainless fasteners.
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The Irish probably have the most field use of these given the number of times elements of the Irish Army have been deployed on UN peacekeeping missions.
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@AhHereWeGo Doubles as a really lousy Brass Knuckle
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One wonders just how much test firing Spingfield and the army did under "combat" conditions given stories about cases failing to extract. If they didn't because of financial restraints then the death of any cavalry trooper that could be attributed to a non functional carbine* can be laid at their feet along with the US Congress. *let's not get I to the whole pronunciation thing
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@ElCrab Yes I understand the issue was mainly with the ammunition. But the rifle and ammunition were part and parcel. There certainly was no issue with the strength of the design. IMO it wasn't the best of the single shot rifles of its era. But it wasn't a complete disaster either. Th ed action was strong enough to have test rifles made up in .30 Krag.
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@ElCrab Still the reason not to test the Trapdoor under extreme stress was a fatal mistake. Doing so would have prevented its combat issues with the original ammunition. But given there was practically zero ammunition alloted for range practice.
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@ElCrab A tually since drawn brass cartridges hadn't really been worked out I wonder if a composite case similiar to a shotgun shell would have worked. The brass base would have provided the gas seal. The paper based portion could have been varnished or waxed to seal it against moisture.
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Plus if the author was in the Marines just how did he wind up in North Africa. The only Marines could possibly have been in the North African, Italian or European theaters would have been either in the Marine detachment on major warships or some embassy personal if they stationed Marines at embassies then.
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The Czechs, the heroes of the gun design world. Complicated little buggar
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It's not just the manufacturing cost. There's the engineering and development work. It's not just a matter of copying an existing item. Then there is the tooling and ma CV hinerh costs. Company A decides to build and market lets say a semi auto version of the Johnson LMG. And they don't have the machine tools needed to ro the job. And the reproduction will have limited sales. The cost if all of this has to covered somehow. And in any liability insurance. Plus th hey are planning on making a profit. After all. It's a business. Not a charity.
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@JohnHughesChampigny I can think if two specific areas of shooting sports where a reproduction is useful and probably highly desirable. Cowboy Action events and re-enactments. After all would someone really want to risk damage to his possibly expensive antique firearm.
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@JohnHughesChampigny Not really. The re-enactors I'm thinking of are Civil War and earlier.
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@JohnHughesChampigny Yes I have seen it. As Ian pointed out with the FG-42 repos SMG iirc put as much work into the magazines as the rifle.
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I never knew Rube Goldberg was Prussian.
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I knew about the rifles but the pistol. I would think the artillery would want a little more fire power than this if enemy infantry or cavalry show up. The only real change the system needs is a second stage to the trigger that would drop the block and eject the spent casing. Fire, squeeze the trigger some more and the spent case ejects. That would be even slicker.
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Que the Jeapordy thyme. Not only because of the time factor but because you are so screwed
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