Comments by "神州 Shenzhou" (@Shenzhou.) on "WION" channel.

  1. +Ranvir Singh CPEC projects create more than 30,000 jobs for Pakistani workers so why is that a bad thing for China to invest in developing Pakistan? Pakistan is India's "brother" created back when British India was first partitioned, so why continue fighting among yourselves? India even support Bangladesh independence from East Pakistan, which is why Pakistan is suspicious of India's intent. CPEC offers a rare opportunity for both your countries to finally mend your relations and contribute to building up Pakistan's economy. China and India are both Pakistan's neighbors, so why do you want to see the country fail? If Pakistan collapse, both China and India will be flooded by refugees.
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  2. Indian government knows that once Bhutan gives up its territorial claims, Indian troops no longer have any reason to be on Chinese territory. Besides, investment in infrastructure will lead to better trade and relations between Bhutan and China.
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  3. Uchiha Madara Back then, India also supported Bangladesh Independence from Eastern Pakistan, much to Pakistan's suspicion, so why are you acting like India has Pakistan's interest in mind? India caused Pakistan to lose its territory of Bangladesh, yet you claim India gave Pakistan land?
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  4. Its true that China has seen outstanding progress this 5 years under president Xi Jinping's leadership. But there are specific age restrictions in place to prevent individuals within the party from accumulating too much power. So eventually President Xi would have to step down someday, but at least some of Xi insights can be preserved in this manner for future generations.
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  5. China wants to make Asia strong through the Belt and Road Initiative, by building infrastructure in developing countries like Pakistan, Kazakhstan, other -stan countries, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Maldives, etc. China has always welcome India to come onboard the BRI to share in the mutual progress and prosperity. But even if New Delhi rejects this offer, Beijing will respect New Delhi's decision.
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  6. Many countries have expressed support for China's Belt and Road Initiative, so you expect China to somehow cater to every country's demand out there? Even if China built CPEC along border of Kashmir, Indian government still make noise whenever China builds road along India's borders. So how is Asia going to progress if China is not even allowed to built roads at all?
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  7. Mohit Khanna If Bhutanese government wants to claim that territory, then where is its proof of ownership? Bhutan doesn't even maintain diplomatic relations with any UNSC members, meaning it does not have foreign relations with USA, UK, France and Russia as well, not just China alone. Even North Korea has more foreign relations than Bhutan in this aspect. Just look at maps of foreign relations for N. Korea and for Bhutan to see my meaning. What then, makes Bhutan's territorial claims more valid, then China's then? Our government already produced maps including the treaty of 1890, but Bhutanese government, as far as I know, has not produced any substantial evidence. Normally, sending military troops into other country's territory is grounds for an act of war. The Chinese government actually being rather lenient by making multiple repeated requests for Indian government troops to withdraw from our territory. The Modi regime is already forced to give up its "swagger" and to look for a face-saving way to withdraw. The usual blusters of India’s present Army Chief have disappeared in the last few weeks. Even some Indian analysts are admitting that Narendra Modi’s foreign policy is disastrous.
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  8. Aniruddh Joshi China doesn't claim all of Arunachal Predesh, only Tawang. The government has offered to cede Aksai Chin to Indian government, in exchange for Tawang region of Arunachal Predesh. Indian government however, has rejected the offer and is yet to offer counterproposal of its own. http://economictimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/china-ready-to-cede-land-for-part-of-arunachal-pradesh/articleshow/57440754.cms The government is already being lenient by tolerating Indian troops presence in Chinese territory for more than 2 months already. All this is doing is delaying construction efforts because of Indian government's attempts to hinder Chinese progress.
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  9. +Adityaa Chaubey Who is being unreasonable here? You are the one keep insulting me and calling derogatory terms, just because my beliefs are different from yours. Chinese government have produced solid evidence and you discredit it immediately, but Bhutanese government produce no evidence, and you expect me to believe it? You are the one being biased and mocking me ceaselessly, when you have produced no evidence of your own. Chinese government even notified Indian government in advance prior to our activities in Donglong, sending two notifications, but Indian government did not respond. Indian government only responded by sending Indian troops into Chinese territory in order to obstruct construction. Source: ( thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/india-notified-of-road-work-china/article19447848.ece )
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  10. Mohit Khanna The government is actively taking steps avoid war, yet you people are actually eager for war to break out in Donglong, over territory that India doesn't even claim for itself? China has naval bases in Djibouti for our submarines. Our navy has has 68 submarines with mixture nuclear and conventional power ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Navy_Submarine_Force ) whereas Indian navy only has 15 submarines ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Navy ) Furthermore, China big trading partners with USA and Europe, so these countries may not take kindly to Indian blockade Chinese goods. War will not help either of our countries in any way, except to hinder Asia's progress. Soon the BRICS summit will be held, and our countries should take the time resolve this issue peacefully. We should be cooperating to resist Western influences, not fighting amongst ourselves.
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  11. Aniruddh Joshi PLA troops may have inadvertently crossed LOC a number of times, just like Indian army. But ultimately, we withdraw our troops in the end to prevent outbreak of conflict. In Ladkah, it is unknown which side started the stone pelting, but there are reports of stones thrown from both sides. Ladakh incident is in response to Indian troops entering our territory for months, isn't it? As far as I know, Indian government made no such requests for project withdrawal from Kashmir. But Chinese government has made multiple repeated requests for Indian government withdrawal of troops from our territory, before proceeding to negotiations.
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  12. +Adityaa Chaubey Even if you dismiss it from being Chinese website, the end of article also says "The U.S. has not taken a side so far. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauertsaid on July 18 that the U.S. is concerned about the ongoing situation there, saying both sides should work together to try to come up with some better sort of arrangement for peace." This means USA is at most, neutral to the conflict. As for Hiramatsu's statement, it could be ambiguous, because it is talking about unilaterally change status quo by force and could also perhaps refer to Indian troops entering Chinese territory by force. Where exactly does Japan say it does not recognise Doklam as Chinese territory? If you agree with that guy only on one specific section, then did you quote his entire comment? including the "Chinese are inferior race, and China is a disease which needs to be treated." It's obvious that you insult and mock Chinese people constantly, just because our views differ from yours. Pakistan is nuclear-capable state, unlike Afghanistan, Israel, etc. so it's unlikely that they will attack a nuclear state when Kashmir mainly concerns India and Pakistan. They will most likely remain neutral. Russia is neutral to both of us, but India also hold military drills with USA and Japan. If India grows too close to USA, then Russia will grow further from India. USA fighter jets and missiles are going to cost a bomb for India and possibly hurt its economy. China manufactures our own weapons locally, so it is cheaper for long term war, unlike India which has to purchase its weapons subjected to market prices. India cannot officially export Brahmos to Vietnam without Russia approval, since it is joint project between both countries. On 5 August 2017, Indian External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Raveesh Kumar said Vietnam’s Foreign Ministry has already rejected the reports of India sales of Brahmos to Vietnam.
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  13. +Adityaa Chaubey Your first link is not working for me. It says " The web service to this account has been limited temporarily! " According to your Forbes Article on India's GDP, "We must, of course, take such macroeconomic predictions with the necessary pinch of salt" so no one knows how its going to play out. Furthermore, it assumes that there is peace and stability in India and no war with China, in order to make that prediction. Trump is only expected to sell the drones to India, and according to the article, India made its participation “contingent on receiving billions and billions and billions of dollars in foreign aid.” India has been identified as being the top recipient of US economic aid according (timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/India-top-recipient-of-US-economic-aid/articleshow/48093123.cms ) Regarding Brahmos, you are only using words like "likely" meaning that the sales is unconfirmed and both spokepersons have addressed the issue in this article (idrw.org/brahmos-not-sold-to-vietnam-india/ ) According to above article "Raveesh Kumar official spokesperson of the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) in India has clarified that India has not supplied supersonic Brahmos Cruise missiles to Vietnam and spokesperson for Vietnam’s External Affairs also has clarified he had not confirmed the sale and just talked about defence and strategic relations with India and was misquoted by Vietnamese media." Israel only widely believed to possess nuclear weapons according to the Wikipedia. If whole world sure of Israel possessing WMD, then why isn't Israel labelled as one? Lastly, I did not threaten to ask North Korea to launch nuclear attack on Japan. I only said Chinese cooperation is essential to containing the North Korean missile threat. What has that post got to do with this post? Why are you putting words in my mouth? You are the one claiming "Chinese people are inferior, and that China is disease which needs to be cured" so why all you do is mock China, our people, our government and so on? Chinese people are among worlds most diligent and intelligent people, as recognized by most of world's other races. Our government is not perfect, but it has done much to lift China out of poverty and turn our country into economy juggernaut. Even now, the government is defending our sovereignty claims, backed by historical evidence, while Indian troops are trespassing into territory that India doesn't even claim as its own. If war breaks out in Donglong, which I hope it doesn't, Indian troops will be labelled as invaders, while PLA troops will be defending our lands.
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  14. +Adityaa Chaubey Bhutan is does not even maintain any diplomatic relations with any of the UNSC members like Russia, USA, UK, France and China, yet it somehow wants India and Japan to be part of UNSC? Doesn't that mean that its being a puppet of India then? What makes you think the UNSC members will accept Bhutan's decision, when it doesn't even have an embassy in any of our countries? Bhutan narrowly avoided being dragged into a unwanted war with China and India, over Doklam/Donglong, so why would Bhutan want to consult India for help again? China did not mention anything about withdrawal of Bhutan troops (because there were no Bhutan troops present at Doklam) but the government requested withdrawal of Indian troops from Doklam. So isn't apparent that India is the one trying drag Bhutan into unwanted war with China? Bhutanese troops weren't even present in Donglong during the standoff
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  15. +Aniruddh Joshi What makes you claim that "the whole world" saw it according to India's viewpoint at all? According to nytimes.com/2017/07/26/world/asia/dolam-plateau-china-india-bhutan.html Bhutan has felt uncomfortable from the start and does not want to be caught in the middle when China and India are taking potshots at each other. Bhutan does not want to be the bone in a fight between two dogs. You really think Bhutan will be completely unaffected if such a war between India and China erupted, over a mere border dispute, which doesn't even concern India at all? India is the one potentially starting a war, but invading territory that it does not claim for its own and obstructing PLA road construction here. If war had broken out, Indian troops will be the invaders on foreign soil, whereas PLA troops will be fighting to defend our territory from the invaders.
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  16. +Adityaa Chaubey In 1960, Zhou Enlai proposed that India drop its claim to Aksai Chin and China would withdraw its claims from NEFA. That way, both our countries will have sovereignty over territory already controlled by our countries. But Nehru rejected this proposal and refused to negotiate further. Zhou Enlai visited New Delhi 4 times, whereas Nehru only visited Beijing once, so who is more sincere in settling our border disputes here? Nehru pursued an aggressive "Forward" policy of building military outposts at our disputed border. There were eventually 60 such outposts, including 43 north of the McMahon Line, so which country is the one provoking the other one here? Zhou Enlai even proposed a 20 KM demilitarized zone, and withdrew Chinese troops, but Nehru continued to occupy territory that PLA troops had vacated. Who doesn't know whose history well here? Why was Nehru building so many military bases at our disputed border, instead of sitting down to settle border negotiations once at for all? You claim China has no solid evidence support claim to Donglong, then what claim does India have for McMahon line? It was signed by British India and Tibet, which India doesn't recognize as a sovereign state, so why is McMahon line legal? According (tibetjustice.org/materials/treaties/treaties12.html ) Great Britain recognized the suzerainty rights of China over Tibet and agreed not to enter into negotiations with Tibet except through the intermediary of the Chinese Government. But the British broke their agreement and bypassed Chinese intermediary to signed McMahon line directly with Tibet, when Britain itself doesn't recognize Tibetan sovereignty. So why is McMahon line still valid when Britain ignored Chinese input completely?
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  17. +Aniruddh Joshi Chinese government has produced maps and historical documents of Doklam, as well as 1890 agreement to support our claims, unlike Bhutan. If India is making advances to reclaim its territory, then it better act fast, before Pakistan solidifies its foothold. Otherwise, Pakistan currently controls it and is currently developing it together with China. We are simply the businessmen there. Our projects are business venture between Pakistan and China, and is primarily to improve Pakistan's economy. As Pakistan is neighbor to both our countries, wouldn't it serve India's interest if Pakistan becomes more developed and stable? You claim India to be civilized nation, yet you send troops into disputed territories to "solve" problems and avoid all diplomatic channels with China? Aren't you the one being hypocritical here about India's actions?
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  18. +nitz vision I never said that. Why do you only think stupid and weak countries join Belt and Road Initiative? Many other countries have expressed support for OBOR, such as UK and European countries, as well as ASEAN countries like Singapore. China offers loans out of Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in order to help out poorer countries with insufficient capital. They can always repay those loans once their economies begin to take off.
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  19. +Global Thinker What is with your weird house and doorstep analogy? China builds roads within our doorstep, not mines and tanks. And it is Indian's troops that are currently stationed in Chinese territory and doorstep, so why can't the government request India withdraw its forces from our territory? India currently does not claim Doklam/Donglong, so how is that considered India's doorstep? Why are you mocking me about sky is green? I provided evidence and links support my claim, but you provide only story about houses and neighbors to this discussion. +Alex Johnson I have stated twice (now thrice) previously, that China does not claim Bhutan as part of China. Why don't you read my posts before posting redundant arguments? President Xi Jinping and President Durterte of Phillipines are settling our disputes peacefully through diplomatic means, so isn't that much better than war of any sort? +ANUPAM RASTOGI It is bilateral issue between Bhutan and China, but is only made more complicated by Indian troops intervention. Why don't India withdraw its troops from Chinese territory first, and observe as neutral party, without taking sides in this bilateral issue? PLA troops may have erroneously entered Indian territory, but they withdrew in the end. Why don't Indian troops in China do the same as well, so we can maintain peace in the region? +Sam D All you do is insult me. When did I insulted you at all? If you have nothing to contribute, then why post at all? You have not even attempt understand Chinese point of view too, and I am explaining it to hopefully prevent war from erupting. +dibyendust Chinese diplomats have engaged with India many times, and even notified India ahead of our activities in the region. One of our requests was for Indians army to withdraw its troops from our territory is all, yet you still claim China has war frenzy? +Aurora Hawk We don't want war, and would prefer peaceful dialogue instead. Better to to talk things out peacefully, instead of resort to violence. It is other people that childishly joke about war and nuclear weapons.
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  20. +Dishant Malhotra I provided reasonable arguments that why I think war between our countries is no joking matter, but these people insult and ridicule me or detract from the issue by bringing up Pakistan and Tibet and so on. India recognizes Pakistan as independent nation (since British India partition) and India also recognizes China's sovereignty over Tibet (since India does not bring up Tibet during United Nations discussions) so why bring these topics up? Some "world platform" this is, when you tube people joke about wars, insult each other, avoid diplomatic channels, tell stories about neighbors and doorsteps and don't provide evidence to back up claims.
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  21. +nn bhardwaj What is purpose of building roads southeast of China? That region already has plenty of roads and railways, so whats the need to connect them further? On the other hand, poorer regions in Western China often lack access to rest of China's prosperity, so why not develop those area instead? Bhutan only claims that territory, but has not yet produced any evidence to support its claim to that Donglong at all. So because Bhutan claim our lands, means we aren't allowed to build roads in our territory? +ANUPAM RASTOGI According to that link, it uses Google Earth to define borders of China, India and Bhutan, but how is Google Earth any more accurate at defining boundaries than Chinese maps? Which country in the world can claim territories using Google Earth as evidence? It is just a program that can be updated by anyone to suit their needs, but who uses it politically in territorial dispute? What is known, is that China occupied Donglong for years, despite Bhutan claiming it. Both our countries have signed agreements in 1988 and 1998 to maintain the status quo. Donglong was under Chinese control before, and now, Donglong remains under Chinese control, so how has the status quo been broken at all? Bhutan never did control Donglong, despite claiming it as part of Bhutan. It should also be noted, that China has explored various diplomatic channels to resolve the issue, but India has so far, shown a non-negotiation attitude. Even in this video, Chinese government strives for peaceful resolution to the issue, but Indian government has not said much. There has been 13 official statements by Chinese government, while Indian government has only 3 official statements, implying a lack of willingness to negotiate. But at least I am glad you appreciate our efforts in other countries. Of course China has an agenda for developing those nations (which country in world doesn't?) but I would like to stress that we are offering infrastructural development to those countries. I am proud of my culture of course, as are many Indian people proud of theirs as well. CPEC issues ultimately boils down to territorial dispute between Pakistan and India. Chinese workers simply are building roads in POK, and China does not claim POK as part of China. When the projects are complete, Chinese workers will vacate the area and leave it to Pakistan (or whoever the real owner is) In my opinion, it would be best if Pakistan and India could mend their issues and settle their differences, so that the whole region can progress smoothly. China only "blocks" India's entry into NSG, possibly because of Pakistan. Like I mentioned above, China and India would possibly face less conflicts, if Pakistan and India were on better terms. Even as UNSC member, we have hardly used veto power and interfered with affairs of other countries. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power#Most_common_users
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  22. +ANUPAM RASTOGI How is constructing road considered disturbing the status quo? Donglong has always been under China's control, so building roads there suddenly changes the status quo and disturbs the peace? Are you implying Indians sending their troops into Chinese territory is not considered disturbing the peace at all? China also wants peace and tranquility in Donglong, which is why there have been repeated requests for Indian soldiers to withdraw from the area. If India have nothing against CPEC, then Chinese workers should be allowed to develop Pakistan according to terms of CPEC. Why going through POK considered unnecessary aggression? Chinese workers are only there temporary to build roads, and they will withdraw once the project is complete. Chinese government using Indian's non-NPT is merely as an excuse, since Pakistan is also non-NPT, yet the government is supporting Pakistan's entry into NSG, but not India's. The reason therefore, has to be because Pakistan is against India's entry. There are few possible ways for India to enter NSG. 1. Pakistan and India mend relations, until Pakistan gives China the green light to approve India's entry to NSG. 2. India waits until China completes CPEC and therefore doesn't depend too much on Pakistan anymore, and allow India's entry into NSG. 3. India, somehow, shows that it a much more valuable ally to China, than Pakistan. Then Chinese government could possibly approve of India's entry into NSG. This may sound cold and political, but that is how the government works. There is no place for kindness in field of international politics. China has been ever suspicious of India ever since PM Nehru granted asylum to 14th Dalai Lama after he fled from Tibet, which could have drove the government to Pakistan. +Sam D China does not run charity, which is why the government expects to recover the initial investment and to profit from additional interest. Which bank in world, doesn't make money from charging interest for its loans? Sri Lanka and other poor countries probably tried getting loans from IMF or World Bank, but either the loans aren't approved, or the loan amount is insufficient for proper economic development. China is taking a huge risk here, investing in these poorer countries with unstable government countries for long term. So of course, Chinese banks have to cover the risk involved to make the investment worthwhile. How do you know if Sri Lanka would not be able to pay off its loans in future? Once the Maritime Silk Road is complete, it is expected that more ships will call upon Sri Lankan Harbor, and its economy will improve. What is the purpose of these developments at all, if not to improve the country's economy? It may take 20 years or more to pay off the loan, but it will eventually be paid, and the port and infrastructure will belong to their owners. If you want successful examples, then it would be China's investments in Africa. China has built many new roads, railways, schools, hospitals, shopping centers and telecommunication projects. In Algeria, there is 1,000 km freeway built by Chinese workers. In Angola there is Benguela Railway, and in Djibouti there is newly completed railway to replace the old one.
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  23. +Ashish Bagade It was Indian's troops that entered Chinese territory, yet you want PLA get out when Indian government constantly ignore Chinese government requests to withdraw? +dibyendust This thread started by me, so what's wrong with me commenting here? 1. The video itself already reports Chinese government's adherence to peaceful resolution of the situation. At the 0.17 mark, it says "China urged India to immediately pull back the trespassing troops to Indian side of the boundary and call upon them to swiftly address the situation in a proper manner to restore peace and tranquility in border region" If the Indian MEA and spokesperson and Foreign minister made it very clear that it is bilateral issue, then why are Indian troops inteferring with Bhutan-China issue at all? 2. What has China's support of Pakistan and CPEC got to do with Bhutan-China-India issue? If India is so against CPEC roads in POK, then why don't India send its troops over to POK and obstruct road construction there, like what it is doing here in Donglong? 3. How is this a ploy? China is issuing official statements to reduce tensions, but Indian troops are present in Chinese territory. Are you people really so eager for war and for Indian Army and PLA troops to die over this dispute? 4. I have never claimed that every Chinese investment is going to be completely successful. Chinese investments has had some successes and some failures, but the fact remains that Sri Lanka now has a port in its city. Whether the port change ownership, the port is still physically located in Sri Lanka, so how is it a bad thing for Sri Lankan economy? 5. China imports manpower, machinery and cement to Pakistan because Pakistan is unable to produce enough engineers for itself. Pakistan plans to train more engineers to slowly take over CPEC Chinese engineers in future, and is also planning to double its cement production to meet the demands of CPEC. According to your source, Chinese companies are only "renting the land" to develop it by building hydroelectric powerplants there. What has Japan and South China Sea got to do with this issue now? Japan does not claim any of the South China Sea Islands, so what is your point here? The tension was generated when Indian troops entered Chinese territory, so how do you expect tensions to simmer down when it due to presence of Indian troops? The government has made repeated requests for Indian troops to withdraw to promote stability in that region. India has also taken in 14th Dalai Lama, which killed many Chinese during the 1959 uprising. How is the deaths of Indians justified here, but not the deaths of Chinese? +Sam D If you say China controlled by Pakistan, then isn't India controlled by Bhutan by sending its troops into Chinese territory? So World Bank disapprove loans to Pakistan, means Pakistan should forever remain poor and undeveloped? Pakistan has terrorists because its economy is poor and the terrorist ranks are swelling with people unhappy in life. China's approach to terrorism is to build up Pakistan's economy, so that more people find work, instead of joining the terrorists. So after 99 years, the port will still return to Sri Lanka, once the debt is paid off, isn't it? Why are you people so short sighted and only concerned with immediate gains? +ANUPAM RASTOGI Phillipines did not went to ICJ, they went to Permanent Court of Arbitration, which is not an agency of United Nations, so why should China heed the court's decisions? I have so many questions to answer, so who are you to demand answers out of me for simple things you could have researched yourself? Chinese troops still withdrew from Indian territory in the end, but Indian troops haven't withdrew from Chinese territory. If you grant refuge to 14th DL, then you can't expect Chinese government forgive you for that. If India forever provide refuge, the you are bound to antagonize someone along the way. Why don't India provide asylum to US fugitive Edward Snowden who was whistleblower of CIA then, and see if USA doesn't become hostile to you? China was granted permanent membership at UNSC during its creation, and nothing except amendment to UN charter, could ever kick a UNSC permanent off its position. China also one of world's cradle of civilization, with history spanning 5000 years and considered to be one of world's continuous countries still alive today, whereas other civilizations like Rome and Egypt have faded to history. Chinese people also do not want war with India, and the best way to avoid war, is for Indian troops to withdraw from Chinese territory since this is bilateral issue between Bhutan and China. India can always participate as neutral observer, without actively supporting any side in this dispute.
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  24. +Connie F Who on earth uses Google Map as evidence to determine territorial boundaries? You think sovereign territories can be decided by a computer program so easily? Our government has produced maps and treaties supporting our claim, so where is Bhutan evidence to prove that Donglong belongs to them? Using Google Maps? Chinese military installations are there to protect road construction in these regions from terrorists attacks and possible sabotage. The government spends lots of money developing the region and building roads, so of course, PLA troops are assigned to protect our assets in the region. Who knows what India's intentions are regarding Tibet. India appears to outwardly support Chinese sovereignty over Tibet, but when 14th Dalai Lama fled to India after failed uprising in 1959, PM Nehru granted asylum to 14th DL, which makes China suspicious towards Indian intentions. Recently, India also "dangled" 14th DL just out of China's reach in Arunachal Pradesh, as if taunting China, so this makes Chinese even more suspicious India's intents regarding Tibet.
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  25. Pradeep What has genetics of Chinese race got to do with this at all? I don't insult these people, but it is they that attack me personally, instead of my points. I use citations and reasoning to support my points but these people (Indians I assume) mock me and hurl insults. I deal with logic, while these people deal with emotion. If what you say is true, then I could also say that the testosterone in Indians are making them aggressive and violent, instead of logical. Just look at frequency of riots in India for example in this source: Wikipedia: List of riots in India
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  26. ANUPAM RASTOGI Indeed, India is extremely diverse culture, and there are various sub-culture within each culture. Indians speak variety of dialects, over 1600 like you said, but somehow entire country manages communicate points across. China too is similar to that regard, in that we has many different dialects like Cantonese, Min, Teochew, etc, of which Mandarin is only one dialect. Although mutually unintelligible, they all share the same written form of Chinese characters. As two of worlds most populous countries, both India and China have problems relating to population, such feeding our people as well as being overwhelmed by our population. With such large student population, there is fierce competition for top schools and higher education institutions. There is fierce competition for jobs with such large workforce as well as other social issues like housing and so on. Both India and China should work to tackle issues common to both our countries, instead of going to war over territorial issues.
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  27. +Ashish Bagade China is building roads in Donglong in order to provide a second road that allows Indian pilgrims to reach Kailash Mansarovar, and also possibly, Lhasa in Tibet. This road that we are building is expected to connect to Yadong country and even Lhasa. The normal way is extremely congested and uncomfortable, so building a second road will relieve congestion and make pilgrimage possibly less dangerous. These is no way that the roads are being built for express purpose of war. War in Asia will only hurt our growing economies, and India's and China's economies will lose all our progress if such a conflict were to break out in Asia.
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  28. China only halted Indian pilgrims from reaching Lhasa recently because of security concerns of Indian troops invading Chinese territory and obstructing road construction in Donglong. I have never thought Indians dumb or implied that they are not as smart, so why are you putting words in my mouth? You people mock and ridicule me ceaselessly, yet believe I hold the same ill will to you? I have stated very clearly that Chinese people don't want war, and explained and quoted much physical evidence supporting China's claim over Donglong, but you people constantly dismiss my points, without proof of your own. Where is evidence showing Bhutan's claim over Donglong at all? Donglong is difficult terrain, so the roads there snake through the landscape to adapt to terrain. How can you claim that the road is heading towards Bhutan at its current position? Mountainous route will bend according to terrain so until the road is completed can its destination be known. I don't understand this derisive attitude of you people. China doesn't want war, since it will destroy our all the progress we made over the years, so why do you constantly claim China going to war. Why Indian government deliberately send troops into Chinese territory and obstruct road construction, claiming it as a path to war? Are you people really looking forward to a real war happening between our countries?
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  29. Indian government been building roads along our borders for many years already, and even has organization called Border Roads Organization (BRO) specializing in this, so why can't Chinese government built roads within our own territory? (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/govt-gives-more-powers-to-bro-for-roads-along-china-border/articleshow/60147975.cms )
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  30. Indian media seemingly uses the word "Disengagement" to make it sound less humiliating. Chinese media boldly uses the word "Withdrawal".
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  31. The issue is actually between North Korea, South Korea, and USA, not China. At the most, Beijing can only act as mediator to this dispute, and arrange for dialogue between both Koreas and USA. If Trump wants to claim credit for China's efforts, then why didn't Kim just approach Washington directly, instead of coming to Beijing?
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  32. Rohi Maity Why don't you explain Nehru's actions then? Zhou Enlai visited New Delhi 4 times, whereas PM Nehru only visited Beijing once. Zhou also proposed that India drop its claim to Aksai Chin and China would withdraw its claims from Tawang (so that occupied territories will become part of each countries territory) but Nehru rejected this proposal. You claim India has weakest army at that time, then why did Nehru aggressively build military bases at our disputed border, as part of his Forward Policy?
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  33. So why can't China have overseas bases as well, since India has so many overseas bases?
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  34. +yash7106 yeah, but why India feels encircled by "string of pearls" when China only has one base in Djibouti, Africa, that's all?
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  35. +yash7106 But according to your source, String of Pearls is just "theory" that's all, and could be just be imagined threat. If you look at List of Countries with Overseas Bases, China only has one base (currently) located in Djibouti that's all, as compared to India's 6 overseas bases. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_overseas_military_bases
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  36. +Vishal Kumar CPEC project in Pakistan make use Chinese engineers and materials, because Pakistan does not have sufficient engineers and cement. Pakistan already planning double cement production to meet CPEC demands, and training more engineers to handle CPEC. Majority of CPEC jobs also go to Pakistan people according to (tribune.com.pk/story/1429131/cpec-provides-jobs-30000-pakistanis/ )
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  37. +Desham Pravesh I don't see how China will become a hostage of Pakistan because of CPEC. For India admission into NSG, you need unanimous support of all 48 member nations of NSG, and about 9 other countries also oppose India's admission. USA's approach to dealing with terrorism is invade country, and in process kill many innocent people, making the locals angry and join the terrorists in revenge. For example, the rise of ISIS is credited to USA's constant interventions in Middle East Wars. For US, its only short-term solution, until another terrorist cell pops up to replace the one destroyed. China's approach different from USA. People join terrorists because they are poor, jobless, unhappy and angry with USA, own government etc. So China tries develop Pakistan economies, so that more people find work, and the terrorists will have ever shrinking pool of recruits willing to join them. This is long term solution that aims to solve/reduce problem of terrorists by improving the country's economic and thus, improving stability in the region.
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  38. +Desham Pravesh If you think US navy does not control the sea lanes, then why have there been up to 4 reports of US destroyers colliding with civilian vessels in this year alone, such as the USS Fitzgerald, USS John McCain, etc. It's obvious that US Navy is stepping up its patrol routes, probably with inexperienced sailors which led to collisions. This type of collision is serious, and can possibly create scandal or even war, if say, a US destroyer collides with Chinese warship. The Hambantota port in Srilanka is for economic trade, even the Sri Lanka government does not allow Chinese military vessels to dock there, so why is it considered a military base? Besides roads, ports and railas, CPEC also invests in energy for Pakistan, including the building of various powerplants to fuel Pakistan's growth. And in South Africa, China built various roads, railways, schools, hospitals, hotels, stadiums, shopping centers and telecommunication projects. Lastly, the LEMOA agreement between India and USA, will not only affect China, but possibly Russia as well. Russia is against US attempts to encroach on its territory, which forms basis of China-Russia relations, and by growing closer to USA, India could potentially grow further from Russia. Soon the BRICS summit will held in China, and our countries should be cooperating to resist Western influence in our countries, not fighting over territorial disputes and growing closer to the West.
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  39. +Desham Pravesh According to this source (therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/lets-sea-the-10-biggest-navies-in-the-world/ ) India actually has the 7th largest navy in the world. The world's largest is US Navy, followed by Russian Navy, PLA Navy (China), Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, Royal Navy (UK), French Navy and finally, Indian Navy.
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  40. +Desham Pravesh According to (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Navy ) under Operational fleet as of August 2017 Indian Navy has 1 aircraft carrier, 11 destroyers, 14 frigates, and 15 submarines. Japanese Self-defense Maritime force has 4 helicopter carriers, 26 destroyers, 10 frigates, 19 submarines. So how is India really considered 4th largest navy in the world? It should be USA, Russia, China, Japan and then India in terms of navy strength. Like jim kuan said, If India has the "naval strength" you claimed, then where is the exercise of control? If Indian naval power was so capable, then why isn't its presence being felt more keenly?
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  41. +Desham Pravesh That link you keep sending me, only represents the Future of the Indian Navy, not the present. The Wiki I used is dated to Indian Navy's Operational fleet as of August 2017 so why do you keep insisting that it is outdated? Its as close to the present as it can get. The INS Vikrant is under construction in your wiki, and the submarines are still being planned or under construction as well.
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  42. +Desham Pravesh Its not even 2018 yet, so why are you constantly posting possibilities in the future. Even the your wiki "Future of the Indian Navy" clears indicates that these vessels are only being planned and have not been fully incorporated into Indian Navy. There could be various reasons it not being reflected in "Indian Navy's Operational fleet as of August 2017" There could be delays, bribery of officials, and unforeseen circumstances and so on. The Scorpene class submarines are undergoing trials, but that doesn't mean that it is operationally ready. That's why it has been listed as "Future" not "Present" so why are you relying on data that only potentially represents Indian Navy in the future, and not the present Indian Navy data?
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  43. +Uchiha Madara You clearly said: "神州 Shenzhou P R O P A G A N D A you're telling the half truth" So all I asked is which part is untrue that's all.
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  44. +Ranvir Singh Regarding Chinese "ghost cities", China still has millions of people in countryside, and every year about 100,000 people from rural areas shift into urban areas to fill up these apartments in cities. But of course, this is not immediately and such cities will take time to fill up completely. One example is Zhengzhou in Henan province, China's largest ghost city in 2011, but today has population of 9,378,000 inhabitants. Source: Zhengzhou Ghost City Alive! newgeography.com/content/002159-zhengzhou-ghost-city-alive Source: 5 Chinese Ghost Cities that Came Alive vagabondjourney.com/5-chinese-ghost-cities-came-alive/
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  45. +Bolly Movies Effort what?
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  46. Bolly Movies The government has incentives to entice people to shift into and fill up the apartments.
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  47. -India is not a claimant to South China Sea Issue so what's it got to do with India? -Does India want hand over the Dalai Lama to Chinese custody? This issue is China's own internal issue with Tibet, and nothing to do with India after all. -CPEC is bilateral affair between Pakistan and China, and Pakistan is its own sovereign country as recognized by India. Take up it with Pakistan if you have any issues with it. -As for occupied territories, China is willing to enter negotiations and even to make concessions in Aksai China, if India cedes Tawang to China. Contrary to what you may think, China does not claim all of Arunachal Pradesh, only the Tawang province as part of South Tibet. Source:China ready to make concessions in Aksai Chin if India cedes part of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh? zeenews.india.com/india/china-ready-to-make-concessions-in-aksai-chin-if-india-cedes-part-of-tawang-in-arunachal-pradesh_1982943.html
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  48. Nagalakshmi Saladi If India can claim territory because of historical basis, then why can't China claim territory because of historical basis as well? Why the unfair double standards here?
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  49. Nagalakshmi Saladi If you claim Mount Kailash in Tibet is Indian territory, then how exactly did India come to acquire this territory? Through forceful occupation and annexing it? Tibet was part of China since 800 years ago, when Mongolians conquered both Tibet and Song dynasty China, making them part of Yuan dynasty China.
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  50. Why can't I ask you more questions? Because Mount Kailash is the name of Hindu God, automatically means Tibet is part of India? What logic is this? Tibet was conquered by Mongolians and Manchus, and incorporated into China since 800 years ago, so what makes you think Tibet is independent state? Even Indian PM Nehru recognize Tibet as an autonomous region of China, yet you claim Tibet is part of India? Prior to 1962 war, Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai wanted to negotiate our border dispute with India, so he visited New Delhi and proposed the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence 和平共处五项原则 to define China-India relations. But PM Nehru wasn't interested in negotiation, instead he pursued an aggressive "Forward" policy of building military bases at our dispute borders. some bases even protruding beyond the international line and into actual Chinese territory.
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