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Comments by "mhtinla" (@mhtinla) on "How cohousing can make us happier (and live longer) | Grace Kim" video.
This lady is ignorant of cultural and religious differences. We already know what happened when Israeli and Palestinian are forced to live together. And that's just one example. There are people who cannot live with others because they have to have it their way.
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Those living in student housing seem happy because they are a highly homogenous community -- similar age (late teens to 20's), same goal (education and beer), financially dependent (parental help or student loan). Try mixing a student house and nursing home together, and see if everyone is still happy.
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This may only work in a highly homogenous society where everyone holds similar values. If you push for multiculturalism, globalization, and co-housing at the same time, it will be tragic.
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Plebian Hero That's because either 1) the difference is not yet extreme (e.g. someone insists you dress a certain way or not eat certain food, or even wants to cut your head off because of who you are), or 2) the community hasn't been lived close enough (e.g. does your community share one kitchen? one bathroom?)
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KeepItReal Jews and Arabs live in the same city, but do they live in the same house? This talk is about co-housing not co-citying.
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Plebian Hero Here's my response to your 1st point: Therefore this video fails to discuss the VETTING process for building such housing. Should certain people be excluded? Who to include and exclude? To your 2nd point: If co-housing only means sharing communal space but not kitchen, bathroom, or bedroom (after all, these are what make up a house), then we already have numerous public spaces like parks, malls, and streets where people can mingle. Finally, as to Muslim, they stay low when they are the minority in a community but they rarely assimilate and they take over (jihad) when they finally can. Here's a quote from Winston Churchill “Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it."
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Miss Kim, if one day North Korea and South Korea live happily together, I will believe you ;-)
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Plebian Hero As in any community, the key to harmony, let alone happiness, is about rights and responsibilities (i.e. social contract, written or unwritten). If you rely solely on people's free will to move in and out, you won't be able to handle the free-loaders: those who only enjoy the goodies of such co-housing but not the duties. In the end, responsible people are driven out and co-housing becomes a dump. (We've seen a lot of these in public housing.) And if you don't have some sort of screening process (if the word vetting is too sensitive), there will be no private or quasi private community center since everyone can move in.
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gado "people need to grow the f up and not care about religion" LOL... Good luck with that.
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So, Miss Kim, if people in your community care about your vegetarian need and prepare vegetarian food specially for you, as you mentioned, are you willing to dress in burka all the time, even in hot summer, or change your sexual preference because you care about certain people's religious need in your community?
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LOL... Hippies are so last century!!
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TheGamingAlong In between the times they kill each other.
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Plebian Hero You are assuming if someone is rich enough to enter a highly desirable and expensive co-house, they must be good participants. But there's NO correlation between being rich and being responsible. Rich people buy into expensive arrangement so they have better niceties to take advantage of. Then you suggest "policing" (reactive) which is less effective than "vetting" (preventive). By and large, the concept of a market (capitalism) you introduced is contradictive to that of co-housing (socialism).
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Plebian Hero The speaker opposes the isolation of suburban homes but fails to give credit to the comfort, freedom, and independence that come with it. Looking at history, suburban lifestyle became the way it is, fairly recently in the West, naturally and organically because people truly love it. The speaker also admits co-housing is an age-old way of living (we've tried it before and chose otherwise!) and still existent in non-Western society (because they can't afford it.) If she ever visited a poor 3rd-world village where most things are communal, she'll find out these people dream to have their own houses as privacy is luxury.
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KeepItReal You just made my point!! It's already a big problem in Palestine/Israel when they live in the same city, imagine if they live in the same house as the speaker suggested!!
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Simply Sookie If the girls are hot I will ;-)
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Julius Red I dunno... most ISIS fighters are very young and they all want to die for Allah because they believe they'll get 72 virgins.
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Hanna G Economic or political reasons may drive kids to do extreme things. But to die willingly and happily, they have to believe there's something better at the other end.
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Jusuf Agung Muslims co-exist with others peacefully only when Muslims are the ruling class and the others are fully subjugated. As the world is getting more pluralistic, Muslims just don't get along well with others and are falling further behind.
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Jusuf Agung Sigh... I'm tired of arguing with all the Muslims. Just read Quran and Muhammad's life. So violent! And Sharia Law is the only legal system in the 21st century that legalizes beheading. So barbaric!
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Jusuf Agung Stop forcing your women to wear garbage bag. It's very hot in the summer. And stop female genital mutilations (over 80% in countries like Indonesia according to Indonesia government number). It's barbaric. Don't forget, Islam is a religion, not a race. You can quit.
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Jusuf Agung Ooops, sorry, I take it back. You can't quit Islam. You'll get decapitated. LOL. That explains why you defend it to death. Sigh...
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Jusuf Agung Ask your mom about her FGM experience and you'll understand.
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Jusuf Agung Wow you are giving me more details than I need. Using pain killers during FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION doesn't make it any more civilized. Just stop it. Islam is so barbaric!!
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KeepItReal In fact, many Jews in Toronto feel threatened by the large number of refugees that Justin Trudeau let in recently.
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Allahu Akbar!!
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