Comments by "Kim O\x27Brien" (@kimobrien.) on "Scripps News" channel.

  1.  @gaguy1967  That's why viability shouldn't be a factor. Their is no reason that religious values should be forced upon everyone else. Pregnancy and termination of pregnancy artificial and natural should be like any other medical procedure up to the good sense and agreement of the patient and Doctor.
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  2.  @daviddub  Does the Pro Life position protect the soldier from death?
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  3.  @daviddub  The same Imperialist war political hypocrites that write laws claim that a fetus has a right to life but that somehow women doesn't own her own body. The right to own property is in the constitution if you don't own your own person than you are a slave to someone else. The Constitution originally excluded women, slaves and indians. A fetus is not an independent living being that is why it has no rights because it has yet to be born. The women has a right to medical care including the termination of a pregnancy. .
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  4.  @daviddub  When can I have something to save my life from your living body WITHOUT your permission? Say a kidney or blood? Certainly it would be okay for the government to require you to give blood for the next war right? Your already required to give your life under the selective service act as a male 18 year old in the US.
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  5.  @daviddub  I don't? Why not? How UNChristian off you. Lets say I'm your brother who has a drug problem and needs a new kidney. Do I just go to the Doctors and say hay I've got a brother who has a kidney that will match go take it from him because the one I got from my sister failed after my last drug episode? The problem is NOT when is it is voluntary no one has a problem then. Its when people such as yourself want to make decisions for others. What makes you the moral one? If a fetus was just a little child and a women came into a Doctors office saying she didn't want to keep the pregnancy the Doctor would just induce labor and call it a day. That however would be considered an abortion in most instances where the fetus did not survive. The first rule in medicine is do no harm so its not always easy to know what that means. Tell the women she can't have one because she needs to be responsible? Well than maybe she goes to the Veterinarian gets some pills for dog ulcers and induces labor. Maybe she successfully aborts or maybe she dies of blood loss and her other kids no longer have a mother. But people like you know everything ahead of time and can write laws to practice medicine. .
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  6.  Marilyn Willett  The "unborn" hasn't been born which is the whole point. Lets see what God does to those who don't believe. Hosea 13:16 "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." I'm sure you can dream up an excuse for God after akk you guys are good at making words into pretzels.
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  7. @Isaiah_45_7 WarGamer Sure you don't that's why you chose a bible verse as your screen name. I was a fetus? So what? You an anti women clown and probably have a lot of calcium form cow's milk in your body? Right? So we should make cows into things to worship like fetuses. LAMO
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  8. @Isaiah_45_7 WarGamer Were you ever part of a cow?
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  9.  @jessicascrazylife3530  When it comes to abortion rights the unions need to step forward and help build protests demanding abortions rights and protecting clinics from rightest attacks. Abortion is a women's right and access for working class women needs protection because upper class and middle class women will have access by either hiring lawyers so they can get approval from an abortion "humiliation" board or through air travel to other jurisdiction.
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  10.  @jessicascrazylife3530  There is simply no need for every fetus to come to term. Medical advance ensue a much longer lifetime. If you want to have 11 pregnancies with 2 miscarriages like my grandmother that should be your right. Every women who gets pregnant rolls the dice as it is still more likely to die in childbirth than having a safe abortion. Subsistence agriculture favored having more children because every child helped with the planting and harvest. That may have been a logical and valid argument against abortion. We don't live in that kind of world today. Over have of the world's human beings now live in cities. It's the increase in agricultural productivity that allows half of us to live in cities. Most of us who live in cities can not afford to have the large number of children that women on farms could produce. As far as any moral argument is concerned for thousands of years we have had ways to justify murder in war. Now the moralists have decided that it is better to die of unplanned pregnancy then live. They plan to solve the abortion problem by denying access to the poor and working class while the upper class reserves the right though the old abortion "humiliation" boards and air flight to abortion permission jurisdictions.
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  11.  Ekaterina H  You should have opted to stay in the womb instead of leaving.
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  12.  @ngif1736  A creationist now turned scientist.
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  13.  @ngif1736  Who's profession makes them a qualified scientist a Physician, a Politician, a Priest or a Policeman?
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  14.  @ngif1736  Your position is not the same as the hard core pro birthers. For them they want politicians, priests and policemen making all the decisions and writing laws for all situations ahead of time. As if one could write a book to handle all possible situations in a pregnancy. I have done a lot of thinking about this and I can come up with lots reasons as to why the decisions about pregnancy belong to a women and her doctor. I have yet to here a good one as to why they belong in a law book which the police must enforce. It's bad enough that some licensed physicians shouldn't be allowed to prescribe an aspirin. Why anyone would want people whose biggest skill is wining popularity contests to make those decisions by writing laws is beyond me. They same goes for Catholic Priests who's church has been rocked by the scandal of child abuse. Who's clergy are forbidden to a adopt a single orphan. Yet they are the most and best organized of the pro birth position.
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  15.  @ngif1736  Look you've already made exceptions with saving the life of the mother including psychological ones. A mediocre lawyer and doctor should be able to drive a Mac Truck through that exception.
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  16.  @IWashMyOwnBrain  Sounds like you've done too much scrubbing.
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  17.  @johnnyrebel3340  Polygraphs can seldom be used in a courtroom because of their unreliable nature. The police like them for use in getting a confession with trickery.
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  18.  @ngif1736  Our stance is simple a doctor and a women can act in much more of a moral and ethical way then any corrupt capitalist politicians can ever do no matter how they write a law. They are corrupt and the only way to change that is with a socialist revolution. There are no needs for laws to impose bourgeois hypocrisy. There are already to many of those kind of laws to begin with. Their is nothing moral in forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.
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  19.  @johnnyrebel3340  Look at my avatar does it look like a Democratic Party donkey or an old Dixiecrat Alabama chicken? Google "The Clinton's anti working class record."
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  20.  @ngif1736  In fifty years after thousands of abortion have been preformed you have a total of one doctor convicted of a botched late term abortion escalated to murder. That has to be some kind of record. There's more doctors who've had their licenses pulled for drug abuse and operating a prescription drug racket. It likes the accusation of Che Guevara being a mass murderer. The problem for them is they can't produce the name of a single person unjustly executed but somehow because they say it happened then its true.
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  21.  @johnnyrebel3340  Eugenic was developed from Social Darwinism as an explanation for the great wealth of the Robber Barons. Today that's been altered such that great wealth is being produced by "Smart" and therefore deserving elite university graduates. Hitler transferred this into his Aryan superman theories. Those who were "eaters" were to be transferred to camps and sterilized to remove their genes from the gene pool. This was also previously practiced in the US with sterilization laws for the feeble minded. So no I am against such laws. You don't even know what sex the baby is unless you ask or are forced to look at an ultra sound by anti abortion laws. i oppose the state intervening in all such questions telling you that this or that is the right decision based on what a doctor says.
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  22.  @indiekudi  Agreed.
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  23.  South park 45  Thank you Dr. South Park 45 for one of the most enlightening statements every made.
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  24.  @markhenley3097  A fetus is no more a person than a brain dead man on a ventilator. If it is not a women's body than whose body is it? The corrupt politicians, the sky pilots or the rotten apple cops? All you want is more bodies for the military to protect your foreign investments and workers for your sweatshop operations. The Catholic Church hierarchy pines all day for abortions yet not a single Priest, Monsenor, Bishop, or the Pope himself has adopted a single orphaned child. Not 1,000, Not 100, Not 10, Not just a single orphanned child.
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  25.  @fluxfn7087  All people will die sooner or later. Lets say your in a motor vehicle crash. You are on machines or maybe you are breathing but unconscious and you have no brain function. From a medical scientific view you are dead and not going to come back. Same thing with a fetus only human life hasn't begun until you are born. It makes no difference what kind of brain activity you have because no one ever remembers their time in the uterus or at the time of birth. Birth is the correct place to draw the line. Just as being brain dead is.
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  26.  carolina hernandez  Prove what? Oh wait you can't?
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  27.  carolina hernandez  A fetus and embryo can be human if they aren't the animal version. So exactly what does that prove? If anything science shows that there can be no virgin births as was commonly thought possible by all Christians until the evidence became so overwhelming that Jesus birth had to be declared a miracle. An abortion is just a women exercising her discretion in matters of reproductive health. What kind of morality says every pregnancy must be brought to term? Are you going to send out the cops to investigate miscarriages as possible abortions also? You trust cops, juduges, politicians and preachers because you have been brainwashed into a bunch of religious nonsense.
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  28.  @samuelmerkel2888  I hear you can get a good price on a used but "like new" brain at Amazon. Maybe you should look into buying one and going for a transplant.
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  29.  @oterosocram25  If you liked the womb so much why did you ever leave? Maybe you can find a dealer in shrunken heads and he can do a full body shrink so you can get back inside a women willing to take you back in for reeducation. Should be simple enough for someone who's faith can move mountains.
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  30.  @samuelmerkel2888  Your Probirther's don't want anyone using birth control so we aren't going to accept any phoney arguments that claim contraception is the real right and not abortion. Once you take away abortion than contraceptives are next on the agenda of the Pro Birth, Pro Capitalist, Pro War, and Pro Death movement. You want the maximum amount of children born to the poor because you need us for cheap labor and soldiers for the defense of the US Military Empire.
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  31.  @oterosocram25  Go suck another "Jesus Saves" egg. Religious control over people has been in decline since King Henry the 8th. People aren't all afraid of witches and hobgoblins such that they need protection from sky pilots who are only to happy to take your money for that promise of an afterlife. I don't need you insulting my family by playing the concerned pastor of sheep either. Your the one who has the problem not me.
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  32.  @samuelmerkel2888  It's an excessive and unnecessary to regulate abortion. With over 40 years of abortion rights only one doctor has been convicted of acting illegally. The right to an abortion is a backstop to contraception. The anti abortionists want the state involved in a personal decision claiming they as third parties know what is best. There is nothing moral about forcing someone to surrender there body to someone elses desires. If that was true than slavery and rape could be justified by the "Good Results" slavery and rape provided to the slave owner and rapists. Even the police can not be held accountable for law enforcement that would have saved a life. So where does the right to prevent an abortion reside? It is all based upon the assumption that a women should be obligated first to bring a pregnancy to term. Pregnancies don't always result in a live birth and it is still medically safer to have an abortion then bring a pregnancy to term. There is no reason to believe that will change. If we endow a fetus with legal rights, we give third parties rights to involve themselves in each and every pregnancy because there is absolutely no way a fetus can be consulted in any decision the mother makes other than to assume it wants to live. Give a fetus rights and you open the door to reviewing all the mothers actions during pregnancy.
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  33.  @samuelmerkel2888  The third party is the policeman or lawyer acting for the fetus. The fetus is not a separate being that's you first error. If it was somehow easily separable like a chicken and a chicken egg than you would have a case to demand fetal separation instead of abortion. People change their minds about things all the time. In your perfect world women should only have sex if they are willing to have children. If they are irresponsible you want to compound that error by demanding responsibility and making a new born child into a test for responsibility. We already have plenty of unwanted children but for you we just need more for some stupid moral quest of perfection that most likely involves your god. Let's say I've had an accident and I've lost a lot of blood it's a rare type and your the only one close by with that blood type. Can I demand you give me some of yours? You will probably never miss it. After all if I've lost too much there is good reason to believe I might die. There is no question that I'm a living Human being and I may even be conscious and desirous of life. No one will be able to question your right to refuse in a court of law even if I'm your son. Somehow a fetus has more rights to another's person's body? No analogy is going to be perfect but this one seems to be much more perfect a situation. No question that I'm a person. No question that as a son I'm a result of the sex you had. Of course if that got out you would probably be condemned even more so than a women having an abortion but what if you were a Jehovah's Witness?
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  34.  @samuelmerkel2888  'Choices have consequences and choosing forced pregnancy by police action is your idea of a moral choice.
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  35.  @samuelmerkel2888  For you it's a matter of moral and male superiority. I'm just wasting my time with someone who refuses to acknowledge reality.
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  36.  @etiennebreaux8623  You have no control over how tax dollars are spent.
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  37.  @sandygravel39  I don't like being insulted by people who claim a high moral ground but surround themselves with people who have none to stand on like Mike Pence, Donald Trump or slimy Democrats like Obama and the Clintons. My brother, sister and I were all wanted children. That is what we are for as long as you want them have as many children as you like. Children should be wanted not an accident, an inconvenience, a way to make some cash or a way to "learn responsibility.". There is plenty of misery in life no need to add more to it. Not a single Catholic priest has adopted a child. American law is generally understood to limit state power for individual rights. Not one where you need permission before you can do anything. Unfortunately today we have government that wants to require a license, ID check and permission for everything you might want to do. I'm 65 and being carded for a bottle of beer because of zero tolerance laws. There is no such thing as an absolute morality. I've already argued as to why a fetus is not an independent being and for that reason can not be assigned rights as if it was.
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  38.  @etiennebreaux8623  Immigration, taxes, abd social benefits are different issues from abortion. In general we want all foreign military bases closed and all military spending limited to what would be necessary for a workers militia. A new immigration policy that ends temporary work permits, legalises people in immigration limbo, restricts deportation to a punishment only when imposed at a time of trial. That deportion's should be for limited terms depending on the offense not a one size (30 years) fits all.
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  39.  @samuelmerkel2888  A fetus is NOT an independent being. That is where you deny reality. No human being has ever been born without being previously dependent on its mother's body. END OF STORY. It is only upon birth that we being our lives independently of a single person, our mother. All you moral arguments ignore that simple fact making the voluntary sex act and the rights of a fetus as the only moral considerations. The fetus has no rights because it has no natural way to make itself independent of its mother other than by being born.
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  40.  @samuelmerkel2888  You can get a treatment for leukemia where you blood DNA no longer matches your own. That is also true in transplants from other than an identical twin. I'm not impressed by stupid arguments like letting a baby die on a table. In a natural birth the baby comes out automatically regardless of the mother's wishes. The cord is cut and the baby takes a breath. The after birth has what was the placenta that connected the mother's body to the baby. The mother, another women that is lactating or baby formula can feed the newborn. Biology will no longer dictate to the newborn like it did to the fetus survival being incumbent on one specific individual.
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  41. @Kane Freeman You can write all the definitions of a person you want call a fetus what ever you want but you can't escape one thing and that is a fetus is NOT an independent person. It is totally dependent on its mother's body only for life alone. A fetus can't switch mothers. It can't be temporarily disconnected from the mother. The father can't take care of the fetus while mom goes grocery shopping. If you took a course in sex education you might have learned that very important fact.
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  42. @Kane Freeman Give a fetus rights than it can be evicted by abortion or I can come by and eat and drink at your dinner table free of charge for 9 months. Don't give a fetus rights and abortion can't be called a violation of fetal rights.
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  43. @Kane Freeman People kill each other legally all the time. It's called war or self defense. Killing a fetus is no different than self defense. The rights of the mother come first. Any rights the fetus might have are inferior to those of the mother. The reason being is it is not an independent being. If you unhappy with that then you should take up the problem with nature. You want to give the fetus rights come up with a simple way to remove it from the uterus. Unfortunately we aren't like chickens because then we could do an egg hand off.
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  44. @Kane Freeman We don't give equal rights to dead bodies and you have yet to come up with an argument other than sympathy for a fetus as to why it should have any legal rights. If it's just a matter of sympathy and opinion than you wouldn't be demanding the police enforce anti abortion laws calling abortion murder. If abortion is made illegal women will still seek to have them. Instead of legal and safe they will be illegal and unsafe. Rich and upper class women will get abortions okayed by abortion humiliation boards or get on an airplane to a jurisdiction where abortions are safe and legal. Catholic Priests will be rejoicing since this will mean a continual source of orphaned children for them to abuse.
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  45. @Kane Freeman You keep insisting that the fetus is a person yet fail to show how it can easily become independent of the mother prior to birth.
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  46. @Kane Freeman Your talking definition not an actual situation. Show me anywhere else in the law where a person can be entitled to and get nine months of continuous care from a single person. You mine as well announce the return of slavery since you would at best be able to get a short stay of a few days if a person's life was involved. If the fetus was an independent person it would be a simple matter of entrusting its care to someone else's. People such as yourself keep insisting that the sex act should be the only time a women has a choice. To bad we don't all live in that land of sugar plums and fairies.
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  47.  @nickfeness  A fetus is not an independent being that is the basic reason you can assign it any rights. Either the mother has rights to her body or she doesn't. The fetus unlike an actual born person can not have its custody transferred. I tell you what can I come by to your house and eat at your table for 9 months straight? Because if that is the right you advocate all I need is a sob story and you need to feed me for 9 months straight.
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  48.  @nickfeness  No you only contend there was an agreement between two people of an agreement to produce a child. In 99% of all cases no physical proof whatsoever exists that that is true. Not even a signed agreement between the parties involved. Your responsibility is shown by the limited liability corporation. Do the bankers and the bosses have the right to evict the tenant? That is all an abortion is under bourgeois law. I will be more than happy to bring plenty of homeless from the soup kitchens to live at your house and eat your food. I will tell them that you recognize a right to life and won't mind feeding, clothing and sheltering them at your expense.
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  49.  @jgehbinv  Norma McCorvey paid to be anti abortion. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/us/norma-mccorvey-aka-jane-roe-documentary/index.html SEE AKA JANE ROE
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  50.  @guacamoleniqqapeniss7317  You are NOT human. The fetus is the exclusively the property of the woman. It has no separate rights because it is inseparable from the mother. It's part of her body not anyone else's. Women have been having abortions long before the bible was written and even the bible does not directly forbid abortion. How would you know the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage? Do you propose to have the police investigate every miscarriage? Require every pregnancy to be registered. Anti abortion laws are laws meant to punish women for getting pregnant period. The same people who are against abortion (The Christian moralists) want to end contraception next. It has been an attack on the poor first since they don't have any power in DC like the Billionaires whose wealth exempts them from laws everyone else must obey including any anti abortion law.
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