Comments by "" (@asgaiyawaya3973) on "CBN News" channel.

  1. Let me ask you this question, since when has the CCP ever been honest about anything? For that matter when was the last time they actually had a good idea. Keep in mind it took the CCP half a century to figure out the Great Leap Forward and the one child policy were both the dumbest ideas they ever came up with that China still suffers the aftereffects to this day. Before you make a rebuttal on the one child policy think about this first. Suppose today right now China goes to war with anyone for any reason, someone owes your president money maybe, and the war goes badly who do you have to replace any PLA members who die? Note I said assume the war goes badly and historically speaking there is no excuse for being ignorant of what I am asking. You are losing ships planes and most important lots and lots of people. Who are you going to replace them with? That's the issue the one child policy created. This is also the reason why China hasn't gone to war since your fight with Vietnam.
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  2. How so?
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  3.  @DerekPK  I lived in Asia for 6 years. With everything China pulled over the years if someone said the ccp was doing anything this nefarious chances are good it’s not propaganda. You will have to prove it is.
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  4.  @DerekPK  so then why believe a word they say then? That’s like the pot calling the kettle black.
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  5.  @DerekPK  then you see what I mean
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  6. Actually they have attempted it and last time I checked they keep trying anyway they can. Back in 2014 a large Uygher group was found in Thailand and the Thai Government locked them up and it was debated what to do about them and it is still an ongoing debate with different factions having their own opinion on the matter. How do I know about this? Because I was living in Thailand at the time. There are other countries either neighboring or within reach of China with similar incidents involving Uyghurs.
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  7. You know I couldn't help but notice the comments cheering the ccp for their efforts against the church but can't really say anything when asked to justify their comment. Except one I have to credit to who gave it a try. It was really a good conversation but the only flaw in his argument was that he ran into what logic refers to as the law of noncontradiction which refers to using standards to attack a standard in his case he was trying to virtue signal by saying that in the Bible God ordered the conquest of certain countries, in doing so calling upon justice upon God. Except he did so without reading everything about that conquest namely what prompted it. According to scripture the canaanites were guilty of sexual immorality, which is further clarified by Greek historian Herodatus and what the Bible is talking about is what could be best described as ritualistic rape, incest and prostitution which extended even to children, they were also guilty of child murder, Herodutus again clarifies that the canaanites worshipped an idol named Moloch which had these huge hands over a fire and on these hands would be placed babies some no older than 2. While these kids would be literally cooked alive there would drums that would be beaten so the kids parents couldn't hear their own child's painful screams as it's roasted alive. So essentially God was placing judgment on a nation of rapists, child molesters, and child murderers whom in most criminal justice systems today would receive the death penalty. So essentially we both agreed that there was a need for justice when someone commits such crimes but where we disagreed on was was God an offender or was he acting justly. If we take both scripture and history into account God's actions were justified. My opponent didn't want to agree to this for what seemed to be 2 reasons. 1. To take this into account exonerates God and 2. He preferred a black and white view of justice when justice in actual practice is hardly black and white. Look up the differences between justifiable homicide, murder and manslaughter to see what I mean. Yes they all involve killing but each one has very specific differences. This example shows why we need the full story including the reasons before giving a fair judgment otherwise any judgment you make is entirely arbitrary and a miscarriage of justice.
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  8. So you support murder. Let me put it to you this way suppose it wasn't Christians but instead they were doing these exact same things to your people would you still support them? Point being murder is murder that's why countries where no one is above the law sees murderers the same way no matter who it was committed against because all are equal under the law. Let me put the same logic another way what kind of society would you prefer to live in. One where the government decides who lives and who dies or one where even the law and the courts who enforce the law would never allow the government to make such decisions without due process? Think about that very carefully because part of the logic is to be understood as whether you live or die depends on what the government's attitude towards you is.
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  9.  @12345as-k  You make that assumption based on the idea that that is how the party works and maybe on paper that's how it works but there is a huge difference between paper and practice. In practice even if you do follow the rules you can easily be a target for any number of reasons. Stalin justified many of his own purges of folks whom thought they were as close as brothers to Stalin, and there were similar murders under Mao and Pol Pot, and this was the line he used to justify the action, " I know a traitor before he knows it himself." Meaning for you to be on the chopping block suspicion and just being in the wrong place have too much power, too much money, etc just to be targeted. That's how Communism works in practice. Now the rule of law doesn't permit this. Rule of law follows you are innocent until the state proves you are guilty. Communism is guilt or innocent is based entirely on the party and the guy in charge and whether or not you follow the rules is entirely irrelevant. Think of a slave on a plantation who constantly follows the rules but still gets whipped just because the master is in a bad mood and you just happen to be in his sight that's how it really is in a communist state.
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  10.  @12345as-k  Let me put that same slave analogy another way. One of the biggest reasons to justify persecuting Christians is foreign influence. How many foreigners do you think the arrested Christians personally know? I actually spent 6 years in Asia and I have visited Christian communities where they never even seen a foreigner before. These are often small villages in the middle of nowhere that can only be accessed by roads you wouldn't dare drive on in anything that wasn't built for off roading. Now maybe in the larger cities you can put a generous percentage on how many actually knew a foreigner but all of them? Really?? Then there is this accusation that they are engaged in Terrorism? Really?? And I suppose I am suppose to ignore the fact that this is coming from an ideology that arguably has had more terrorist groups attached to their name then even Jihadist groups in the past 100 years. In fact I would bet that if you spoke to a Chinese Christian you will find that they are more Chinese then the CCP wants even you to believe. In fact historically speaking whenever a political decision was made to use Christians as cannon fodder in wars, much to the states annoyance, they turned out to be 100x more loyal to the defence of their state then any radicalized citizen can ever become. You don't have to take my word for it look it up yourself any country that ever tried to get rid of Christianity that way bet you anything it turned into a surprising lesson in Christian sub culture time and time again. You can start with the Romans under Marcus Aurelius. Even Stalin tried it in WW2 he had to quietly exterminate them after it turned out that many of them were willing to fight and die for Russia despite what Stalin put them all through and knowing Stalin wasn't to be trusted.
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  11. What do you mean by this?
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  12. Kinda hard when the rest of the world is on the take, has money in China or is dependent on China in such a way that stepping up against them on anything can bring problems of a different kind. Which is sad because what it comes down to is no one has any c@jones to do what's right and at the end of the day it's all about self-interest. Sorry to paint a very sobering picture but it is what it is. Best we can do is build awareness boycott Chinese products and pretty much be as much of a thorn in the ccps side as possible.
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  13. Did you even read the Bible? Who do you think identified himself as I am? As in the one who always is. That was Yahweh and Jesus actually said whoever has seen me has seen the father. To be understood as both him and Yahweh are two of the same being. How is this possible you might ask? Are you suggesting he is not omnipresent? Because if you are talking about God in some other term then you are not referring to the God of the bible that is omnipresent because that term means not limited to time and space so he, God, can be 2 different distinct identities of a single God because God has that ability. So you not only have it backwards but you don't even have the right God in mind.
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  14. How so?
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  15.  @Indiancommunist019  And how many different translations of say Romance of the Three Kingdoms or the 5 Confucian Classics, are there? And that's just for scholarship purposes but the point is clear translating a book even a religious one doesn't prove corruption. In Law we have what is called Chain of Custody which is the paper trail from the current paperwork on whatever it is to the original. Now if your brain is working as it should be then your question should be why is this relevant. Well it's simple, translations especially over time can be used to compare each other. Just like what we do in a Chain of Custody because what it allows us to do is to compare and look for deviations in the narrative. Now if you pushed language to the side, for one thing no one speaks King James English and that wasn't the very first bible not by a long shot, and just focused on this question is there any deviation in anyone book of the bible? See why Chain of Custody is relevant? Furthermore unlike religions like Islam Christianity doesn't have a sacred language. You can look that up you will not find any pastor saying this language or that is how the Bible should be read in fact Martin Luther started Lutheranism because the Catholic Church tried to push for things like the Latin Bible to only be taught. There were others but the punchline was Martin Luther recognized that the Catholic Church was trying to make it so that only the clergy were allowed to read and interpret the Bible and Martin Luther strongly disagreed with this position and today he is regarded as an apologist who is widely read even by Catholics. So if you thought the bible was supposed to be read in one translation I am sorry but you got your religions confused because that's not a Christian teaching. In fact only a handful of churches out of 20,000 completely different Churches actually push the King James Bible while all the others use whatever translations they have which have very little if any differences. I happen to know this because I have read through the Bible 8 times and each time with a different bible. So try again.
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  16. Aren't you proselytizing? So then by your own logic you should be banned as well.
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  17.  @goldengun9970  You being Jewish doesn't tell me anything. If you knew anything about Christianity you would know that the first 4 books of our bible are word for word the Torah. Of course we can play this game of going back and forth on who knows what but if you preaching what someone should or shouldn't do like you are right now then yes you are proselytizing. And if it isn't then why is one of the definitions for proselytization the following " advocate or promote (a belief or course of action)." You are promoting attacks on Christians or the stoppage of the spread of the religion so yes you are. Your argument is with the definition not with me.
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  18.  Vertiegrief  no church I have ever been in says this. Now granted there are well over 20,000 completely different church groups. A fraction of them, like SDA and Messianic Jews, are based in Jewish practices. But the majority that I have encountered are the exact opposite of what you say. Hence, why when the broader Old and New Testament is discussed the term judeochristianity is used. Even my church credits Judaism for the origin of Christianity. And saying otherwise doesn’t make it less true.
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  19.  Vertiegrief  nobody cares who you really are and if we are so hateful then come compared to Islam we don’t do anything most hateful groups do? Take terrorism for example doesn’t it strike you as odd that Islam is overloaded with terrorist groups, and anarchist socialist groups same way but Christianity? There is no more then a handful at any given time. For your statement to be true shouldn’t that be the exact opposite? And I am including countries where no one would blame them for starting an armed rebellion like North Korea, China even Iran where they are a very small minority. For your statement to be even slightly true Christians would have to be doing at least something and they never do. Doesn’t that strike as odd?
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  20.  Vertiegrief  weren’t my exact words no more then a handful at a time? So all you did was prove my point. And trying to say Islam Christianity two sides of the same coin, didn’t make this less true. See that’s the problem with forcing something to be true you still have the reality of it to contend with. Anarchism and Islam have 1000x more violent groups then Christianity ever had at any given time.
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  21.  Vertiegrief  yet Christianity rarely ever commits the same activities as the others in fact they are usually persecuted by the others and for good reason. Christianity centers on God rather than state. Christianity follows the teaching render under unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and render to god what is god’s. Meaning Christianity doesn’t promote taking over governments nor countries. Regimes sense Rome actually tried to prove their disloyalty to their nations only to find out they were just as loyal as any other and to make matters worse more reliable. Look up the thundering legion and the theban legion. The other problem every christian that has ever been murdered in a persecution had friends who knew them better than the state did. As a result for every Christian they killed they would be replaced by 5,6 even 10 more. So trying to equat or lump them all in one group just further shows how separated Christianity really is from the others.
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  22. which is 1 church out of 20,000 completely different church groups. In fact in most churches I have attended, especially baptist churches Jewish symbols are venerated and often used as common motifs. Such as the 10 commandments and the Torah scroll. So I am calling you out on this one you are definitely lying on this one as well.
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  23.  Vertiegrief  let me just ask you this did even go to a church or did you just buy whatever some militant anti theist stated about Christianity without doing anything remotely considered research?
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  24.  Vertiegrief  as to your claim about Martin Luther and Russia were true does that really change the fact it was Christianity that supported the establishment of Israel? Or that the most active people in the rescue of Jews during WW2 in Europe was in fact Christians? Doesn’t that fact strike you as odd if what you stated was true of the whole? See that’s why in logic there is an error in logic called fallacy of composition. There are always exceptions and all generalisms are usually wrong with few exceptions.
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  25.  Vertiegrief  and that somehow makes what happened in WW2 less true how exactly?
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  26.  Vertiegrief  you seem to be desperately scraping a barrel for something making it painfully obvious you are not winning anything.
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  27.  Vertiegrief  I wouldn’t use that example at all because guess what religion was all the rage in Germany at those times? It was Christianity. So you didn’t attack Christianity you showed another example of what the religion promoted a particular custom which motivated Christian Germans in WW2 like Colonel Stauffenburg, the guy that tried to kill hitler well one of them anyway, from hindering the holocaust anyway they can. See how that example really didn’t help you?
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  28.  Vertiegrief  actually the nazis were big into the occult which would explain their antisemitism because the two biggest cults in Germany at the time, The Vrill and Thule Societies, were both Nordic based and heavily antisemitic. And I have also heard the argument hitler was Christian by his own words the very same words he used to say he was a communist on the side of the Soviet Union all the way up until he attacked the Soviet Union and began throwing Russians in concentration camps, he said was for equality of Germans and we all know how that turned out long story short from 1930 to 35 he said he was for all sorts of groups and he betrayed every single one of them once he came to power. The Christian one no different in fact He put Herman Gering in charge of persecuting Christians in the Rhineland up until the Pope was willing to agree to play ball with Hitler. And when I say persecuting it was in every sense of the word even sending catholic clergyman to concentration camps for defying the regime. So spare me the hitler was a Christian argument it’s not fooling anyone.
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  29.  Vertiegrief  got any other half assed researched claims about Christianity are you done making a fool of yourself?seriously you are getting these from a militant atheist website aren’t you? The fact they are all historically inaccurate, incompetent is more like it, makes it a dead giveaway.
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  30.  @horizonenjoy2323  Difficult question to answer because I have traveled around the world quite a bit over the years. I wasn't a missionary or soldier or anything like that. I was just a teacher in SE Asia. But if you are asking where I was born and raised it would be US.
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  31.  Vertiegrief  You did learn it from an Atheist site? Really so I am supposed to magically ignore the fact that everything you just stated was quoted also by Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens and even atheist trolls like Sargon of Akkad who would't know Christian history even if it walked up and broke his nose? Yeah that's never going to happen. You did and the fact you are insisting your view of history, as if the past 4 years of humiliation taught you nothing, is the only correct view in fact proves it. Get an education and burn your anti theist trash. No one is buying it. You got conned get over it.
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  32. ​ Vertiegrief  Really you want to insist christians are anti semitic. Then how come Christian on Jewish violence is so rare? That's according to the National Crime statistic run by the FBI if you want to look it up. In fact for your statement to be true all 20,000 churches must be engaged in some kind of anti semitic activity of some kind and in most cases the very opposite tends to be the case. The mass majority of Churches, especially in the US,, are pro Israel. Now if you want to just look up who is committing the most violence against Jews, which according for your statement to be true then it should be Christians but again according to the actual statistics it's muslims. Why is that? because of Israel. So, if you want to insist on this rhetoric then yuo have no choice but to explain why Muslim on Jew violence is common and Christian on Jew violence is rare?
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  33.  Vertiegrief  Who cares that you are back.
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  34.  Vertiegrief  Really you are going to insist Hitler was never an occultist and expect me ignore the fact members of his own inner circle, like Rudolf hess and Heinrich Himmler were occult fanatics? Himmler even dedicated his headquarters to occult practices? Or how about this one Hitler actually financed occult literature, including an Occult magazine called Ostara? Yeah that's never going to happen. Oh and thanks for admitting you don't know Jack about evidence. If you actually look up how many crimes are actually solved by photgraphic evidence you will discover they are not that frequent. Documented evidence, like where the money is coming from and where it is going, which is how we know Hitler's party was financing occult literature and activities is considered proof, or like Journal entries like from Goerbbels own diaries where he actually quoted Hitler's actual belief's against Christianity and for Occultism yes that is considered proof because that counts as eyewitness statements. Next time you want to talk about proof or say what's proof and what's not maybe take a course in evidence first. I will say it again I study Criminal Justice which means I already know what counts as evidence and what doesn't. So congratulations you just played yourself.
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  35. Why?
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  36. How is that relevant age has no bearing what so ever on truth. For Instance science was for centuries of the opinion that the universe always existed this is called the steady state universe but then a catholic priest and Physicist in 1929 named Lemartre discovered big bang. Science wanted to reject this idea because it was biblical however as evidence surfaced such as red shift and the expanding universe it became impossible for science to continue to use that excuse. So the truth turned out to be that the universe had a clear beginning and if we go in the opposite direction we have the Greek philosopher Pathagoras who accurately measured the circumference of the earth and was the first to declare the earth was round. So what do we learn from both examples? Age is irrelevant truth is found in corroboration and direct or indirect evidence not age.
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  37.  Crim Sin  absolutely many critics of the bible forget there is both a new testament and old testament.
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  38. How so?
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  39.  @carloschacal9334  why would that be trouble though? Every religion philosophy and ideology thinks everyone else is wrong? Let me put it to you this way philosophers for years, and scientists, have argued for centuries over basic questions of nature and they still do and they all believe they are right? Why isn't this trouble?
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  40.  @carloschacal9334  i should add that when you give anyone group of philosophers or scientists power it is also disgraceful. Look at what happened with Eugenics and Social Darwinism and the disaster both of those brought by their proponents communism and fascism? Yet we still fund science and now science once again is being given too much authority and the evidence of this is in the Social backlash as well as scientists like Fauci being investigated for crimes. That's not counting the protests from people that just want their old lives back and can you blame them? Granted there is a pandemic which is a fair argument but it doesn't make the backlash less evident. It does show too much power given to scientists. Even Aldous Huxley in his book Brave New World shows where such authority leads to which is a different form of authoritarianism where science justifies everything even cruelty and inhumanity. You can say that is speculation if you want but have you noticed the level of protests in Canada and Australia just over vaxx passports and mask mandates. Now don't get me wrong I am vaccinated but doesn't that seem to show you that just about any group can be abusive when it comes to power? If so and Christianity is for separation of church and state then how is that troubling?
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  41. That’s why he’s gotta go. Preferably to a gallows but I will leave that to an international tribunal to decide.
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  42. How?
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  43. according to the narrative did he stay dead?
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  44. Yeah, as if communism didn't have it's own fair share of nonsense.
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  45.  Vertiegrief  funny so did the nazis up until the Nuremberg trials and they met their fates with the noose. Bet they weren’t proud when they got to He!! And realized they would suffer for it.
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  46. How so?
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  47. Like what exactly? Btw FYI I lived in Asia for 6 years so you might want to fact check whatever you respond with before replying.
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  48. and how well has that exactly worked out for you? Just the past 2 years alone is filled with examples showing the exact opposite of what you just said. With the recent school shooting, and the 2020 summer of insanity being just the cherry on top. And if these kinds of books causes harm then how come those raised on them tend to be 1000 times better then well anyone who refuses to even read such a book and are more productive as well. Care to explain such a paradox? And let me guess your response before you write it, Christians have been violent terrorists, or persecuted such and such people, yeah I have heard quite a number of these accusations so I will just save you some comment space and respond to that one anyway. So if Christians are such a way then how come just in countries where no one would blame them for leading a violent upraising, like China or Burma yes they are in such countries, how come they don't act as violent as that accusations states? Plenty of other countries with Muslim minorities leading all kinds of trouble but barely anything from Christian minorities in these same countries that can be verified from the START institute in Maryland and the Institute for Global Affairs and Security in the Hague who both maintain up to date lists on terrorist groups. You will find Christianity is barely a blip on that whole list with only a handful of such groups at any given time while Islam and left wing Marxist Socialist groups literally dominate the whole list. Care to explain that contradiction?
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  49. How so?
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  50.  @aaronbaldwin2380  but is that the fault of man or God? Let me illustrate just so my point is clear. If someone commits a crime is that the fault of lawmakers who debate and decide the laws or is it the fault of the perpetrator for ignoring the law and committing the crime?
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