Comments by "Tx240" (@Texas240) on "Jake Broe"
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@fyr7343 Correction. Donetsk and Luhansk both voted for independence from Russia at the fall of the Soviet Union. They were both (as was Crimea) semi autonomous regions within Ukraine. People there didn't really care much what Ukraine OR Russia was doing. The status quo was fine.
There was no discrimination or persecution against Russian speakers until AFTER the 2014 Russian invasion of Ukraine.
And it was a Russian invasion of eastern Ukraine, not a separatist uprising. The original "separatists" were foreign criminals and anarchists which Russia transported to Ukraine and then supported with Russian special forces who trained them in basic tactics, use of captured equipment, and called in helicopter gunship support when Ukraine tried to respond.
I have a friend who lived in Donetsk. She fled to a city farther west and called the "separatists" (aka foreign Russian proxy fighters) t*rrorists. She was one of the Russian speakers you suggest wanted independence from Ukraine. Prior to 2022, she would tell you she was Russian. After February 2022, she was Ukranian and hates Russia for what they've done to her country, to her home, to her grandmother (killed by "separatist" artillery fire as they moved into town, similar to the current Russian tactic), to her friends who lived in Kharkiv, and for stealing her heritage by making it bad to be Russian.
THAT is the person you're suggesting wanted independence from Russia. People who didn't leave weren't "fighting for independence from Ukraine", they just didn't have resources to leave or believed the Russian propaganda on the TV saying "we're coming to help you!" (which was followed by artillery and then armed criminals and anarchists ranging through town).
As a bonus the first president of the DPR wasn't Russian OR Ukrainian. As I said, foreigners hoping to be the next Kadyrov or wanting an outlet for their criminal tendencies.
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Trump didn't just surrender. Trump bent over and grabbed his ankles in front of Putin. Trump is evil. Lieutenant Hegseth is a naive idiot.
Trump thinks he's a Master Negotiator much as Putin fancies himself a Master Strategist. In Putin's eyes, Trump is weak and confirming Western weakness.
Edit 6:46 Hegseth, Trump, and President Elon didn't think this through. Europe needs to guarantee Ukraine's security with their troops, but the US is against Ukraine joining NATO and the US will not send troops to guarantee security.
First, if Ukraine is going to give mineral rights to anyone, it's going to be countries that help with security. Second, when Putin inevitably breaks the peace, NATO troops will be casualties and the US will be sending troops... Either to secure Ukraine or to fight Russia as Russia, emboldened by American weakness and disinterest in Europe, moves into European NATO countries.
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21:07 sadly, Ukraine tried the same thing, to join NATO because they knew one day Russia would be back. Ukraine was told, "someday" while the west was also, unofficially, telling Russia that Ukraine wouldn't be allowed into NATO as an appeasement to Russian fears of a European invasion of Russia.
Because of their history of being invaded, Russia has a built in paranoia even if it's unfounded in this age.
And, here we are today. The Ukrainians paying the price for the West trying to appease evil. And, STILL there is the appeasement mindset "don't want to upset Russia" (Biden with ATACMS, Scholz with Taurus). We learn slow.
Send Ukraine everything they need, and then some, so they can defeat Russia on the battlefield and the US and Europe don't have to risk our soldiers lives fighting inevitable Russian invasion of the Baltics should Russia prevail in Ukraine.
Get the war over with as quickly as possible saves the most lives, prevents the most destruction, and gets the world back to "normal" sooner.
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4:42 re, RF Kennedy claims Russia invaded Ukraine in good faith
Even Prigozhin, in his "truth propaganda" just pointed out that all of Russia's reasoning for invading Ukraine was nonsense, made up, lies or just wrong.
Also, for people who think Ukranian lives would be saved if Ukraine didn't have the resources and equipment to fight against Russia's invasion, realize that if Ukraine capitulated, surrendered, that every fighting age man would be executed (or castrated) and every woman of child bearing age would be either raped or married off to a Russian soldier as a war prize.
Russia would employ these measures both to punish the Ukranian people for resisting and embarrassing Russia as well as to mitigate the demographic crisis in Russia.
Russia's missile campaign against civilians and the destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam are designed to punish the Ukrainian civilians for resisting as is Russian soldiers castrating Ukrainian POWs.
So, this "punishment campaign" and mindset of the Russians is already evidenced.
Withdrawing military aid to Ukraine and preventing them from defending themselves from unwarranted Russian aggression would be much, MUCH worse for Ukrainian people than allowing Ukraine to beat the Russians back out of Ukraine.
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