Comments by "oolong2" (@oolong2) on "Thom Hartmann Program" channel.

  1. LOL "Jesus ran a small business". HAHAHAHAHA   Yeah Christianity was actually spread through the multinational corporation Jesus Inc. which cornered the carpentry market....     These guys crack me up.  They can always pull a libertarian argument through the eye of a needle.
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  2. He was probably the first to basically make his son in law and daughter unelected co-presidents.
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  3. Funny how God want's him to be rich and not pay taxes...
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  4. Society didn't decline because of sex, drugs, homosexuality, atheism, etc. It declined when we decided that money represented status, security, subsistence, and power in society. That change meant that money is more important than our relationships to each other and our relationship to the planet. -TZM
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  5. So glad to have gotten to know Bernie Sanders over the years thanks to Thom's show :)
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  6. What a hilarious interview... A true testament to willful ignorance. No wonder there is a downward trend on belief in this bullshit when you have people who decide to ignore the evolution of ideas and spirituality in favor of useless dogma. Jesus, Buddha, etc., represented an evolution of thought. However these guys would rather waste their lives worshipping a sky god and condemning others instead of discovering this truth within themselves.
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  7. Libertarians are like teenagers lashing out against their parents rules because they have no idea how good they have it. They use completely vague emotional terms like "freedom" and "liberty" because it feels good to say them, but as soon as you talk details that's when they start begging for rules, regulations, and government courts. There is a reason why "free market" is nothing more than a myth.  If the world was as simplistic and easy as their asinine "free exchange" examples.  Then millions of smart people that came before you would have figured the shit out a long time ago.   These guys need to understand the problems with capitalism (alienation, externalities, etc.) before spouting their simplistic nonsense.
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  8. When are you going to stop beating around the bush and wake up to what Hillary really is?
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  9. In other words the he wants to believe libertarianism is "Christian" so he chooses to ignore the parts of the bible which disagrees with his philosophy. Half the republican rhetoric is around the idea that the US is a "Christian nation".  Somehow it's ok to use this to justify abortion laws (not mentioned in the bible at all) yet is conveniently ignored when it comes to wealth and poverty (which is mentioned over and over).
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  10. Another racist idiot unable to answer a simple question about when he was personally oppressed on some way because he was white... Sorry but an actor saying something stupid on a show and somehow "hurting your feelings" doesn't hold a candle to the bias and imprisonment faced by minorities every day. The guy did not bring up a single logical argument in his racist diatribe.
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  11. Crazy how visibly shaken the officer is because he knows he fucked up....
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  12. It's pretty amazing to me that there are people who actually think that a country having periodic armed insurrections is a desirable form of government... There are countries all over Africa, middle east, South America, etc. that have had armed coups and insurrections, do you think they are better off because of it?
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  13. You had PLENTY of chances to speak. It's because your points were incoherent and nonsensical. Your "examples" of libertarian societies are only examples that ignore the clear cases of either government or communal efforts in those societies. Guess what? Our society and economy today is a million times more complex than it was in 3500BC or even 1800. You people are like teenagers who simply take for granted the roof over their head without having any clue what it took to get it. Then you scream "I don't want any rules!" Humans have by and large ALWAYS lived in tribes and those tribes had structure, rules, and communal efforts that benefited everyone. In fact those societies that you claim are libertarian had far less "freedom" than we do today. The reason you only mention "ancient" societies is because we know little about how they function, so you're able to project onto them your Utopian fantasy that never really existed. However our modern concepts do not apply at all to these ancient societies governed by family, religion, customs, superstitions, etc. Governments are simply extensions and a more complex form of the same tribal, clan, and family concepts that humans have had for thousands of years. It is practically built into our DNA. The only reason humans have language, bonds, and tribalism is to reinforce these societal constructs. That have been the very key to our survival. However the latest incarnation of that tribal union that we call "government" is currently corrupted by private systems and money. We have no check on the power of money, the accumulation of property, or the major influence it has on our governing systems. Throwing what little government checks we have away and insuring that the wealthy have more power and influence is not somehow the answer to our problems.
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  14. "I am not a Republican".... "You say the Republican party is full of racists".... "I am not a racist!" Way to out yourself as a total liar 😂
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  15. Here's the funny part.... Beanie sanders has had a political career since 1980. Hillary has had one since 2000. Yet somehow she's the more electable one and knows how governing works.
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  16. Yes the caller is confused, and religion made him that way.
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  17. Wow.... How easily people lean towards authoritarianism, xenophobia, and extreme nationalism when presented with a minor threat (or the idea of a threat). They fall right in line with what they perceive as a strong leader and start talking about banning an ethnic group and concentration camps... The parallels here to Nazi Germany are scary as hell.
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  18. The caller claiimed he had an economics degree from an "ivy league school" yet his arguments were just as stupid as you would find in youtube comments.
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  19. Completely disagree....   All my life I've never smoked, did drugs, or drank alcohol really,  never even been drunk...  However a few months ago I decided to try some edibles while I was in Colorado.  First of all since it was my first time I made sure I went to a highly rated place.  Being cautious is something most people do when trying ANYTHING for the first time.   Secondly my experience at this particular place is that they hand you a menu telling you exactly about the types of Marijuana and their effects, each type of edible, the THC content and the recommended dosages (for an average adult) for each as well as what you should do if it is your first time having an edible...   Not only that but you have the time to ask questions from very knowledgeable people before making up your mind. Furthermore if that wasn't enough there is recommended dosages and serving sizes on the packaging itself.... So the idea that someone is going to grab an edible and not know what they are getting is nonsense.  You feel far more informed and in control getting an edible from a legal place where exact dosages, THC content, etc. is spelled out in exact milligrams, than if one of your friends decided to bake a batch of brownies with some stuff he bought off the street one day. If you're going to ban edibles then you might as well ban liqueur, cocktails, and other sugary drinks.  If people can't figure out how much to consume based on all the information laid out for them then they probably shouldn't be trying it in the first place...
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  20.  @davidlafleche1142  The only people left still following Trump are the cultists, crazies, and the fanatics.
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  21. It amazes me that these people never ask WHY there are single mothers or why there is poverty in these areas.... They pretend they found some magic answer with fatherlessness, yet don't realize that there is no causation in that meaninglessness correlation.
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  22. What's he doing? Maybe he's telling all of you Hillary supporters to wake the hell up.
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  23. We could all voluntarily pay taxes, voluntarily drive under the speed limit, voluntarily show id when we fly, we could all voluntarily put out fires, and stop at intersections. There is a reason why laws and regulations exist. This guy thinks he's being profound, but he's only being profoundly stupid.
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  24. The caller is completely misguided.... For some reason he doesn't get that it DOES NOT MATTER who you elect, the right wing will find something to smear them with. What you need is someone who is willing to FIGHT because the right wing doesn't respond to weakness and compromise, they respond to strength. The best way to fight is with policies that the American people are behind and have proven to work. The strategy of triangulation doesn't work anymore. This isn't the 1990's...
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  25. LOL... I love how "conservatives" don't realize that WWII was the biggest government spending in our history.
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  26. The problem is people like him swallowing the bullshit from conservative media that brainwashes people into believing rich people should be worshipped simply because they have money. Guess what? That "monopoly money" you own is nothing more than a social contract. It only has value because it is backed by the US government that we all support. Having money and being able to invest it doesn't somehow make you "better" than a bus driver. That elitist mentality really makes me sick....
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  27. Intelligent yet you haven't mentioned a single policy that Hillary supports that helps minorities more so than Bernie. You mentioned Sanders standing up for African Americans during the Civil rights movements, but what about ALL THE TIMES he stood against legislation that was hurtful to minorities that Clinton supported? What about ALL THE TIMES he stood up for minorities when it came to Ferguson, police brutality, stop and frisk, prison reform, marijuana legalization, etc.. He's been there every step of the way. Sorry, but as an African American in Georgia, I find your response completely retarded....
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  28. Trump went full Palin by the last half of the debate. He was incomprehensible and unhinged.
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  29. Intelligent Design = I can't understand science and nature so therefore God must have done it.
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  30. The fact is there are a "libertarian paradises" all over the world in the form of third world countries...  There is reason for that.  What libertarians really want are all the protections and prosperity they've inherited from having stable and functioning government for the past two centuries but without having to pay or contribute to it. 
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  31. PolakFury It's rather ironic and apropos that the first reply to my comment is someone demonstrating the same ugly generalizations I was referring to.  The sad part is that you're so used to Trolling that you didn't even realize that you were making yourself the "prime example"...   
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  32. So it's crazy to say that the conservatives of the past who advocated slavery and racism have anything to do with today's conservatives, but yet it's perfectly okay to conflate Marxism and democratic socialism.
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  33. ALL US Citizens should have the right to vote regardless of whether they are in jail or recently out of jail...  Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr, etc. all spent time in jail.  The idea that just because you broke one law that it makes all of your opinions suddenly invalid is ridiculous. There is a fundamental problem with a State being able take away democracy...
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  34. Here's his argument: "Waaaahhh...... I pay taxes and I don't wanna!"
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  35. Meanwhile cases have been spiking in Oklahoma over the past few weeks...
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  36. Authoritarianism is spreading all around. More so on the right, but also on the left.
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  37. I cant believe so many people fell for this charlatan over the years....   All his scams over the price of gold, "predicting the housing bubble", etc. Peter makes a living off conning people into believing that he knows what he's talking about.
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  38. The thing that the caller (and Libertarians in general) don't realize is that you don't need to talk about the minimum wage in terms of hypotheticals....  We already have real world data showing exactly what the impact of raising the minimum wage is.  It's not like we're establishing a minimum wage for the very first time...  If the caller was even remotely correct we would see more people going into  unemployment.  However the research shows absolutely no relationship there.
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  39. What a piece of shit.   Using religion to justify violence and torture through propaganda is no different than ISIS or Nazis.
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  40. Thom.... You forgot about the Iraq sanctions that they claimed was responsible for the deaths of thousands of children as well as the US support of Israel against the Palestinians. These were given as the major reasons for the attack on 911.
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  41. It's easy to say that today, but the economy was much different back then than it was now. I think letting the south succeed and letting millions of slaves suffer would have not been the best option. Slaves would have continued to try to escape to the north and eventually the tension between north and south would probably have led to war anyway. Either that or we would have had half of North America living in apartheid for generations and generations. Not a good idea.
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  42. lol... she wants to "give people the tools to better themselves", then fails to name a single tool that would help anyone.
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  43. No I won't be applauding Hillary if she uses those tactics Thom because I applaud logic and reason not playing the victim. Since when did Obama play the victim against Hillary or the republicans? He didn't because as a black man HE COULDN'T without being de-legitimized as a presidential candidate. However for some reason it's perfectly okay for Hillary to do so.
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  44. I'm no fan of the jingoistic worshipping attitude we have towards the military in this country. However attitudes like the caller are just plain ugly. There's no place for blindly demonizing an entire group. Whether you do it to Muslims, Blacks, or vets, it's all nasty.
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  45. Anyone talking about "sizes of government" as a serious policy objective is an idiot. It's not about the size it's about some arbitrary size it how EFFECTIVE that government is. The caller is brainwashed by the monetary system. We are indoctrinated since birth to worship the monopoly money we're given instead of honoring ourselves and our fellow human beings. It is a sickness in our society.
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  46. Pretty sad how many times this guest has to condemn Hamas just to talk about the brutal killing of Palestinians. If only Israeli officials, US officials, and the media forced themselves to care about dead Palestinians and their continued suffering.
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  47. Libertarians want to be completely free of the government while keeping everything they've acquired by living under stable government. They're like spoiled teenagers.
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  48. The fewer minorities you have in authority the less likely the company is to promote minorities to management positions. I've seen it over and over.. People hired on the same day and the less competent white person gets promoted mainly because the people in authority can identify with other white people more. They don't do it on purpose or consciously. It's just human nature. Meanwhile I'm currently reporting under a management structure with less experience and knowledge than me and it's greatly effecting the work we're producing... Strangely enough everyone reporting under this management structure is black and everyone in management is white... I'm trying my best to inform the powers at be so we can deliver better solutions to our clients, but it's getting to a point where the only option is to quit. ;Although unfortunately not everyone has that option.
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  49. If only the electorate were as educated and informed as Thom's callers....
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  50. Based on Austin's logic we also have a right to own landmines, grenades, rocket launchers, and nuclear weapons right?  Because technology doesn't change the "natural right"
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