Comments by "Bongoliath" (@OriginalBongoliath) on "Brandon Herrera"
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Here is my long-winded comment which is going to be mostly negative. I have been shooting guns since the 00's and been through many prior sanctions and know what will happen.
1) Russia gave up on 7.62x25 a long time ago. There has been barely if any surplus from them and no new production. All Tokarev ammo comes from Eastern Europe. It has been that way for a long time. The ammo in this caliber has been screwed at least since 2016 when the surplus dried up when people found out how awesome and cheap the round is so this ban doesn't affect it in the least. Most of my ammo is Polish or Chinese surplus/Norinco yellow box anyway.
2) 9x18 is still made by Fiocchi, S&B, and even Winchester. It is more popular than you think, more than 5.45 and IMO 7.62x54r. It will be the second least affected after 7.62x39.
3a) No one but Romania outside of Russia makes steel cased ammo anymore. All the former Warsaw Pact countries and Yugoslavia are all brass ammo now. They will not tool up to make steel cased 7.62x39 or others for American shooters when brass cased ammo is NATO spec and nets them government contracts. They will not be charging steel cased prices for it even if they do tool up to do so. Russia owned the cheap steel cased game and Romania can't compete. Those days are over. This is also why AK prices have never recovered since 2014. Little Eastern Euros can't compete with a world power like Russia on the same economic scale. That is a fact.
3b) Ukraine not only lost their factory to the separatists but they are sanctioned by the US government too so even if they did somehow manage to get an ammo factory again it will be only brass ammo, in NATO calibers because Ukraine hates Russia and wants to get away from them, and banned.
4) While imports may be coming in for now, the fact the supply is finite means the price will only go up like it has for Chinese ammo and 7n6. Once the supply is made finite, the demand is permanent and the supply cannot meet it thus permanent price rises. Simple supply and demand. The government can revoke the import permits too if they feel like it on a whim whenever it wants to with no recourse. Ask PW Arms how that went for them when they tried to sue the government for their 7n6 ammo. Went nowhere.
5) The import ban is permanent. Russia is not going to let the US inspect its chemical warfare stockpile nor pay Navalny any reparations. It is a done deal.
6) America cannot compete with Russian ammo prices. Too many taxes, fees, regulations, and cost of living here makes it impossible even if they did decide to expand production. For all of that and to make steel cased ammo profitable is asinine. Might as well just make brass which is already happening anyway and has been for years. Even when America made steel cased ammo it was hot garbage. Remember Winchester Steel Forged 9mm? It was worse than Tula. America is brass country and always will be.
So yeah there is no good outcome from any of this. The only advice I can give is stockpile what ammo you can while you can because prices will only go up. Domestic ammo isn't safe either and is screwed by this as well. We are in a cold civil war and global psyop and if you think everything will return to normal, you are extremely naive to how the world and globalists work.
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