Comments by "PeterC" (@peterc4082) on "Metatron" channel.

  1. @captainobvious2435 A new specimen or specimens need to be taken with an assured chain of custody. There won't be significant destruction.
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  2. @captainobvious2435 Pope is not the owner of the shroud.
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  3. @captainobvious2435 And also, not scientists by technologists.
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  4. @captainobvious2435 We don't know until we retest. Often we do retest. We don't know what the source material was. We assume it was handled correctly and was representative. You've heard of stats, nice. You're like the guy who has textbook knowledge but also little practical one to go with it.
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  5. @captainobvious2435 We don't know that the sample tested was not contaminated by handling/cotton. Thank you. Take a piece of the image, and assess it for contamination and then test it. You're dead set against testing because you assume the tested sample was not heavily contaminated. You're assuming and speculating. A test will be conclusive. There are many people who think a test should be redone. We're going in circles. And repeating assumptions, does not render them true.
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  6. @captainobvious2435 Tests need to be re-run. The data for that needs 60% contamination comes with caveats. It's simple to retest.
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  7. @captainobvious2435 Nothing was refuted. To refute you'd need the samples which were tested and those were consumed. You need to retest them. What's wrong with you? Why you're so defensive?
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  8. @captainobvious2435 The image is a photo, if that and hence it is not perfectly clear. Your objections are simply thumb sucks, I'm sorry. Either this is real or it's a forgery and does not deserve any place of rest in any church. End of story. Sorry. Send it to a museum. I like your "would have" as though you were there. Buddy you're just set on not retesting it. It will ultimately be resteted. If real it will be a remarkable thing indeed, if not real i.e, made to fool people, a fake relic, it does not deserve any veneration at all and off to the museum it goes. If it was made initially as a fake as simple art, I would say OK that's an ICON, but one does not spill blood on icons. Sorry.
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  9. @captainobvious2435 agreeable?
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  10.  @pequenoperezoso3743  Anyone who supports the EFF in South Africa can't be a serious historian or well read, he is a troll and a grifter. I live in SA and the EFF are what would turn SA into Zimbabwe. Bad E. is a troll and a bad actor. His work is not objective and is political red propaganda. It's polemical and sophist in nature.
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  11. 1211 AD? That's medieval, right?
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  12. These severe allergies are very serious. I don't know if one can hold a restaurant responsible. The risk is too much to put one's life in the hands of low salaried employees. Essentially even a few micrograms of allergen can trigger an allergic reaction. The risk of cross contamination is huge. People who get anaphylaxis in response to say nuts or dairy, should rather prepare their own food from fundamental ingredients. It's horrible but that's the only way to be really sure. Now I could understand if this occurred at a clinic or hospital but in a lay restaurant, despite attempts to avoid cross contamination, because such small amounts of antigen/allergen can trigger a type I hypersensitivity response, it's always a risk. You'd essentially need to prepare food in different areas, a nut free area, a dairy free area, etc.
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  13. The image is burned on the most superficial few nanometers of the linen fibrils. It's not made by contact with a liquid as that would soak through. It's not a vapour as that would also go deeper and be more blurry. It's not painted on as no pain exists on the image. Dead bodies simply don't leave such images behind. There are no traces of strange chemicals on the image or the shroud.
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  14.  @hewhodoes8073  Yes that was a mistake. Giving them the way to industrialise and what it led to in the 20th century.
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  15.  @josecoronadonieto6911  During the Cold War the Americans built Japan up. Previously the Europeans transferred tech to Japan. Japan was a beneficiary of so much good will from the West, all to offset the power balance against China in the late 19th century. It's no wonder the Chinese are peed off.
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  16.  @hewhodoes8073  Rape of Nanking? Korean comfort women? Mass murders in the Philippines, China and Korea? Really?
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  17.  @mugiwara929  I really don't care what China agrees with. But Japan weebery is not healthy nor is it rational.
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  18.  @mnk9073  So you're saying the image can't be detected to be formed by Silver Nitrate depite there being silver residue at the scorch marks? So the image is not made by Silver Nitrite? The silver melted and would be found at the edges of the scorch marks and not in the form of silver nitrite.
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  19. What are you trying to say? That people can't study this cloth to determine how it was made? It is truly remarkable indeed and all evidence points to it being from the first century as other dating tests show that and the C14 testing was not representative. Nobody is forcing you to believe this image is really Jesus Christ. Don't worry.
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  20.  @kowalskee360  Good that you said you're an atheist. That way we know you are better than those Christians.
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  21. It's not hard. What did the USSR give us? NOTHING but misery. Take medicine for example. 99% of the meds we use today, things I prescribe daily for my patients, are or were developed/discovered in the West. Same for most other forms of technology. USSR gave us nothing but misery. They rabble roused and funded wars everywhere. They dumped AK47s everywhere so that a country like South Africa is flooded by these things. And the tankie Metratron is arguing against is a big EFF supporter in SA. Most South Africans will tell you that guy is totally clueless.
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  22.  @biggerdoofus  Nothing. The image needs explanation. As far as we know that's the only image around.
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  23.  @bewawolf19  I'm sorry I attacked your hero, Metatron. There there, he's an intellectual but in his own specific field. I've watched a few Metatron's videos and I never judge his takes on the ancient world, but when he veers outside the area such as the realm of biology or medicine I do see he is out of his place often enough. This object is likely outside his sphere which includes ancient Roman and Greek history, medieval Japan and video games.
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  24.  @Sara-x6t3s  Say I gave two people the same set of information, one person was a high school dropout and the other had a Masters in a field which sort of disambiguated at least some of the background information and the person had previous experience with critical thinking and appraisal of likelihoods, would you claim the high school drop out's opinion was just as valid as that of the person with the Masters?
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  25.  @Sara-x6t3s  Keep going Anglo-Saxon.
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  26.  @Sara-x6t3s  On a diet currently to be healthier. no cookies for me. You can keep them.
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  27. Would you mind having some respect for your audience and not use the s word? I can see you're angry. And we all lost relatives in WW2. I lost a relative on day 1 of the war. He was shot in the face at Westeplatte. But there is no reason to use expletives. Thanks.
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  28.  scold-y4f  Stalin got a bad rep. Actually under Lenin the Bolsheviks were already un-aliving 10,000s of people. Stalin was one member of a criminal gang who got in with Trotsky, Lenin, Beria, Dzierzynski, etc. Felix D at least put a lot of fellow commies out to pasture as well. Even Stalin was afraid of him. But all of these people were bad. Even Khrushchev signed warrants.
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  29. As a Catholic, I can also say that we'd need to hear the entire speech and context here. Because saying all religions are a path to God, does not mean all religions are the correct way to reach God. All religions could be said to be attempts to reach God, well all honest religions, not fake ones created to get money or create armies of servants. But there is a teaching in the Roman Catholic faith or tradition that some of God's nature can be known by reason and that God has created or instilled in us a Sensus divinitatis, which is also found in Calvinism and even Islam. Catholic teaching says that primitive man and later on, even the pagans did have some sort of idea about God and hence there are religions, it's just that we need the Christian Revelation and so the Church to complete this. If we understand the Pope's words in terms of "All roads are an attempt to lead to Rome, but most fail, or perhaps all fail but one" without saying the last bit explicitly, we can understand that the Holy Father is not being heretical here. I would really need to know more context here. And while the Pope should be more prudent with his language because it can lead to different understandings and the idea that he believes in universalism, it may be that it's not the case that he believes that all religions really are the same but it's true that all religions are a way to try to understand God or get to God, (but there is only one correct way to achieve this). For example all methods of audio recording are a way to preserve music for posterity, but we know that wax disks, phono records, magentic tapes and digital media vary in the detail captured. We know also that all philosophical systems are attempts at understanding reality but it's not the case that all are actually correct. We know that there are many ways of interpreting Quantum Theory but it may be that there really is only one correct interpretation. It may that the Pope is just not using the language correctly here and may only mean that all religions are man's attempt to reach God, and he just said it in short-hand which sadly can be interpreted as heresy. This could be the starting point for further dialogue with other faiths. We all want one thing. We're all trying to know God. And God wants us to know Him. Thoughts?
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  30. That Tankie guy is a complete sophist. He throws out insults but there is little substance to his objections. What are HIS qualifications?
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  31.  @dorinpopa6962  I'm sorry but the mass unalivings have been well documented and there is ample evidence of them. You're hallucinating. I'm sorry but the USSR was a terrible sh-t hole. It was an oppressive system which stole property and un-alived people. You should study some soviet archives. Google the work of Vladimir Bukovsky who studied these archives before they were SEALED again. Yes they are still sealed.
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  32.  @dorinpopa6962  You also have to face it. A good number of Soviet losses in WW2 were due to their own actions and not due to the Germans even. USSR did not care about human life. You can see how Putin does things today. He learned those lessons back then. Russians don't care about their own, but it was especially bad under the commies.
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  33.  @IbnRushd-mv3fp  I just looked at that BadEmpanada guy and he must be a grifter. He supports the "EFF" in South Africa, which is not even a real marxist party but a troll party. Also a pro ANC guy. Terrible person who really hates black people in Africa.
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  34.  @ghostthelizard  We left in 1982. I can relate. One should never trust tankies. They use fake data to argue for things which were not so in the 20th century.
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  35.  @williamberven-ph5ig  Unless one is John Ritter in 1989's Skin Deep.
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  36.  @mariaavalon3730  Actually there were differences. Most of those did not involve bodily resurrection and many follow Christianity in chronology ie may have copied Christianity.
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  37.  @mariaavalon3730  no empirical evidence except testimony.
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  38.  @RustyWalker  You're making that argument Rusty Walkeror should I call you Johnny Walker?
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  39.  @yoeyyoey8937  Roman concrete has been figured out. Stained glass windows are well known. There is only one such shroud though so it's extra remarkable. We just don't see bodies leave such images behind. If we did, nobody would care about it.
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  40.  @Tenebris_Sint  Ah yes, that's why I didn't want to talk to you. Because now I'm an anti-semite. But if you were a protestant then I'd have said, your minister told you or your pastor. Now see how you're not charitable? Please go away, I don't want to engage with people such as yourself who are not charitable. Good bye.
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  41.  @mariaavalon3730  I don't know where you get your ideas but you can find lists of these similar resurrected messiahs and you will find NONE are the same as Christ. Superficially there are some similarities but you have to remember that in terms of what people can do there are only a number of limited things which can happen. A deity can only do so many things. So superficially similar things occurring does not make them identical nor the evidence for them nor our evidence for knowing such a thing occurred supposedly. I don't know which historians or athropologists you speak about but the Bible is BIG. It has a NT and OT. In terms of the NT the Bible actually teaches history because previously historians had no idea that Pontius Pilate even existed until some years ago a stone with his name was found. I understand you have some emotional need to think Christianity is zero and you think it's all bunk because you're young and you probably cannot fathom out how people survived in the 90s without GPS or smartphones. You also have no idea how much evidence there is for major historical figures of the past. For example there is more evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ than there is for Alexander the Great or even Julius Caesar. When it comes to religion there is a sociological idea that the sciences are independent of religious belief. Science texts will not go and speak of religious teachings because it would be politically incorrect to do this, or offensive or blasphemous and so on. When it comes to Christianity it is very well documented. We have writings about the early Church and early traditions which are documented, we have archeological evidence, for example the tomb of St Peter was discovered under the Vatican some years ago. Look on YT for this video: "Jesus was NOT copied from pagan mythology (Zeitgeist REBUTTED)" because the guy goes over the different ersatz Christs amateurs bring up.
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  42.  @RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217  Educate yourself mate.
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  43. There are three issues. 1. The sample was not representative is what the best evidence hints at. 2. Yes the fire could cause problems. 3. If the image was formed by radiation, the C14 isotope levels would possibly be affected.
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  44.  @str.77  True. In science we deal in probabilities and likelihoods. .
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  45.  @alexbarn3841  Thank you for sharing your state of mind.
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  46.  @geodkyt  Now you're speculating. Let's forget about Christianity and re-date the cloth and explain the image. And why do you even capitalise the cross?
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  47.  @geodkyt  You need to summarise your ideas into short succinct points. But you're not an expert, nor are experts even in agreement, nor do experts not change their opinions. Have a good day.
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  48.  @geodkyt  Dude you can believe what you wish but you're obviously not an expert and an amateur at best. It's a sign of a non expert to claim to know and dictate to others how things really are. But you're only bluffing mate. At best you read a book or two and those are usually filled with speculation. How do I know? Because I lived through some of the biggest changes on this earth, collapse of the Iron Curtain and collapse of apartheid. And the sherbet I read now from Youtube experts is unlike what I witnessed or what I found while living that world which has passed. Same with WW2. I had relatives who lived through the German occupation and when I hear big d1cks like Timothy Snyder pontificate I shake my head, because it was unlike the experience of my grandparents. There's so much chaff out there. Experts also often bluff. I am involved with some medical research and am sometimes on calls with some world class infectious diseases experts and the amount of amateurish speculation present is quite extraordinary. So mellow out a bit and don't be too sure of yourself. You probably read a book by some clown who made up half of it and embellished the rest.
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  49.  @geodkyt  You've added that polish that one polishes a t-rd with. One clue, how you made a claim about the character of the Romans, based on...? and relating to....? and all pure speculation. Either you copied this from someone or you synthesized it and now you want to appear smart but again, unless you make money from this professionally you're at best an amateur. How old are you? You can't be your age as in that pic and still write such things. Do you not know how the world works?
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  50.  @geodkyt  I don't have expertise, neither do you. But I can tell a confabulator from miles away. If you're not a professional in this, and professionals usually don't type walls of text in comboxes, you're speculating here, an amateur expert, an armchair general so to say.
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