Comments by "Me Here" (@mehere8038) on "Business Insider"
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@Dave-in-MD often a valid response, but in this case not. Very easy to look up photos of meat in Australia & other industry facts to see that my comments DO in fact represent the VAST majority of Australians. (and any not represented just have to suck it up, cause it's what Aussie health departments expect too)
A handful eat tiny amounts of Wagu beef as an occasional treat, but you simply will not find meat like in this video in any Australian supermarket or butcher, cause again, it simply does not sell! It gets "reduced to clear" stickers on it anytime they try & then further "reduced to clear" stickers. You will see stickers on meat like that with a $2 sticker, down from $30 or so & it will STILL be sitting on the shelf & no-one buying it!
"coles" and "woolworths" are the main stores in Australia, go look at the meat photos & range on their websites if you don't believe me. Look at the range of kangaroo meat & how lean that is while you're there too.
Meat that looks like this video is exported when found in Australian abattoirs,, since it earns high profits that way, vs being thrown away if attempted to sell to Aussies.
Also note that only 2% of Australian cattle are in feedlots & they spend only 2-6 weeks there (as opposed to 3-6 months in the US). Any meat destined for the Australian market is grass fed to slaughter, as that keeps it lean, which is what ALL Aussie consumers demand.
Much the same as how Aussies eat very little pork/bacon/pig meat. Lamb is a bigger seller in Australia than pig is. Chicken & beef are the biggest sellers though, with chicken ALWAYS being eaten skin free & beef from lean animals. Fish is also hugely popular, I'm not sure how it's sales compare to beef/chicken, due to the huge variety available.
Eating in Australia is just culturally FAR more healthy & lower in fat & sugar than in the US. Students from the US almost always comment on how they lose weight on moving here, even when seemingly eating the same foods as they were eating back home in the states.
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@Dave-in-MD There is a "dulopoly" in supermarkets in Australia, with coles & woolworths. 48% of Australians say they primarily shop at "woolworths the fresh food people" and 39% choose coles as their primary shopping location, so that is 87% of Australians that reject fatty meat before we go any further.
Local butchers likewise sell lean meat, but as I already said, you can easily look at the website for either of the above to confirm what I am saying. Both do extensive home delivery & "click & collect" (I'm currently on the woolies site doing my shopping for tomorrow's delivery), so the websites are full service, with photos of what to expect when you order online for all available meat cuts.
EXTREMELY easy to confirm what the majority of Aussies eat, equally easy to confirm the amount of time spent in feedlots for fattening in each country
Or if you don't like any of that, just go to the redit "ask an Australian" group & ask yourself & see if you get ANYONE from Australia telling you they will eat fatty meat
You can also btw look at what is sold as bacon in Australia, cause I believe you sell strips of fat with a little meat? We sell the meat that has the big round lump of sold meat & a tail that has half half fat & meat, but a lot of people feed that to their dogs & eat only the meat part when buying bacon - bacon's not a big thing in Australia anyway though, was when I was a kid, but bacon & egg fried breakfasts have gone out of favour a long time ago as unhealthy. They've been replaced by Asian foods that are much lower in fat, more taste, less health issues
All foods in Australia have "healthy star ratings" too btw, with 0-5 stars to help people choose more healthy foods & if you put a low star food in your trolley on the above websites, it will give you an option in the product details to "choose a similar, more healthy alternative" to click on & get the higher star/healthier options to replace it with if you wish to
I wouldn't even know where to look to find fatty meat. There's probably 1 or 2 companies in big cities that do it, probably targetting expats who want fatty muck, but it's certainly not readily available, would take a lot of time & effort to find! & that's because of a lack of demand, the big 2 try anything that might sell, they've done stuff like "corn fed chicken" etc (that I believe was supposed to be more "flavoured" due to higher fat), but then they withdraw them from sale when no-one will buy them, which happens consistently.
We have universal health care here, which means doctors are rewarded with bonuses for educating people on healthy eating & lifestyles, cause it saves our country lots of money in the long term, due to lowered chronic illness like diabetes rates & lower heart attacks etc. Even normal weight people get blood pressure checks on any doctor's visit & blood sugar levels with any blood tests & doctors intervene with any early signs of issues, which means making sure the person isn't eating things like fatty foods, chicken skin, too much soft drink etc etc (chicken skin being the big one, cause chickens are often sold with skin on to keep in moisture during cooking & sometimes poor, less educated people miss the info that they are supposed to remove & dispose of the skin before eating)
Like it or not, the simple fact is cattle in Australia are raised to be low in fat & any that can't be for various reasons see their meat exported to countries like the US that are willing to eat fatty meat. They simply do not even try to sell it here, cause it does not sell
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@-Secret Very rare with opals in Australia. Opals don't lend themselves to industrial level production, so it tends to be individuals, who tend to take care of their own safety.
Coober Pedy is the main opal centre of Australia (although for white opal, not black) & people literally live in the "mines" there, they have electricity & plumbing & everything a normal house would have, except they build their houses underground, so as to avoid the heat & they can afford to do so, because excavating for the house finds enough opals to pay for the construction/excavation. There's churches, pubs, hotels, everything you can imagine found underground in "mines" in Coober Pedy & people can literally dig for opals while sitting on their lounge watching tv in their living room, so again, wrong gem to be talking about that with. Lots of gems & metals put people in danger, but Australian opals are really not one of those
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@DrZaius3141 I mostly get my "propaganda" from the UN's FAO. Their study showed that 84% of all food eaten by all livestock globally is inedible to humans, with chickens & pigs being the main consumers of the human edible component & cattle eating very little of it.
I'm not in the "global north", but even if you want to reference the US, which is the least efficient livestock feeding system in the world, reality is that 1. those systems exist because of corrupt subsidy systems & have nothing to do with cattle, cattle are just being used as waste disposal for the grain farmers are paid to produce, but that they then have to dispose of without feeding humans, so as to maintain global grain prices at the high level said farmers want & 2. even in those systems, cattle are still only eating 6kgs of human edibles to every 10kgs of meat they produce, because in reality, cattle cannot eat only grain, they MUST be fed primarily lower calorie feedstuffs or their rumen develops bacterial problems & the animal dies. The global average btw is 1kg of human edibles eaten for every 10kgs of meat produced
So you want to rant about soy huh? Ok fine, soy's not fed to cattle, it goes to chickens & pigs & my comment related to cattle, NOT chickens & pigs, but fine, how much oil free soymeal do you eat each day? How much washing powder, shampoo etc etc, all the products with "vegetable oil" in them, do you eat or use per day? If you're not eating 5 times as much oil free soymeal as you are using in all the other products, then you are the problem! 98% of the world's soybeans are grown for their oil. Oils in all the above are either soybean oil or palm oil. Soybean oil makes up only 18% of the bean, so 82% of every soybean is waste & yes, that waste IS fed to chickens & pigs, cause you are refusing to eat the quantity needed to get rid of it & prevent mouse & rat plagues! The alternative of course is to use waste animal fats in your washing powder, but since you refuse to do that, soybeans must be grown especially for you & livestock are required to dispose of your waste. There is currently enough soybean waste in the world to feed 100 billion chickens from birth to slaughter every year!
In the rare cases where soybeans are grown for cattle, they are grown for 3 months instead of 4 & then harvested as silage, with the ENTIRE plant being used as food. When they are grown for oil, the plants are grown for 4 months, then they are sprayed with herbicide, then the plants are left for the 5 day exclusion period & to die from the herbicides, causing even drying throughout, then the 50 little beans are harvested from each plant & the rest of the plant is disposed of & from those 50 little beans, 18% is used & the rest of the beans become waste, just like all the leaves & stems & pods have already become waste, whereas when eaten by cattle, ALL of that material is eaten & converted into meat! Sure, only 10% of what's eaten becomes meat, BUT even if you're eating the entire soybeans, that's only 2% of the plant you are eating & 98% you are wasting, so the cattle's 10% conversion is far more efficient than your 2% isn't it!
Wanna test it? Amaranth is cattle fodder that vegans have now decided they want to eat, consequently yields are readily available for both. For cattle fodder, 1 hectare produces 40 tonnes of fodder per month, or 240 tonnes of fodder per 6 months, with just nitrogen fertiliser (cattle poo) & no herbicides or pesticides required. To grow it for vegans instead, 6 months is needed for growing of fodder (leaves), then seed growing processes, then seed drying for harvest. To create seed, potassium & phosphorous fertilisers are needed in addition to nitrogen, plus regular pesticides are needed & regular herbicides to reduce weeds (that cattle happily eat, along with any bugs). At the end of that 6 months, 1 hectare of amaranth will produce an average 1 tonne of amaranth grain.
So we have 1 tonne of amaranth grain, or we have 240 tonnes of cattle feed, with your claimed 5-10% of that becoming meat, so that's 12-24 tonnes of meat from the same land area as your 1 tonne of amaranth, if using your calculations on feed conversion ratios. Far more nutrition & calories in 24 tonnes of meat than there are in 1 tonne of amaranth aren't there!
As for water, the reason land requirements are generally put so much higher for cattle than crops is because cattle actually require far less water than crops, so cattle are put onto land too dry to grow crops. Just look at images for "Australian cattle station" if you want to see typical cattle farms & try to imagine growing soybeans on land that looks like that! Obviously in deserts, more land is needed to find food than on lush arable land, but if we compare like for like, then in reality, cattle are FAR more efficient per hectare than soybeans & other plant crops are. Most efficient of course is both, the highest calories possible from land come from rice fields, grown with fish in them to control mosquito & feed on them & ducks to control snails & feed on them, with both becoming food when the rice field is drained & after harvest, the rice straw being kept as feed for the animal that will pull the plow for the next crop, having that rice straw then converted into milk & cheese.
So yes, I repeat, vegans are ignorant, they rant propaganda nonsense, with no actual knowledge of how farming works or what animals are eating, or even what percentage of crops humans are eating! Humans consistently get only 1-2% of the nutritional value from grains & other crops! Lettuce you get higher, but you're not eating just lettuce are you? Very water inefficient if you are!
Go do some proper research & learn something!
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@aj-sz8mu it does bring in money though, those oranges are all tax dollars, which are lost when the oranges are lost.
You can also bring plants into Australia btw, but not in soil & they must be sent to quarantine facilities for extended time periods, making it generally non-viable. Alternatively, they can be grown in quarantine approved facilities in other countries, such as is done with orchids sold in supermarkets here, all come from Indonesia, in sphagnum moss, not soil & all are grown in approved facilities. average people are limited in practical terms to only seeds & some plant seeds are not allowed, but most are, IF labelled fully & declared & free of foreign matter. Same with foods & other biologicals, most are actually allowed in, they just need to be declared & checked by trained staff before being let in. WA & Tas. are the only states in Australia with limits on taking plants, wood etc across borders, fruit is also significantly limited, due to fruit flies being non-existent in most of the country, but unable to be eliminated in other parts, so spread is prevented with strict quarantine on anything they could travel in. quarantine doesn't have to be that restrictive, just done smartly (and a safety net also needs to be in place to be monitoring & taking extreme action to eliminate immediately if any breaches occur, wiping it out before it's too late to do so
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