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  1.  @Wheca  No, what you mean is, you can't and won't explain yourself because what you're saying is insane. You want to move on quickly without justifying anything so come out with a load of pointless questions to deflect. When you make a claim, you're supposed to justify it in a rational manner with factual information. You haven't done any of this. You said a fighter is a bum if they don't beat names or win titles in different weight classes. Well, neither Cox or Lasalle won a world title or beat names. So, they must be bums then. That's what you said. But all of a sudden, they're not bums, they're world class and ATG's are they? Hypocrisy knows no bounds with you. Same thing with contradictions. Justify your claims, then we'll move on to another topic in which i'll win just like i did with every other topic. But you have to justify these claims first. That's how it works in the real world.
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  2.  @Wheca  What am i dodging? Spell it out? Tell me what questions i didn't explain in full?
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  3.  @Wheca  I asked you which of your questions i supposedly didn't answer in full and explain myself in great detail? You mean the questions you kept on replying with to actually deflect away from you answering and justifying my questions?
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  4.  @Wheca  You haven't justified a single one of your claims. Over a hundred replies now, and that isn't even including over 200 last time, where you still didn't justify a single claim. If you had Vasquez winning by a point as you had the same score card as Bellew other than the 12th round, where are you justifying Vasquez winning the second round? A round Cordina clearly won, thus making Cordina the actual winner? I asked you to justify Arce and Azteca being ATG's like you claimed. You haven't come close to doing so. I asked for their world class wins. You then changed the actual goal posts by claiming fighting world class opposition proved you were an ATG, even though Arce was knocked out by them. Azteca didn't beat any world class opposition either. You also said you had to win world titles in different weight classes, Azteca didn't even fight for the title let alone win it, as he was nothing but a domestic level fighter. The two opponents of his you gave, also didn't fight for the title as they weren't top fighters. They didn't even fight the best of that era. You only need to check their resumes to see that fact. If Arce didn't beat any world class opposition, that renders his 3 titles at different weights meaningless. What world was he a champion of? Bum world? To be an ATG you actually have to fight and beat world class opponents who are prime, or near prime. Where are they? Explain yourself.
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  5.  @Wheca  As for your repeating of Phil Bloom supposedly never facing anyone of worth, he fought 7 inductees into the IBHOF and fought them a combined 17 times. You clearly lack any knowledge to speak of.
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  6.  @Wheca  If you can't explain what qualifies an ATG, why would we put 5 names each? You'll just do what you did last time and put any Mexican you can find up and claim them as an ATG. That's why that question you deflected with makes no sense. You either justify your claims and stop deflecting, or you forfeit this discussion and lose again. Your choices are, accept Arce is a bum and has no world class wins, thus meaning he isn't an ATG like you claimed. Or you give me all his world class wins and justify every one of them. Do you understand? I have no problem in proving we've beaten you more times in world title fights than you have over us. But first, you're going to have to justify the claims you've made here and not deflect for over 300 replies the way you have done. It's entirely up to you.
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  7.  @Wheca  Do you even know how to read? I said 7 inductees in which he fought them a combined 17 times. Those names are as follows: Ted "Kid" Lewis, Benny Leonard, Rocky Kansas, Johnny Dundee, Jack Britton, Freddie Welsh and George "KO" Chaney.
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  8.  @Wheca  You're an ATG if you fight 3 world class fighters but get KO'd by all 3 of them? So you're saying that if you yourself fought 10 world class fighters and were to be KO'd by all 10 of them, you'd be an ATG? LOL. And you think this makes any sense? No, you are not an ATG just because you were KO'd by a few world class fighters. You do not qualify as one. Last chance. You either justify Arce being an ATG by giving me enough wins over world class opponents or you accept he was nothing but a bum. Which he in fact was. Deflect one more time and i accept your loss again. It's clear you're out of your depth and want this to end. Deflect again and this all ends for you.
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  9.  @Wheca  Jorge Arce is not an IBHOF inductee. He may be inducted into some tin pot hall from around the world, but it isn't Canastota and the real International Boxing Hall of Fame. There are a few Hall's around the world like the Australian one, the Nevada one or the Atlantic City one. But they are not being inducted as ATG's. They are no such thing. These Halls don't matter. The only one that matters is the International Boxing Hall of Fame. He is not an inductee. Do you even know what hall of fame he's supposedly an inductee of? Where are you getting this information from?
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  10.  @Wheca  I've just checked, it's the Nevada Hall of Fame. LOL. He's in there with some of the greatest the world of boxing has ever seen like Clarence "Bones" Adams, Lamon Brewster, Leroy Haley, Don Minor, Richie Sandovol, Freddie Little etc etc. With illustrious names such as these, how could he not be an "ATG" just like these legends. LOL. Seriously, that place started in 2013 and is about as worthless as it comes. If these names don't tell you how low level the place is, nothing will. As i say, Jorge Arce is not an ATG nor an inductee into the International Boxing Hall of Fame. You know, the actual real Hall in Canastota? He wasn't good enough. He lost every time he fought world class opposition. Don't tell me, the other bum Kid Azteca is in another one of these great halls? If not, how is he an ATG to you?
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  11.  @Wheca  You haven't given any satisfactory answer to any of the 3 questions i keep asking you. It's just been over 300 replies of mindless nonsense. You even said that YOU didn't say Arce was an ATG, but the hall did. Which means, you don't even know any of the names Arce beat do you? You can't actually confirm or deny if he is or not. You're supposed to have the ability to know about the subject matter. But it's clear you're clueless on everything. Explain how Kid Azteca is an ATG? If you refuse and deflect again, you lose by forfeiting. Do you understand? Either that or admit he was a bum who did nothing in his career. Then i'll happily give 5 world title wins over your lot and you can send me 5. We'll do that until the other runs out. But answer the Aztec question first.
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  12.  @Wheca  It's clear you want out. I gave you the chance but again you deflected without justifying any of your claims. I accept you quitting again as you can't give anything other than repeating the same nonsense over and over again like last time. You lose. You've embarrassed yourself enough for me to be satisfied anyway. For the record, i could answer every question you put forward. But all you do is ask questions to deflect every time i ask you for an answer and justification for your ridiculous claims. But if you don't answer to your claims, i'm not playing this silly game for over 4/500 replies without you so much as answering to one single claim. That would be insane.
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  13.  @Lameahhboi9393  I have no idea what comment/Comments of mine this relates too. But i'll happily set the record straight on your comments. 1) Freddie Roach is a 5 times trainer of the year award winner. Therefore, you're wrong. But that's not all. Your trainer of the year has had his stable fail tests unlike others. Once caught, they all started to lose. 2) Who cares about title wins? It's about the quality of the opposition you've beaten. Chavez isn't in the top 50 all time. 3) Only two countries in history have produced a champion in all 17 weight classes. They are the UK and the USA. Mexico hasn't. Andy Ruiz is American born and raised. Not Mexican. If it comes down to ethnicity, then you lose all of those from the US and Mexico who are of Spanish/European descent. Very few in your history are mostly or fully native. Therefore, you're wrong again. 4) Name all those champions who legitimately won their fights to defend their title without any bad decisions? I think you'll fine nearly all fail in this regard. 5) We can't sell? Would this be the nation who have sold out stadiums and 20,000 seater arena's regularly? Outside of Canelo, who sells big in Mexico? 6) Canelo is the face of boxing in North America. Outside in the wider world, no one really cares nor knows who he is. He doesn't have the international fame like a Fury, Usyk, Joshua etc etc... 7) No, you're the one who needs to sit down. Clearly.
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  14.  @Lameahhboi9393  How can you run boxing when all of your champions are only due to dodgy decisions? Name all that are legit and not through ill gotten means? How many wins of merit can you name that didn't have an inactive opponent, a shot opponent, an opponent coming from a loss, or other methods to gain an advantage? Name all those champions that Canelo beat that weren't shot, drained, too small, inactive, robbery, or wasn't allowed a full training camp? Simple question that i've already asked you only to get nothing back. Usyk, Joshua and Fury have fought all over the world and sold out arena's. Canelo hasn't. They are PPV around the world. Canelo isn't. They're superior fighters than Canelo. They don't duck opponents until they're done or inflict a mass of conditions on them before they'll face them. Tank is fraudulent as he's ducked everyone for years and does what Canelo does by making sure his opponents are at their weakest before he'll face them. Crawford is good, but he doesn't go beyond that. His resume isn't strong enough. Plus Spence was far too inactive when they fought. Spence looked shot for a reason. That kind of inactivity will do that to you. It's why your lot seek it out all the time.
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  15.  @Lameahhboi9393  I see you accept you were wrong on the trainer of the year award. Wrong on Chavez being anywhere near to the best ever. Wrong on Mexico being the only nation in history to have had a champion in every weight class. That would be the UK and the USA. Not Mexico. Nor have you disputed the fact that Reynoso's entire stable failed a load of tests where their performances dropped quite alarmingly afterwards. You also didn't tell me which Mexicans outside of Canelo sold in big numbers? Could you tell me now please?
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  16.  @Lameahhboi9393  Why are you not answering the questions? I've made them very clear. Which of your champions are legitimate through actually winning their fights? Which world class fighters did Canelo beat that didn't have any conditions attached? Which world class wins for your lot had no conditions attached? You're just deflecting and nothing more. Which ATG's popped like Eric Morales did? You said Reynoso was the most accomplished trainer. I corrected you. Who cares where Freddie is from? Is Freddie Roach not a trainer in the world of boxing? Yes, he is. Therefore, you're wrong. Your fallacy won't change that fact.
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  17.  @Ab-rt2vw  Literally, they did. Many Mexicans said this. It's as laughable now as it was when they first started saying it.
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  18.  @mmastiff734  The judges in the UK are mostly international. But which fights can you name that had bad judging? In the US, it's constant. You won't get a card without at least 1.
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  19. Why, Taylor is Scottish, not Irish.
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  20. Yeah, Ramirez getting smacked up.
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  21.  @serendipitouscomet  Please stop attempting to score fights when someone you support is fighting. The bias is atrocious. George was dominated and outclassed. And yes, George has a lot of blame as he justified the grotesque robbery by saying he won nearly all the rounds with Maxi only winning a couple. It's over for George. Not only for not being good enough, but through his clear delusion as well.
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  22.  @transformyalifestyle1349  George definitely won as seen through the highlights? Hahahahaha. You can't score a fight through highlights. Especially ones that come from a corrupted promotional platform that showed all of George's best bits (They were very thin on the ground) and pretty much none of Maxi's. Some people were just not made for the 21st century. They still exist in the dark ages intellectually.
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  23.  @gorillamafia5144  Just because Fury did so, doesn't mean everyone could. Getting used to a new environment isn't easy. With Fury being a Westerner and actually knowing many in the Cronk throughout the years helped greatly. Ramirez is a foreigner to all of this. He doesn't even speak English either. Cubans can get very lazy when they reach the West and lose the focus they had in the amateurs. Ramirez losing his first fight was a wakeup call that he answered. He's even beat the guy who beat him. He now knows what he has to do to succeed.
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  24.  @gorillamafia5144  Is that all you have to say? I articulated perfectly why it's different to someone like Fury. And yes, Cubans are very well known for slacking off after reaching the West. How long have you been around boxing? It's a common theme. To go from poverty to being able to eat and doing all the other things you couldn't at home takes their focus in other directions. It happens to Western fighters too. But could you imagine what it's like being in their position?
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  25. You don't even need to be world class to beat these Mexican tomato cans. All you need to be is active and without them putting any conditions on you. If it's a fair fight, they lose big. It's happening across the board. If a threat exists, they'll duck until they're compromised in some way. Otherwise, they'll just leave it alone and fight a handpicked outsider. Then you've got all the gift decisions to contend with. And most of their "Wins" are gifts. Just how many wins can anyone name without any conditions or gifts being attached to it? Give it a go and you'll be shocked at how widespread it is.
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  26.  @HatersHaveOpinion1  No, he didn't. He won. Haney got a gift decision like so many do when fighting in the US. I see you couldn't dispute Tank ducking and cherry picking his fights non stop. A fraud could never run any sport. Regardless of your desperation.
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  27. Japanese fighters don't go after inactive opponents or weaken them before taking them on like Mexicans do. Japanese fighters do it properly with honour. Unlike Mexicans. That's why the Japanese fighters are real and legitimate. Unlike Mexicans. Japan is a real fighting nation. Unlike Mexico.
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  28. Navarrete wouldn't have been dominated by Conceicao if he was the superior fighter.
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  29.  @matt-74e  Who did he beat to get these titles in 3 divisions? His resume is beyond poor. Something is seriously wrong if you have that many world title fights but they're nearly all cans.
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  30.  @matt-74e  Canceircao has very little power, and yet, Navarrete was cautious and didn't want to engage much. That tells you everything.
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  31.  @deisysanchez1641  Wow! Those belt rankings do not in any way reflect the best in those divisions. Outside of Dogboe and Valdez, none of them were world class. Therefore, nearly all of them were scrubs. Not only that, but it's the WBO. An organisation that Arum (Naverrete's promoter) has close ties with and has on many occasions manipulated the rankings to benefit his own fighters against fighters from other promoters. If any threats in those divisions exist from another promoter, Arum will keep them low in the rankings to make sure they can't get their hands on said title. It's up there with the way Don King operated with the WBC. The corruption is well known in boxing circles and has been going on for many years. But if you think they were world class, give me their name and tell me what they did to prove themselves world class? Then you have the corruption at TopRank were you can lose a fight clearly like here with Conceicao, but get a gift draw or win. This not long after the long count from the ref to protect Navarrete after being dropped by Liam Wilson.
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  32. Yeah, he didn't come close to winning. Just accept Americans are bums and move on.
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  33. She clearly lost. Nina won that handily.
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  34.  @LucieOne  There is a criteria for scoring fights. Nina won in every area of scoring.
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  35. Roids and Peds are the same thing. LOL. Is that what Pacquiao was on when he was winning?
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  36.  @lollololololololololololo  Guevara doesn't have any losses against Europeans. That's how much knowledge you lack here. 1 of those losses was in Mexico. 1 was against another Mexican. The other 2 were in Japan. But do please point out which of these fights were robberies? What was your score card? Moloney won this fight by 3 on my card. 7/4 with 1 even. Just because it's a split or a majority decision, it doesn't automatically mean there was a gift involved.
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  37.  @IHTLS  Mayweather didn't get any gifts. He beat Maidana, Castillo and De La Hoya in close fights. You don;t get the decision just because you made it close. That isn't how it works. Tell me which of your fighters today that don't have any gifts? They all do. No one gets more gifts in world boxing. That is a fact. Then when you look at the condition your fighters seek out in their opponents, then it gets even worse.
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  38.  @giorgiogrillo5053  Castillo didn't even win, let alone clearly. Mayweather won by 2 on my card and 4 in the rematch.
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  39.  @giorgiogrillo5053  Yeah, on my card. Why, on whose card did Castillo win? It wasn't the judges, that's for sure. In order to call it a robbery, you must have your own card where you had Castillo winning. For the record, i'm white. I'm not American either. Nor am i particularly a fan of Floyd. I'm very aware that he spent most of his career cherry picking his opponents and ducked Pacquiao for years until he was past his best.
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  40.  @giorgiogrillo5053 Yes, my card. Why, how did you come to the conclusion of Castillo clearly winning when Mayweather got the decision? It would have to be your own score card.
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  41.  @taunica51  The whole system with them is corrupt to their core. Always have been.
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  42.  @RM_2423  Would you now like me to list all the many ways to gain an advantage as well? It's even more extreme than the list i've already given you.
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  43.  @RM_2423  Every single fight i gave was a gift. But you haven't given me a list of gifts like you claimed you would. Just a few smaller opponents. Why is that? Did you say i hate your fighters after what you wrote to start with? You lack awareness or a sense of irony. Clearly. Canelo - Charlo (16 weeks inactive and 2 weight classes smaller) Fielding (Rehydration clause) Jacobs (Rehydration clause) Golovkin (Aged out and gift decisions) C Smith (Only given 3 weeks camp) Kovalev (Rehydration clause, shot, and not having enough time to rest between fights) Chavez (Shot and drained) Khan (2 weight classes smaller) Cotto (Smaller and finished) Kirkland (Shot and inactive) Angulo (Shot and coming straight from defeat) Lopez (Smaller) Mosley (Shot and smaller) Cintron (Shot and smaller) Gomez (Smaller) Rhodes (Shot) M Hatton (Smaller) Ndoe (Shot and smaller) Baldomir (Shot and smaller) As you can see, he's made a career out of it. But wait, all of yours do.
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  44.  @RM_2423  Lara vs Warrington (Warrington inactive 17 months) Lara vs Wood 1 (Wood inactive 1 year) Zurdo vs Goulamirian (Goulamirian inactive 16 months) Ramirez vs Taylor (Taylor 1 round of action in 19 months) Ramirez vs Postal (Postal inactive 16 months) Munguia vs Chenko (Chenko inactive 1 year) Munguia vs Johnson (Johnson inactive 15 months) This is all you see across the board. Could you list wins with merit that DON'T have any conditions on the fight? I see what you're doing. I know how you're doing it too.
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  45.  @MichaelHaywood-d5k  Clearly you couldn't name more Hispanic ATG's than Caucasian ones. But thanks for the riveting and intelligent reply. It's oozing in irony.
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  46.  @RM_2423  Do you know the definition of cheating and cowardice? Have a guess.
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  47.  @RM_2423  Do you want to deflect and project now i've proven everything you said as wrong? You're the one who first made your comments so it's clear who lives in whose head. However, it clearly isn't free as it looks very taxing for you from where i'm sitting. Can't you name any credible wins for your guys without any conditions being on the fight? What does that tell you?
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  48.  @RM_2423  By the way, if you're going to make comments like this, it's best you don't continue with your comments just 7 hours ago with the same dishonest and bitter claims.
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  49.  @althepal8018  Not only Canelo. It's all of them. But i'm sure you wish you'd read my other comments before writing this as i gave a handful of the times it's happened. There's many more. But you get the picture. Could you list all the fighters you claim have been "Saved"? The others on this thread made the same comments only to come back with nothing. I'm sure you wouldn't do that. So, let's see them?
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  50.  @RM_2423  Oh look, you've come back to further embarrass yourself. Still not found any wins without conditions being attached? LOL.
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