Comments by "Mike Armstrong" (@mikearmstrong8483) on "Ed Nash's Military Matters"
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@TheAnxiousAardvark
The Winter War only saw Soviets invading Finland, but both France & Britain promised and planned intervention on Finland's part, so why doesn't that push the start of WWII back to 1938?
The Sino-Japanese war continued until the Japanese surrender in 1945, and included the participation of US & UK forces, so why doesn't that push the start of WWII back to 1937? Some historians say it does.
The Spanish Civil War featured 3 of the major powers of Europe, all belligerents during WWII, fighting each other, so why doesn't that push the start of WWII back to 1936?
The Italian invasion of Ethiopia started conflict in East Africa that eventually involved UK forces, with fighting that continued until 1942, so why doesn't that push the start of WWII back to 1935?
The reason Sept 1st 1939 is generally considered the start is because that is when Germany invaded Poland, which drew in Britain and France, and shortly after that the Soviet Union, so people think of that as a world war because 4 of the major powers were at war with each other. A very Euro-centric, if not outright condescending attitude if you ask me; does the invasion of little countries with less than 10 million people mean nothing? Does the killing of Asians mean nothing? Even if these conflicts involved some of the same belligerents who were still fighting each other later, during the period that is "properly" considered the war?
As for your acquaintance insisting WWII started only with the beginning of US involvement, there must have been some misunderstanding between you two, because that is ignorance beyond comprehension.
Incidentally, I'm his age and also a conservative, but apparently I know history better than him. Did he get his degree by bribing a professor?
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Or, perhaps we can hope that it doesn't just stay at that. A warmongering view? I prefer to call it pragmatic.
Any conflict for Iran, that causes military casualties and attrition of military hardware, and consumes military oriented resources, win or lose, can only improve the status quo vs the US. Losses to them are a victory for us, even if we are not involved.
But we are not at war with Iran, so shouldn't I feel compassionate about loss of life? No. Iranians have shown that they shed no tears over the loss of American lives; often they will even celebrate.
They have chosen a belligerent status against us, they have backed terrorist groups that have attacked us, they have made themselves the enemy. So, it is only beneficial to the US if they go to war with someone else.
The belligerence and threat to regional peace presented by the Azerbaijanis only makes it better. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Unless the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy, in which case let them wipe each other out while I go look for more reasonable friends.
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Caley, Langley, and Ader all made valiant attempts, which flew about as well as the average Red Bull fleugtag contraption. Lilienthal and Chanute preceded them with gliders, Santos-Dumont and others preceded them with airships, but the Wrights were the first to fly a controllable powered aircraft.
Britain, France, Russia, China, and Brazil (and probably North Korea) all claim to have flown first, but not one of them can offer anything other stories about it as proof.
Edited because I mistook what you were saying. Yes, there were other heavier-than-air craft before the Wrights. But in general, aviation historians look at powered craft rather than hang gliders. So I guess we are sort of in agreement.
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With 4 high velocity 37s it would probably have been the only plane of that era that actually had a realistic chance of hitting a tank with a gun big enough to do damage, at least from the rear.
Under ideal test conditions with nonmoving targets and top pilots, it was found that there was only a 7% probability of hitting a tank sized target with a 37mm, which allowing for a 15 round drum magazine meant a single hit at most. Against a moving target, with someone other than a test pilot, facing light flack, in variable weather, an antitank mission relying on guns was almost always a wasted sortie. 20mm guns with higher rates of fire, higher velocities, and more ammo capacity were better for the role, but with almost no chance of armor penetration the best a pilot could hope for was track damage or starting a fire on the rear deck.
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