Comments by "Jay Dee Johnson" (@jaydeejohnson7) on "The New York Times" channel.

  1.  @holisticpoet  everyone wants it to be just once thing that causes autism No, just you...convinced vaccines are responsible for ASD yet cannot provide causation
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  2.  @holisticpoet  guess who made a claim? YOU, mate. 😂😂
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  3.  @holisticpoet  hehe. Guess who made a claim that my claim in not true. That's not how logic And reason work. You made a claim. I called BS. Then you should make an attempt to provide support
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  4.  @holisticpoet  For you to reference https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/112/6/1394
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  5.  @holisticpoet  which god would this be, exactly?
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  6.  @holisticpoet  I think, therefore I am. A god, I am not.
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  7.  @holisticpoet  your fallacious argument can be best shown through this example "The coin I pulled from the bag is a penny. The second coin is a penny. A third coin from the bag is a penny. Therefore, all the coins in the bag are pennies."   Your inductive reasoning leads you to believe a statement like this  "Harold is a grandfather. Harold is bald. Therefore, all grandfathers are bald."
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  8.  @holisticpoet  so you are saying I am a god or have a god complex... This in response to evidence against your assertion, ... does not change the scientific understanding and decades of research around vaccine development ...
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  9.  @holisticpoet  according to you, if one speaks of scientific evidence and understanding, they are considered playing god?
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  10.  @holisticpoet  https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/infant-and-toddler-health/in-depth/vaccines/art-20048334 https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccines-and-other-conditions/vaccines-autism https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/new-meta-analysis-confirms-no-association-between-autism-and-vaccines https://autismsciencefoundation.org/what-is-autism/autism-and-vaccines/
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  11. people are not stupid and realize that they are being lied to You're lying to yourself, mate That mean you stupid?
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  12.  @holisticpoet  this study was undoubtedly funded by Big Pharma directly or indirectly if you are not aware that they are trying to obfuscate the truth you will believe the same old lie So you are basing these claims on a conspiracy to deceive the entire world; orchestrated and perpetuated by ASD nonprofits/foundations, microbiologists, infectious disease researchers, and medical professionals. What a web you spin, looking for anecdotal evidence to fit into your hypotheses and conclusions.
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  13.  @holisticpoet  polysorbate 80 works well as an emulsifier for lipids/oils but it does not work very well if at all in facilitating charged molecules to pass the bbb
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  14.  @holisticpoet  you spin trying to say that if no study is to prove that vaccines cause autism they cannot possibly cause autism That's not how the scientific method works. It does not prove things, but rather gathers evidence and an interpretation of these results. Science advances by conducting repeatable experiments that could potentially disprove the hypothesis. How would you disprove my claim/conclusion, ice cream is the cause of drowning? I don't mean to have this sound as a lecture. I am attempting to show how this is a false cause fallacy... and 'connecting the dots' or a shill gambit is fallacious reasoning. My other attempts may be too simplistic. Assertions concerning big pharma, vaccines and tens of thousands in the research field would need some extraordinary evidence of conspiring to...do...something There is no dogmatic instruction, no required belief or faith in the scientific method. It does take good methodology and every effort to reduce biases. Results must stand up to scrutiny and have repeatability.
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  15.  @holisticpoet  I am not stupid to over 1 million patents just in the US that have autistic children and need the truth about what is causing it But you have not shown any supporting evidence to your claim of a big pharma conspiracy to cover-up information by somehow keeping the science community silent. The conflict of interest between hundreds of thousands of researchers, in and outside the private sector, to ignore/cover-up evidence of a link between vaccines and autism has not been demonstrated. This is a shill gambit, mate
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  16.  @holisticpoet  "Common sense is actually nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind prior to the age of eighteen."
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  17.  @holisticpoet  Could common sense alone claim all swans are white?
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  18.  @holisticpoet  Del Bigtree is exactly where i thought you were getting your information All speculation. No supportive evidence
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  19.  @holisticpoet  otherwise i will know for sure that you are being paid by Big Pharma to deceive people into using a product that is detrimental to their health 😂😂😂😂
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  20.  @holisticpoet  I'll watch this one. Del is really difficult to listen to. I'll stop by the dispensary today and try to watch after
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  21.  @holisticpoet  and that lawsuit you mentioned? ICAN v CDC? That was voluntarily dismissed with prejudice?? 😂😂
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  22.  @holisticpoet  wait, this 90min video is just Del talking about the dropped case? The FOIA request is basically asking this question: Do you have evidence that ice cream does not cause drownings?
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  23.  @holisticpoet  all speculation after the hour mark. Hea asking why would they lie? Why would they cover this up? Yet Del has done nothing with this lawsuit. Science Does not seek to prove something. It gathers evidence to reduce uncertainty. Science is inherently skeptical There's nothing of substance, just ramblings of a movie producer asking for evidence dog food does not cause unicornism
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  24.  @holisticpoet  I'm gonna need some sativa in order to attempt to follow his backwards reasoning and pretzel logic
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  25.  @holisticpoet  I'm trying to get a discussion and instead you provide fallacious reasoning over and over Your false dilemma is showing I see no reason to believe there is a link between vaccines and autism
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  26.  @holisticpoet  it was always someone who thought differently I understand what you are trying to say here. Advancements in science, to put this simply, depend upon skeptical analysis of the evidence they are gathering. These findings must then holdup to further scrutiny in review, repeatability and predictability. Just making assertions and correlative assumptions without supportive empirical evidence may get you to a hypothesis. However, without evidence, I do not see how one can make a conclusion without addressing uncertainties.
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  27.  @holisticpoet  Breaking this down using this analogy may be more useful I see no reason to believe there is a link between ice cream and drownings. You must be a shill for Big Farm or ignorant to even look at information I stand by my statement, and agree with the current scientific understanding: there is no causal link between ice cream and drownings then prove ice cream doesn't cause drownings. Look at all the legal settlements and lies that have killed thousands due to Big Farm's dangerous practices and shills like you, all to make money. You cannot prove ice cream does not cause drownings! It does! Look at the all the families that have lost loved ones....etc etc etc Earnestly asking, your thoughts?
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  28.  @holisticpoet  Would be nice if you could tell me which statement is false and why
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  29.  @holisticpoet  ICAN v CDC voluntarily dismissed with prejudice This means the plaintiff voluntarily moved to dismiss. CDC agreed. The lawsuit can not be filed again. No evidence of a causal link discussed in Dels long winded assumptions Absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence Inability to disprove does not prove The analogy i setup is in direct response to the lawsuit asking for proof of some thing or event not existing. Can you prove you did not have eggs this morning? Or prove Santa Claus does not exist? Have proof Ice cream does not cause drownings? What evidence could one provide to prove these do not exist or did not occur?
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  30.  @holisticpoet  Quotes from the movie producer coming. And they are flawed and outright disco specious. Going to get on a laptop in a bit instead of trying to transcribe the babble on my phone Basically, from 1:04:00 on is referenced in my analogy. A few minutes later, he explains his fallacious argument and doesn't even realize it
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  31.  @holisticpoet  you comeback with a lot of [hyperbole] about how it is all my fault that we cannot have a discussion I am making a full effort not to be fallacious. When i attempt to disagree with your assertions and point out your fallacies, you provide several more
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  32.  @holisticpoet  at 1:04:45 Del after refering to the studies provided and how they do not prove vaccines do not cause autism: do you think it's just possible that the government might be lying to cover up a problem that's going to cost trillions by the way blah blah blah. Well, if you can demonstrate there's been a cover-up for about a century...but he offers only speculation and conspiracy with specious assumptions minutes later Del only 20 studies, all by the way...every one set out to do one thing -- not challenge whether or not a vaccine is safe -- but went out of its way to prove it doesn't cause autism... to prove MMR doesn't cause autism. That is bad science they went with; they did everything to design 20 studies to try and disprove a link and couldn't do it Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence So now Del is going to complain that someone designed a study to prove vaccines do not cause autism (not necessarily, but this is semantics) and calls this bad science. Well Del, you were asking for studies with bad science, these 20 studies did not prove anything, but offered evidence to support no link. No evidence of cause had been found...this is simply reality. Del/ICAN filed a lawsuit for proof(and he's mad when there is none) seeking proof in a court of law and not evidence within the laws of science is disingenuous. This is where the incredulity and shill gambit come in to play and is loudly fallacious There is no such thing as proof of no cause or proof of cause in the laws of science....only in the court of law
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  33. My claim I see no reason to believe there is a causal link between autism and vaccines. Evidence There is no evidence of a causal relationship
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  34.  @holisticpoet  you seem to know with great certainty that vaccines cause autism. Yet you or Del or RFK Jr offer no evidence of cause just speculative assumptions and spurious correlation. Reality? At the bare minimum, the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation between vaccines and ASD There is no study with demonstrable evidence favoring the acceptance of a causal relation.
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  35. Now, it would benefit the discussion if you could produce the statements you find false and why.
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  36.  @holisticpoet  After all that and you ask questions i already addressed?! There is no strong link, mate I wish you would have read what i wrote All of this is addressed
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  37.  @holisticpoet  yes, all that information you wrote is not supported in any way. Just your opinions. The 'information' you have been purporting is not even logically consistent let alone scientifically evident
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  38.  @holisticpoet  you seem to know with great certainty that vaccines cause autism. Yet you or Del or RFK Jr offer no evidence of cause just speculative assumptions and spurious correlation. Reality? At the bare minimum, the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation concerning vaccines and ASD There is no study with demonstrable evidence favoring the acceptance of a causal relation
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  39.  @holisticpoet  As ice cream consumption increases, the rate of drownings increases sharply. Therefore, ICE CREAM CAUSES DROWNING can You explain why this is a valud argument but NOT sound More examples of fallacious reasoning regarding correlation vs causation Sleeping with one's shoes on is strongly correlated with waking up with a headache.Therefore, sleeping with one's shoes on causes headache. Young children who sleep with the light on are much more likely to develop myopia in later life.Therefore, sleeping with the light on causes myopia.
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  40.  @holisticpoet  please take the time to read what you asked for and not continue on being ignorantly flippant
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  41.  @holisticpoet  you... refuse to even acknowledge the evidence that i presented I did acknowledge and offered my response I know in my heart that vaccines with all their toxic ingredients are by far the number one cause of autism, regardless of your half hearted attempts to claim that i have no evidence You have no evidence, just a feeling...a hunch. Yet there is no evidence of a causal relationship, in any definiton. The evidence is so overwhelming that the only people who cannot see it are those with a vested interest in keeping this information from the public Evidence is so overwhelming of no such link that anyone can see it except those who rely upon spurious correlations and specious claims. Screaming of a cover-up worldwide would need some extraordinary evidence for such an extraordinary claim. https://autismsciencefoundation.org/what-is-autism/autism-and-vaccines/ https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/no-mmr-autism-link-large-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-kids https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/autism-studies.html https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/do-vaccines-cause-autism https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccines-and-other-conditions/vaccines-autism https://hub.jhu.edu/2017/01/11/vaccines-autism-public-health-expert/
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  42.  @holisticpoet  attack the points being made, and not strawmen
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  43.  @holisticpoet  maybe it's formula? Or greenhouse gases. Or fairies. it is virtually impossible to prove the absence of a relationship with the same certainty that is possible in establishing the presence of one.
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  44.  @holisticpoet more than a million cases of autism and growing exponetially. Stop the vaccines! More than a million drownings and growing exponetially. Stop the distribution of ice cream!
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  45.  @holisticpoet  you say there IS plenty of proof/evidence, yet what you produce is spurious correlations and specious assumptions. The analogy of ice cream causing drownings illustrates this correlation without causation succinctly
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  46.  @holisticpoet  look at the millions of cases of autism? Sure... Now how do YOU conclude that vaccines are THE single CAUSE??
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  47.  @holisticpoet  There is plenty of evidence but you can only offer....?
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  48.  @holisticpoet  Your a$$ still hurt?
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