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@honestaussie5747 Thank you for your reply. You seem to be verging very close to the "I do not understand so it must be fake" line of thinking. The filming of the lift-off of the Ascent stage of the Lunar Module from lunar surface was taken using the Westinghouse TV camera mounted on the LRV. The upward tilt of the camera was controlled by Ed Fendell in Mission Control, Houston. The distance from camera to LM and the rate of ascent of the LM were known in advance so all Ed had to do was move a rheostat at certain rate starting at a predetermined time in the countdown. He had to allow for a communications time delay of about 2.5 seconds and a motor reaction time of 0.9 seconds. This was not attempted " for each and every apollo mission" as you suggest just for the Apollo 15, 16 and 17 missions. The first 2 attempts failed for various reasons but Apollo 17 worked quite well. Take care.
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@honestaussie5747 You have made the claim that it is "fake" yet produced zero evidence to back that claim up. Take care.
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"I still don't understand"...just because you personally do not understand these issues does not mean that other are the same. I have found that it is pretty much guaranteed that anyone who mentions the Van Allen Belts as an insurmountable obstacle to space travel really knows next to nothing about radiation or these belts. The Van Allen Belts are called after James Van Allen, who worked for NASA and is credited with their discovery. While travel through this region of space requires careful planning, it is not the insurmountable obstacle that many reality deniers, in their ignorance, imagine it to be. The Van Allen Belts is a region of charged particles originating mainly from the solar wind that are contained by the Earth's magnetic field. The capsule walls and equipment shielded the astronauts from the vast majority of the particle radiation. The radiation dosage received by an astronaut while passing through the Van Allen Belts will depend on factors such as speed, shielding, trajectory, time spend in the region etc. The aim of the Apollo missions was to minimise the time spent in this region of space and thus reduce the exposure to a minimum. Here is quote from James Van Allen himself in 2004. "the outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights". Take care.
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@tvdylan Here are the words of Dr. James Van Allen himself: "The outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable. The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." Dr. James A. Van Allen.
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Bremsstrahlung.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi dkd, hope that you are well. Your comment that "would take about a one foot thick layer of lead for humans to pass through the van allen belt (sic)," is incorrect. These belts do provide a challenge for space exploration but far from an insurmountable one. Here is a quote from James Van Allen himself in 2004. "the outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights. I made such estimates in the early 1960s and so informed NASA engineers who were planning the Apollo flights. These estimates are still reliable." I hope that this clears things up for you. Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi again dkd, hope that you are well. Thank you for your reply. You wrote "that clears it up". I am glad that you have acknowledged that your original comment was incorrect. Most of our knowledge of these belts comes from satellite measurements and there are quite literally thousands of research papers on the topic. To learn more you may wish to read "Studying the Van Allen Belts 60 Years After America’s First Spacecraft" on the NASA website and the Wikipedia article titled "Van Allen radiation belt" is also a good place to start. Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi again dkd, hope that you are well. You wrote "I know much about the Van Allen belt" and also "never ask Wikipedia or a government agency ..(NASA).. for truth". Since the vast majority of our knowledge of the Van Allen radiation belts actually comes from NASA and its predecessors the Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL) and the Army Ballistic Unit then I suggest that you have somewhat of a cognitive dissonance issue to sort out. Good luck with that. Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 No DD, they are just glib statements that you throw out without thought, context or research! Furthermore you seem to be attributing statements to NASA to back up your misinterpretations while at the same time saying that NASA are not a source of truthful information! Furthermore again you are making claims about the Van Allen Belts that have been refuted by the words of Mr James Van Allen himself! Seriously, any bit of critical thinking going on there? Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi again DK, hope you are well. It is unfortunate that you did not have the time to actually watch the video that you linked for me otherwise you would have noted that what NASA engineer Kelly Smith actually said in relation to the Van Allen Belts was "Radiation like this could harm the guidance system, onboard computer or other electronics on Orion" and that the navigation and guidance engineers "must solve these challenges" before sending people through this region of space..The Orion spacecraft is not the Apollo spacecraft. The modern electronics and IC's used in Orion are much more sensitive to radiation damage and interference than the electronics used in the Apollo Program. Any failure in Orion's computer or guidance system could have catastrophic consequences for a crewed mission so testing is necessary. All this information is widely known and understood so it is regrettable that you did not come across it in your research. Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi again DK, thank you for your latest comment. I think that we have well established that I did watch the entire clip and that you simply wish to cherry pick phrases out of it without establishing the context that they are made in. You also seem to like directing people to videos that also cherry pick comments without explaining or attempting to understand the context in which they were made. I guess that is what makes you a conspiracy theorist. I prefer reality. Take care.
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@dkdurham2607 Hi DK, good to hear from you, hope that you are well. Personal incredulity and inability to understand has never been considered as evidence for anything other than themselves. Take care.
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Provide the evidence.....
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Nope, someone has been telling you lies. Try again. Speak truth. Take care.
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@ninjaman1714 Hi nm, hope that you are well. You wrote "pressure will always seek to equalise/ go from high to low.". Atmospheric pressure at ground level = about 1013hPa, atmospheric pressure at top Mount Everest = 330hPa. Does all the air suddenly start rushing upwards from the ground to "equalise" the lower pressure at higher altitude? Perhaps there is something that you haven't considered which is actually containing the atmosphere? Some sort of a force perhaps? Take care.
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Why are you all talk yet never produce any evidence to back up your claims? Take care.
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@mosesmanaka8109 Hi, hope that you are well. Various Apollo landing sites have been imaged, photographed and identified by several lunar probes and satellites in lunar orbit. For example China's lunar probe, Chang'e 2, which is capable of capturing lunar surface images with a resolution of up to 1.3 metres, spotted traces of the Apollo landing sites and the lunar Rover in 2010. The Japanese SELENE lunar probe obtained several photographs showing evidence of Moon landings and matched the terrain to Apollo footage and the ISRO (India) Chandrayaan-2 orbiter captured an image of the Apollo 11 Lunar Module Eagle descent stage. The orbiter's image of the Apollo landing site was released to the public in a presentation on September 3, 2021. In addition NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter has also captured sharp clear images of the Apollo 12, 14 and 17 landing sites. Take care.
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Don't just say it chris.....Produce the evidence! Take care.
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While travel through this region of space requires careful planning, it is not the insurmountable obstacle that many reality deniers, in their ignorance, imagine it to be. The Van Allen Belts is a region of charged particles originating mainly from the solar wind that are contained by the Earth's magnetic field. The capsule walls and equipment shielded the astronauts from the vast majority of the particle radiation. The radiation dosage received by an astronaut while passing through the Van Allen Belts will depend on factors such as speed, shielding, trajectory, time spend in the region etc. The aim of the Apollo missions was to minimise the time spent in this region of space and thus reduce the exposure to a minimum. Here is quote from James Van Allen himself in 2004. "the outbound and inbound trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft cut through the outer portions of the inner belt and because of their high speed spent only about 15 minutes in traversing the region and less than 2 hours in traversing the much less penetrating radiation in the outer radiation belt. The resulting radiation exposure for the round trip was less than 1% of a fatal dosage – a very minor risk among the far greater other risks of such flights". Take care.
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@bryanwhite6993 Hi bryan, you wrote. "It’s all done with underground cables.". Is that why satellite dishes point towards the sky? Take care.
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@rebelsoul5980 Hi again rs, hope that you are well. Interesting that you mention "he law of physics" so I assume that you must be familiar with Newtons' universal law of gravitation. Water is a fluid and its shape will conform to whatever forces are acting upon it. Up and Down are defined by the local gravitational vector. Take care.
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@rebelsoul5980 Hi rs, thank you for your reply. I am delighted, it seems that you have made excellent progress over the years. Now it seems that you understand that gravity exists and are now working on understanding its cause. Take care.
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"Lier"......Nope, he is clearly standing up in the video. Take care.
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@fiat2496 So why do you not back up what you say with evidence and explain in scientific and engineering terms and principles what is wrong with any of the Apollo spacecraft the would have prevented them achieving their mission? Why is it always claims with moon-landing deniers but never any actual evidence or even demonstrations of knowledge of the topic? Take care.
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Basically Temperature and Heat Energy are not the same thing. The VAB's do contain some particles with a very high velocity and therefore by definition a very high temperature. However there are very few of these particles per unit volume so the overall amount of heat energy that is contained is very little and there are fare too few particles to transfer any meaningful amount of heat energy to any passing spacecraft. Take care.
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@chrisking6874 "why then not use the Apollo technology rather than modern electronics"........Are you seriously suggesting that they should use obsolete technology from half a century ago that is no longer being manufactured and is in now way compatible with current systems? Using modern electronics is a challenge not an insurmountable obstacle. You will be happy to know that the Orion spacecraft successfully passed through the VAB's twice in its 25 day test flight in December 2022. Try to keep up to date with reality. Take care.
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@eventcone Thank you for your reply. Further to my original comment I have delved into the research and found that the total mass of the VAB's is actually less that 1 g. Take care.
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Hi RR, hope that you are well. You wrote "electrons....can be blocked by a sheet of paper" Wouldn't it depend on their energies? Beta particles are certainly not stopped by a sheet of paper. Take care.
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@rsrt6910 Hi again RR, thank you for your reply. I totally agree with your statement that "The aluminum skin of the Apollo CM is more than adequate protection from beta radiation of most energies" but I find it hard to understand where you are coming from when you write "beta radiation ......can be stopped by a sheet of paper". Perhaps you meant alpha particles? Take care.
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@TSGWPG So serious question: Do you actually think that talking the stupid is an adequate substitute for actual knowledge and understanding? Take care.
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@TSGWPG Well have you actually done anything else than talk the stupid. You made a claim about "misinformation" and over a week and many comments later you have not even attempted to back it up. Take care.
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Produce the evidence to back up your claim.
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