Comments by "Dirk Diggler" (@dirkdiggler8260) on "VICE TV"
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@immachine1565 No, I'm not a demolitions expert but unlike you, I'm willing yo admit it. Saying something is a fact doesn't make it so and given how there aren't any actual demolitions experts claiming it was demoed, I'd say that doesn't really bode well for your assertions. Just be honest and admit, you have no experience or knowledge of controllee demolition.
As I said, controlled demolitions start from the bottom whereas both towers collapsed at precisely where the planes struck. Now that is a fact and one that alone refutes any claims of controlled demolitions. I'm not a CD expert but I do know that demolitions devices are extremely sensitive to things like heat and geometry, so can you explain how they managed to survive the plane impacts and ensuing fires that raged for 60-90 minutes before collapsing? This is a huge problem for anybody claiming demolition so how do you reconcile this fact with your theory?
In respect to you claiming into it's own footprint, this isn't true unless you believe its footprint was SIX times its perimeter area. If it fell neatly into itz own footprint, why so much damage to surrounding buildings?
Regarding the link to the video you sent, the "huge explosion" was clearly just the actual sound of the collapse. Watch a video of a real controlled demolition and you'll see they're incomparable. Not only do they fall from the bottom up (unlike either tower), you'll hear a very loud series of explosions in sequence at the collapse initiation. In the footage you linked me to, you can't even rrally hear any explosion. They're incomparable to a real controlled demolition. They didn't look like CD's, nor did sound like CD's. You're essentially claiming to know more about CD's than seemingly the entire demolitions community and I'm sure you realise how absurd that would be, right?
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@davepowell7168 No, that's not exactly what happened but you are correct in saying velocity is of great importance being that there really isn't much that will stop a mass weighing the best part of 200 tons, travelling at around 500mph, certainly not a few steel columns a quarter inch thick, which is what the steel was at that height if i remember correctly. Force = mass x acceleration and the math shows those planes struck with a force equivalent to 1.35 tons of TNT. The plane was shredded and destroyed on impact, but not without smashed through several steel columns. If a piece of 2x4 can punch through solid concrete just being propelled by the wind, I'm pretty certain those planes cut through those columns like butter. I'm yet to hear a physicist making this argument and they won't because the math is verifiable and conclusive. For the record, aircraft grade aluminium is stronger than A36 structural steel, obviously the aluminium used on the planes fuselage is relatively thin gauge, but then it is a pressurised container.
In terms of velocity, Flight 11 was travelling at 495mph when it struck the tower and Flight 175 was travelling at around 587mph. Speeds easily achieved during a dive.
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@federalreservebrown2507 Wow. I have nothing to say to that sorry lol, what a bizarre response. You're clearly batsh!t crazy with zero concern for truth. Look how you've blatantly ignored key facts just because they oppose your view, choosing to ignore what the fire fighters who assessed WTC7 said, instead focusing on some fictional, booze soaked farmers 🙈 lol. Sheer lunacy.
Personal friend Alan Sabrosky?? Lol, I'm sure he is 🙄😂 Quit with the bs, how gullible do you think i am? Besides, why would anybody admit to being friends with that Jew hating crackpot?? I certainly wouldn't. What do you think about him saying the 911 truth movement has "utterly failed"? Not quite what you're claiming is it? 🤔 Now have you got anything other than arguments from incredulity and the personal opinion of people completely unqualified to be talking about such matters? Try finding me a demolitions expert who believes the towers were demoed and when you fail doing that, grow a set of balls and address what i asked you in my previous comment you fact-dodging blowhard. You have two fundamental problems i want you to address in that the fire fighters knew WTC7 was going to collapse hours before it fell, and how the hell would a demolition possibly bring the twin towers down precisely at the impact zones when it's pretty obvious any demolition devices located anywhere near those areas would have been instantly destroyed by the impacts and ensuing fires? Ignore this too, just like you ignore the fact Danny Jowenko (a personal friend too by any chance? 🙄) wasn't experienced in demolition structures anywhere near rhat magnitude and stated the towers were NOT demoed? Why are you burying your head to these facts if you have a genuine concern for truth? Rhetorical question as it's clear to all you have no interest in anything other than conspiracy, hence why nobody takes anything you say seriously.
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@davepowell7168 I don't profess to know the answer to this but a quick search suggests they were indeed visible. I don't know in all honesty as i have no knowledge of such things. I fail to see the argument here though when we literally watched the planes hit. The only people seemingly making this argument are no-planers. You do accept planes crashed into the towers that day right?
Physicists say those planes most definitely could and did cut through those relatively thin columns like butter and they have shown the math to back it up. If a paper thin ping-pong ball can smash through a ping-pong paddle, and a piece of 2x4 can punch through a solid concrete wall or curb, then I'm pretty sure a 200 ton mass travelling 500mph can severe relatively thin steel columns, I really can't understand why/how anybody could possibly question this. Mass and velocity is key here and we had a large mass travelling very fast so it stands to reason. If you were so confident in this argument, why haven't you or anybody else done the math to demonstrate it? The physics community would be shouting it from the rooftops. If you want me to dig out the math demonstrating how easily they smashed through them, i will do so if needs be. I do vividly remember thought that it was shown that the planes could have been travelling much slower and would still have struck with enough force to smash through them. As i said, there really is not much that is going to stop a plane travelling those speeds, amd certainly not a few thin steel columns.
Oc course firemens axes aren't made of aluminium, but then they don't use axes 155ft in length weighing the best part of 200 ton, swinging them at 500mph making it a completely incomparable analogy.
The planes never severed the core columns so that's again, irrelevant.
Yes the towers were constructed to withstand a strike from a 707, but NOT at take off weight as you claim. The scenario imagined by the designers was a 707 (the heaviest plane in service at that time which was smaller and lighter than the 767's that hit) that was coming into land whilst lost in fog, and therefore having very little fuel onboard left. The imagined scenario also meant they'd have been travelling 3 times less than what the planes that hit were travlling at, so we have a smaller mass travelling much slower and therefore striking with much, MUCH less force. Again, easily calculable should you wish to do the math. It should also be noted that the towers withstood the plane impacts amazingly well and is testament to their design and construction which enabled thousands of people to escape with their lives. It was the ensuing fires that brought them down, not the plane impacts.
Can i ask what exactly it is you believe as I'm confused by your arguments. First off, do you accept planes hit the towers, and do you believe the twin towers were demoed?
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@ramzichouk4080 "We were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse." - Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
"There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it.....On the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good......Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see. So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped." - Captain Chris Boyle NYFD
"They were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out." - Richard Banaciski NYFD Firefigher
"The biggest decision we had to make on the first day was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged WTC 7 a 47-story building heavily involved in fire. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. I issued the orders to pull back the firefighters and define the collapse zone. It was a critical decision." - Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY
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