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mattheginger nope u r wrong mate, Audi,BMW,Merc all have much much better cutting edge diesel engines
This is the first time Mazda did show it can make god diesels at least
I absolutely love petrols and Mazdas 2.0 NA engine is no match for the 1.4 TSI and 1.8 TSI or the ecoboost or even the 116i petrols from BMW, thats what I claimed
The atmospheric engine of Mazda is too damn slow and didnt get anywhere near as the mpg quoted
Ok, but what about the other factors like pooor insulation,poor ride, my question is arent they priorities specially ride quality,
I am sure Mazda has the lest refined ride quality of the 3 sampled here in this video, still why prefer it like ride can be neglected,
I felt the ride specially at slow speeds below 50 kmph to be too harsh, and when speed gets atop 70 the cabin starts booming with road,wind and tire noise, its too damn loud that the radios volume had to be topped up to distract it and there comes rattles from the speaker housing grills from doors, pity built quality
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mattheginger Wow, but u r wrong buddy, see I dont get paid by Audi,BMW for praisin em
I am sure biased but not towards Audi/VW/BMW to Ford and still I say Mazda isnt as god as Audi cuz its not even good as some current gen Fords,
EVerybody knows how good Mazdas tech is the i e loop is also something that works rather than a gimmick, agreed but Y still no reply on the compromises Mazda made to pack bigger engine,more tech,etc
Also the 2.2 is based on PSA architecture, that means without the PSA Mazda cannot draw the first lines on drawing boards, same for Fords TDCI and Jaguars 2.2 l diesel
If u r talkin this way let me say the Audi/BMW is way way better and stronger built than Mazda,much better fit and finish, BMW gets RWD,Audi is most spacious,see each has its own strong points
I specifically like the European engg cuz I felt the corners cut in Mazda are something that really makes one decide like ride quality,cabin quietness and general lack of solidity in cabin compared to Euro products,
U keep on arguing but after driving the new Mazda 6 and 3 and the Fusion/Mondeo in USA back to back I was skeptical
Back here when I drove it over some really bad roads,I absolutely hated mazda, even the 2012 Focus I was driving had much much better cabin insulation,better solidity,better power from 2.0 180 hp TDCI and my deal breaker smooth ride and Focus dosent cost much more than Mazda , still pricier
I recently drove the MK7 Golf and it just kills the Mazda, no way Mazda is better than Golf
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Phillip
Ford and Mazda both worked close really close and shared technology like siblings did, same way Ford was extremely closely working with Aston Martin and Volvo as well,
One cant argue that Ford shared more tech from Mazda or the other way round,but when it comes to diesels both Ford and Mazda shared architecture from PSA Ford named it TDCI and Mazda didnt have any specific name till 2010 cuz they used too much from PSA and was still under developement,
Have you visited Fords plant at Belgium,if not I have and that was an eye opener,Mazda and Ford shared lot and among the first gen Fiesta,Focus,Mondeo it was more Ford and less Mazda, by 2008 etc it was 60:40 ford:mazda,
I have heard of zetec,and much more and that dosent have much to do with Mazda
Also the 2.2 diesel was shared architecture,i have seen it,its shared between PSA,FORD,JAGUAR,MAZDA all have their own versions of PSA 2.2
I am not praising Ford here either,but Mazda isnt substantialas far as I am cincerned,its a cheap feeling car with lot of grunt and economy and value, its isnt nearly as luxurious feeling as the GOLF,A3,BMW in some aspects or the other,actually Focus and Mazda 3 are really close to seperate cuz Ford recently hasnt got much better than the Golf,which is superb car,
Forget reliabity for a moment and drive all these and tell which is better engineered.
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Philip
I cant argue with you, I saw how Ford,Mazda both used the blue prints of the PSA based 2.2 Hdi to develop their own versions of it,
Eg koenissegg uses Fords modular v8 engine block as its base to develop 1000+ hp and is most powerful engine in the world but that dosent mean that engine is Ford v8
Same way Mazda,Jaguar,FORD all 3 didnt have their own base for building their respective diesels,all had or got the rudimentary idea from the architecture used by PSA 2.2 , even PSA HDi is vastly different from what Mazda makes but architecture is same,
I 2 had no idea of these things but the visit to Belgium plant showed me a lot on how auto brands are co related beyond whats we know and whats shared through internet.
I agree that Mazda and Ford are not close post 2010 but b4 that they were worked togather.
Zetec,duratec,sigma,rocam,puma all are Ford engines that shares Mazda expertise as well, same way these engines and their tech are used by Mazda in lot of their vehicles as well,except Sigma and ecoboosts.
Have u heard of Mazda L engines and Ford F engines etc,I have and at least research on it before sayin Mazda and Ford didnt work close.
Fords focus is a car that got derived from an Escort that split into FWD domain and AWD and RWd domain, the RWD domain was based on Mazda Rx series platform as well I think.
I testex Mazda 6 in USA and 3 in Britain and it didnt feel refined or comfortable as a Golf,its suspension was too stiff,cabin insulation is soo bad that one cant talk normally inside the car and the Mazda 6 interior door speaker housing rattled when I popped up the volume in the Bose system,
The rotary knobs in the centre console was already like coming off as well,the car didnt have more than 10000 miles on odo,even still
Whereas the Golf,it was solid,its balance between,comfort,quietness,refinement,handling,power,efficiency,quality,space,ergonomics,solidity was impeccable,
Also dont forget that both Audi a3 and VW golf both won world car if the yearas well,which in no way is coincidence, showz how strong the MQB patform is
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Paul you are extremely wrong
Look at Motor Trends car of the year 2014,its an American magazine and its the MK7 GOLF,Australia is Mazdas best market and there too if u ask people they desire for VW but since its expensive they settle with Mazda or Focus,
Also why is it that everybody is ignoring the bad points of Mazda and highlighting its strong points,
1. Is it more comfy to drive than Focus,Golf,astra,audi,bme,merc
2.is it quiet inside at least as of a Toyota?
3.is it built better than cars of q1?
My answer for these 3 are NO
Then how can one say its outright better when it has cut some seriosu corners.
Also Mazda can or will never touch even Ford for ssles even if its going to be cheaper than what it is now, VW has already ,put the foundation for worlds biggesr automotive brand,
With such poor ride ride quality and insulation it will never reach a premium car aspirsnt maybe for a regular joe who just needs a ride it ll be good but no way for someone who is focused on something like ride,handling,comfort,wuality... All in a single package.
Vw sells more cars in the world than any other brand in the world buddy, not even Toyota is gonna hold too long,GM has already fallen in China worlds largest car market,with new passat and some compact suvs VW will rule the world by 2020. I will bet on it.
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Matt
You still dont understand
See a car thats priced low yet has everything on offer,thats not what Mazda is,if it was I too wud ve agreed with this video,
I have driven the new 3 and 6 and Mazda has cut corners which a lot of Audi,BMW,Ford,VW,MG,SEAT,SKODA,... Buyers cant ignore
For 1 its suspension is super stiff to sttain that brilliant handling,its not like the Golf and Focus where ride is supple yet handling is brilliant,its too stiff at times over B roads
Also the cabin is the loudest of any car in this segment,I bet even a VW Polo and Ford Fiesta are as quiet as Mazda 3 and,6 at highway speeds,its too loud and one feels like one has bought a budget cheap car inside due to excessive wind and road noise in Mazda,thats a gleeming omission
Also just shut the door of Mazda,Golf and Focus and I felt Focus and Golf had a much better solid prominent thud,Mazda again felt tinny,its not a big deal for some but for some it is
So dont tell that its better on all counts,its just an above average product,still not good enough to beat 1.4 tsi Golf and 2.0 tdi golf and 1.5 ecoboost Focus and 2.0 tdci Focus
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Julianlee
U r fucking insane,VW golf is best selling car in the whole of Europe if we consider skodas snd seats and Audis too in rhe list Golf is besr selling car the earth has ever seen,
If its prone to break down how come people buy it more than any other car, even Toyota has no chance against Golf subjectiveley speaking,
Also Audi is rebadged VWs is true upto 30%, but once past that there s nothing in common, the new RS3 with 360 hp is said to kill a lot of v8s just for fun, thats the kind of power Audi has with its new gen quattro and dsg,
Other brands like lexus,mazda,infiniti,etc are in stone age compared ro Audi,
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OMG what the hell are u talkin about matt,its Mazda and Toyotas inability to launch a car with such less price tag, VW sells its car for its chassis and VW rules the Chinese market,
Vw s biggest seller in China is PASSAT and that is wirh joint venture with Chinese car makers as well, and thats why i as a journalist having taken opinions from Chinese owners am sure that people love and prefer VW and Fords
GM sells boring cars but buick,cadillac,etc makes money there,
The point is people want something like VW that are brilliant all rounders unlike Toyota,Honda etc whre is u get reliability iy drives like SHIT,if u have power it handles like shit,
The Mazda 3 is the closest and besr of Eastern competition that has the chance of tipping VWs and Fords but it too isnt perfect,
And people ther wants their cars to b quiet inside cuz cities are horribly noisy so Mazda lets too much noise inside and when road gets rough they say a VW handles good but still more comfortable,
See these are real life opinions from owners and perspective owners in China,etc,
In India VW is still very immature but if u ask any Indian which is the car u desire below 30 lakh RS INR they ll tell any 3 German brands no body will ever tell a Toyota or Honda,
They consider Toyota honda as cheap,and since chepnesa sells everywhere like in USA they 2 sell well,
Cheapness dosent sell in europe thats why Japanese and Korean brands sell less there,in Europe people just look for pure quality thats why VW beats the hell out of Corolla and Mazdas, even in Australia also the Mazda is playing its best game but VW is so damn strong that Mazda customers are turning to VWs but the reverse is very less.
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So what Matt
Didnt u get my point, what I am sayin is VW makes the best all rounders if u belive it or not,
All other brands have strengths but weaknesses too,VW too has weakness but the strengths far out weigh the weakness,
I told Passat best seller cuz Passat is the best original VW sold there,rest all are China made VWs out of MQB chassis,
Also there is something more than this thats what I am talkin about, desire, nobody in Asia desires for a Corolla or Accord or Civic, all think they are cheap compromising alternatives but almost all desire a VW Jetta or Golf over a toyo or honda or nissan or hyundai or mazda
Almost all desire a Passat over an Accord or Camry or Sonata or Mazda 6, from where they got these aspirational values is from long years of expertise and experience and prowess they ve built over these years
Dont u agree that Mazda made Mazda 6 and Mazda 3 because it wanted to trump VW Golf nd MONDEO and Passat,who started the premium hatch back category back in 76,its a VW Golf Mk1,see I have given u more than enuf proof that says VW Golf is a better car than most hatches,its often called king of hatch backs and even as a guy who loves Ford cars I agree that Golf is a better car than any other car in the world,
Again no wonder even the Audi a3 won over the Mazda is world car if the year 2015, title,look at that list 2011 VW polo,2014 Golf,2015 audi a3, I dont think a jury more foolish than me or matt either will take such a decision to give A3 a edge over Mazda,
If u havent been in an MK7 GOLF and its derivatives u r missing something,trust me the new Golf is undeniably the best car I ve ever driven,its fast,has more space in it than all f its rivals,has the best ride quality of any car under 2 segments above,i mean u wont know any bumps or pothholes on road in a Golf it just glides over it,even Focus lets u kno a bit, Mazda is stiff and will make a jolt in cabin,
Its quiet inside its good good infotainment,DSg is toodamn fast and gets superb mpg,
I mean there is nearly 0 compromise except for service costs and initial premium
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See why is it that nobody agreez that the new STI is slower than Audi s3,i having driven a new Golf R is pretty damn sure how the new R performs,more over the drag race here shows how much the new R or s3 can pull ahead off the STI on a straight course,the new STI isnt as good as expected from Subaru,accept it people,
Germans have now become soo good,i actually hated VW products,look at ma proxy name,i love Ford cars and never ever i thought i would even apprwciate a VW but having driven the new R,i must admit that its leagues ahead of ones preception,everybody says it lacks feel blah blah blah, sure it isnt as pin point sharp but it has more than 90% of abilities of Subaru with lightyears ahead of luxury comforts etc as addition,its a fact
If somebody thinks otherwise it must be that one must be a hardcore driving enthusiast or some kind of racing driver aspirant,for 90%+ of people who are buying performance hatchs the new R or s3 is way better car,period
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I too have driven Megane 265 and Focus RS as well, also MK6 Golf R, try not to argue without driving the new R or Audi S3, I know how that beauty Megane corners with that supremely good front diff but take my word the new Golf R is really good, much better than you might think,
Now it seems u r some one who has real merit, the Megane is a real benchmark car and the STi on that count is a car that should be better than the previous generation STi right, but in my observation its not, the new STi didnt feel as precise or light as previous gen STI and felt 2 slow while taking low speed corners compared to the older STi i have driven the old STI, it had less power but more feel,more eagerness, the new STi wasnt that perfect, felt like it was confused whether to be a hardcore machine or be an all rounder, between I test drove the STi today, and everything is pretty much clear for me
Its a great car,sure the diff works brilliantly much better than the VAG cars and one can feel it if one keeps on mashing throttle at full lock and it drifts beautifully, much much better than VAG cars, as said be4 turbo lag really let it down at times, specially when dealing deep U turns etc
I accept that VAG cars are way behind the feel factor but for my money I would pick the Golf R over STi cuz I felt it suits me better
Still I am waiting for my dream car to be launched here in Europe the Ford Mustang Shelby GT350, until then I just keep on test driving cars,
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Ya STI feels like a rally car with HVAC and NAV,
The s3 is a real luxury drive, and most surprisingly fun to drive unlike a lot of Audis like rs3,which understeers like shit,
Also the DSG is soo damn fast that I hit 0-100 kmph in 4.9s,I mean think of it under 5s with a 2.0 turbo i4,isnt that crazy fast,also inside the s3 its like comfort and quality and features that pampers with dedication unlike a so called feeling of loaded interior,
Also VW GOLF R has already got to stage 2 and it does 0-100 kmph in 4.2s,I mean thats insane for a 2.0 turbo, and haldex is so damn good nowadays that the new golf or s3 can lap realy fast,
Subaru aint bad but Audi gives a feeling that its more expensive to but it does give the sense of satisfaction, with Subaru I felt like well there were compromises like the huge turbo lag below 2000 rpm,and always stiff ride quality
S3 nearly showed dual nature ,in comfort mode its like a regular Audi with soft compliant quiet ride,put it in sport it gets stiffer though no way near as stiff as sti,yet dosent pitch or roll
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Razvan J
S3 is not that great but the Golf R is super cool, and what makes it best is unbelievable interior quality,comfort,features,quietness,adjustable dampers, all this and when one needs to some thrills it can stand and even defeat thorough bread sports cars like STi,M135i,etc one should understand that it is a GOLF a family hatch doing all this, STi, etx are made for sportiness, BMW has 6 cylinders and a turbo, the A45 AMG needs 55 more HP, a super stiff suspension to keep pace with R, sure its not the most cutting edge when it comes to driving, but there s no car on planet earth thats a better all rounder than the VW MK7 GOLF R, hell it even gives 17 kmpl on highway drive with 3 on board and at a speed of 110 kmph cruise, and a city mileage of 9.7 kmpl in hardcore traffic and 10.5-11 kmpl on average,
How many cars that can do 0-100 under 5s can manage that, and sure its not a track killer but its lap time of 1:44.04 in Laguna Seca is faster than WRX STi.
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Razvan J
Yeah, but lets b clear here, I meant sports cars becuause they are more hardcore, the Civic SI is hardcore, the WRX STi is hardcore with a full time centre differential unlike Haldex, BMW has 6 cylinders and a turbo, and A45 AMG and CLA 45 AMG are sporty hatchs, they are no regular C, or A Class,
The Golf is theast aggressive of the lot yet its able to be as fast as some entry level M cars with more HP and torque and defeat a Hardcore Subaru WRX STI,
See I am a Ford guy, I am all around for the upcoming Focus RS, but even still after driving the R, the wow factor still remains. Its faster than WRX in striaghts and around most tracks, yet as refined as a Merc C Class, in comfort mode, gives super mileage, it the roomiest hatch,
U really dont get it, If one needs an all around car there is nothing on planet earth that can touch R,
If U still dont believe me, read Motor Trends Golf R vs WRX STi review
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Reinhardt Stroh First of all, dont under estimate Ford, sure the old GT was too twitchy, but one must understand that it too was a mid engine 540 bhp car, how many cars at that time had over 500 bhp, just a few and the GT was on among them
The lack of TCS,ESC,ABS,EBD etc made it likeable only to the most purists of all automobiles
the new Ford GT vs new R8v10+ vs Ferrari 488 GTB vs Mclaren 650s vs Lambo Hurracan will be the most epic battle of this decade after the P1 vs 918 vs LaFerrari battle
I dont care who wins, even if Ford or Audi or McLaren or Lambo fails before the Ferrari its going to b with the slightest of margins and with nit pickings
I give credit to Ford cuz out of all the mainstream mass manufacturers with least income Ford at least made a GT, VAG group has money to buy out nations,Ferrari and McLaren does supercar business but didnt expect a GT from Ford
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Reinhardt Stroh SO what , how many brands had a mid engine RWD sports car back in 2005, I mean did Toyota have 1, did Nissan have1, did any mainstream brand have 1, think about it
Audi,VW,Porsche,Ferrari are all bonkers cash reserves unlike Ford which was founded by a farmers vision to move the world and for that aspect the GT is incredible, who told Ford GT is AMerican, its chassis is British, Brakes from lotus, Shifter was based on Hondas NSX
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Reinhardt Stroh What the Fuk
Sure but just try 2 understand, did Lamborghini mass produce something,are these Lambos and POrscehs mass producers, till when did they start mass production, after VW bought em
If GT was not 2 ur taste just leave it but never tell it was a waste of time and money, it was just a spiritual successor to the GT40 that won LeMans with no TCS,ESC,EBD,ABS etc
Thats the sole reason why it was raw to the core of engineering of a car
Ford had to sell Aston Martin and JLR while in 2006 and they are still and were not the best brand when it comes to economy to b know for making supercars, brands like Toyota,Honda,had better economy but no supercars like the GT
Ford just elevated itself to the level of Audi,BMW,Porsche etc with the GT and the new GT just elevates it to the level of Ferrari
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The biggest issue with Ford is the fools who manage Ford have no idea which all products should be sold at which all markets
Ford eg:
Ford should ve never launched Vignales in Europe, A premium Ford will never ever capture the imagination of buyers in Europe, that always goes to Audi,BMW,MERC
If at all Ford had some interest, they should ve made Lincolns available in Europe with diesel and petrol hybrid power trains, basically just Lincoln Corsair 2.0 TDCi,2.0 Hybrid,Lincoln Aviator with 2.0 biturbo TDCi and petrol Hybrid and Lincoln Navigator with 3.0 v6 TDCi. It wud ve been a niche market but profit cud ve been way better per car than STUPID VIGNALES
Ford should ve never launched Fiesta,Focus ACTIVE models in Europe
Ford should ve never made Puma an SUV, instead a low slung FWD coupe t fight the likes of Alpine 110;Peugeot RCZ
Ford should ve launched Bronco in selected European markets with 2.0 TDCi and 2.3l i4 ecoboost as powertrain options
Ford should have made a very good Mondeo, as of now Mondeo has worst back seats ever in a D segment car, pathetic design
Ford should ve never launched Ford Edge in Europe with that pathetic interior and price tag
Ford should ve given Europe at least a limited run of special edition Mustangs like GT350/GT500
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